It is very difficult in my line of work to plan a vacation. Wife and I had a trip planned for June 25-30 for months now only to have it evaporate due to the coronavirus. We are now thinking about a trip to 30A. I know that nobody can predict for sure when or if the suspension on vacation rentals will end by our dates, however any information on the likelihood that might happen by the above dates would be greatly appreciated. If we can't take a vacation on the above dates, it will be quite a while before we can plan another. TIA.
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You're right there is no easy answer.
There will be enormous pressure on state govt to open rentals and they would like nothing better than to do so. I guess it will come down to numbers of infected in local areas and our drive markets. A big question in my mind is whether they do it by region. If SoWal is open and Orlando isn't then more people would come here and Orlando would be hopping mad.
Political pressure will keep rising and without clear direction from leadership it is all up in the air. We are going to likely see numbers rise with the openings and reopenings here and in our drive markets. A rise in GA and FLA infections may delay rentals.
I keep an eye on a lot of sites like
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However FLA has stopped reporting deaths so keep that in mind when looking at it.
There will be enormous pressure on state govt to open rentals and they would like nothing better than to do so. I guess it will come down to numbers of infected in local areas and our drive markets. A big question in my mind is whether they do it by region. If SoWal is open and Orlando isn't then more people would come here and Orlando would be hopping mad.
Political pressure will keep rising and without clear direction from leadership it is all up in the air. We are going to likely see numbers rise with the openings and reopenings here and in our drive markets. A rise in GA and FLA infections may delay rentals.
I keep an eye on a lot of sites like
ArcGIS Dashboards
However FLA has stopped reporting deaths so keep that in mind when looking at it.
Beach Comber
Considering the home rental market comprises about 17% of the Florida hotel/resort market It makes no sense why either everything isn’t shut down or that home rentals are especially allowed given they are way more safe compared to a high concentration hotel. Guess the lobbyists for the hotels are much stronger and more organized than individual home renter-owners could ever hope to be.
Beach ComberAuthor
Well the owner I'm dealing with is telling me he is "hearing" mid to end of May is when the ban is likely to be lifted and he will refund if its not. Which I understand is what most owners are agreeing to.
Beach Fanatic
I have been watching the governors updates daily and I have not heard him give any hints as to when he might open them. As for the home vs. resort/hotels......I personally dont see any difference and think they should ALL be included in the short term rental ban. I do not however think homes are safer. The amount of time it takes to clean/sanitize a small 2 bed hotel room is nothing compared to a 4-6 BR home. You cant even get all the linens washed, much less all the surfaces sanitized. I wouldnt want to sleep in a house, in a bed, that a possibly infected family was sleeping in less that 3 hours before.
Beach Fanatic
I have been watching the governors updates daily and I have not heard him give any hints as to when he might open them. As for the home vs. resort/hotels......I personally dont see any difference and think they should ALL be included in the short term rental ban. I do not however think homes are safer. The amount of time it takes to clean/sanitize a small 2 bed hotel room is nothing compared to a 4-6 BR home. You cant even get all the linens washed, much less all the surfaces sanitized. I wouldnt want to sleep in a house, in a bed, that a possibly infected family was sleeping in less that 3 hours before.Even when rentals return.. there will be a 72 Hour wait before new guess can check end... so rental periods will not be every Sat.-Sat.
Beach Fanatic
Spoiler Alert: You want be happy with this...
Florida Phase 2 Rentals
If the governor agrees with the task force recommendations for Phase 2, though, vacation rentals will be allowed to begin limited operations. According to the task force report, that would include:
Open but operating for in-state reservations only (i.e. only Florida residents)
Rentals to visitors traveling internationally – or from a state or locality with a substantial community spread of COVID-19 – are specifically banned
A mandatory 72-hour hiatus between guest check-ins during which time the rental will be effectively cleaned and disinfected.
Short-term rental units would be required to have signage in all units detailing the cleaning and sanitation procedures
Florida Phase 2 Rentals
If the governor agrees with the task force recommendations for Phase 2, though, vacation rentals will be allowed to begin limited operations. According to the task force report, that would include:
Open but operating for in-state reservations only (i.e. only Florida residents)
Rentals to visitors traveling internationally – or from a state or locality with a substantial community spread of COVID-19 – are specifically banned
A mandatory 72-hour hiatus between guest check-ins during which time the rental will be effectively cleaned and disinfected.
Short-term rental units would be required to have signage in all units detailing the cleaning and sanitation procedures
Beach Fanatic
I think that "Florida residents only" thing will work about as well as the current ban has been..... but I will give it another week and see how the numbers look ...
Beach Fanatic
And keep in mind the task force suggestions can be ignored or changed by the Governor.
Beach Lover
My understanding is that mid May is the *very earliest* that the rental ban may be modified, more likely end of May, early June. Remember, it is covered under Phase 1 of the re-opening, which only began *2 days ago*.
Beach Fanatic
My understanding is that mid May is the *very earliest* that the rental ban may be modified, more likely end of May, early June. Remember, it is covered under Phase 1 of the re-opening, which only began *2 days ago*.634 people just saw this and posted on Facebook that rentals return May 15.
Beach ComberAuthor
Thank you all for the input. Sounding like if I do book place it will be sort of a crap shoot on whether or not I will be able to make the trip. The only consolation is that I would get a full refund but probably not enough time to plan another trip. Mixed emotions about even asking these questions given how the virus has impacted people.
SoWal Insider
I want to see the solution to social distancing in elevators. It’s unnerving even in the best of times.
Beach Lover
I want to see the solution to social distancing in elevators. It’s unnerving even in the best of times.Maybe they can use NYC's plan for "social distancing" in the subways.
SoWal Insider
Maybe they can use NYC's plan for "social distancing" in the subways.Please inform us what that plan is.
Beach Lover
Please inform us what that plan is.From what the governor of NY has said, there is no plan.
SoWal Insider
From what the governor of NY has said, there is no plan.Correct, that’s why when asked about resuming normal operations he said.
“You tell me when the global pandemic is over, I’ll tell you when the 24-hour service resumes.”
Beach Lover
Correct, that’s why when asked about resuming normal operations he said.
“You tell me when the global pandemic is over, I’ll tell you when the 24-hour service resumes.”
This would be the same NY Governor who was in charge of results like these below, in contrast to the Governor of Fl and the results under his watch.
Florida has about 3 million more people than New York, yet has suffered about 1/10th as many confirmed COVID-19 cases and about 1/13th as many deaths. And FL is God's waiting room? Sake the nursing home patient, well ,the surviving ones, in NY about their governor opening their homes 24'7 to confirmed positive cases.
Cuomo has a record of been consistently, often spectacularly, wrong. He unfortunately has a lot of company in that regard. But he is a liberal Democrat from the home state of Leftist See No Evil Hear No Evil Speak No Evil of Democrats Media.
Journalism today is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.
Beach Fanatic
This would be the same NY Governor who was in charge of results like these below, in contrast to the Governor of Fl and the results under his watch.You are suspending reality. NYC is a whole different animal and was inundated with the virus very early on, back in to 2019 with travelres from Europe and every other part of the globe. To be partisan in these times is despicable. You should be ashamed.
Florida has about 3 million more people than New York, yet has suffered about 1/10th as many confirmed COVID-19 cases and about 1/13th as many deaths. And FL is God's waiting room? Sake the nursing home patient, well ,the surviving ones, in NY about their governor opening their homes 24'7 to confirmed positive cases.
Cuomo has a record of been consistently, often spectacularly, wrong. He unfortunately has a lot of company in that regard. But he is a liberal Democrat from the home state of Leftist See No Evil Hear No Evil Speak No Evil of Democrats Media.
Journalism today is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.
Beach Lover
You are suspending reality. NYC is a whole different animal and was inundated with the virus very early on, back in to 2019 with travelres from Europe and every other part of the globe. To be partisan in these times is despicable. You should be ashamed.
Dawn, that you are offended does not make you right. And your moral superiority complex is showing. You are consistently partisan. Those who post on such blogs as this almost always are. Some are intellectually honest about it. Others less so. I'm libertarian philosophically, and I think a look at how Walton County is governed is a microcosmic example of why.
One does not need to be a partisan to read and interpret numbers, and the numbers and the actions of the two governors clearly indicate that DeSantis has done a better job than Cuomo. Your rationalization blanket statement excusing NYC as a whole different animal strikes me as reflexive partisanship. When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. When not, pound the table, and you have.
Is Cuomo to blame for Coronavirus in NY and NYC? No. Could he have done a better job? It appears to me that he certainly could have.
Is DeSantis to blame for Coronavirus in FL? No. Could he have done a better job? I think so. Did he do a better job and make better choices than Cuomo? I think so, and the results to date are supportive of that proposition.
That said, I think, in distinct contrast to you and the majority usually posting on this board that both, indeed, nearly all, governors have over-reacted and violated our fundamental rights under our system of law and government.
We have faced and will continue to face old and new infectious diseases that will kill many. They always have, and they always will. Shutdowns are largely tinkering at the margins in the long run health-wise, but they are harbingers of doom economically.
We have faced and will continue to face governments at all levels populated, read as dominated, by people seeking power and using crises to acquire more of it. Funny thing how many crises are directly caused by the actions of government. And they never let a good crisis go to waste.
Be careful what you wish for. You may have read of The Great Depression, but you are likely too young to have had much interaction with people whose lives were profoundly impacted by it. I'm insufficiently young and have had lots of such interactions. Those living through it didn't have much good to say about the experience or the aftermath for many of those survivors.
I sincerely hope you don't have occasion to experience another Great Depression, but I would not bet the rent money against one. If guys like Cuomo can mandate sending known active Covid cases to nursing homes, just how much arrogant stupidity are they capable of?
Beach Fanatic
Dawn, that you are offended does not make you right. And your moral superiority complex is showing. You are consistently partisan. Those who post on such blogs as this almost always are. Some are intellectually honest about it. Others less so. I'm libertarian philosophically, and I think a look at how Walton County is governed is a microcosmic example of why.You lost me at libertarian and microcosmic.
One does not need to be a partisan to read and interpret numbers, and the numbers and the actions of the two governors clearly indicate that DeSantis has done a better job than Cuomo. Your rationalization blanket statement excusing NYC as a whole different animal strikes me as reflexive partisanship. When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. When not, pound the table, and you have.
Is Cuomo to blame for Coronavirus in NY and NYC? No. Could he have done a better job? It appears to me that he certainly could have.
Is DeSantis to blame for Coronavirus in FL? No. Could he have done a better job? I think so. Did he do a better job and make better choices than Cuomo? I think so, and the results to date are supportive of that proposition.
That said, I think, in distinct contrast to you and the majority usually posting on this board that both, indeed, nearly all, governors have over-reacted and violated our fundamental rights under our system of law and government.
We have faced and will continue to face old and new infectious diseases that will kill many. They always have, and they always will. Shutdowns are largely tinkering at the margins in the long run health-wise, but they are harbingers of doom economically.
We have faced and will continue to face governments at all levels populated, read as dominated, by people seeking power and using crises to acquire more of it. Funny thing how many crises are directly caused by the actions of government. And they never let a good crisis go to waste.
Be careful what you wish for. You may have read of The Great Depression, but you are likely too young to have had much interaction with people whose lives were profoundly impacted by it. I'm insufficiently young and have had lots of such interactions. Those living through it didn't have much good to say about the experience or the aftermath for many of those survivors.
I sincerely hope you don't have occasion to experience another Great Depression, but I would not bet the rent money against one. If guys like Cuomo can mandate sending known active Covid cases to nursing homes, just how much arrogant stupidity are they capable of?
Beach Lover
You lost me at libertarian and microcosmic.
Franky, you made it a lot further than I’d have expected.
Beach Fanatic
Franky, you made it a lot further than I’d have expected.
SoWal Guide
The Republican governors of three states—Georgia, Texas and Florida—that pushed their states to reopen quickly face low marks in their handling of the outbreak, a new poll finds, while governors from both parties that took a more cautious approach to easing restrictions have won praise.
The poll, conducted by the Washington Post and Ipsos in a survey of over 8,000 adults, shows that a governor’s approach to reopening transcends politics, despite the partisan politics playing out over President Trump’s handling of the virus.
The poll found Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, who was slow to shut down his state and one of the first to reopen, with the lowest approval rating at 39%, while Texas Governor Greg Abbott and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis earned the second- and third-lowest marks at 57% and 60%, respectively.
The highest mark was given to Ohio Republican Governor Mike DeWine at 87% approval, who has been heralded for his measured approach to opening the state; New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and California Governor Gavin Newsom, both Democrats, earned the next highest approval with approval from about eight in ten adults.
Forbes May 12
GOP Governors Who Reopened Quickly Met With Low Approval Ratings, New Poll Finds
The poll, conducted by the Washington Post and Ipsos in a survey of over 8,000 adults, shows that a governor’s approach to reopening transcends politics, despite the partisan politics playing out over President Trump’s handling of the virus.
The poll found Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, who was slow to shut down his state and one of the first to reopen, with the lowest approval rating at 39%, while Texas Governor Greg Abbott and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis earned the second- and third-lowest marks at 57% and 60%, respectively.
The highest mark was given to Ohio Republican Governor Mike DeWine at 87% approval, who has been heralded for his measured approach to opening the state; New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and California Governor Gavin Newsom, both Democrats, earned the next highest approval with approval from about eight in ten adults.
Forbes May 12
GOP Governors Who Reopened Quickly Met With Low Approval Ratings, New Poll Finds
Beach Lover
Franky, you made it a lot further than I’d have expected.I learned it from my drill sgt at Ft Campbell in 1966.
Beach Fanatic
I learned it from my drill sgt at Ft Campbell in 1966.Thank you for your sacrifice. I had a nun with a ruler.
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