Online Classes - Virtual School

[kurt]

University of Florida News - Online classes can save schools money, expand learning time for K-12 students

New research at the University of Florida predicts more public school students in kindergarten through 12th grade will take classes online, have longer school days and more of them in the next decade. Academic performance should improve and schools could save money. While distance education over the Internet is already widespread at colleges and universities, UF educational technology researchers are offering some of the first hard evidence documenting the potential cost-savings of virtual schooling in K-12 schools.
“Policymakers and educators have proposed expanding learning time in elementary through high school grades as a way to improve students’ academic performance, but online coursework hasn’t been on their radar. This should change as we make school and school district leaders more aware of the potential cost savings that virtual schooling offers,” said Catherine Cavanaugh, associate professor at the University of Florida’s College of Education. “Over the next decade, we expect an explosion in the use of virtual schooling as a seamless synthesis between the traditional classroom and online learning.”
UF researchers considered several key factors to calculate and compare the cost of full-time online learning with regular schools. Cavanaugh reported their findings today at an education reform conference and national podcast sponsored by the Washington D.C.-based Center for American Progress. A monograph of her report will be posted on the center’s Web site at Events.
Based on a 2008 survey of 20 virtual schools in 14 states, UF researchers found that the average yearly cost of online learning per full-time pupil was about $4,300. This compared with a national average cost per pupil of more than $9,100 for a traditional public school in 2006 (the most recent year in which such data was available). Their cost estimates covered course development and teaching, and administrative and technical expenses.
“Online programs have little or no cost for instructional facilities, transportation and related staff,” Cavanaugh said. “The value of distance education also increases when considering the broad range of available online courses.”
She said investing in virtual education could allow schools to provide instruction before, during and after school — in essence, lengthening the school day and school year — without sinking millions of dollars into new buildings, additional personnel, professional development and other operating costs. Such school reform measures may not be popular with the kids, but America’s education system is falling behind our competitors abroad. Simply put, students in other developed nations are spending more time in school and learning more than our kids do.
“Time is one of the most valuable resources for learning. Even a few days’ difference in learning time can determine whether a school makes adequate yearly progress,” Cavanaugh said.
In her report, Cavanaugh describes various scenarios whereby school days begin early and end late, with students attending traditional classes on designated weekdays and learning online in a flexibly scheduled computer lab on other days. The longer school day allows time for club and enrichment activities and recreation or athletics for a healthier school experience. The boundaries of time and place are removed through Internet-connected mobile devices such as netbooks and smart phones, letting students access online courses while traveling between home, school, work and athletic events. Most homework is done at school under direct teacher supervision or with after-school online coaching.
With two decades of studies supporting the effectiveness of K-12 virtual schools, researchers are moving beyond the question of whether virtual schooling works as well as face-to-face instruction, focusing instead on when and how distance education works best. Partnerships between school districts and state-run virtual schools — including Florida Virtual School, the nation’s largest virtual school, based in Orlando — are expected to play a major role in the emergence of K-12 distance education.
“Virtual schooling and online learning fit in extremely well with the emerging trend to embrace the same technologies that our young people are using in their everyday lives and apply them in education,” Cavanaugh said. “Schools that don’t embrace online learning soon will be viewed as limiting the learning opportunities of their students.”
The better K-12 online programs, she said, will have experienced online teachers and coaches and on-site facilitators, with tailored lesson plans to suit the learning levels and pace of all students.
“Dr. Cavanaugh’s report provides a vision of what schools could look like in the near future, as online courses and programs are developed that not only expand learning time but help educate students with a wide range of academic and learning needs,” said Susan Lowes, director of research and evaluation at the Institute for Learning Technologies at Teachers College, Columbia University.

[Beach Runner]

Have they forgotten the social aspects of public education, that is, children learning how to get along with others? That's more important than learning, say, history in my opinion. How are kids going to get social skills online?

[Jdarg]

Online school is a great supplement - especially if there are classes the student wants to take but it is not offered at the school. Will took Latin I, and will take Latin II next year, satisfying his language requirement for graduation, and taking a language HE wanted to take. His Florida Virtual School Latin teacher worked his tail off- and he learned some organizational and time management skills that he had not learned at school.

[kurt]

From what I am hearing, there is a movement toward using online classes as a backbone, with lots of programs, research projects, visiting lecturers, travel, etc. rounding out the education. Also if you read the article it mentions small collective groups of students with a facilitator. There is at least one group like this forming in SoWal.

If you do not learn history, you are doomed to repeat it. More and more every day, history ignored is causing us misery.

Have a good one!

[scooterbug44]

I can see the advantage of a high school kid being able to take a specialized class online, but kindergartners having most of their class/teaching done that way is a big mistake IMO!

Increased ADD and TV/internet addiction aside, how does a "virtual" teacher keep discipline?

[Beach Runner]

Online school is a great supplement - especially if there are classes the student wants to take but it is not offered at the school. Will took Latin I, and will take Latin II next year, satisfying his language requirement for graduation, and taking a language HE wanted to take. His Florida Virtual School Latin teacher worked his tail off- and he learned some organizational and time management skills that he had not learned at school.

I do see the advantage of online ed as a supplement. That's not a problem we had to face because anything daughter needed that wasn't offered at her school was available at the college where I teach, at no additional cost. She took 28 semester hours of college courses as an 11th and 12th grader -- computer science, calculus, and physics.

From what I am hearing, there is a movement toward using online classes as a backbone, with lots of programs, research projects, visiting lecturers, travel, etc. rounding out the education. Also if you read the article it mentions small collective groups of students with a facilitator. There is at least one group like this forming in SoWal.

If you do not learn history, you are doomed to repeat it. More and more every day, history ignored is causing us misery.

Have a good one!

I'm not saying that history isn't important. I'm just saying that social skills are more important than any discipline (except math and computer science ).

I wonder how many hours per week they'd work in groups?

[GoodWitch58]

Online school is a great supplement - especially if there are classes the student wants to take but it is not offered at the school. Will took Latin I, and will take Latin II next year, satisfying his language requirement for graduation, and taking a language HE wanted to take. His Florida Virtual School Latin teacher worked his tail off- and he learned some organizational and time management skills that he had not learned at school.

Congrats to Will for taking Latin. I had four years of it in HS and it was the best subject I ever took! I think it should be required for any student who is planning to attend college--especially if they are following a Liberal Arts track!

More than anything else, Latin gave me the foundation for learning critical thinking skills and helped immensely in learning other languages.

I agree that online education is great as a supplement to regular school. I think that more and more we will utilizing a variety of means to educate ourselves and certainly online will be at the front of the list.

[SWGB]

Online school is a great supplement - especially if there are classes the student wants to take but it is not offered at the school. Will took Latin I, and will take Latin II next year, satisfying his language requirement for graduation, and taking a language HE wanted to take. His Florida Virtual School Latin teacher worked his tail off- and he learned some organizational and time management skills that he had not learned at school.

So Lawyer or Doctor?

[Beach Runner]

Hey, SWGB, don't pressure the kid.We made the mistake of allowing ourselves and others to make daughter feel pressured to do what she was brilliant enough to do, not what she wanted to do. She finally told us last summer what she has always wanted to do -- to major in art. She's now the happiest that we've seen her since she was a child.

On a different subject, one of our faculty members planned a pregnancy so that the baby would be born right after classes were over so she could stay home three months with the baby. Only problem -- the baby came 4 weeks early. She's in my situation -- no one on campus can substitute for her because no one knows what she knows. In her case, she has an MBA and a law degree. She has a 90-minute commute each way, plus both day and night classes. Our college is a very warm-and-fuzzy place, and our selling point is our low faculty/teacher ratio with students having lots to access to their professors (no TA's). However, the Dean allowed her to teach her classes remotely. They used cheap webcams with Skype (free software). It has worked awesomely! She sees the students, and the students see her on a projector, so everything is realtime.

[Miss Kitty]

Hey, don't pressure the kid.We made the mistake of allowing ourselves and others to make daughter feel pressured to do what she was brilliant enough to do, not what she wanted to do. She finally told us last summer what she has always wanted to do -- to major in art. She's now the happiest that we've seen her since she was a child.

Ahhhhh...the art of letting go is a wonderful thing, and sometimes the hardest lesson!

[SWGB]

Hey, SWGB, don't pressure the kid.We made the mistake of allowing ourselves and others to make daughter feel pressured to do what she was brilliant enough to do, not what she wanted to do. She finally told us last summer what she has always wanted to do -- to major in art. She's now the happiest that we've seen her since she was a child.

Oh it was a joke. We had a Latin teacher at my high school and due to budget cuts they actually sent out a letter to parents asking that only students considering a medical or law career to sign up for Latin.

I'm pretty sure that my opinion has any bearing anyway. If he wants to get a Bachelors in Basket Weaving go for it kid. Be the best basket weaver you can be. I don't think that career choice would go over too well with his mother.