Is there a way to get the word out to the Lance Armstrong wannabees that they should ride their bikes on the bike path instead of on the nonexistant shoulder of 30A?
I think it's wonderful that they are out exercising and enjoying the great weather, but my pet peeve is a line of cars waiting to pass a biker ....... when there is a beautifully maintained and empty path just feet away.
Safety issue too - there are some quality and distracted drivers around here who have enough trouble keeping it between the lines and avoiding clipping other cars, let alone a biker they may not see or be aware of.
There are a bunch of reasons that I've heard as to why they don't use the path - skinny tires (BS as I think the path is better than the road in some places), don't want to interfere w/ walkers or slower bikers etc. but I think part of it is that in other areas bike riders aren't supposed to ride on the sidewalk/path. One guy on the road was yelling at other bikers on the path that they were supposed to ride on the road until a friend corrected him.
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TNJedTNJedBeach FanaticSeagrove Beach, FL588 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
TNJedBeach FanaticSeagrove Beach, FL588 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticThe best one is a tag on the front of a Porsche, right below the Porsche emblem, which reads, "Porsche." I bet they pay and extra $25 for that one.
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6thGen6thGenBeach Fanatic1,491 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
6thGenBeach Fanatic1,491 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticThis is your opinion, not proven fact, based on some link you found somewhere. you were the one that reopened this tangent.
I didn't bring up the environmental tangent, beemn did. I just said he was wrong. And it wasn't my opinion or a link I found somewhere. Here is the source.
"Peter Huber is a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research and a columnist for Forbes. An MIT-trained engineer and a Harvard law graduate, Mr. Huber taught engineering at MIT. He served as a law clerk to the then appellate judge Ruth Bader Ginsberg and to Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. He is the author of Hard Green: Saving the Environment from the Environmentalists (Basic Books, 2000). His articles have appeared in scholarly journals (including the Harvard Law Review and the Yale Law Journal), magazines (The New Republic, Science, and Regulation) and many newspapers."
He writes for New Republic and clerked for Ginsberg, so aside from the fact that he's an MIT engineer, he's not exactly a Hannity regular.
John RJohn Rneeds to get out moreConflictinator6,782 postsJoined View profileMessageneeds to get out more
John Rneeds to get out moreConflictinator6,782 postsJoined View profileMessageneeds to get out moreWhile I agree that bikes in the street can be annoying, get over it! You forget that bicycles are environmentally friendly alternative TRANSPORTATION! Not toys! Some of use ride instead of drive. One day you will have to become one of us, or lard out at home. We are going places not just playing. I ride the path and cars not looking are the problem! Get off your D**m cell phone and drive!
yes beemn stated the word 'environmental' while discussing his primary form of transportation...
Beemn, bikes are worse for the environment than SUVs, cars and trucks.
you, then brought up this sideways theory that you beat to within an inch of it's life in another thread. then you referenced the food vs. fuel, blah and indicated that potatovixen post in the other thread. so, i attribute the worthless tangent to you.
I didn't bring up the environmental tangent, beemn did. I just said he was wrong. And it wasn't my opinion or a link I found somewhere. Here is the source....
kathydwellskathydwellsDarlene is my middle name, not my nicknameLacey's Spring, Alabama13,303 postsJoined View profileMessageDarlene is my middle name, not my nickname
kathydwellsDarlene is my middle name, not my nicknameLacey's Spring, Alabama13,303 postsJoined View profileMessageDarlene is my middle name, not my nicknameEverytime this subject comes up I am amazed by the vehicle operators pointing out all the traffic violations of cyclists. Puhhhh.......LEASE :roll: :roll: :roll: ..... Like they never come to a rolling stop, always role at the speed limit, allow 3' when passing a bike, drive back to their condo / house after leaving the Red Bar / Sea Bar / 331 or Grayton Beach tea time only blowing a .08 :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Give Me A Freaking Break :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Dear Mr. RiverOtter,
Thank you for letting me respond to this post. I have to agree with you 100%!
Also, I must say that the tight little biker shorts and shirts do make it alot easier for ME, to slow down and WATCH out for the bikers out there. Now, Mr. Otter, that does not mean that you will ever catch my fat arse in any of them, but on those hot, tanned, serious bikers out there, I think they are eye candy. I for one never actually notice all the stuff that is written on them, because that is not what I am looking at mind you.
Now, dear Mr. RiverOtter ride on ride on!!!!!! ;-)
Sincerely,
Darlene
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lindatatlindatatquirtyToo far from the beach (Chicago 'Burbs)2,813 postsJoined View profileMessagequirty
lindatatquirtyToo far from the beach (Chicago 'Burbs)2,813 postsJoined View profileMessagequirtyI think all of us with SoWal stickers on our cars are guilty too.:roll: :floor:
And those of us with Sowal tattoos on our backsides. 😀
As for the rest of this thread, I'll let you know what I think when my head stops spinning.
MangoMangoSoWal InsiderNew York/ Santa Rosa Beach9,699 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
MangoSoWal InsiderNew York/ Santa Rosa Beach9,699 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal InsiderDear Mr. RiverOtter,
Thank you for letting me respond to this post. I have to agree with you 100%!
Also, I must say that the tight little biker shorts and shirts do make it alot easier for ME, to slow down and WATCH out for the bikers out there. Now, Mr. Otter, that does not mean that you will ever catch my fat arse in any of them, but on those hot, tanned, serious bikers out there, I think they are eye candy. I for one never actually notice all the stuff that is written on them, because that is not what I am looking at mind you.
Now, dear Mr. RiverOtter ride on ride on!!!!!! ;-)
Sincerely,
Darlene
:lolabove: Darlene! :funn: You've made me re-think my position on riding vs. watching. 😀
RiverOtterRiverOttergot any pics?Chattanooga, Tennessee, United States11,444 postsJoined View profileMessagegot any pics?
RiverOttergot any pics?Chattanooga, Tennessee, United States11,444 postsJoined View profileMessagegot any pics?Dear Mr. RiverOtter,
Thank you for letting me respond to this post. I have to agree with you 100%!
Also, I must say that the tight little biker shorts and shirts do make it alot easier for ME, to slow down and WATCH out for the bikers out there. Now, Mr. Otter, that does not mean that you will ever catch my fat arse in any of them, but on those hot, tanned, serious bikers out there, I think they are eye candy. I for one never actually notice all the stuff that is written on them, because that is not what I am looking at mind you.
Now, dear Mr. RiverOtter ride on ride on!!!!!! ;-)
Sincerely,
Darlene
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Okay, I can see the logic of the arguments of bikers being in the road 'cuz of tires, others on the path etc.
Can I at least get agreement that riding 3 across in the road when there is traffic going both ways and another biker going the other way is just plain rude?
Can I at least get agreement that riding 3 across in the road when there is traffic going both ways and another biker going the other way is just plain rude?
Smiling JOeSmiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal ExpertOkay, I can see the logic of the arguments of bikers being in the road 'cuz of tires, others on the path etc.Yes, and I probably have as many complaints against people driving autos as bicycle operators.
Can I at least get agreement that riding 3 across in the road when there is traffic going both ways and another biker going the other way is just plain rude?
BeemnBeemnBeach Loverso wal89 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
Yes I think that would be rude, but do you know why they were riding that way? It is often the case that the car operators are rude to the biker, cutting very close while leaning on the horn, etc. Often the only defense when the road is too narrow for a car to safely pass, is for the cyclist to ride left and block that area. That may have been the case here. Remember even the smallest worm becomes a big man behind the wheel of his hummer!
For the second morning in a row they were riding 3 across and it appeared the sole reason was so they could chat. Didn't see any sign of rude car drivers, hear any horns etc.
I've definitely been seeing some quality driving lately...........never knew a stop sign was such a confusing thing :rolling:
I've definitely been seeing some quality driving lately...........never knew a stop sign was such a confusing thing :rolling:
Uncle TimmyUncle TimmyBeach FanaticBlue Mountain Beach1,013 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Uncle TimmyBeach FanaticBlue Mountain Beach1,013 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticOk - I have a new reason to encourage bikers NOT to ride on 30-A but head up to 98:
(And I never realized this before this thread and I started paying attention)
There is no shoulder on most of 30-A
There is a 3'+ shoulder on both sides of 98.
-And the 98 shoulders are marked as bike lanes!! Very few cross streets. The cars can easily move into the inside lane to pass!!
Ride your bikes on 98. If you want to ride along Scenic 30-A, there is no excuse not to slow down , and enjoy the ride on the bike path.
(And I never realized this before this thread and I started paying attention)
There is no shoulder on most of 30-A
There is a 3'+ shoulder on both sides of 98.
-And the 98 shoulders are marked as bike lanes!! Very few cross streets. The cars can easily move into the inside lane to pass!!
Ride your bikes on 98. If you want to ride along Scenic 30-A, there is no excuse not to slow down , and enjoy the ride on the bike path.
beachmousebeachmouseBeach FanaticBluewater Bay, FL3,499 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
beachmouseBeach FanaticBluewater Bay, FL3,499 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticFor the second morning in a row they were riding 3 across and it appeared the sole reason was so they could chat. Didn't see any sign of rude car drivers, hear any horns etc.
I've definitely been seeing some quality driving lately...........never knew a stop sign was such a confusing thing :rolling:
State law says bicyclists aren't supposed to be more than two abreast. I hate it when those kinds of riders do things like that which make it harder for the rest of us.
As for the stop sign, it could be worse. Hardly anyone south of the bridge understands you're supposed to yield to cars already a traffic circle, which makes going through the ones on the backside of Destin Commons or by Home Depot unfortunately interesting.
As for the stop sign, it could be worse. Hardly anyone south of the bridge understands you're supposed to yield to cars already a traffic circle, which makes going through the ones on the backside of Destin Commons or by Home Depot unfortunately interesting.
Wait until they install the 395/30A roundabout!
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