Smiling JOe
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
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Local newschannel 13 out of Panama City just announced that the winning bidders for the new PCB (West Bay) Airport construction were decided upon last night. Now they are awaiting one final permit from the Corp of Engineers who have recently stated that no Ivory Billed Woodpeckers inhabit the area, so all objections have been cleared and removed, and the airport construction can begin when the final permit is issued. Opening is still expected in 2009.
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45RambunksciousRambunksciousBeach Lover136 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
Shelley, hold up one finger for 2007
hold up one finger for 2008
hold up one finger for 2009
Note: This is not 1.5 fingers.
hold up one finger for 2008
hold up one finger for 2009
Note: This is not 1.5 fingers.
RambunksciousRambunksciousBeach Lover136 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
Shelley, hope it doesn't take your builder THREE YEARS to build a 2500 sf beach house, if it does, you might want to make some new plans.
Babyblue
BabyblueBeach FanaticSeagrove Beach525 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Mr SHELLY, at least this is what I think, The rapid build-out time will have to do more with the Military, the traffic going in to Eglin Air Force Base will be greatly reduced if not eliminated in time. This will make national security very happy. Just what I see.
You are correct. Commercial flights will no longer fly into the base, at Hurlbert when the new airport is completed.
00seer0000seer00Beach LoverPCB112 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
Actually, they're looking to expand the civilian commercial air traffic at Eglin, and are one of the places actively recruiting Southwest. (along with Pensacola and Panama City)
I can't see the Ft. Walton crowd rushing to drive upwards of an hour and a half to the new Bay County airport when there are a decent number of flights out of Eglin as it is, and the Pensacola airport is a half hour closer if you need a flight you can't get from Eglin.
You may be right, but most I know now drive the hour to FWB to save on Air Fair, this will be so when PCB Airport is operational with Southwest. I don't see expansion in FWB if PCB is a go. The Military will out weigh any of our inputs.
beachmouse
beachmouseBeach FanaticBluewater Bay, FL3,499 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
The military is pretty generous with their civilian air slots. Right now, commercial air is using only using about 70-75% of what slots Eglin allocates for that purpose. Even if they cut the allocation they wouldn't have to cur actual flight numbers.
As for long-term plans, they never would have built the new VPS terminal in 2004 if there were plans to phase out commercial civilian air so soon, no matter how much the old terminal resembled an African World Bank project from the 1960s.
And commercial air DOES NOT fly into Hurlburt Field. Never would because of the nature of the mission out there. Babyblue, perhaps people would believe you a little more if you got some very basic facts corect.
As for long-term plans, they never would have built the new VPS terminal in 2004 if there were plans to phase out commercial civilian air so soon, no matter how much the old terminal resembled an African World Bank project from the 1960s.
And commercial air DOES NOT fly into Hurlburt Field. Never would because of the nature of the mission out there. Babyblue, perhaps people would believe you a little more if you got some very basic facts corect.
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SHELLY
SHELLYSoWal Insider5,763 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Shelley, hold up one finger for 2007
hold up one finger for 2008
hold up one finger for 2009
Note: This is not 1.5 fingers.
By george Rambun, you are right....I was reading some old articles put out by the JOE spinmeisters:
"The record of decision by the FAA on the new airport is
expected in September," Ray notes; that would
represent the final go-ahead for project. "The state
permits are in hand, the land use entitlements are in
place, and the financing for construction will be finalized
after the record of decision. The airport project has a lot
of momentum now." If all goes according to schedule, the airport will be
completed by late 2008.
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Looks like they missed that one.
:blush: I stand corrected....
......................so I'll stick another finger up for the Airport. 😀
2.5 fingers.....tick....tick....tick.
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SHELLY
SHELLYSoWal Insider5,763 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Actually, they're looking to expand the civilian commercial air traffic at Eglin, and are one of the places actively recruiting Southwest. (along with Pensacola and Panama City)
My money is on VPS snagging LUV since the demographic/location is a better fit for their low-cost business strategy; it doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense for them to throw money into what will be a black hole at Panama City Airport only to have to relocate 2.5 years later <:roll:> to the new airport.

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beachmouse
beachmouseBeach FanaticBluewater Bay, FL3,499 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Speculation I've heard is that VPS is willing to give dirt cheap landing fees as well. I'm not sure if PNS is a good fit for LUV because they tied up so many resources in getting and keeping Air Tran that I'm not sure how practical it is for them to give the same sorts of concessions to a second discount carrier. And if I were LUV, I wouldn't settle for less than what Air Tran was getting.
Babyblue
BabyblueBeach FanaticSeagrove Beach525 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
The military is pretty generous with their civilian air slots. Right now, commercial air is using only using about 70-75% of what slots Eglin allocates for that purpose. Even if they cut the allocation they wouldn't have to cur actual flight numbers.
As for long-term plans, they never would have built the new VPS terminal in 2004 if there were plans to phase out commercial civilian air so soon, no matter how much the old terminal resembled an African World Bank project from the 1960s.
And commercial air DOES NOT fly into Hurlburt Field. Never would because of the nature of the mission out there. Babyblue, perhaps people would believe you a little more if you got some very basic facts corect.
Sorry for the typo. I meant Eglin. Trying to be "corect."
beachmouse
beachmouseBeach FanaticBluewater Bay, FL3,499 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
There is actually a modest demand for 'fly-in' communities. Build some nice small hangers, fully disclose any noise issues, have a connector to the main runway, and you could have a good community of that sort.
Chickpea
ChickpeaBeach Fanatic30-A Corridor1,151 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Does anyone have CONCRETE knowledge about which airlines will fly in and out of this supposedly new airport - also can anyone coin the term INTERNATIONAL airport? Could international mean possibly mean other than Canada and Mexico or am I nuts to be optimistic???? I just would LOVE to have other options than the nightmare of Delta and Atlanta for international flights.... no speculation please as we can all do that - I would love for someone who has real knowledge of plans to pipe in... Thanks
Mango
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Hop
HopBeach FanaticDune Allen2,228 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Happen to have it open still. 😀
PCB Intl AP
thanks!
beachmouse
beachmouseBeach FanaticBluewater Bay, FL3,499 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Pretty much any airport can call itself an international airport if they build to and follow the right security regulations.
As for new airlines, I've been sayng all along that they're overstating new carriers/air travel increases over the short and medium term. Give it three years, and it if you're lucky you just might get a similar list as Pensacola, which gives you nonstops to: Atlanta, Charlotte, Chicago-O'Hare, Cincinnati, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Ft. Lauderdale, Houston, Jacksonville, Memphis, Orlando, and Tampa
As for new airlines, I've been sayng all along that they're overstating new carriers/air travel increases over the short and medium term. Give it three years, and it if you're lucky you just might get a similar list as Pensacola, which gives you nonstops to: Atlanta, Charlotte, Chicago-O'Hare, Cincinnati, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Ft. Lauderdale, Houston, Jacksonville, Memphis, Orlando, and Tampa
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