MRBS
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View attachment 72589 Seems a bit of it in Seacrest today
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92Lake View Too
Lake View TooSoWal InsiderEastern Lake7,000 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
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Maybe this might give you an idea of the magnitude of the cuts in water monitoring that happened because of Rick Scott.
raven316
raven316Beach LoverAthens, GA175 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
I asked because I guessed correctly that you are confusing the green algae coming from Lake Okeechobee from Red Tide that forms in the ocean. It's like confusing an allegation with evidence.“The hopeful one is that strong winds from the hurricane blow red tide offshore,” says Hastings.
But if Tropical Storm Michael turns into a rain maker, it could be bad news .
“The heavy rain will dilute farm and agriculture areas of all the nutrients, nitrates, phosphates and rain them into the beaches and coastal areas that serve to fertilize the red tide, exactly what we don’t want,” explains Hastings.
Dr. Hastings says heavy rain and runoff could turn the already 145-mile-long bloom that stretches more than 10 miles out into the Gulf into an even bigger algae bloom.
“If there are a lot of nutrients released into the water from the heavy rain, it would be a bad thing and it doesn’t matter how close the storm is. I think it’s a likely possibility,” says Hastings.
With millions of dollars going towards research, Dr. Hastings says it’s time money went to better regulation.
“Eight to 10 years ago, our water management districts were excellent, were better at monitoring, but in the last eight to 10 years, we’ve seen a decrease in monitoring and a decrease in concern for the nutrients going into the ocean,” says Hastings.
Kurt
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Red Tide has become a political issue but keep it to the facts or respectful debate.
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Lake View Too
Lake View TooSoWal InsiderEastern Lake7,000 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Good move. Sorry I succumbed
dcgozdcgozBeach Lover90 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
I assume the red tide is gone?
Kurt
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I assume the red tide is gone?Haven't noticed any. I don't think there is any official sampling going on.
steel1man
steel1manBeach Fanatic2,287 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Haven't noticed any. I don't think there is any official sampling going on.Some coughing in spots
Surfrider99
Surfrider99Beach CrabNashville3 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Crab
Lots of dead fish in Seagrove today. It’s definitely back.
steel1man
steel1manBeach Fanatic2,287 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
BMB dead fish and lots of coughing here and at Dune Allen.
justhavinfun
justhavinfunBeach FanaticEastern Lake378 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Same at the Eastern Lake access in Seagrove
Kurt
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Grayton, WaterColor, Seagrove, WaterSound very light yesterday. A little more noticeable in Blue Mountain Beach. I was on walkovers so not on the beach to see if there were any dead fish. There are a lot of people on the beaches in town on Fall Break.
dcgozdcgozBeach Lover90 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
Yep, definitely present Saturday in Dune Allen. Not as bad as a few weeks ago, but some dead marine life and airborne irritants.
Kurt
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mputnalmputnalBeach Fanatic2,396 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Is the Bay in trouble? We have owned property here in Walton County either on the Bay or close to the Bay for about 17 years. Until this past week I have hardly ever seen a dead fish other than a catfish that someone tossed back. Last weekend I saw literally thousands of dead fish over about 100 feet of shoreline! The strong winds created waves of rolling churning dead fish. I tried to find out if anyone is testing the water for red tide or some other substance causing the massive fish kill. We contacted two organizations and neither was aware of red tide in Choctawhatchee Bay. We started researching red tide and found relatively small and somewhat isolated studies relating to the subject. We were shocked that there was not more information from State and Federal agencies. I contacted FWC and they said they would send someone out to take water samples but did not seem that alarmed. Most information states that red tide has been around for a very long time and is considered a natural occurring marine process. We decided to see if it was isolated by visiting other shorelines around the bay and dead fish was everywhere. I understand the consequences of an economy that depends on tourism to overstate the growing concern of red tide but this is ridiculous. I suggest that some of our money go to more research in the Choctawhatchee Bay if we want to protect this valuable ecosystem. Yes, this is an alarming post! Deal with it...
hippiechick
hippiechickBeach FanaticSeagrove Beach264 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Is the Bay in trouble? We have owned property here in Walton County either on the Bay or close to the Bay for about 17 years. Until this past week I have hardly ever seen a dead fish other than a catfish that someone tossed back. Last weekend I saw literally thousands of dead fish over about 100 feet of shoreline! The strong winds created waves of rolling churning dead fish. I tried to find out if anyone is testing the water for red tide or some other substance causing the massive fish kill. We contacted two organizations and neither was aware of red tide in Choctawhatchee Bay. We started researching red tide and found relatively small and somewhat isolated studies relating to the subject. We were shocked that there was not more information from State and Federal agencies. I contacted FWC and they said they would send someone out to take water samples but did not seem that alarmed. Most information states that red tide has been around for a very long time and is considered a natural occurring marine process. We decided to see if it was isolated by visiting other shorelines around the bay and dead fish was everywhere. I understand the consequences of an economy that depends on tourism to overstate the growing concern of red tide but this is ridiculous. I suggest that some of our money go to more research in the Choctawhatchee Bay if we want to protect this valuable ecosystem. Yes, this is an alarming post! Deal with it...Red Tide has been in the area for a while. There is no way to make it go away. Testing the water will do nothing. It is Not an alarming situation but a natural occurring one. There is plenty of information on line about Red Tide. It is always a good idea to be informed.
mputnalmputnalBeach Fanatic2,396 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Red Tide has been around a long time. Agreed. In your expert opinion would you say that it is a natural occurrence in the Choctawhatchee Bay? I am all for keeping things on the down low to prevent overreaction but this is pretty bad. We picked up two tractor loads (front end loader bucket) along the shoreline of dead fish and hardly made a dent. The wave action on a natural shoreline will cover the dead fish with sand and the rest just sink to the bottom like oil and corexit (out of site out of mind). In our area we have low salinity because of the fresh water creeks and rivers and Karenia Brevis is not supposed to tolerate low salinity. Testing the water is important but just like you say it does nothing other than maybe predicting the next fish kill. FWC will test and let me know if it is red tide and that will be that. This may be natural but it is not normal at least in my 17 years of living and working next to the bay. The FWC website says if a fish is skinned and filleted it is okay to eat because the toxins accumulate in the guts. Should we be concerned? I think we should. Should we be alarmed. All I can say is that I hope the experts are expertly informed.
Jimmy T
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The weird thing about the bay fish kill was no respiratory irritation like we have been having at the beach with the red tide. Some of us are wondering if something else is going on. Low oxygen levels was one guess. It would be nice to know what the problem really is.
James BentwoodJames BentwoodBeach Fanatic1,614 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
We have had large red tide kills in the bay a few times in the past 20 years
mputnalmputnalBeach Fanatic2,396 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
While cleaning up the dead fish I had no allergy/asthma like symptoms but my wife did even with a mask. Maybe we will soon find out by testing the water but I am not fully convinced it is Karenia Brevis because of our low salinity. Low Oxygen levels would cause major fish kills like this but what is behind low Oxygen levels? I know the military is testing sonic waves as they have stated that it could affect GPS. Something is going on and I feel like it ain't exactly mother nature doing it's thing.
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