Update on Yippie's Mold Ridden Home - Sad but worth reading

A few points, certified mold inspectors do exist in Florida.

Mold can cause major problems for some people's health, others seem unaffected. My sisters house, which has a finished basement looks nice and clean, but the mold which is hidden, limits her kids from hanging out in the basement, and my mom gets sick when she stays in the bedroom down there.

Some builders spray down the wood with chemicals like Jomax, just before installing the windows and doors, to help kill any mold growing on the wood. It doesn't contain a die to show that it has been applied.

As stated, mold is everywhere, and that is why the accurate tests require a base be established from the mold in the air outside the home. You will likely find mold in the cabinet under the sink, in the corners of your shower, and in the HVAC vent. When the level gets high enough above the basis, it becomes a concern, but can be remediated, potentially with much labor and costs, if you have to start ripping out sheetrock.

This is the type that we used in GA. He actually did test and found things within normal range and wasn't trying to rip anyone off. Obviously, Yippie already ripped the sheetrock out and it didn't help anyways.

Skunky, you are right in that our environments now actually make us more susceptable because we are not used to the contaminents that were normally occurring prior to our more "sterile & fragile" living environments.

Again, there was a great deal of litigation info flooding UGA Law School in earlier in the decade when I was there. These weren't get rich quick schemes but legal precedents being set. At least the law libraries are a place to start looking.

I really find it interesting that suddenly mold is on par with smoking, asbestos, and red meat. :roll:

Seriously this stuff has been around for how many millions of years and WHAM in the last 4 years it is the scourge of human civilization?

Mold existed prior to humans, and while I understand allergies, as I do have a few myself. I have yet to hear of a single allergy that ever caused diabetes. Unless you option in sugar, obesity, or pure laziness.

This whole thread strikes me as nothing more than a cry for attention; i.e. someone hurt me, I made a lousy investment, or hmm none of the above apply I just want people to feel sorry for me.

Finally if any indication of suicide is further hinted at, I will contact the authorities immediately. The fact that someone would end their own lives over the purchase of property, and a subsequent problem or devaluation would cause them to consider ending their own lives, whether their home or a second residences denotes a serious mental illness that requires immeditate mental health intervention.

I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment of Yippie's situation (and I tend to pride myself on my ability to quickly call BS(!) on sob stories ).

I've personally accepted the fact that Yippie has been screwed over by the homebuilder--I have personal knowledge and read many accounts of this situation happening during the frenzy.

I also feel that he's telling the truth when he said that he's spent large sums of money trying to repair the house.

I can empathize with his pain and frustration as he tries to sort out this mess that is causing him financial, mental and physical pain.

If Yippie is just blowing smoke out his arse and getting a kick out of fooling people who believe in his plight to elicit sympathy and attention, then I've gotta congratulate him on fooling me (Florida's #1 Skeptic)--but all I'm offering up is a few moments of my time and a couple of words of support and comfort, so it's really no big deal.

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Yippie,

You wrote:

"The bank is not wiling to continue to carry a mortgage on a property that is not worth the collaterial and not insured on top of it."

The way that I see it is that if you can't insure, and you can't afford to continue paying the mortgage, "The Bank" is the owner of the property and it is up to the bank to take up the issue with the builder...no? (just like if you have a CAR payment and you can't make the payments, THE BANK takes it, NOT the Car DEALER the YOU bought it from!!!!

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I asked a builder I know how they deal with this issue and what has caused it to come to the forefront today. He told me that they have always had mold problems. The lumber that comes in is usually full of the stuff. YES IT IS.....no mater how tight you TRY to make/build a house, WATER is the one thing that NO MATTER WHAT, WILL find a way in, ESPECIALLY HERE with hurricanes and the horizontal rain that we get in storms. There is NO way to make a building COMPLETELY dry, NO matter what ANYONE tells you, NO MATTER WHERE you are in the country, it's IMPOSSIBLE
There is a wood product that you can use that effective resistance to mold, termites, and fungal decay LINK the "green" wood is actually better for the environment than the typical pressure treated material.
A few years back they started hiring some sort of mold company to ome in after the home was dried in that sprays an orange colored chemical on the entire inside of the house. They then certify the home as mold free and give them a warranty against future mold. (IF they warranty it go after THEM)

I have seen a lot of houses in various stages and never have I seen anything sprayed orange. (NOR have I) I wonder how long before they discover that the chemical that is being sprayed is some sort of a carcinogen.

He did say this has really gotten regulated in California as the result of a huge lawsuit against the government on a mold issue. He felt like that it would not be long before similar rules and regs would be put in place throughout Florida.

Try these:

http://www.destindir.com/matercloset.pdf

http://www.destindir.com/abrahamresidence(3)8-30-06.pdf

http://www.destindir.com/abrahamresidence8-30air.pdf

http://www.destindir.com/PhotosAbraham8-21-07.PDF

You may have to cut and paste in your browser.

No, my insurance is not part of the mortgage. IT is paid separately. The bank does not own the property, payments are current.

Well, I was a day off. At exactly 12:01am March 16th, there is no longer any insurance on the house.

I don't know what will happen on Monday.

If only the builder would have stepped up to the plate and do the right thing, (TYPICALLY the builder will guarantee their construction for a year or two AFTER completion and FIX ANY problems, no questions asked) BUT(from an earlier post "Your house is also 12 years old and probably needs routine maintenance. Reputation is awfully important in this area, and if they were such shotty builders, they would have gone out of business a long time ago.)

so if you have owned this house for 12 years, it's too late to get the builder/county officials involved, this is a problem that is only YOU have to deal with.(it's like if I had a 1994 car and it has a problem, there is the 60,000 mile guarantee, but after that, I have to deal with it. fixed the problems their defects caused, or even attempted to help me get some satisfaction from their liability insurance company, I would not be in this mess. [I can personally verify that the builder that YOU did name in that earlier post is VERY upstanding company and does build to and ABOVE code.



Small update - Mr. Brown from channel 13 has attempted to reach the builder several times, but the builder will not take or return his calls. (you know, it all depends WHEN they tried to call, IF they called my office on friday, OR a saturday(the date this was posted).....no one would be there to answer.


I do feel for you for all of your health issues, but the more that this is looked into and the true reality is revealed, the less empathy I feel for you. And it looks like the only shady party in all of this is YOU.

I assure you that I am not blowing smoke out of my arse.

Sowalgayboi, I'm not trying to be ugly, but I think you need to do some research before you voice your opinion. It's a free country, so each is entitled to an opinion and my opinion of your post was that it is insensitive, rude and hateful.

Read this Leviticus Chapter 14

I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment of Yippie's situation (and I tend to pride myself on my ability to quickly call BS(!) on sob stories ).

I've personally accepted the fact that Yippie has been screwed over by the homebuilder--I have personal knowledge and read many accounts of this situation happening during the frenzy.

I also feel that he's telling the truth when he said that he's spent large sums of money trying to repair the house.

I can empathize with his pain and frustration as he tries to sort out this mess that is causing him financial, mental and physical pain.

If Yippie is just blowing smoke out his arse and getting a kick out of fooling people who believe in his plight to elicit sympathy and attention, then I've gotta congratulate him on fooling me (Florida's #1 Skeptic)--but all I'm offering up is a few moments of my time and a couple of words of support and comfort, so it's really no big deal.

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[Small update - Mr. Brown from channel 13 has attempted to reach the builder several times, but the builder will not take or return his calls. ]

(you know, it all depends WHEN they tried to call, IF they called my office on friday, a saturday(the date this was posted) no one would be there to answer.

SHELLY what frenzy was occuring in 1995?

IT is interesting that the images have a date of AUGUST of THIS year. IF YOU ARE HAVING ISSUES AND ON GOING LEGAL PROCEEDINGS WHY WOULDN'T YOU HAVE CORRECTED THE DATE ON YOUR CAMERA so there would be NO questions about the date??? Instead of having (Dated with wrong year, correct date is 8-21-07)

If only the builder would have stepped up to the plate and do the right thing, (TYPICALLY the builder will guarantee their construction for a year or two AFTER completion and FIX ANY problems, no questions asked) BUT(from an earlier post "Your house is also 12 years old and probably needs routine maintenance. Reputation is awfully important in this area, and if they were such shotty builders, they would have gone out of business a long time ago.)

so if you have owned this house for 12 years, it's too late to get the builder/county officials involved, this is a problem that is only YOU have to deal with.(it's like if I had a 1994 car and it has a problem, there is the 60,000 mile guarantee, but after that, I have to deal with it. fixed the problems their defects caused, or even attempted to help me get some satisfaction from their liability insurance company, I would not be in this mess. [I can personally verify that the builder that YOU did name in that earlier post is VERY upstanding company and does build to and ABOVE code.

Small update - Mr. Brown from channel 13 has attempted to reach the builder several times, but the builder will not take or return his calls. (you know, it all depends WHEN they tried to call, IF they called my office on friday, OR a saturday(the date this was posted).....no one would be there to answer.

[I can personally verify that the builder that YOU did name in that earlier post is VERY upstanding company and does build to and ABOVE code.

You also apparently own a piece of property in Hammock Bay in Freeport that currently has a lein on it:

The property has a lein against it, although according to the clerk of courts you were quick deeded this property after obtaining a mortgage on it. Could you please explain the discrepency the clerk of courts has presented?

In addition the property in question is the following:

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You purchased this property in 1995 and are complaining of water intrusion now. You also purchased the home 6 months prior to Hurricane Opal. The house has since been thru multiple other Hurricanes and only recently are you slandering the builder.

Long and short you may feel that I am being callous, mean, or hurtful; but these are legally documented facts and it appears that you have backed yourself into an untenable financial corner and are simply lashing out at anyone who you feel has caused you undue harm.

I would add that any builder, or any other business, that has been in business here for 16 years is doing something right. They may also make mistakes, as we all do, but it's how you deal with your mistakes that sets a successful business apart.

SWGB, I am all for the use of public records, to their fullest extent, but Yippie is a private citizen and you went over the line IMO in posting such personal detail. You could have just asked the pointed and relevant questions -- which are good ones -- and let her answer them first before posting direct links, calling her by name and making assumptions about what has happened.

Yes, there is a lien on that piece of property for the association dues. I guess if I had not taken a second mortgage on my home in an attempt to repair it, then having to move and pay for a rental house, utilities on two properties, etc, those association dues would have been paid.



Different piece of property. There is no mortgage on that piece of property and had you read the document properly. you would have noticed it was deeded TO me, not from me.



I am not slandering the builder. Just simply quoting the facts.



This was quoted on an earlier thread, if only they had dealth with the mistakes properly.... by fixing their defect.

Now, there is no reason for me to justify any other property I own and lashing out like you are doing give me reason to be very suspicious of you. However, had I not taken out a second mortgage on my house, then had to move into a rental house when the repairs did not work, basically paying 3 mortgages and have other obligations, then I guess that lien wouldn't be on that Hammock Bay Property, now would it?

So you're the builder Destinscuba? Why not call Mr. Brown and give him your side of the story?

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I don't believe I have posted anything on the builders personal life. However, if I had the time, I could very well do that. But, I don't think this is the place for a personal attack.

This debate is about a contractor who made a mistake, if it was them, or their subs that were responsible, it has caused major problems. THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY FALLS ON THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR WHO BUILT THE HOUSE to make sure it is built properly and mine was not. And they did not step up to the plate and fix the problem. No moisture barrier on a house in this area causes great problems and is a major code violation.

You want to talk about the character of people?

I am personally paying for my attorney, I have personally paid for the enviromental testing (even when his insurance company requested it), I have personally paid for the repairs, I have personally paid for the rental house I am now living in (and utilities).. AND I AM STILL PAYING TWO MORTGAGES, UTILITIES, ON A HOUSE THAT I CANNOT LIVE IN AND HAVE BUSTED MY ARSE TRYING TO FIND ANYONE TO INSURE A DAMAGED HOUSE.

I have financed every bit of this on my own.

I comb Shelly's posts looking for slip-ups, trying to make a composite . I don't find anything helpful.

:shock:...another stalker? And to think I just got finished getting an RO on BobbyJ :roll:

Amuse me...what composite have you come up with so far?


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Yippie,

I have been a little backed up lately. I have not had time to read this entire thread but do understand you have been ill. Very sorry to hear about this. Was your home constructed without a moisture barrier between the siding and the plywood?