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Foreclosure Filings Nearly Double

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Foreclosure Filings Nearly Double

Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:07:21 AM
By ALEX VEIGA
Foreclosure filings across the U.S. nearly doubled last month compared with September 2006, as financially strapped homeowners already behind on mortgage payments defaulted on their loans or came closer to losing their homes to foreclosure, a real estate information company said Thursday.
A total of 223,538 foreclosure filings were reported in September, up from 112,210 in the same month a year ago, according to Irvine-based RealtyTrac Inc.
The number of filings in September was down 8 percent from August's 243,947, the firm said.
Despite the sequential decline, the September figure represents the second-highest total for filings in a single month since the company began tracking monthly filings two years ago.
"August was an extraordinarily high month for foreclosure activity, so some falloff was almost predictable," said Rick Sharga, RealtyTrac's vice president for marketing.
The filings include default notices, auction sale notices and bank repossessions. Some properties might have received more than one notice if the owners have multiple mortgages.
Typically, borrowers must be 60 to 90 days past due on their mortgage payments before their lender will consider them in default, the first stage of the foreclosure process. If a homeowner can't find a way to get current on payments, the home is then often put up for auction, and if it doesn't sell, it eventually goes back to the bank.
In all, 39 states saw a decline in foreclosure filings, the firm said.
Sharga noted that there was a spike in the number of bank repossessions in August that did not occur in September.
It's likely that the sequential decline in foreclosure activity between August and September was just a blip, not a bellwether of lessening foreclosure filings.
"We don't see September as the beginning of the end in this cycle of foreclosures," Sharga said.
The foreclosure rate for the nation in September was one foreclosure filing for every 557 households, the firm said.
The U.S. housing market has seen sales decline and home prices fall or remain flat, making it harder for homeowners who can't afford to make mortgage payments to sell their homes or seek refinancing.
Many of those troubled homeowners were among those who took on adjustable-rate mortgages that are now adjusting to a higher interest rate, translating into payments they cannot afford to make.
The rising delinquencies and foreclosures this year have led the mortgage industry to tighten lending standards, further narrowing options for homeowners struggling to pay their mortgage.
Florida had one foreclosure filing for every 248 households. The state reported 33,354 foreclosure filings in September, down just less than 2 percent from August, but more than three times greater than September 2006's total.

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Contrary to some of the posts I've seen on SoWal about people facing foreclosure, the people in these situations are not just speculators and financially irresponsible people. Many are people who have been laid off or whose salaries have been scaled back due to the changes in the economy. ​


That said, I've been working with people in default and/or foreclosure to assist them in saving their homes, and have some advice for those of you in trouble with your mortgages. The biggest mistake that people make is acting too late. If you can't afford your monthly payment, do something about it. See if you can refinance before you get behind on your payments. If you get a couple of months behind, contact your lender & see if they can work with you. Trust me, the lenders don't want your property, especially in this market. You'd be surprised at the options that are available, especially if the lender realizes that the property is over-leveraged. And, for heaven's sake, if you get served with foreclosure papers, contact an attorney immediately. Even if you are willing to give up the property, if you get a foreclosure judgment you will be responsible for paying the difference between the amount owed (including interest, late fees and the lender's attorney fees) and the amount that the property sells for at the foreclosure auction. An attorney may be able to negotiate a better deal for you.​

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Bobby J avatar
Beach Fanatic
#27
2/3 seems a bit high from what I am looking at.... I am not sure it really matters. My point was how people are perceiving the market due to the latest "trends" the media talks about.

Meanwhile, the sophisticated buyer is gobbling up really great deals! Had a client the other day tell me we are cheaper then Costa Rica. As far as insurance goes keep looking around. My coverage was canceled by Allstate and my new company (Palms) came in cheaper. Thanks Allstate!:biggrin:
SHELLY avatar
SoWal Insider
#28
I asked him to play a little excercise with me.
How many condos do you believe sold in areas 14 and 15 (Destin, Sandestin) since 01/01/2007?

Did he ask how many condos have come on the market in areas 13 and 15 since 01/01/2007? And what is the present total?


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Beach Fanatic
#29
Can a person just go to a bank and find out what they have? Are these websites like foreclosure.com good? :idontno:
Beach Fanatic
#31
:cool: Thanks, Shell :wave:
Bobby J avatar
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#32
Did he ask how many condos have come on the market in areas 13 and 15 since 01/01/2007? And what is the present total?


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No Shelly he did not ask about areas 13 and 15 at all. He merely thought we were at a complete stand still.... I do not want to debate with you over the computer. If you would like to make an appointment to meet me at my office please call. You have already stood me up twice and my feelings are starting to get hurt. :cry:
Mango avatar
SoWal Insider
#33
Just an observation:ACORN advocates greater home ownership opportunity for minorities. Enter relaxed lending standards and risky mortgages through which minority groups that were frozen out of homeownership realized 'ownership'. Now ACORN wants to fix a problem they visualized as a solution a few short years ago?:idontno:

I am not sure how many affordable built homes purchased were subprime loans, but generally organizations such as these are courted by major Banks who have CRA programs. (The Community Reinvestment Act)
In short, the Lenders have mortgage programs with slightly relaxed guidelines such as those with no credit history could get landlord letters, show utility bills, etc. But these are not subprime mortgages. They are fixed rates, and to boot, are usually about .25% lower in rate than traditional fixed rates. They are full documentation loans and are are closely underwritten by the Lenders.
HUD (a gov't agency) gets all warm and fuzzy when these loans are made when they audit Banks because they need to show they made loans in minority neighborhoods.

I would hope that Acorn steered people to these loan types first.

If they were coop loans, they had to be prime loans, because most subprime lenders did not offer coop loans.

That being said though, someone posted:

The mortgage industry should modify predatory loans to an affordable fixed rate"

I am in partial agreement with that in respect that if the loan was a fully documented loan (no liar loans) and a 4506 tax record is pulled verifying that the income matched the application, paystubs or W2's, and the credit standards meet a prime loan, then that loan could be considered predatory if it was sold as a subprime loan.
It's always been my opinion that strictly subprime lenders should have had access to automated underwriting for prime (FNMA, FHLMC loans) to see if the Borrower qualified in lieu of just buying the loan without doing some due dilegence in that respect.

Other than that, I have a hard time accepting those folks who took subprime adjustables who are crying the blues now saying they didn't know what they might be getting into.
Capricious avatar
Beach Fanatic
#34
"...Kinda my point. I just randomly clicked on MLS 459422, they paid $61,000 in 2004 and sold for $250,000 in 2007. Not bad...."


As this specific property was cited as an example of how
great things are in the local real estate market, I sure would
like a few more details as to the actual property and the
actual circumstances of these "sales"
Beach Fanatic
#35
here is a better example of a big winner in this down market...40 acres purchased in 04 for 1.5 mil sold to walton county school board for 4.2 million
Beach Lover
#36
Bobby:

It appears you have misrepresented the state of the market by using raw data to support the conclusion you wanted the prospect to accept. I propose the main reason sales are so high in Destin has little to do with demand; rather, it is due to the completion of preconstruction projects that were started several years ago. Those who closed YTD due to preconstruction projects reaching completion represent previous not current demand.

I wonder how many of those owners of preconstruction units would have opted out of closing if they could get out without leaving their deposits on the table? As several other posters have hinted, true demand is difficult to guage by taking sales volume at face value.

The next time you discuss the state of the market with prospective buyers, I suggest you would best serve them by qualifying your remarks.

Little Fish
Bobby J avatar
Beach Fanatic
#37
"...Kinda my point. I just randomly clicked on MLS 459422, they paid $61,000 in 2004 and sold for $250,000 in 2007. Not bad...."


As this specific property was cited as an example of how
great things are in the local real estate market, I sure would
like a few more details as to the actual property and the
actual circumstances of these "sales"

I do not believe I said the market was "great". I just said the preception is distorted. There could have been a quick claim deed for all I know. It was the first one I quickly glanced at while writing a contract for a beach home in Destin. :biggrin: Are you looking for details on all 693 sales?
Bobby J avatar
Beach Fanatic
#38
Bobby:

It appears you have misrepresented the state of the market by using raw data to support the conclusion you wanted the prospect to accept. I propose the main reason sales are so high in Destin has little to do with demand; rather, it is due to the completion of preconstruction projects that were started several years ago. Those who closed YTD due to preconstruction projects reaching completion represent previous not current demand.

I wonder how many of those owners of preconstruction units would have opted out of closing if they could get out without leaving their deposits on the table? As several other posters have hinted, true demand is difficult to guage by taking sales volume at face value.

The next time you discuss the state of the market with prospective buyers, I suggest you would best serve them by qualifying your remarks.

Little Fish

Little Fish,

I did not write out my entire conversation with my client. Of course we discussed pre-construction and foreclosure. The point was that things are moving and we are not at a complete stand still. I can not sit here on a forum site and type out every little detail of my conversation. I just want to be sure that others that are looking at this market understand it is not all doom and gloom like soooooo many post on these boards. My remarks were qualified but thanks for making me aware they were not here.
Beach Fanatic
#39
I appreciate the positive note, Bobby J, since I also wouldn't mind selling a townhouse in Seacrest, not desperate or overextended though. ;-) There are certainly plenty of good deals for people with cash to spend. That's why I want to sell my townhouse so I can buy something else, maybe there, maybe in Tennessee. I'm sick of the private beach stuff. :idontno:
:welcome:www.seacrestinsouthwalton.com Now, 389k :wave:

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Capricious avatar
Beach Fanatic
#40
"... do not believe I said the market was "great". I just said the preception is distorted. There could have been a quick claim deed for all I know. It was the first one I quickly glanced at while writing a contract for a beach home in Destin. Are you looking for details on all 693 sales?..."




I am looking for data on the ONE property that you cited as an
example.

Why are you evading answering the question?
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#41
"... do not believe I said the market was "great". I just said the preception is distorted. There could have been a quick claim deed for all I know. It was the first one I quickly glanced at while writing a contract for a beach home in Destin. Are you looking for details on all 693 sales?..."




I am looking for data on the ONE property that you cited as an
example.

Why are you evading answering the question?
The horse has been beaten into negative real estate pate.
goofer avatar
Beach Fanatic
#42
Bobby J

Ignore these posts. Some people are just professional fight-pickers.
Capricious avatar
Beach Fanatic
#43
"..Ignore these posts. Some people are just professional fight-pickers. .."



Sure.

Just as some people are gullible enough to swallow whatever they
are fed.

Care to buy a used car, my friend?

Bobby J posted alleged "sale prices" of a specific property.

Without any other information on this phantom property,
the information is useless.

I suspect an intent to deceive.
goofer avatar
Beach Fanatic
#44
Be careful, "my friend", your written remarks are libelous.
Bobby J avatar
Beach Fanatic
#45
"..Ignore these posts. Some people are just professional fight-pickers. .."



Sure.

Just as some people are gullible enough to swallow whatever they
are fed.

Care to buy a used car, my friend?

Bobby J posted alleged "sale prices" of a specific property.

Without any other information on this phantom property,
the information is useless.

I suspect an intent to deceive.

I suspect you are missing my point...

"Phantom property" How can a phantom property have an MLS number. I have not had time to look back at that MLS number. Nor do I feel I need to. It's all public record and can be obtained by anyone that knows how to work a computer. Like I stated, it was the first one I looked at! It could have been a quick claim deed for all I know. It was not a pre-construction or foreclosure.

I also suspect you should probably apologize to me. Not the best way to make friends on a local forum board.
elgordoboy avatar
Beach Fanatic
#46
I do not believe I said the market was "great". I just said the preception is distorted. There could have been a quick claim deed for all I know. It was the first one I quickly glanced at while writing a contract for a beach home in Destin. :biggrin: Are you looking for details on all 693 sales?
For my edification what exactly is a "quick claim deed"? I am unfamiliar.
SHELLY avatar
SoWal Insider
#47
For my edification what exactly is a "quick claim deed"? I am unfamiliar.

That would be a "QUIT" Claim Deed

Used by a person who wants to transfer their interest in a property to another person or entity; as in the case of divorce or transferring property into trusts for estate planning.

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elgordoboy avatar
Beach Fanatic
#48
That would be a "QUIT" Claim Deed

Used by a person who wants to transfer their interest in a property to another person or entity; as in the case of divorce or transferring property into trusts for estate planning.

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Thanks. I am back in familiar territory now. :D
SHELLY avatar
SoWal Insider
#49
If you would like to make an appointment to meet me at my office please call. You have already stood me up twice and my feelings are starting to get hurt. :cry:

I don't make house calls.


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SHELLY avatar
SoWal Insider
#50
:cool: Thanks, Shell :wave:

If you are thinking about buying a foreclosure, be aware of what happens to some of these things; some homeowers aren't the happiest of campers when the bank comes knocking.

"Just before the bank took possession of a home in northwestern Riverside County, its former owners attacked the walls with paintball guns and smashed gaping holes in them.

They ripped out stair railings, banisters and cabinet doors in the half-million-dollar Eastvale house. Then they turned on the upstairs bathroom sinks, put down the drain stoppers and fled as the bank's locksmith arrived to rekey the doors.

At least this is what real estate inspectors, working for the bank, concluded after they found the roughly two-year-old dream home soaked and halfway gutted. They say it wasn't even the worst that they encounter. "

Full Article: http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_D_repo12.251476d.html

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Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#51
For my edification what exactly is a "quick claim deed"? I am unfamiliar.
Nitpicking minutiae is not edifying for anyone.

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