My good friend brought up to me today that my future babies diapers will outlast my babies babies.
I can't stop thinking about this, but I haven't started my research yet.
So I am going to SOWALIZE my search firstly.
Does anyone have ideas on the most green way to handle this inevitable waste?
Obviously, I have thought about cloth but cloth requires washing in chemicals... water... I just trying to figure out the best solution while someone out there may have already figured this out.
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47Beach Fanatic
Let 'em run naked, there is no good solution. I went through cloth diapers, the diaper wraps, the cornstarch diapers, an air flight in which my daughter and I both arrived drenched (for long trips with a baby that is wearing cloth diapers put rubber pants on them). With cloth you may not use the chemicals but you will be using a lot of water with the extra laundry, not just diapers but clothes and bedding. With disposables you have all of the environmental impact. Maybe you could cut leg holes in the reusable Publix/Target/@#$%mart bags and use those. ๐
Not a bad idea!:clap:
Thanks for all the info guys! Just wanna do the right thing when I can.
Beach Fanatic
Of course you can always go diaper free with Elimination Communication....
www.diaperfreebaby.org/
I actually met someone who was doing this with her 4 month old. It freaked me out that she would take a little Bjorn potty with her everywhere & take her baby to the potty at such a young age. I was tempted to buy a book on it to read more about it, but there's no way in HAIL that I am going to do that. More power to anyone who does, but that ain't in my job description.:rolling:
www.diaperfreebaby.org/
I actually met someone who was doing this with her 4 month old. It freaked me out that she would take a little Bjorn potty with her everywhere & take her baby to the potty at such a young age. I was tempted to buy a book on it to read more about it, but there's no way in HAIL that I am going to do that. More power to anyone who does, but that ain't in my job description.:rolling:
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Let 'em run naked, there is no good solution. I went through cloth diapers, the diaper wraps, the cornstarch diapers, an air flight in which my daughter and I both arrived drenched (for long trips with a baby that is wearing cloth diapers put rubber pants on them). With cloth you may not use the chemicals but you will be using a lot of water with the extra laundry, not just diapers but clothes and bedding. With disposables you have all of the environmental impact. Maybe you could cut leg holes in the reusable Publix/Target/@#$%mart bags and use those. ๐
You are totally right.๐
:nono1: to cloth diapers & long trips of any kind. We have an agreement that he goes in a Pamper at night to avoid pee everyone & the crazy changes. He's in cloth during the day, but if we are out & about for a while.... Pampers.
Motherhood is an act of balance between what you believe in, what you can handle & what the heck just happens out of the blue. That's why I don't like telling anyone what to do about being a mom. It's all about personal choice.
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Of course you can always go diaper free with Elimination Communication....
www.diaperfreebaby.org/
I actually met someone who was doing this with her 4 month old. It freaked me out that she would take a little Bjorn potty with her everywhere & take her baby to the potty at such a young age. I was tempted to buy a book on it to read more about it, but there's no way in HAIL that I am going to do that. More power to anyone who does, but that ain't in my job description.:rolling:
You beat me to it--this fascinates me. I think it's especially interesting when I see pictures of my grandfather when he was just barely walking, and he is in a dress in the front yard. I would bet a gazillion dollars that most of the time he was going commando under the dress, and great-grandmother (or great aunts/big sisters) would wipe him up every so often.
It sounds like a big fat pain in the butt, but when I think about how quickly a kitten can be litter trained, it makes me wonder...
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You beat me to it--this fascinates me. I think it's especially interesting when I see pictures of my grandfather when he was just barely walking, and he is in a dress in the front yard. I would bet a gazillion dollars that most of the time he was going commando under the dress, and great-grandmother (or great aunts/big sisters) would wipe him up every so often.
It sounds like a big fat pain in the butt, but when I think about how quickly a kitten can be litter trained, it makes me wonder...
:clap::clap:It does fascinate me but in today's world, baby commando's would be difficult to handle.
SoWal Guide
Of course you can always go diaper free with Elimination Communication....
www.diaperfreebaby.org/
I actually met someone who was doing this with her 4 month old. It freaked me out that she would take a little Bjorn potty with her everywhere & take her baby to the potty at such a young age. I was tempted to buy a book on it to read more about it, but there's no way in HAIL that I am going to do that. More power to anyone who does, but that ain't in my job description.:rolling:
If I had a baby now, God forbid, I would be interested in this solution to diapers. maybe. only because I have seen how tiny ones learn things so quickly (1) if you let them, and (2) if they are ready. a mom has to be very sensitive to both of these criteria. that is why I don't like to hear a pediatrician advise not to potty train before a certain age because some kids, especially girls, are ready quite early. some kids, especially boys, are not ready and never will be until you provide some gentle motivation and experience for them.
I had my boy trained by 2, and it was hell in some ways, but with support from the montessori school we mainly had a good experience. after he was half potty trained, the teacher said, "no more diapers". so we dressed in underwear and pants. we had many messes. but it was uncomfortable for him to have messy pants, unlike a diaper when boys don't mind the mess at all. I almost vomited every time, and he had to help clean himself up. the key was trying not be mad at him - he's only learning and experimenting with his body. it did not take long and he was a little potty going toddler! also, with boys, I've seen friends wait too late because the child didn't express interest - and then it was really and truly hell.
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If I had a baby now, God forbid, I would be interested in this solution to diapers. maybe. only because I have seen how tiny ones learn things so quickly (1) if you let them, and (2) if they are ready. a mom has to be very sensitive to both of these criteria. that is why I don't like to hear a pediatrician advise not to potty train before a certain age because some kids, especially girls, are ready quite early. some kids, especially boys, are not ready and never will be until you provide some gentle motivation and experience for them.
I had my boy trained by 2, and it was hell in some ways, but with support from the montessori school we mainly had a good experience. after he was half potty trained, the teacher said, "no more diapers". so we dressed in underwear and pants. we had many messes. but it was uncomfortable for him to have messy pants, unlike a diaper when boys don't mind the mess at all. I almost vomited every time, and he had to help clean himself up. the key was trying not be mad at him - he's only learning and experimenting with his body. it did not take long and he was a little potty going toddler! also, with boys, I've seen friends wait too late because the child didn't express interest - and then it was really and truly hell.
I know when little guy's about to poop. He's pretty obvious about it. I considered doing the EC, but with something like that I wouldn't have had Mr. OM's support. He was drawing the line at that one.... not complaining because he actually delivered little guy at home by ourselves. He's the best daddy in the world but when I mentioned it, he said, "You're nuts & have gone too far on that one.":idontno:๐
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I've cloth diapered exclusively for 4 years now. Cloth is so easy these days.
I also did part-time elimination communication with my oldest, starting at 5mos. If I would have actually put more effort into it he would have been diaper free by 8 or 9mos, but I didn't go whole hog with it and he finished using diapers with the exception of long outings (places we couldn't get to a potty quick enough) by 18mos. The key to EC is realizing that you're not "training" the child... you're listening to their cues, paying very close attention to their needs.
For daycare, most people have the easiest time introducing their daycare provider to cloth with something like a pocket diaper or an all-in-one... a few that come to mind are FuzziBunz, Happy Heinys (for whom I am a retail sales rep), Swaddlebees, Blueberry, BumGenius... Those are the closest things you can get to a disposable.
My littlest has actually been in disposables for the past month since my washing machine is broken and I'm not able to do laundry as often as usual. I really can't stand them though :( I'll be happy when the thing is fixed! I have been using the chlorine free, biodegradeable dipes from Target and they work very well, it's just not the same. And the regular brands such as Pampers have the strangest smell to me when wet... something you'll probably only notice if you've only used cloth (or for a long period of time) and switched.
Anyways, I highly recommend cloth diapers to anyone who wants to try it. If you're just wanting to check it out... order 4 pocket diapers or all-in-ones to get a feel. I did it when my oldest was 6 weeks old (got sick of the up-the-back-blowouts! never had another) and I was hooked. Later you can get into the fitteds and covers, which are a little more complicated, but a favorite for seasoned pros ๐
I also did part-time elimination communication with my oldest, starting at 5mos. If I would have actually put more effort into it he would have been diaper free by 8 or 9mos, but I didn't go whole hog with it and he finished using diapers with the exception of long outings (places we couldn't get to a potty quick enough) by 18mos. The key to EC is realizing that you're not "training" the child... you're listening to their cues, paying very close attention to their needs.
For daycare, most people have the easiest time introducing their daycare provider to cloth with something like a pocket diaper or an all-in-one... a few that come to mind are FuzziBunz, Happy Heinys (for whom I am a retail sales rep), Swaddlebees, Blueberry, BumGenius... Those are the closest things you can get to a disposable.
My littlest has actually been in disposables for the past month since my washing machine is broken and I'm not able to do laundry as often as usual. I really can't stand them though :( I'll be happy when the thing is fixed! I have been using the chlorine free, biodegradeable dipes from Target and they work very well, it's just not the same. And the regular brands such as Pampers have the strangest smell to me when wet... something you'll probably only notice if you've only used cloth (or for a long period of time) and switched.
Anyways, I highly recommend cloth diapers to anyone who wants to try it. If you're just wanting to check it out... order 4 pocket diapers or all-in-ones to get a feel. I did it when my oldest was 6 weeks old (got sick of the up-the-back-blowouts! never had another) and I was hooked. Later you can get into the fitteds and covers, which are a little more complicated, but a favorite for seasoned pros ๐
Beach Fanatic
:wave:I was wondering when you were going to chime in! Saturday was funn! You're kids are so great!
Pampers do smell weird after you use cloth. Didn't know about the Target diapers... that could be our balance in this! Thanks, as always!
Pampers do smell weird after you use cloth. Didn't know about the Target diapers... that could be our balance in this! Thanks, as always!
I've cloth diapered exclusively for 4 years now. Cloth is so easy these days.
I also did part-time elimination communication with my oldest, starting at 5mos. If I would have actually put more effort into it he would have been diaper free by 8 or 9mos, but I didn't go whole hog with it and he finished using diapers with the exception of long outings (places we couldn't get to a potty quick enough) by 18mos. The key to EC is realizing that you're not "training" the child... you're listening to their cues, paying very close attention to their needs.
For daycare, most people have the easiest time introducing their daycare provider to cloth with something like a pocket diaper or an all-in-one... a few that come to mind are FuzziBunz, Happy Heinys (for whom I am a retail sales rep), Swaddlebees, Blueberry, BumGenius... Those are the closest things you can get to a disposable.
My littlest has actually been in disposables for the past month since my washing machine is broken and I'm not able to do laundry as often as usual. I really can't stand them though :( I'll be happy when the thing is fixed! I have been using the chlorine free, biodegradeable dipes from Target and they work very well, it's just not the same. And the regular brands such as Pampers have the strangest smell to me when wet... something you'll probably only notice if you've only used cloth (or for a long period of time) and switched.
Anyways, I highly recommend cloth diapers to anyone who wants to try it. If you're just wanting to check it out... order 4 pocket diapers or all-in-ones to get a feel. I did it when my oldest was 6 weeks old (got sick of the up-the-back-blowouts! never had another) and I was hooked. Later you can get into the fitteds and covers, which are a little more complicated, but a favorite for seasoned pros ๐
Beach Fanatic
CKH, when did your oldest potty train?
Beach Fanatic
CKH, when did your oldest potty train?
Well, he was going on his own, unprompted and not wearing a diaper 80% of the time by 18mos. If I would have let go of my fear of him going in his pants while we were out, that would have been it, he would have been done then. But, I kept putting diaper on him when we went out and he did what he was supposed to do in them :funn: Once I got over it and put him in undies, we had three accidents and that was it. He was about 24 months when that happened.
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This has been so helpful. I can't beleive the tremendous amount of information from this group.
THANK YOU-- please keep sharing!
THANK YOU-- please keep sharing!
Beach Lover
My kids are 10 and 12 now, so my diapering days were LOOONG ago.
I did use a diaper service -- my parents actually bought me a year's service when my first was born and I continued using them. It was really great -- they delivered new and picked up soiled weekly. I never had to wash anything; they did ask that I shake out the poop into the toilet if it was solid enough to do so. But I just threw the soiled ones into a plastic bag we kept in our storage shed. Didn't smell too pleasant, to be sure, but if you have someplace out of the way to keep it, it's not bad.
My daycare didn't mind using them - I just supplied them bags to put the soiled ones in and picked them up each day. (I had a great daycare -- they also didn't mind using my frozen breast milk.)
I don't recall the expense of it, but I remember it being maybe slightly more expensive than disposables.
I did use disposables, like the other moms here, when we were on trips or out for long periods of time.
All this thinking about diapers has at once created a wish that my kids were little again, and a fervent prayer of thanks that they're not! :lol:
I did use a diaper service -- my parents actually bought me a year's service when my first was born and I continued using them. It was really great -- they delivered new and picked up soiled weekly. I never had to wash anything; they did ask that I shake out the poop into the toilet if it was solid enough to do so. But I just threw the soiled ones into a plastic bag we kept in our storage shed. Didn't smell too pleasant, to be sure, but if you have someplace out of the way to keep it, it's not bad.
My daycare didn't mind using them - I just supplied them bags to put the soiled ones in and picked them up each day. (I had a great daycare -- they also didn't mind using my frozen breast milk.)
I don't recall the expense of it, but I remember it being maybe slightly more expensive than disposables.
I did use disposables, like the other moms here, when we were on trips or out for long periods of time.
All this thinking about diapers has at once created a wish that my kids were little again, and a fervent prayer of thanks that they're not! :lol:
Beach Fanatic
There are bags made out of PUL that you can take with you or use at daycares to hold the soiled diapers and you can just throw them in the wash with the diapers themselves.
The diaper champ doesn't smell as long as you wash them every 2 to 2 1/2 days. Any longer and they do, but we have it in the coat closet in the laundry room, away from life itself.๐ My brother had his diaper genie in the bedroom with disposables in it and it STUNK! I couldn't be in there at all.:blink:
I'll be glad when little man's out of diapers and not nursing anymore, but I am going to enjoy the days that he's a baby because it passes so soon.
BTW, CK, you can use my washing machine any time.... IF you teach me how to sew. :blush:
The diaper champ doesn't smell as long as you wash them every 2 to 2 1/2 days. Any longer and they do, but we have it in the coat closet in the laundry room, away from life itself.๐ My brother had his diaper genie in the bedroom with disposables in it and it STUNK! I couldn't be in there at all.:blink:
I'll be glad when little man's out of diapers and not nursing anymore, but I am going to enjoy the days that he's a baby because it passes so soon.
BTW, CK, you can use my washing machine any time.... IF you teach me how to sew. :blush:
My kids are 10 and 12 now, so my diapering days were LOOONG ago.
I did use a diaper service -- my parents actually bought me a year's service when my first was born and I continued using them. It was really great -- they delivered new and picked up soiled weekly. I never had to wash anything; they did ask that I shake out the poop into the toilet if it was solid enough to do so. But I just threw the soiled ones into a plastic bag we kept in our storage shed. Didn't smell too pleasant, to be sure, but if you have someplace out of the way to keep it, it's not bad.
My daycare didn't mind using them - I just supplied them bags to put the soiled ones in and picked them up each day. (I had a great daycare -- they also didn't mind using my frozen breast milk.)
I don't recall the expense of it, but I remember it being maybe slightly more expensive than disposables.
I did use disposables, like the other moms here, when we were on trips or out for long periods of time.
All this thinking about diapers has at once created a wish that my kids were little again, and a fervent prayer of thanks that they're not! :lol:
Beach Fanatic
We have a pail with a liner and I rarely have stink issues with that. As long as the lid fits well it shouldn't stink. We have the little pail deodorizers that go in it too. The thing with those Diaper Genie's and disposables is that those disposables sit in there for a loooong time. The stink really gets going in there. With cloth I've got to empty the pail every couples days.
OM... I couldn't teach someone to sew if my life depended on it, lol!! I'm a terrible, terrible teacher and not afraid to admit it.
Judah (my almost 2 y/o) is showing some signs of being ready for the potty. He's going on the potty a couple times a day, taking his diaper off every time he goes in it, and asking for new ones every 2 minutes.
I would love to do one more newborn in cloth though... it's so soft and squishy. Diapers aren't so much of a hassle when the diapers are soft and cute.
OM... I couldn't teach someone to sew if my life depended on it, lol!! I'm a terrible, terrible teacher and not afraid to admit it.
Judah (my almost 2 y/o) is showing some signs of being ready for the potty. He's going on the potty a couple times a day, taking his diaper off every time he goes in it, and asking for new ones every 2 minutes.
I would love to do one more newborn in cloth though... it's so soft and squishy. Diapers aren't so much of a hassle when the diapers are soft and cute.
Beach Fanatic
My little one likes the idea of having his tooshie wiped & will ask to sit on potty, but the cold seat freaks him out. He tries to wipe everyone else.:roll:
Cloth diapers for newborns are so sweet!
Cloth diapers for newborns are so sweet!
We have a pail with a liner and I rarely have stink issues with that. As long as the lid fits well it shouldn't stink. We have the little pail deodorizers that go in it too. The thing with those Diaper Genie's and disposables is that those disposables sit in there for a loooong time. The stink really gets going in there. With cloth I've got to empty the pail every couples days.
OM... I couldn't teach someone to sew if my life depended on it, lol!! I'm a terrible, terrible teacher and not afraid to admit it.
Judah (my almost 2 y/o) is showing some signs of being ready for the potty. He's going on the potty a couple times a day, taking his diaper off every time he goes in it, and asking for new ones every 2 minutes.
I would love to do one more newborn in cloth though... it's so soft and squishy. Diapers aren't so much of a hassle when the diapers are soft and cute.
Beach Lover
I dont have kids yet, but thought about this awhile back and searched and came up with Gdiapers.
http://www.gdiapers.com/fair-dinkum/newsroom/testimonials
interesting!
http://www.gdiapers.com/fair-dinkum/newsroom/testimonials
interesting!
needs to get out more
my friends swear by g-diapers.
Beach Fanatic
Hmmmm... something that Mr. OM and I could agree on regarding diapers.... thanks for the heads up!
Beach Fanatic
My experience with gDiapers is that they're actually more trouble than cloth. Having to pull the poopy liner out of the cover, then using the swizzle stick to smush it around while flushing the toilet multiple times trying to get it all down, was actually way more trouble than it was worth. And you've still got to wash the covers just like cloth because the liner doesn't cover the entire inside. Not to mention... where's all that Sodium Polyacrylate going? Into the water supply? Eh... I think they're gimmicky, making people think it's easier, but it really isn't.
eta: if you've never used cloth diapers though... you wouldn't know that gDiapers aren't any easier. gDiapers is just going after all the people "on the fence".
eta: if you've never used cloth diapers though... you wouldn't know that gDiapers aren't any easier. gDiapers is just going after all the people "on the fence".
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Beach Fanatic
Thanks! I was looking at them & then told Mr. OM about them.... When he asked what the cost of them was going to be, I realized we were also still in the spending $$$$$ all the time for liners, which is also what we're working to get away from. It's a matter of both environmental & economic cost.
My experience with gDiapers is that they're actually more trouble than cloth. Having to pull the poopy liner out of the cover, then using the swizzle stick to smush it around while flushing the toilet multiple times trying to get it all down, was actually way more trouble than it was worth. And you've still got to wash the covers just like cloth because the liner doesn't cover the entire inside. Not to mention... where's all that Sodium Polyacrylate going? Into the water supply? Eh... I think they're gimmicky, making people think it's easier, but it really isn't.
eta: if you've never used cloth diapers though... you wouldn't know that gDiapers aren't any easier. gDiapers is just going after all the people "on the fence".
SoWal Insider
My experience with gDiapers is that they're actually more trouble than cloth. Having to pull the poopy liner out of the cover, then using the swizzle stick to smush it around while flushing the toilet multiple times trying to get it all down, was actually way more trouble than it was worth. .
Bless your heart. :lol:
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