photos - Seaside, Grayton Beach, Seacrest Beach - 4/9/05

[kurt]

http://www.sowal.com/photos-040905.html


What a spectacular weekend in SoWal. The water is still very cold, only the kids are enjoying it. The water has been very muddy for over a week or so from all the storms and wave action. Surf has been up and high winds nearly every day for the last few days after the fronts moved through last week. Every coastal dune lake with an outflow to the Gulf is open from the heavy rains.

A lot of Spring breakers here, especially from Georgia. Quite a few Redfish being caught off the beach.

[GraytonBound]

Thanks Kurt

The flowers at the post office are beautiful

[kurt]

You're welcome.

[Wu]

[RiverOtter]

Yup, finally getting closer to to the wrap up on my house

[BeachDreamer]

Gorgeous shots, Kurt! I love one taken from underneath the Seaside beach walkover tower. The colors are amazing.

[kurt]

Thanks! I figure that tower is a monument to Robert Davis. Or, maybe "symbol" would be a more proper term. Hmmmm.

[Smiling JOe]

Yup, finally getting closer to to the wrap up on my house

I didn't know your name is Charlie.

[Sea Star]

Which Hilton does the house belong to? I hope not Paris! Gorgeous photos Kurt! Thanks.

[kurt]

Which Hilton does the house belong to? I hope not Paris! Gorgeous photos Kurt! Thanks.

Thanks - Charlie Hilton is a concrete man. Rumor has it that he is building a spaceship for Michael Jackson to return to the mother planet.

[GraytonBound]

[RiverOtter]

I didn't know your name is Charlie.

Just call me Chuck

[Sea Star]

Too bad. He doesn't have the money now to pay for it.

[seagrovelover]

Hey Kurt, we have been watching that house go up for the past couple of years.....my kids always make us go to Seacrest to see the progress. Do you know who is building that home and what it is exactly? kelly

[seagrovelover]

oops.....sorry didnt see the Hilton info :oops:

[kathydwells]

http://www.sowal.com/photos-040905.html


What a spectacular weekend in SoWal. The water is still very cold, only the kids are enjoying it. The water has been very muddy for over a week or so from all the storms and wave action. Surf has been up and high winds nearly every day for the last few days after the fronts moved through last week. Every coastal dune lake with an outflow to the Gulf is open from the heavy rains.

A lot of Spring breakers here, especially from Georgia. Quite a few Redfish being caught off the beach.

The Hilton home...as in the "Paris" Hiltons????

[kathydwells]

The Hilton home...as in the "Paris" Hiltons????

OOPPSS....me too. Guess I should read all the posts first, before asking question.:oops:

[kurt]

There have been rumors that it was being built for Michael Jordan. I guess it could be for anyone, including Charlie Hilton.

[Smiling JOe]

Who here thinks the value of Charlie's home is in the land itself?

[kurt]

6 lots = $12 million

construction = $8 million

furnishings = $2 million

Just guesses.

[RiverOtter]

6 lots = $12 million

construction = $8 million

furnishings = $2 million

Just guesses.

I bet furnishings is more like $5,000,000

[kurt]

I bet furnishings is more like $5,000,000

Yeah that can only be a wild guess. You never know about people.

Another thought. I wonder how much the rent would be. $30,000/week in the Summer?

[RiverOtter]

Yeah that can only be a wild guess. You never know about people.

Another thought. I wonder how much the rent would be. $30,000/week in the Summer?

Hmmmm... That's about what Watercolor charges isn't it :laughing1

[Smiling JOe]

Yeah that can only be a wild guess. You never know about people.

Another thought. I wonder how much the rent would be. $30,000/week in the Summer?

How about $30,000 per day, and rent it out for banquet facilities? I wonder if he will have a ballroom.

Heck, he could probably charge $50per person for guided tours. He could also decorate for special holiday themes and upcharge. However, he would need to pick up some additional lots for parking. I guess that wouldn't work, eh?

[beachmouse]

Provided they ever actually finish the beast. It's been under construction since we moved down here, and that was 1998.

[kurt]

Provided they ever actually finish the beast. It's been under construction since we moved down here, and that was 1998.

True, true. Slow and steady. I'm guessing there was a bit of a reality gap between the design and the execution.

[Beach Girl]

Thanks for the pictures Kurt. Hmmm...I hope the water won't still be muddy the last week of April. That is when my husband and I are traveling to Seagrove. Can't wait! We haven't been since December so we are having major withdrawls!!

[kurt]

Thanks for the pictures Kurt. Hmmm...I hope the water won't still be muddy the last week of April. That is when my husband and I are traveling to Seagrove. Can't wait! We haven't been since December so we are having major withdrawls!!

You're welcome. Let's say it will be perfect when you get here.

[Beach Girl]

You're welcome. Let's say it will be perfect when you get here.

Thanks, Kurt....I'll hold you to that!

[Smiling JOe]

Charlie's front porch



Charlie's place, from the driveway



Updated photo of WaterSound's entrance

[JB]

Who here thinks the value of Charlie's home is in the land itself?

In most cases, you would be right. But that house has to be a minimun of 10,000 square feet. In this case, I am gussing the lot is worth around $3-4 million, and the home probably in excess of 10 million. Comparatively speaking, our little fractional at Blue Mountain has around $80,000 structural and a $1.5-million land value.

[Smiling JOe]

In most cases, you would be right. But that house has to be a minimun of 10,000 square feet. In this case, I am gussing the lot is worth around $3-4 million, and the home probably in excess of 10 million. Comparatively speaking, our little fractional at Blue Mountain has around $80,000 structural and a $1.5-million land value.

JB, have you been drinking again? The house sits on 4 Gulf-Front lots in an upscale subdivision with Gulf-front lots priced around 4 million each, when available. Even if they were only $3Million each, that still totals to $12 Million.


By the way, has anyone ever noticed that each of the 4 lions, guarding the entrance to Paradise by the Sea, is missing a leg? Does anyone have 4 extra lion legs stashed at their beach house?

[RiverOtter]

JB, have you been drinking again? The house sits on 4 Gulf-Front lots in an upscale subdivision with Gulf-front lots priced around 4 million each, when available. Even if they were only $3Million each, that still totals to $12 Million.


By the way, has anyone ever noticed that each of the 4 lions, guarding the entrance to Paradise by the Sea, is missing a leg? Does anyone have 4 extra lion legs stashed at their beach house?

We noticed that while biking through there last year

[JB]

JB, have you been drinking again? The house sits on 4 Gulf-Front lots in an upscale subdivision with Gulf-front lots priced around 4 million each, when available. Even if they were only $3Million each, that still totals to $12 Million.

Wow. That was certainly a polite reply. I have no idea how many lots it sits on, Joe. I have only seen the house from 30-A. Hard to tell size from that distance. My point was - and I think it's a valid one, that as a rule, land values normally surpass structural values for gulf-front lots. I guess I should apologize for getting into your area of expertise.

[Smiling JOe]

Wow. That was certainly a polite reply. I have no idea how many lots it sits on, Joe. I have only seen the house from 30-A. Hard to tell size from that distance. My point was - and I think it's a valid one, that as a rule, land values normally surpass structural values for gulf-front lots. I guess I should apologize for getting into your area of expertise.

I'm just giving you a hard time. Thanks for handling it so well

[CampCreekLou]

Charlie Hilton:

"My goal is to build a massive, ugly, concrete structure for all to see that will far outlive me."

I think he's succeeded!

C.

[kurt]

Charlie Hilton:

"My goal is to build a massive, ugly, concrete structure for all to see that will far outlive me."

I think he's succeeded!

C.

Do I detect sarcasm from Lou who does not like the building?

[Smiling JOe]

If grading only on creativity, Charlie gets five stars. I guess he grew tired of seeing the same rectangular boxes being built over and over again. I don't think he has any right angles in that structure.

[RiverOtter]

If grading only on creativity, Charlie gets five stars. I guess he grew tired of seeing the same rectangular boxes being built over and over again. I don't think he has any right angles in that structure.

We like the house next door much better. I heard that it was Michael Jordan's but I doubt it. I've yet to hear anybody say "Hey, just ran into Michael Jordan walking down the beach"

[Smiling JOe]

There is a better chance that it is Brittany Spears' than Jordan's, but it is not hers either.

[Beach Girl]

We will be in Seagrove next week. How exactly do we see this weird place??

[kurt]

Head toward Rosemary Beach. When you get to Alys Beach, look right.

[Smiling JOe]

Head toward Rosemary Beach. When you get to Alys Beach, look right.

Yes, before Alys Beach cleared 100ft back from each side of the road, the house was more difficult to see. Now it stands out. Another 2 years and you won't see it at all. Alys Beach owns the property b/tw 30-A and CH's house. Take pictures, because it won't be a clear shot for long.

[Beach Girl]

Great thanks. We've been by Rosemary Beach several times, but I've never heard of Alys Beach. Guess we'll find out in less than a week. Can't Wait!!!!!!