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Beach Comber
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Prominence

Has anyone heard anything as far as pricing\release info for this neighborhood located next to Watersound?

Thx.

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alongfortheride avatar
Beach Comber
#2
Re: Prominence

About 2 mos ago, I got an email. They priced the lots just south of 30A at about 950k if I remember. :floor: Don't know how many suckers paid that though
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#3
Re: Prominence

About 2 mos ago, I got an email. They priced the lots just south of 30A at about 950k if I remember. :floor: Don't know how many suckers paid that though

And these guys, at the soiree held about 1.5 years ago, said that it was important for them to include affordable housing mixed into the community. I think you can bet your life's savings, that you should have doubled if you took my advice on betting on another thread, on Prominence not selling affordable housing. If you were at the meeting, I am the one who questioned them saying that to win votes with the public. They did not know how to respond.
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#4
Re: Prominence

And these guys, at the soiree held about 1.5 years ago, said that it was important for them to include affordable housing mixed into the community. I think you can bet your life's savings, that you should have doubled if you took my advice on betting on another thread, on Prominence not selling affordable housing. If you were at the meeting, I am the one who questioned them saying that to win votes with the public. They did not know how to respond.


SJ...give us a little definition of Prominence...I bet it won't hint at "affordable"!
Kurt avatar
Admin
#5
Re: Prominence

http://www.prominencefl.com

More "waterfront" property on Scenic 30-A to be developed
An 80-acre project near WaterSound that runs north and south of 30-A will include a large retention pond that will create a "harbor". The new development, Prominence, is billed as a town where people can live, shop and work, and is planned by the same firm that planned Sandestin's Baytowne Wharf. The planner is copying elements from Nantucket, Mass., in an attempt to complement the New-England-themed WaterSound community. Prominence will include a theater with a balcony that will be used for live performances, and movies. There are plans for a soda fountain across the corner with a bank nearby.

Development of 400 residential units, 200,000 square feet commercial, 100 hotel units on 78 acres.

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Beach Fanatic
#6
Re: Prominence

Thanks for the info. Have they broke ground yet? Where exactly is this going to be? East or West of WaterSound? Isn't the State Park nearby?

100 hotel rooms? 400 more residential units and we think we have alot of inventory now? What is the start and expected end date to the community?
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directionally challenged
#7
Re: Prominence

Thanks for the info. Have they broke ground yet? Where exactly is this going to be? East or West of WaterSound? Isn't the State Park nearby?

100 hotel rooms? 400 more residential units and we think we have alot of inventory now? What is the start and expected end date to the community?

Last time I saw it, they've got the sign up and were moving the dirt around. Haven't really looked in a couple of weeks. It's actually on a piece of property on 30A kinda surrounded by Watersound isn't it Kurt? East of Lakewood and before the Watersound main entrance.

950K :floor: . I'm sure they'll get it. But no beach and how are they making a harbor? Thought they had no water access. Anybody got the plat?

I can't wait for the movies. Hopefully they'll be more than old 3 stooges movies. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Beach Fanatic
#8
Re: Prominence

:scratch: Is it $950k for a lot on the north side or south side of 30-A?
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#9
Re: Prominence

Last time I saw it, they've got the sign up and were moving the dirt around. Haven't really looked in a couple of weeks. It's actually on a piece of property on 30A kinda surrounded by Watersound isn't it Kurt? East of Lakewood and before the Watersound main entrance.

950K :floor: . I'm sure they'll get it. But no beach and how are they making a harbor? Thought they had no water access. Anybody got the plat?

I can't wait for the movies. Hopefully they'll be more than old 3 stooges movies. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:


At the first public meeting, they displayed sketches of the "harbour" being created on both sides of Hwy 30-A. They are going to dig one out a few feet deep, and that will be used to retain water runoff. I really laughed at that meeting when they said they were going to have a movie theatre. I am thinking $30 per movie, who is going? My guess is that this great vision they had may not make it to reality.
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#10
Re: Prominence

http://www.prominencefl.com

More "waterfront" property on Scenic 30-A to be developed
An 80-acre project near WaterSound that runs north and south of 30-A will include a large retention pond that will create a "harbor". The new development, Prominence, is billed as a town where people can live, shop and work, and is planned by the same firm that planned Sandestin's Baytowne Wharf. The planner is copying elements from Nantucket, Mass., in an attempt to complement the New-England-themed WaterSound community. Prominence will include a theater with a balcony that will be used for live performances, and movies. There are plans for a soda fountain across the corner with a bank nearby.

Development of 400 residential units, 200,000 square feet commercial, 100 hotel units on 78 acres.
commercial; and 100 hotel units is proposed for some 78 acres on either side of Hwy 30-
A.
commercial; and 100 hotel units is proposed for some 78 acres on either side of Hwy 30-
A.


Doesn't this remind you of the Walton Undercurrent article about the "Nordic" development? That was funny!
TooFarTampa avatar
SoWal Insider
#11
Re: Prominence

At the first public meeting, they displayed sketches of the "harbour" being created on both sides of Hwy 30-A. They are going to dig one out a few feet deep, and that will be used to retain water runoff. I really laughed at that meeting when they said they were going to have a movie theatre. I am thinking $30 per movie, who is going? My guess is that this great vision they had may not make it to reality.


Yeah, a movie theater. South of 30-A. Riiiiiiiight! :floor:

I take it this is the parcel that appears on the map of Watersound as being "privately owned property." I always wondered who that someone else would be. Seems like a lot of busy-ness in the middle of what is supposed to be a peaceful community.

http://www.arvida.com/watersound/community_map.asp

The whole concept annoys me for some reason. I'm with wetwilly; who is going to buy into it now?
bsmart avatar
brain
#12
Re: Prominence

More development in my area--my family has a condo at Seamist. I remember a time when you could walk down by the lake and there would be nude sunbathers on the sight where the condo complex of Watersound currently sits 😀. Not anymore though, at least I dont think there are anymore there? :confused:
katie blue avatar
kt loo
#13
Re: Prominence

Its the name that annoys me... "Prominence". is it supposed to not-so-subtly appeal to those who seek "prominence" or something? I'd be rather shy about it if I lived there. It's much like those entry-level cars with names like "Aspire" and "Esteem" .

(but that said, hey, BRING ON that movie theater. Seems like a cash cow for any compnay who develops that south of 98, especially if theyre smart enough to keep the price point low enough for visitors, locals and service people alike.)
Beach Fanatic
#14
Re: Prominence

Its the name that annoys me... "Prominence". is it supposed to not-so-subtly appeal to those who seek "prominence" or something? I'd be rather shy about it if I lived there. It's much like those entry-level cars with names like "Aspire" and "Esteem" .

(but that said, hey, BRING ON that movie theater. Seems like a cash cow for any compnay who develops that south of 98, especially if theyre smart enough to keep the price point low enough for visitors, locals and service people alike.)

If you go to the Prominence website it states that the community was named this because the prominent place that this community has along C-30-A. Neat idea on some level but it is squeezed in and bordered on the east and west side (engulfed) by WaterSound. How did they get this land and approval for the chapel and movie theater so. of 30-A and the pond/mud hole they call a harbour? It looks from the sketches/renderings on the website to be a multi-family community (at least So of 30-A). :idontno:
beachmouse avatar
Beach Fanatic
#15
Re: Prominence

I'm still trying to figure out if 'Prominence' actually edges out 'Destiny' in the pretentious subdivisions and developments name game.
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#16
Re: Prominence

Its the name that annoys me... "Prominence". is it supposed to not-so-subtly appeal to those who seek "prominence" or something? I'd be rather shy about it if I lived there. It's much like those entry-level cars with names like "Aspire" and "Esteem" .

(but that said, hey, BRING ON that movie theater. Seems like a cash cow for any compnay who develops that south of 98, especially if theyre smart enough to keep the price point low enough for visitors, locals and service people alike.)

Originally, Prominence had another name, which slips my mind.

Regarding that beach access someone asked about, I recall the peeps at the soiree hoping to work out a deal with WaterSound about using WS's footpaths to have access to the beach. Most people at the soiree did not believe that Prom. could pull it off. We will see. Maybe if they give out free seats in that movie theatre to all WS peeps. :lol:
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#17
Re: Prominence

I just think it is silly for these developments to try to win our hearts by saying they will have this or that, and they cannot produce in the end, nor have they really thought through it completely. Not all developers are doing this, but Prominence seems to have done just that. Public meetings help include the locals or people in close proximity to the land, but in the end, I question their reasons.

I am sure Prominence will be a pretty place, judging by the sketches which I have seen, and the theme of the overall layout. My big beef is with them saying that they would have affordable housing. That is my only beef. The movie theatre, maybe they know something that the rest of us don't. I guess we will see soon enough.

Now that I think about it, I do have a problem with so many different communities popping up that are 180 degree opposite from one to the next. I think it contributes to the lack of a central community. I enjoy diversity in people, but I don't want to feel like I am travelling through thirty countries when I drive the 17 mile stretch of 30-A. I may have to stick to Grayton, Seaside, and WaterCooler.

In summary, I probably am just a little grouchy because I did not make sunset today. Okay, now that I have found the real reason, I feel better. Sorry to the peeps at Prominence. Breath (I type to myself), breathe.

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Beach Comber
#18
Re: Prominence

Yes, Prominence is completly landlocked. As for the comment that they will work out something with Watersound, u gotta be kidding me. That will NEVER happen. They will probably have a shuttle going to Deer Lake Park. :cool:
alongfortheride avatar
Beach Comber
#19
Re: Prominence

I was talking to the sales office at Watersound about 6 mos ago. He thought that eventually Prominence would sell out to St Joe. Watersound even has streets leading to this area. If the sales don't go well, it would make the most sense for Prominence to sell. I think their whole idea was to create some sort of extra value to the property with all the drawings and planing so they might be able to get more from St Joe. So far they have just moved a little dirt. St Joe is reluctant to pay alot for the land. Thus, a sort of stalemate for the past several mos. The other interesting thing was the fact that during this conversation, I was told that Prominence got only approved for about 42 lots because of the # of trips on 30A was at it's upper limit. St Joes work around for this, if they got the property, was to designate Camp Creek Road as a public street, thus increasing the # of trips available on 30A. St Joe's not dumb.
Kurt avatar
Admin
#20
Re: Prominence

I was talking to the sales office at Watersound about 6 mos ago. He thought that eventually Prominence would sell out to St Joe. Watersound even has streets leading to this area. If the sales don't go well, it would make the most sense for Prominence to sell. I think their whole idea was to create some sort of extra value to the property with all the drawings and planing so they might be able to get more from St Joe. So far they have just moved a little dirt. St Joe is reluctant to pay alot for the land. Thus, a sort of stalemate for the past several mos. The other interesting thing was the fact that during this conversation, I was told that Prominence got only approved for about 42 lots because of the # of trips on 30A was at it's upper limit. St Joes work around for this, if they got the property, was to designate Camp Creek Road as a public street, thus increasing the # of trips available on 30A. St Joe's not dumb.

Thanks for the info.
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#21
Re: Prominence

Yes, Prominence is completly landlocked. As for the comment that they will work out something with Watersound, u gotta be kidding me. That will NEVER happen. They will probably have a shuttle going to Deer Lake Park. :cool:

I think Prominence made reference to Seaside not blocking WaterColor from walking thru to gain beach access. You cannot drive through, but walking is not a problem.
beachmouse avatar
Beach Fanatic
#22
Re: Prominence

Now that I think about it, I do have a problem with so many different communities popping up that are 180 degree opposite from one to the next. I think it contributes to the lack of a central community. I enjoy diversity in people, but I don't want to feel like I am travelling through thirty countries when I drive the 17 mile stretch of 30-A. I may have to stick to Grayton, Seaside, and WaterCooler.

On the other hand, I like that kind of architectural clutter. It makes the area seem a little more organic, and like the neighborhoods all developed at different paces and different times. Not quite so prefab.

I still think Promenence is a cheesy name though.
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Christini Zambini
#23
Re: Prominence

I got the price list a few months ago, and I think the lots were around $1.2. They must have come down some since then. I just laughed and deleted the email.

I too have heard that Watercolor has been trying to buy out Prominence for several years.

I thought that St. Joe already had plans to turn Watersound Parkway into a public road in a few years.

The movie theatre will also be a theatre for stage productions and concerts. I think the theatre is a good idea, but I'm not too excited about the rest of the development. It seems that the planning/permitting has taken so long that they missed the boat on the 2004 real estate market.
Beach Lover
#24
Re: Prominence

One more comment on the theater.... I think it is great to bring in more venues for cultural options on 30-A. It really can only be another asset/resource to the area if someone is willing to spend the money on a project like that.

If I were them, however, I would be concerned that Seaside also has plans for a beautiful outdoor performing arts center in the Lyceum area of Seaside. Already having an 'arts' reputation, a troup for play performances, concerts, etc. at Seaside, that will be pretty stiff competition.

Please understand I wouldn't be biased or anything.... 😀
Camp Creek Kid avatar
Christini Zambini
#25
Re: Prominence

I'm not "hostile" toward this development. However, I was a little offended at their very high prices at a time when the market has obviously slowed and sales in established developments nearby (Watersound, Rosemary) are sluggish. Prominence isn't "prominent" enough to justify a $1.2 mil lot with no beach access.
Camp Creek Kid avatar
Christini Zambini
#26
Re: Prominence

One more comment on the theater.... I think it is great to bring in more venues for cultural options on 30-A. It really can only be another asset/resource to the area if someone is willing to spend the money on a project like that.

If I were them, however, I would be concerned that Seaside also has plans for a beautiful outdoor performing arts center in the Lyceum area of Seaside. Already having an 'arts' reputation, a troup for play performances, concerts, etc. at Seaside, that will be pretty stiff competition.

Please understand I wouldn't be biased or anything.... 😀

I disagree. I live about a mile from "Prominence" and I'd glady attend events at their theatre. Also, the Seaside Rep. is based in Seaside, but they also travel to other venues to put on shows--Rosemary, Baytowne, etc. Most of the larger developments also all have concerts, outdoor movies, etc. and there doesn't seem to by any problems with competition. There isn't anywhere on 30A that has movies (first run or classic) in an indoor theater.

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