Walton County Fishing Pier Survey

LVT, the Nascar is just not a worthy argument. That said I give you the argument about what you consider an eyesore in your community (your domain). My question to you is why is a fishing pier an eyesore and every building along the beach not? I am really trying to understand the local opposition. Is there a social reason or an economic reason why you don't want a fishing pier?

FBB, I'm pretty sure the commissioners don't want a fishing pier. I think the survey was a request by a tax payer. It seems your argument is a valid economic argument. Who would pay for a fishing pier in Walton County. Why not BP and those Triumph funds? I follow all the applications and it is quite amazing what all is being considered. My grandmother taught me that if there is a "will" there is a "way". If the fishing pier brings in people who buy stuff you know like tourist would you consider it or do you want the County or State to collect fees for the use of it like a toll for using a road or a bridge.

Wow, so you are going to act stupid about the NASCAR Analogy: Why is your opinion of what you think should be built in our community be relevant? Should I be able to get that NASCAR speedway I want built put in your backyard? It’s neither financial nor social ( do you think I don’t have friends who are rednecks and fishermen?) it’s because we have a very uncluttered Beach which is being developed at a ruthless rate. Can we, at least, look southward and not see a big chunk of concrete ruining the last little piece of our serenity.

I am not in favor of a gulf fishing pier for a number of reasons. I prefer the natural beauty of the gulf coast as it is without any man made intrusions. Same thing with our state parks and forests. We can enjoy them as-is. I am an outdoorsman, and love to fish and hunt. I pick up trash off of my local beach access almost every day. Lets do something to help protect and enhance the natural environment we all enjoy instead of doing yet another thing to exploit it. Lets pick up trash, improve gulf water quality, enhance our fisheries and forests instead of building a pier.

Bob Wells I agree with you about there is a lot of infrastructure that needs upgrading first. But why do you think we keep building houses, entire subdivisions, multi-story homes on the beach, commercial buildings before we build the infrastructure for these things? You speak with common sense but the reality is that it does not work that way. If it did I would vote for the infrastructure (roads, sewage, beach access and storm water run off) before a fishing pier. It just seems in your part of the county there is an economic driving force that trumps the infrastructure. Those people who would benefit from a fishing pier are not causing these problems with lack of infrastructure and unbalanced growth. They simply want an opportunity to fish in offshore gulf waters. Why can't we find a way to give them this opportunity?

It is still important to look at other things first. This one still does not make it to the top.

Well I pay taxes in this county does that give me a right to an opinion? Do you really want a NASCAR speedway in my community? Why did you use NASCAR for your analogy? Do you have a prejudice against people who like NASCAR. It seems you and I always take the low road. Lets start over. If you have redneck fishermen friends why not ask them what they think and let me know. Have you been to the Pier at Pier Park? If not, please go and let me know your experience. I do believe in community rights so I agree with you that your opinions are more valid than mine for your community. I just don't see how a fishing pier will ruin your community any more than those concrete structures that are still being built in your community that completely blocks the view of our beautiful Gulf. For example when I have friends over (some of them just might be considered a redneck) I take them over to scenic hwy 98 where there are no buildings blocking the views and I always take them to the Pier at Pier park to see what people are catching. We don't fish at the pier but we enjoy watching those that do. They seem to smile a lot when they catch a fish. It is clean fun. It would just be nice if you and others would reconsider but you are right about the fact that it should be your call before mine...

I am surprised that a fellow outdoorsman would not see the importance of connecting under privileged people with the gulf through the decent sport of offshore fishing on an easily accessible fishing pier. As someone mentioned maybe I am just stupid.

Miramar Beach has the inner structure for a peer, parking and the ability to expand parking. All of South Walton is not just 30A. The election roles will show that the majority of year-round voters live on the west end of South Walton.

As far as swimming around fishing hooks people need to open your eyes and see how many people surf fishing in areas are where there are swimmers. By having a fishing pier people will further out be swimmers normally are not. Furthermore, many pairs do have a minor charge to use the facility to keep as some of the call called riffraff off the property.

Greaton Beach would also be another excellent opportunity since they already have a facility where you can launch your boat into the Gulf of Mexico.

You just gots to clean up that spelling, dude. Drunk text much?

Miramar Beach has the inner structure for a peer, parking and the ability to expand parking. All of South Walton is not just 30A. The election roles will show that the majority of year-round voters live on the west end of South Walton.

As far as swimming around fishing hooks people need to open your eyes and see how many people surf fishing in areas are where there are swimmers. By having a fishing pier people will further out be swimmers normally are not. Furthermore, many pairs do have a minor charge to use the facility to keep as some of the call called riffraff off the property.

Greaton Beach would also be another excellent opportunity since they already have a facility where you can launch your boat into the Gulf of Mexico.

Mr Magee,
Where is the parking?

As someone mentioned maybe I am just stupid.

Living in Tallahassee will do that to you

I agree about living in an area where government for the wealthy is alive and well Got to move down here where all the smart people live! Just kidding about Tally which is a pretty nice place actually but I love it back this way a lot more. Want to retire over here so I can be as smart ___ as you

I agree about living in an area where government for the wealthy is alive and well Got to move down here where all the smart people live! Just kidding about Tally which is a pretty nice place actually but I love it back this way a lot more. Want to retire over here so I can be as smart ___ as you

Be careful what you wish for. Once you get here some of the current residents will enlist your help in pulling up the drawbridge.

Mr Magee,
Where is the parking?

There is ample parking in Miramar Beach were Poppa Joe’s restaurant. There is also additional parking across the street provided by the county. That property could be increased to a 2 or 3 story parking garage. Specialized parking for the pier creating a tram to carry equipment to the pier.

As you travel throughout Florida and you visit whether it be beaches or other resort areas the city and Counties have established parking fees. This is to encourage people to use the trolleys in the area to decrease the concentration of trap.

Furthermore, north of the area I’m talking about there is some vacant land that could be purchased also for high-rise parking garage would not interfere with any of the infrastructure currently in place.

When there is a will there is a way with proper planning.

Poppaj, I appreciate your feedback on this subject. I may not always agree with you but I respect you. Do you know the area that Mr. Magee is talking about? I was thinking that Topsail would offer an already existing infrastructure and it is less congested. I believe that a fishing pier could be built that would not be an eyesore. What are your thoughts?

I agree about living in an area where government for the wealthy is alive and well Got to move down here where all the smart people live! Just kidding about Tally which is a pretty nice place actually but I love it back this way a lot more. Want to retire over here so I can be as smart ___ as you

Between the government fools and the FSU doofuses it's a wonder you can cross the street.

There is ample parking in Miramar Beach were Poppa Joe’s restaurant. There is also additional parking across the street provided by the county. That property could be increased to a 2 or 3 story parking garage. Specialized parking for the pier creating a tram to carry equipment to the pier.

As you travel throughout Florida and you visit whether it be beaches or other resort areas the city and Counties have established parking fees. This is to encourage people to use the trolleys in the area to decrease the concentration of trap.

Furthermore, north of the area I’m talking about there is some vacant land that could be purchased also for high-rise parking garage would not interfere with any of the infrastructure currently in place.

When there is a will there is a way with proper planning.

Pompano Joe's ...

There is a proposal in place for all of SoWal (or maybe just along 30A) to charge for day/weekend/week parking passes for tourists and annual passes for residents.

South Walton offers its own unique beauty and resources. Why not focus on these. We have a great fishing spot on the bay under the new bridge park.

Why not expand access to our bay and coastal dune lakes with more eco adventure with kayaks and SUP.

We are not PCB.

Plus we need to focus on the private beach problem and pursue customary use. Again.

Mr Magee
What you say is possible, but all of it cost money that could be used to improve other things.

There is ample parking in Miramar Beach were Poppa Joe’s restaurant. There is also additional parking across the street provided by the county. That property could be increased to a 2 or 3 story parking garage. Specialized parking for the pier creating a tram to carry equipment to the pier.

As you travel throughout Florida and you visit whether it be beaches or other resort areas the city and Counties have established parking fees. This is to encourage people to use the trolleys in the area to decrease the concentration of trap.

Furthermore, north of the area I’m talking about there is some vacant land that could be purchased also for high-rise parking garage would not interfere with any of the infrastructure currently in place.

Teresa, I am going to try and rephrase my words so as to not get blocked but my post to you earlier was more of a plea for you to reconsider than a troll. It apparently got blocked anyway so I will try again. You and Kurt have a lot of influence in the community. Trust me the 331 pier is nothing like fishing offshore in the Gulf. Are there any reasonable circumstances that you would support a fishing pier and do you see any merit in my argument for a fishing pier?

South Walton offers its own unique beauty and resources. Why not focus on those. We have a great fishing spot on the bay under the new bridge park.

Why not expand access to our bay and coastal dune lakes with more eco adventure with kayaks and SUP.

We are not PCB.

Plus we need to focus on the private beach problem and pursue customary use. Again.

I think the other elephant in the room we need to focus on is gulf, bay, and dune lake water quality. Our fisheries, nature, and economy depends on it.

Poppaj, I appreciate your feedback on this subject. I may not always agree with you but I respect you. Do you know the area that Mr. Magee is talking about? I was thinking that Topsail would offer an already existing infrastructure and it is less congested. I believe that a fishing pier could be built that would not be an eyesore. What are your thoughts?

I think a pier would be nice addition to the area. I can imagine myself using it. I'm not giving a knee-jerk yes to it. I realize many things would need to be studied before it would become a reality and those same studies may find it isn't feasible. We can make the argument of "money better spent" on any proposed development. It's been over two years and I'm still waiting for the failed seawall down the street at Legion Park to be repaired.

Poppaj, Thank you! I believe it is still possible that people can come together as a community to move projects along. It just needs to be done with a sense of civility and purpose. Civility is listening and respecting. Purpose is humanity. I agree with you that there are some projects should have priority over a fishing pier such as that seawall at Legion Park. I do believe a fishing pier would be greatly utilized by the entire community. I believe it would be money well spent if it can be determined to be feasible. I have been to beach communities on the East Coast and West Coast that have fishing piers and people always seem to be happy and smiling and many are taking pictures.

On another note it seems that customary use is about to take center stage again. It is possible that this new lawsuit changes our beach rights. I understand both sides. I lean toward customary use but a few misbehaving people seem to muck it up for all those that behave properly and respectfully. More people plus less beach (sea level rise) was a predictable situation. It would be nice to have a public fishing pier just in case it gets a little harder to find a public beach.

Fishing piers in Walton County have never fared well in the past (Crystal Beach,Camp Helen) what makes anyone think another one will be THE one to make it? They DO make for good snorkeling sites 20-30 years down the road, though.

Holy cow! Camp Helen pier! That was a looong ago. Different times.

Fishing piers in Walton County have never fared well in the past (Crystal Beach,Camp Helen) what makes anyone think another one will be THE one to make it? They DO make for good snorkeling sites 20-30 years down the road, though.

Putnal will get a confederate flag installed on it and hurricanes originating in Africa will not dare to come near.

Hello Jensky old buddy! You are very imaginative and funny and I give you credit for that. Lets move on from the past. There ain't much good back there in terms of civility on both our parts so lets just let that go and move onward. What are your thoughts on a fishing pier in Walton County?