Today's Wall Street Journal Marketplace today
indicates the Florida Panhandle along the Gulf
Coast, premiums could rise by nearly 130%. WOW! :bang:
Citizens Insurance is in a financial pinch, with a deficit
in 2005 that could hit $1 billion or more. Stated some
insurance companies have stopped writing new coastal
homeowners policies in states of NY and MA.
tivoli
tivoliBeach LoverEvansville, IN & Seagrove Beach, Part-Time86 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
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41yippieyippieBeach FanaticA local946 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Got my Homeowners policy renewal yesterday. My insurance went from 2100.00 a year to 5000.00 per year!!!!!
SHELLY
SHELLYSoWal Insider5,763 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
We are on a bayou about 5ft deep in Pt. Washington that has never flooded to my knowledge but the townhome is on Eastern Lake and the "property" flooded during Opal. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me either.
People who lived in "inland" waterfront properties on the western side of the panhandle didn't have any flooding during Frederick, Erin, Opal, etc. BUT when Ivan hit just west of Pensacola Bay, the storm surge was funneled directly up bay, wiped out the I-10 bridge, and sent water flooding into the inland waterways. Most all the properties along the bay AND the along miles of inland waterways received some type of flood damage--many homes were destroyed. People said, "I've lived here for X number of years, and we NEVER had flooding before." I wouldn't discount the chance of a hurricane doing the same in the Destin channel.
Why Never to say "Never"
SHELLY
SHELLYSoWal Insider5,763 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Got my Homeowners policy renewal yesterday. My insurance went from 2100.00 a year to 5000.00 per year!!!!!
OUCH! Yippie...I felt your pain! 😱
beachmouse
beachmouseBeach FanaticBluewater Bay, FL3,499 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
You aren't going to get that kind of funneling effect in Choctaw Bay. It's essentially a shallow rectangle- The north shore of the bay is 20-25 miles long, and the bay is about 5 miles wide. The kind of flooding that took out the I-10 bridge during Ivan and caused so much damage to downtown Mobile during Katrina happened in areas where the bays are essentially triangular- a wide area where they empty out into the Gulf, and an extremely narrow point on the north head of the bay.
Choctaw Bay as it is, you're talking about waterfront and low-lying properties getting some sort of normal storm surge. What happens in funneling is that you get a wall of water possibly 30 feet higher than official storm surge as the water from the base of the triangle gets pushed toward a single point, and it was the movement of such a huge amount of water toward such a small area that caused the Bay damage that it did.
Choctaw Bay as it is, you're talking about waterfront and low-lying properties getting some sort of normal storm surge. What happens in funneling is that you get a wall of water possibly 30 feet higher than official storm surge as the water from the base of the triangle gets pushed toward a single point, and it was the movement of such a huge amount of water toward such a small area that caused the Bay damage that it did.
ShallowsNole
ShallowsNoleBeach FanaticPt Washington4,279 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Choctawhatchee Bay gets pretty high at my house during storm surge - we planned for that when we built the new house, and thankfully it didn't come over the porches during Ivan. One can expect the causeway on 331 to be under water too - my husband got caught between the little bridge and the big bridge during just after Opal passed 😱
If something like Katrina hit closer to us...all bets are off. :(
If something like Katrina hit closer to us...all bets are off. :(
yippieyippieBeach FanaticA local946 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
"BTW an agent in Destin also told us that Citizen's was the only company that covered wind."
That is not true. My insurance is with Nationwide and they cover wind. The deductable is higher when the claim is a result of wind. 2% of the value of your home is the wind deductable. Otherwise, the deductable is $1000.00.
That is not true. My insurance is with Nationwide and they cover wind. The deductable is higher when the claim is a result of wind. 2% of the value of your home is the wind deductable. Otherwise, the deductable is $1000.00.
Beach Runner
Beach Runnerbeats on hoodNear the ATL and in SoWal as often as possible15,269 postsJoined View profileMessagebeats on hood
"BTW an agent in Destin also told us that Citizen's was the only company that covered wind."But how close to the Gulf are you? That's a key determining factor regarding whether they'll insure you or not. And the deductible. Our deductible would, like, buy an S-500.
That is not true. My insurance is with Nationwide and they cover wind. The deductable is higher when the claim is a result of wind. 2% of the value of your home is the wind deductable. Otherwise, the deductable is $1000.00.
Amp22Amp22Beach Fanatic287 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
But how close to the Gulf are you? That's a key determining factor regarding whether they'll insure you or not. And the deductible. Our deductible would, like, buy an S-500.
And what is that?
Smiling JOe
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
And what is that?
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:K3TqPCG35OUJ:www.laroyale-sa.ch/images/limousine/s500.jpg
Mercedes S500
...I know nothing about BR's home, but keep in mind, the deductible is based on insured value of the home and its contents, not the land. I know their are some pricey homes around here, and I would not doubt for a moment that some deductibles may buy a Mercedes S500.
The 2% deductible has been around for a while and is nothing new. The new part is that construction costs have skyrocketed over the last few years, esp the last 12 months, and that changes the costs of replacement. My guess is that most people do not have enough coverage to replace their homes, unless they bought the policy in the last six months.
Miss Kitty
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But how close to the Gulf are you? That's a key determining factor regarding whether they'll insure you or not. And the deductible. Our deductible would, like, buy an S-500.
Would it include a Brabus? 😀
BR...are you being paid for product placement? You are good.
Jdarg
JdargSoWal Expert18,040 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
Would it include a Brabus? 😀
BR...are you being paid for product placement? You are good.
What's a Brabus? Answer me in the lounge please though:oops:
yippieyippieBeach FanaticA local946 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
But how close to the Gulf are you? That's a key determining factor regarding whether they'll insure you or not. And the deductible. Our deductible would, like, buy an S-500.
Within 1500 feet. I am in the "danger zone"!
DBOldfordDBOldfordBeach FanaticNapa Valley, CA990 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
The criteria is whether you are within 2,500 ft. of the water's edge. Most people are insured for replacement of their homes (plus contents) at the average cost of per sq. ft. construction. Obviously, this does not cover land costs, which are the biggest part of one's property value if you are near the water. I figure that the value of our house, which is a very large one, is about one-quarter of the overall value, with the land being the big nut. Of course, we don't know if land near the water will be as highly desirable as it has been historically if all these storms continue to ravage coastlines. My bet is that it will be, however, because there's only so much of it. We have watched coastlines erode and topple for years in CA and people are still bidding against each other to snap the land up. I know we wanted a house that at least had a very good view and reasonable proximity to the beach, or none at all. And we have had no damage at all, but for some storm surge on the ground floor and into the swimming pool during Ivan. A cleanup, but okay. Still worth it, for our nickel.
MermaidMermaidpicky7,871 postsJoined View profileMessagepicky
The homeowner's annual meeting for our condo is scheduled for next month and we've already been warned that our dues are going up. Insurance premiums, of course. It will be "interesting" to see what we'll be shelling out from now on in. :(
I think we're all finding out that paradise does not come without its price.
I think we're all finding out that paradise does not come without its price.
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