The homeowners of Gulf Place want you to know of a pending hearing of the Walton County Planning Board for a petition to develop 40 condos and a 50 bed hotel in the vicinity of Gulf Place. This will, in the opinion of the homeowners, overtax the current infrastructure to the point of creating a significant problem not only for the residents and guests of Gulf Place but also to the public at large.
If you agree, please check out the online petition at:
www.ipetitions.com/petition/stop-the-gulf-place-hotel
The hearing with the Planning Commission is this Thursday August 13th at 5:00 pm at the South Annex.
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21DreamerDreamerBeach LoverNorthwest Georgia172 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
The beach at Ed Walline is so small that it is already to capacity.
Jimmy T
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Just wanted to say that after signing the petition, the next page asks for
a donation. This is not necessary for your signature to be recorded. You
can simply close the browser window and be done with it.
a donation. This is not necessary for your signature to be recorded. You
can simply close the browser window and be done with it.
Teresa
TeresaSoWal GuideSouth Walton, FL30,977 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Guide
Stopping development is not an option. Creating an incorporated city with excellent leadership of growth and development - that's a real option for a growing town like ours.
Dawn
DawnBeach Fanatic1,367 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Stopping development is not an option. Creating an incorporated city with excellent leadership of growth and development - that's a real option for a growing town like ours.
Stopping development IS an option, even if an unlikely one. I'm afraid you have the mentality most others do about SoWal. That it can grow and be managed like other locales.
REMEMBER - we are an island. An island has limited room to grow and limited infrastructure possibilities. Our island is already past capacity and we should be thinking about bringing development to a halt because even if it stops today we will have many more permanent residents flowing in.
There are thousands of new housing units coming our way that are a done deal.
Freeport (from bayshore to I-10) is going to grow at such an alarming rate in coming years it will make your head spin. Tens of thousands of new housing units. You think South Walton has a problem now? Freeport is going to be like a boulder on our heads.
As for leadership ad professionalism, I think you're mistaking ego and grandstanding for leadership. Don't get fooled into thinking a small group of folks griping online are actually going to be able to make things better. Ans as we've seen in the past and present, developers have the money and have bought your paradise.
Beachlover2
Beachlover2Beach FanaticSoWal819 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
So if you are trying to stop growth entirely - does this mean the lot I bought 10 years ago is worthless - because if you stop growth entirely I can't build my house on it someday or sell it.
Jenksy
JenksyBeach Fanatic833 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
So if you are trying to stop growth entirely - does this mean the lot I bought 10 years ago is worthless - because if you stop growth entirely I can't build my house on it someday or sell it.
Single family homes and lots probably wouldn't be affected. What would happen is the hurdles and costs to do subdivisions and multi-family would become prohibitive. You can't impinge on rights but you can make it too difficult through fees and ordinances, building regulations, etc. You can also regulate through your planning department how many cases they can physically handle. Make zoning and approvals more restrictive.
Taxes would go up. Existing homes would go up. SIngle family lots would go up.
Teresa
TeresaSoWal GuideSouth Walton, FL30,977 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Guide
Stopping development IS an option, even if an unlikely one. I'm afraid you have the mentality most others do about SoWal. That it can grow and be managed like other locales.
REMEMBER - we are an island. An island has limited room to grow and limited infrastructure possibilities. Our island is already past capacity and we should be thinking about bringing development to a halt because even if it stops today we will have many more permanent residents flowing in.
There are thousands of new housing units coming our way that are a done deal.
Freeport (from bayshore to I-10) is going to grow at such an alarming rate in coming years it will make your head spin. Tens of thousands of new housing units. You think South Walton has a problem now? Freeport is going to be like a boulder on our heads.
As for leadership ad professionalism, I think you're mistaking ego and grandstanding for leadership. Don't get fooled into thinking a small group of folks griping online are actually going to be able to make things better. Ans as we've seen in the past and present, developers have the money and have bought your paradise.
There are many ways our beach town is unique from other locales including the 40% preserved land. But we can and should expect leadership and proper growth management. Not with our current county level government. But we can push for self governance, which is a natural progression when a town's population explodes along with infrastructure needs.
Bob Wells
Bob WellsBeach Fanatic3,380 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Realizing that there are issues with what is going on, but isn't kind of funny that one part of the problem is complaining about the worsening of the situation. Just my opinion.
Misty
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Chelco News in regard to growth...
Three areas in CHELCO’s service territory are experiencing significant growth. Santa Rosa Beach, Mossy Head and Freeport are seeing new residential developments, as well as commercial and retail establishments.
A healthy real estate market brings more residents, year-round and seasonal, and encourages a stronger economic environment and a more vibrant community.
In the first six months of 2015, CHELCO’s engineering and operations departments have completed more projects than in all of 2014, and the trend continues. Both Santa Rosa Beach and Freeport’s Hammock Bay have plans for new development.
The opening of Mossy Head’s industrial park is creating hundreds of new jobs in the area. Currently the park includes Love’s Truck Stop, McDonalds, Sleep Inn and Empire Trucking with an I-10 Service Center, Southern Tire Mart, Walton County Sheriff’s substation and FedEx distribution centers expected to follow. The new FedEx ground distribution center will operate 24-hours a day, 365 days a year and is projected to open late next year.
CHELCO Vice President of Engineering Matthew Avery said they have upgraded their infrastructure in Mossy Head in anticipation of the increased load in that area.
While Mossy Head is leading the charge of new businesses, the announcement of Publix Super Market in Freeport is also causing excitement. The project is much anticipated in the community and has been a long time in the making.
Originally Posted by WZEP
Three areas in CHELCO’s service territory are experiencing significant growth. Santa Rosa Beach, Mossy Head and Freeport are seeing new residential developments, as well as commercial and retail establishments.
A healthy real estate market brings more residents, year-round and seasonal, and encourages a stronger economic environment and a more vibrant community.
In the first six months of 2015, CHELCO’s engineering and operations departments have completed more projects than in all of 2014, and the trend continues. Both Santa Rosa Beach and Freeport’s Hammock Bay have plans for new development.
The opening of Mossy Head’s industrial park is creating hundreds of new jobs in the area. Currently the park includes Love’s Truck Stop, McDonalds, Sleep Inn and Empire Trucking with an I-10 Service Center, Southern Tire Mart, Walton County Sheriff’s substation and FedEx distribution centers expected to follow. The new FedEx ground distribution center will operate 24-hours a day, 365 days a year and is projected to open late next year.
CHELCO Vice President of Engineering Matthew Avery said they have upgraded their infrastructure in Mossy Head in anticipation of the increased load in that area.
While Mossy Head is leading the charge of new businesses, the announcement of Publix Super Market in Freeport is also causing excitement. The project is much anticipated in the community and has been a long time in the making.
Originally Posted by WZEP
Edited
South Walton Community Council
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The SWCC has been contacted by the property owners of Gulf Place and the surrounding neighborhood to ask for your support in opposing the proposed hotel development adjacent to their community. Please read the following letter from a concerned property owner and show your support by attending the BCC meeting on September 8th at 4:00 pm.
"Dear Commissioners,
I would like to address the motel complex that has been planned for lot 19 and 20 within Gulf Place. I and many more owners are totally against the motel and the clientele it will bring to Gulf Place and 30A. At the most recent meeting, I was shocked as I listened to the developers describe the MOTEL as a lovely INN or boutique motel. I have stayed at many Inns before and they are lovely with nice bar areas, spas, meeting rooms and nice restaurants for their guest. The Inns are typically geared around few rooms, loads of amenities and a quaint experience to enjoy a quite area. There is currently a lovely Inn along 30-A in Watercolor and it does have all the amenities with few rooms in addition to a lovely private pool, full spa, and full bar areas for outside and inside dining.
The Motel planned for Gulf Place has NO amenities, only a small splash pool. The project it seems is all about beds and heads and as many rooms as they can squeeze in. I was shocked at the parking they also have planned for the motel. The spaces that will be provided are so small; it will be hard to park a compact car and will in no way accommodate a SUV. This project will bring in a minimum of 90 to 150 additional automobiles that will be driving in our small community as well as along 30-A and Hwy. 393. The additional traffic will as well be looking for parking within the complex. We have a tremendous parking problem already-not enough parking for the number of condos and commercial area in Gulf Place. We also rent the green space for weddings, concerts, art shows and many other events, so when those people arrive they have nowhere to park, spaces are taken and they usually end up on the side of 30-A everywhere.
Ed Waline State Park is the busiest state park along 30-A and it is a place where local owners can come to the beach and enjoy the day. However parking is a premium, and most every day cars are lined up and down 30-A just to visit the park. This is not only an eye sore but so dangerous for pedestrians and small children trying to cross between cars. I have personally witnessed several children that almost got hit because they came out between cars.
I realize this motel meets all the requirements of density when Gulf Place was first established and approved in the early 90’s. However that has been over 25 years ago, and projects that worked 25 years ago do not work today and should not work if we want to preserve what we have along the Emerald Coast. All one has to do is look at Destin and Panama City Beach. Destin started as a small fishing village; just a lovely place, and now it is dotted with high rise condos and motels, and traffic is at a standstill most of the year. You cannot drive Destin and even see the beach because the lovely views are all blocked by concrete structures. Motels are typically filled with spring break students who have no ownership and no desire to preserve the beauty of the area.
The City of Destin did not have the foresight to see what they had nor tried to preserve the area. Years ago (I think in the 80’s) there was a high rise that was built along 30-A called One Seagrove Place. Once that building went up, the community took a stand against additional high-rise buildings being constructed. In doing this, the community showed much vision and leadership in what they did all those years ago. They sent a message to the commissioners, “We will not destroy our way of life, the quaint beauty, natural wildlife and peaceful beach community along 30-A.” They could have taken the high rise requirement down to 10 floors or even 8 floors but no, they would not settle until the height requirement was 4 floors or below allowing all the views of the beautiful gulf to remain for the lovely 30-A corridor drive.
Homeowners and County commissioners took a stand against developers, demanding that 30-A remain as a tribute to some of the most beautiful property in the state of Florida. I totally commend those strong leaders who stood up and demanded change of the future development along 30-A. They had vision beyond the moment, they truly stood by their conventions of Preserving 30-A.
Today we stand at the same cross roads with developers it is our time to make a stand, preserve and conserve 30-A, allow the 30-A corridor to remain as one of Florida’s most beautiful areas to visit and enjoy the natural beauty, low density and wild life that often walks the area.
I spoke with these developers in April at our Association meeting and asked the question, “ you could easily build a condo complex that would fit within the community and preserve the area with private ownership.” Their response was “This piece is zoned commercial and we can get the motel approved. It could be worst we could put up an arcade and I am sure you would not want that.” These developers are clearly not concerned with 30-A, the preservation of our community, the beaches or anything else in Walton County. It appears that they are all about the money. I along with the majority of the owners predict that they will build this motel, run it for a year or so and then sell it. We could be left with Hampton Inn or any number of motel chains, which could care less about how it is operated but more with how they can fill the beds.
When I was at the planning board meeting I noticed the County Seal above the members, which reads: “Walton County, Pride, Preservation, and Conservation”. I employ you to do the right thing for the 30-A corridor, the preservation and the conservation of the area and stop these motels from dotting the beautiful landscape. It truly is our time to lead, stand up protect the 30-A corridor we all love."
The following is a link to the online petition provided. If you haven't already please click on the link to sign the petition if you agree!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/stop-the-gulf-place-hotel
"Dear Commissioners,
I would like to address the motel complex that has been planned for lot 19 and 20 within Gulf Place. I and many more owners are totally against the motel and the clientele it will bring to Gulf Place and 30A. At the most recent meeting, I was shocked as I listened to the developers describe the MOTEL as a lovely INN or boutique motel. I have stayed at many Inns before and they are lovely with nice bar areas, spas, meeting rooms and nice restaurants for their guest. The Inns are typically geared around few rooms, loads of amenities and a quaint experience to enjoy a quite area. There is currently a lovely Inn along 30-A in Watercolor and it does have all the amenities with few rooms in addition to a lovely private pool, full spa, and full bar areas for outside and inside dining.
The Motel planned for Gulf Place has NO amenities, only a small splash pool. The project it seems is all about beds and heads and as many rooms as they can squeeze in. I was shocked at the parking they also have planned for the motel. The spaces that will be provided are so small; it will be hard to park a compact car and will in no way accommodate a SUV. This project will bring in a minimum of 90 to 150 additional automobiles that will be driving in our small community as well as along 30-A and Hwy. 393. The additional traffic will as well be looking for parking within the complex. We have a tremendous parking problem already-not enough parking for the number of condos and commercial area in Gulf Place. We also rent the green space for weddings, concerts, art shows and many other events, so when those people arrive they have nowhere to park, spaces are taken and they usually end up on the side of 30-A everywhere.
Ed Waline State Park is the busiest state park along 30-A and it is a place where local owners can come to the beach and enjoy the day. However parking is a premium, and most every day cars are lined up and down 30-A just to visit the park. This is not only an eye sore but so dangerous for pedestrians and small children trying to cross between cars. I have personally witnessed several children that almost got hit because they came out between cars.
I realize this motel meets all the requirements of density when Gulf Place was first established and approved in the early 90’s. However that has been over 25 years ago, and projects that worked 25 years ago do not work today and should not work if we want to preserve what we have along the Emerald Coast. All one has to do is look at Destin and Panama City Beach. Destin started as a small fishing village; just a lovely place, and now it is dotted with high rise condos and motels, and traffic is at a standstill most of the year. You cannot drive Destin and even see the beach because the lovely views are all blocked by concrete structures. Motels are typically filled with spring break students who have no ownership and no desire to preserve the beauty of the area.
The City of Destin did not have the foresight to see what they had nor tried to preserve the area. Years ago (I think in the 80’s) there was a high rise that was built along 30-A called One Seagrove Place. Once that building went up, the community took a stand against additional high-rise buildings being constructed. In doing this, the community showed much vision and leadership in what they did all those years ago. They sent a message to the commissioners, “We will not destroy our way of life, the quaint beauty, natural wildlife and peaceful beach community along 30-A.” They could have taken the high rise requirement down to 10 floors or even 8 floors but no, they would not settle until the height requirement was 4 floors or below allowing all the views of the beautiful gulf to remain for the lovely 30-A corridor drive.
Homeowners and County commissioners took a stand against developers, demanding that 30-A remain as a tribute to some of the most beautiful property in the state of Florida. I totally commend those strong leaders who stood up and demanded change of the future development along 30-A. They had vision beyond the moment, they truly stood by their conventions of Preserving 30-A.
Today we stand at the same cross roads with developers it is our time to make a stand, preserve and conserve 30-A, allow the 30-A corridor to remain as one of Florida’s most beautiful areas to visit and enjoy the natural beauty, low density and wild life that often walks the area.
I spoke with these developers in April at our Association meeting and asked the question, “ you could easily build a condo complex that would fit within the community and preserve the area with private ownership.” Their response was “This piece is zoned commercial and we can get the motel approved. It could be worst we could put up an arcade and I am sure you would not want that.” These developers are clearly not concerned with 30-A, the preservation of our community, the beaches or anything else in Walton County. It appears that they are all about the money. I along with the majority of the owners predict that they will build this motel, run it for a year or so and then sell it. We could be left with Hampton Inn or any number of motel chains, which could care less about how it is operated but more with how they can fill the beds.
When I was at the planning board meeting I noticed the County Seal above the members, which reads: “Walton County, Pride, Preservation, and Conservation”. I employ you to do the right thing for the 30-A corridor, the preservation and the conservation of the area and stop these motels from dotting the beautiful landscape. It truly is our time to lead, stand up protect the 30-A corridor we all love."
The following is a link to the online petition provided. If you haven't already please click on the link to sign the petition if you agree!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/stop-the-gulf-place-hotel
miznotebook
miznotebookBeach FanaticStone's throw from Inlet Bch974 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
From Walton County Public Information:
Notice of Postponement – Quasi-Judicial for Gulf Place Lots 19 and 20 Major Development
The Walton County Planning Department has requested a continuance of the Quasi-Judicial Hearing to be held on Tuesday, November 10th regarding the development of Gulf Place Lots 19 and 20.
The continuance request is in regard to the Planning Department’s continued research into the project. Additional time has been requested in order to compete their process.
Information about the project is below.
Gulf Place Lots 19 and 20 Project number 14-00100082 - Major development order application submitted by Jenkins Engineering, Inc. This is a major development order application submitted by Jenkins Engineering, Inc. requesting the approval to construct commercial spaces of +/- 25,500 square feet, to include 40 multifamily condo/townhome units and a 50-unit hotel, and a 2,500 square foot retail space on approximately 2.2 acres with a future land use of Village Mixed Use. The project is located within the Gulf Place PUD, north of CR 30A adjacent to the west side of South CR 393
The continuance to this Quasi-Judicial Hearing will be to the regularly scheduled December 8th, 2015 Walton County BCC meeting at 5:00pm or soon thereafter at the South Walton Annex located at 31 Coastal Centre Blvd. in Santa Rosa Beach.
Notice of Postponement – Quasi-Judicial for Gulf Place Lots 19 and 20 Major Development
The Walton County Planning Department has requested a continuance of the Quasi-Judicial Hearing to be held on Tuesday, November 10th regarding the development of Gulf Place Lots 19 and 20.
The continuance request is in regard to the Planning Department’s continued research into the project. Additional time has been requested in order to compete their process.
Information about the project is below.
Gulf Place Lots 19 and 20 Project number 14-00100082 - Major development order application submitted by Jenkins Engineering, Inc. This is a major development order application submitted by Jenkins Engineering, Inc. requesting the approval to construct commercial spaces of +/- 25,500 square feet, to include 40 multifamily condo/townhome units and a 50-unit hotel, and a 2,500 square foot retail space on approximately 2.2 acres with a future land use of Village Mixed Use. The project is located within the Gulf Place PUD, north of CR 30A adjacent to the west side of South CR 393
The continuance to this Quasi-Judicial Hearing will be to the regularly scheduled December 8th, 2015 Walton County BCC meeting at 5:00pm or soon thereafter at the South Walton Annex located at 31 Coastal Centre Blvd. in Santa Rosa Beach.
Matt J
Matt JSWGB24,862 postsJoined View profileMessageSWGB
This one might actually end in a lawsuit.
Kurt
KurtAdminSoWal2,473 postsJoined View profileMessageAdmin
Posted on: December 3, 2015
Notice of Postponement – Quasi-Judicial for Gulf Place Lots 19 and 20 Major Development
Notice of Postponement – Quasi-Judicial for Gulf Place Lots 19 and 20 Major Development
The Walton County Planning Department has requested a continuance of the Quasi-Judicial Hearing to be held on Tuesday, December 8th regarding the development of Gulf Place Lots 19 and 20.
The continuance request is in regard to the Planning Department’s continued research into the project. Additional time has been requested in order to compete their process.
Information about the project is below.
Gulf Place Lots 19 and 20 Project number 14-00100082 - Major development order application submitted by Jenkins Engineering, Inc. This is a major development order application submitted by Jenkins Engineering, Inc. requesting the approval to construct commercial spaces of +/- 25,500 square feet, to include 40 multifamily condo/townhome units and a 50-unit hotel, and a 2,500 square foot retail space on approximately 2.2 acres with a future land use of Village Mixed Use. The project is located within the Gulf Place PUD, north of CR 30A adjacent to the west side of South CR 393
The continuance to this Quasi-Judicial Hearing will be to the regularly scheduled January 12th, 2016 Walton County BCC meeting at 5:00pm or soon thereafter at the South Walton Annex located at 31 Coastal Centre Blvd. in Santa Rosa Beach.
Notice of Postponement – Quasi-Judicial for Gulf Place Lots 19 and 20 Major Development
Notice of Postponement – Quasi-Judicial for Gulf Place Lots 19 and 20 Major Development
The Walton County Planning Department has requested a continuance of the Quasi-Judicial Hearing to be held on Tuesday, December 8th regarding the development of Gulf Place Lots 19 and 20.
The continuance request is in regard to the Planning Department’s continued research into the project. Additional time has been requested in order to compete their process.
Information about the project is below.
Gulf Place Lots 19 and 20 Project number 14-00100082 - Major development order application submitted by Jenkins Engineering, Inc. This is a major development order application submitted by Jenkins Engineering, Inc. requesting the approval to construct commercial spaces of +/- 25,500 square feet, to include 40 multifamily condo/townhome units and a 50-unit hotel, and a 2,500 square foot retail space on approximately 2.2 acres with a future land use of Village Mixed Use. The project is located within the Gulf Place PUD, north of CR 30A adjacent to the west side of South CR 393
The continuance to this Quasi-Judicial Hearing will be to the regularly scheduled January 12th, 2016 Walton County BCC meeting at 5:00pm or soon thereafter at the South Walton Annex located at 31 Coastal Centre Blvd. in Santa Rosa Beach.
Dawn
DawnBeach Fanatic1,367 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Saw where project was approved with hotel deleted. They added more condos and commercial in its place.
miznotebook
miznotebookBeach FanaticStone's throw from Inlet Bch974 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Planning Commission recommended approval, it still has to go before the county commission. The only change was conversion of the 50-room hotel to 30 condos in the same footprint. Same amount of commercial that had previously been in the plans.
Conn006
Conn006Beach Lover86 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
Where exactly is this new development proposed? Behind Gulf Place? Near the new housing development that's going up behind Gulf Place?
Jimmy T
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#181
Where exactly is this new development proposed? Behind Gulf Place? Near the new housing development that's going up behind Gulf Place?
I believe it's these parcels highlighted in red.
30A Skunkape
30A SkunkapeSkunkyBackatown Seagrove10,329 postsJoined View profileMessageSkunky
And you thought HWY 395/30A intersection was bad!
LarsAtTheBeachLarsAtTheBeachBeach Fanatic702 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Oh goodie...another NIMBY thread!!!
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