Help: Seacrest House, but Panama City Beach Zip?#@?

[hnooe]

I love my brand new house in Seacrest Beach on 30A, but why do I have to have a PC Beach zip code? If I wanted a PC Beach address I would have moved there!!!

Also, why does the U.S mail recognize that my Seacrest address in zip 32413, but UPS and Fed Ex (for my at home business) won't permit it--they say it is PC Beach?

Help!!!!!!!!!

[seacrestkristi]

That's where the mail is delivered from or if you had to pick up something, it's in PCB.

[kurt]

You get the zip of the post office branch that serves you. Your delivery route originates at a location in the 32413 zip area.

I'm not sure how UPS and FedEx carve their space. If you have to have an SRB zip then you can rent a box at Mailboxes etc. in Seagrove or UPS store at WaterColor Crossing.

[ShallowsNole]

If somebody can convince the post office to give the eastern end of SoWal their own zip code - for example, 32461, which is the Rosemary Beach PO, would be a good one - I will be forever grateful. Or at least until I retire.

Seriously, they finally did it for Destin / Miramar Beach...32550 means you are in Walton County.

[RiverOtter]

LOL! Don't get hung up on it. Before High Pointe was ever built, I got a brochure and totally blew it off becase of the PCB address. Could have had a 4th floor gulf front 3 bd unit for $350,000

[Biff]

LOL! Don't get hung up on it. Before High Pointe was ever built, I got a brochure and totally blew it off becase of the PCB address. Could have had a 4th floor gulf front 3 bd unit for $350,000

[scooterbug44]

I love my brand new house in Seacrest Beach on 30A, but why do I have to have a PC Beach zip code? If I wanted a PC Beach address I would have moved there!!!

Also, why does the U.S mail recognize that my Seacrest address in zip 32413, but UPS and Fed Ex (for my at home business) won't permit it--they say it is PC Beach?

Help!!!!!!!!!

The mail system is so screwed up here! I've sent mail faster between continents than between Sandestin and Santa Rosa Beach or Seagrove and Rosemary Beach. Easiest solution is to get a mailbox at the Seagrove Mailboxes etc if the zip code is really important to you. I think it's $12 a month for a box.

[Smiling JOe]

You don't know how big of a deal the zip code problem is for that end of 30A. It is much bigger than a mailing issue. It also affects home sales and showings. If a property is listed in the MLS with its correct mailing address on that end of the beach, it has the PCB zip code. When people looking for property on the east end of 30A go to a site like Realtor.com and search by zipcode for Santa Rosa Beach (32459), those listings with the PCB zip code will not show up. One would have to search for PCB properties to locate those east end properties. One way to bypass this is to list the property using the real address (like UPS uses), however, the geo mapping software is not a lat/lon based program, so the mapping shows up all messed up on those same sites like Realtor.com. I've been working the MLS Committee to try and find a new and better way of solving this major problem, but thus far, we have only answers that are not readily implementable. The easy answer is using a lat/lon map, like Google Earth, but the vendor that ECAR uses for the MLS doesn't have that ability, YET. It is something that I am pushing for so that these properties on the east end can be easily searched without having to know the intricacies of searching.

[Camp Creek Kid]

S.J.,

It gets even more complicated than that. We just got a vehicle registration renewal notice from Bay County. We have never had this vehicle registered in Bay County, but whatever database the state uses thinks we're in Bay County because of our zip code. One year our mortgage company paid all of our property taxes to Bay County instead of Walton County. It is a big problem. I also had to ask our realtor to list a house we sold as "Seacrest Beach" instead of "Panama City Beach" as she was going to do orignially.

I've started using 'Seacrest Beach" on all my addresses so we can be distinguished from PCB. Luckily the mailman on this end, Fred, knows everybody so there aren't usually any problems. As long as you have the right zip code, its fine.

Hank, you're going to have problems with UPS and FedEx because their boundaries are different than the post office. Zip code 32413 extends to Deer Lake. The PCB Boundaries of FedEX and UPS go to Camp Creek Lake with the Destin/Ft. Walton boundaries extending to the west side of the lake. You are in no man's land. You will have to work it out with them until the route drivers get to know you. Watersound has a post office and its own zip code. Maybe you could rent a P.O. box there?

[Lady D]

Well, the place we rent is in Inlet Beach and has a Seagrove phone exchange and a PC Beach zip code of 32413. Any phone calls to PC Beach are considered long distance, I would imagine Seagrove calls would not be but who knows.

[Smiling JOe]

wow. As an FYI- I see many variations of the addresses within a neighborhood in the MLS. For example,

555 Zippy Ln
Seacrest Beach, FL 32459

556 Zippy Ln
Seacrest Beach, FL 32413

557 Zippy Ln
Panama City Beach, FL 32413

558 Zippy Ln
Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459

559 Zippy Ln
Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32413

If the zipcode is still the Panama City Beach zip (32413), in the searches on Realtor.com and other sites, the listings will come up only in the search for that PCB zipcode.

[Smiling JOe]

Well, the place we rent is in Inlet Beach and has a Seagrove phone exchange and a PC Beach zip code of 32413. Any phone calls to PC Beach are considered long distance, I would imagine Seagrove calls would not be but who knows.

Growing up on the State Line between two different Time Zones, living in one, and going to school in the other, it was a little confusing. Yes, I used both time zones, depending on which state I was in at any given time. To make that more confusing, some people living in the Eastern Zone, used Central Time, so anytime someone mentioned time, it was always followed with the correct Time Zone, for clarification.

Our telephone was on the other states system, and calling our closest neighbor, who was on a different phone system, was long distance.

The big difference here is that multi-million dollar home sales are being affected by this craziness of the PCB zip debacle.

[Camp Creek Kid]

wow. As an FYI- I see many variations of the addresses within a neighborhood in the MLS. For example,

555 Zippy Ln
Seacrest Beach, FL 32459

556 Zippy Ln
Seacrest Beach, FL 32413

557 Zippy Ln
Panama City Beach, FL 32413

558 Zippy Ln
Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459

559 Zippy Ln
Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32413

If the zipcode is still the Panama City Beach zip (32413), in the searches on Realtor.com and other sites, the listings will come up only in the search for that PCB zipcode.

On http://www.emeraldcoasthomesonline.com, you can search by area (South Walton East) and it will bring up homes with both zip codes, but I'm sure you know that.

[Smiling JOe]

On http://www.emeraldcoasthomesonline.com, you can search by area (South Walton East) and it will bring up homes with both zip codes, but I'm sure you know that.

On Realtor.com, you can also search by city, which would pull it up by the city address, but if one searches by zip, it pulls up the zipcode listed. Yes, the public version of ECAR, you linked above, does have searches by area, but I don't think that most people are aware of the site, and tend to use the big search sites. Either way, there is no real answer to solve the problems of the system until they use a lat/lon mapping system like Google uses.

[30A Skunkape]

You can just do like I do and put 'PCB, FL'. For all anyone who actually gives a rip can tell, you live in Punta Caribe Bonita or some such. Or, you can put Seacrest Beach, FL 32413 and the mail will still come. Jeez, talk about redlining poor Panama City Beach!

[Beachbummett]

I've got you a better one....our new house at Watersound has a physical address of # Street name, Watersound, FL 32413 and we also have a P. O. Box there with P.O. Box &*&*&*& Watersound, FL 32461. My house is not two blocks from the post office and we have two different zip codes. Go figure.

Our other house is in Seagrove and we have always used the address plus Seagrove Beach, FL 32459 but it's actually Santa Rosa Beach, Fl 32459. Always gets the mail there. They use the same Seagrove Beach, Fl at One Seagrove Place.

Watersound also has P.O. boxes for the public to use, go by and ask for Kitty she is our post mistress and a sweetheart. I did have at one time a P.O. box in Seaside.....never again....try getting your mail during season!

[Smiling JOe]

Postal boxes usually have a different zipcode than the surrounding ones.

[Beachbummett]

Postal boxes usually have a different zipcode than the surrounding ones.

not in Alabama and mine at Seaside had the same zippy code.

[SHELLY]

Designer Zip Codes??



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[Lady D]

Growing up on the State Line between two different Time Zones, living in one, and going to school in the other, it was a little confusing. Yes, I used both time zones, depending on which state I was in at any given time. To make that more confusing, some people living in the Eastern Zone, used Central Time, so anytime someone mentioned time, it was always followed with the correct Time Zone, for clarification.

Our telephone was on the other states system, and calling our closest neighbor, who was on a different phone system, was long distance.

The big difference here is that multi-million dollar home sales are being affected by this craziness of the PCB zip debacle.

Yeah SJ, that is true.

[SHELLY]

The big difference here is that multi-million dollar home sales are being affected by this craziness of the PCB zip debacle.

So if the Florida Assn of Realtors can talk Sorry Charlie into getting the zip codes changed, Florida will find relief from its housing constipation.... Who knew?

Zip Code envy....how lame is that??


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[Smiling JOe]

So if the Florida Assn of Realtors can talk Sorry Charlie into getting the zip codes changed, Florida will find relief from its housing constipation.... Who knew?

Zip Code envy....how lame is that??


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not at all, but it is a glitch in the system, which has been frucked up for quite some time.

[SHELLY]

not at all, but it is a glitch in the system, which has been frucked up for quite some time.

You honestly mean to tell me that some prospective buyer of a multi-million dollar home said to you, "Jeez, you mean to tell me that this house has a Panama City Zip Code?? To hell with this house! Show me something with a more upscale zip code."

Sounds like a textbook case of recto-cranial inversion--was there an echo when he spoke?

The "glitch" isn't with the "system"....but you're right-on with the frucked-up part.


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[Smiling JOe]

You honestly mean to tell me that some prospective buyer of a multi-million dollar home said to you, "Jeez, you mean to tell me that this house has a Panama City Zip Code?? To hell with this house! Show me something with a more upscale zip code."

Sounds like a textbook case of recto-cranial inversion--was there an echo when he spoke?

The "glitch" isn't with the "system"....but you're right-on with the frucked-up part.


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Never said that. Go back and read my posts. I simply said that it is possible that many homes are not showing up under the search by zipcodes in this area, especially if they are listed with the correct mailing address zipcode. Usually, when someone buys a home on the east end of 30A, past Camp Creek, it is only after the purchase when they are upset that they have a PCB mailing address. One cannot brag about owning in SoWal when his or her friends see the PCB mailing address.

[SHELLY]

One cannot brag about owning in SoWal when his or her friends see the PCB mailing address.

Maybe that's God's way of showing them and their "impressionable friends" how incredibly shallow they all really are??

OH! The inhumanity of it all!


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[Miss Kitty]

Maybe that's God's way of showing them and their "impressionable friends" how incredibly shallow they all really are??

OH! The inhumanity of it all!


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SHELLY...it happens in cities and neighborhoods all over this great country of ours...why are you so surprised?

[Lady D]

wow. As an FYI- I see many variations of the addresses within a neighborhood in the MLS. For example,

555 Zippy Ln
Seacrest Beach, FL 32459

556 Zippy Ln
Seacrest Beach, FL 32413

557 Zippy Ln
Panama City Beach, FL 32413

558 Zippy Ln
Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459

559 Zippy Ln
Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32413

If the zipcode is still the Panama City Beach zip (32413), in the searches on Realtor.com and other sites, the listings will come up only in the search for that PCB zipcode.

This is kind of screwed up. Some showing Santa Rosa Beach with 32459, some saying Seacrest Beach with 32413, some showing Santa Rosa Beach with the PC Beach zip, 557 Zippy Ln with a PC Beach zip. What a mess. One thinks all of those homes on Zippy Ln would of course be under one zip code.

[Smiling JOe]

This is kind of screwed up....One thinks all of those homes on Zippy Ln would of course be under one zip code.

It all depends on which address/zip the agent thinks will score the most hits. Technically, all of the zips on the fictitious "Zippy Ln," would have only one mailing address (plus one delivery address for the Fed Ex and Ups peeps).

[TooFarTampa]

SHELLY...it happens in cities and neighborhoods all over this great country of ours...why are you so surprised?

Exactly ... ever heard of 90210?

[seacrestkristi]

You are now entering the twilight zone...

[Beach Runner]

You get the zip of the post office branch that serves you. Your delivery route originates at a location in the 32413 zip area.

I'm not sure how UPS and FedEx carve their space. If you have to have an SRB zip then you can rent a box at Mailboxes etc. in Seagrove or UPS store at WaterColor Crossing.

Thanks for explaining that. I always wondered why that part of 30-A was addressed as being in PCB.

UPS -- that's another story. Every time I have a UPS delivery in Seagrove, they see the Santa Rosa Beach zip code. So they literally go to Santa Rosa Beach, not Seagrove Beach, and can't find my house. So I end up driving down Highway 30-A to flag down the UPS truck in order to get my packages. At least they don't go to Santa Rosa County (another thing that's weird to me -- Santa Rosa Beach isn't in Santa Rosa County ).

[InletBchDweller]

I have had nightmares with this....
The Watersound post office and the Rosemary Beach post office mail originates in PCB.
I belive that the Rosemary Beach zip 32461 is the same as Sunnyside, Fl.

I have always put Inlet Beach, Fl. 32413 on my checks and everything else just so the delivery person knows it is in Walton coundy.THere is a street in Bay County on the beach with almost the same street name as mine in Walton County. Our mail has been messed up many times....

When using Fed Ex or UPS I always make sure that I have the sender put Walton County on the address somewhere...

Maybe one day we will be our own....

[SHELLY]

SHELLY...it happens in cities and neighborhoods all over this great country of ours...why are you so surprised?

I guess I shouldn't be....it's all part and parcel of the Prada-fication of the Panhandle. But, hey.....as long as they get their Property Tax notifications, I just don't see a problem.


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[Smiling JOe]

I have had nightmares with this....
The Watersound post office and the Rosemary Beach post office mail originates in PCB.
I belive that the Rosemary Beach zip 32461 is the same as Sunnyside, Fl.

I have always put Inlet Beach, Fl. 32413 on my checks and everything else just so the delivery person knows it is in Walton coundy.THere is a street in Bay County on the beach with almost the same street name as mine in Walton County. Our mail has been messed up many times....

When using Fed Ex or UPS I always make sure that I have the sender put Walton County on the address somewhere...

Maybe one day we will be our own....

You should check with Emergency Services to see how they would handle a 911 call from your address.

[InletBchDweller]

good thought...
It is not the SAME street name but similar...
Bay county~~ north lakeshore dr
Walton county~~ north walton lakeshore dr
you would think the postman could read....

You should check with Emergency Services to see how they would handle a 911 call from your address.

[rdelong43065]

You should check with Emergency Services to see how they would handle a 911 call from your address.

Anything with the PCB zip code will show it as a PCB address when you call 911. It is usually not a big deal as the address will come up on the map automatically as long as it is in Walton County. Same thing happens in the Miramar Beach areas. That is a 32550 Destin zip code. Even better is that Sandestin Resort is 32550 and right above is Driftwood Estates in 32459. Fun time for sure.

[SHELLY]

Anything with the PCB zip code will show it as a PCB address when you call 911. It is usually not a big deal as the address will come up on the map automatically as long as it is in Walton County. Same thing happens in the Miramar Beach areas.

Oh Sure, that part is OK....but, more importantly, what can we do about the 911 operator and responders snickering about the PCB zip code??


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[30A Skunkape]

Oh Sure, that part is OK....but, more importantly, what can we do about the 911 operator and responders snickering about the PCB zip code??


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Do you think they send the jalopy ambulance to PCB 911 calls?!

[InletBchDweller]

SPEWED coffee....thanks.

Do you think they send the jalopy ambulance to PCB 911 calls?!

[rdelong43065]

Oh Sure, that part is OK....but, more importantly, what can we do about the 911 operator and responders snickering about the PCB zip code??


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More of a chuckle than a snicker actually.

[Miss Kitty]

Don't hate me because I am beautiful, hate me because my zip code is 32459. Oh, and did I mention I "live" on the south side of 30-A.

[Smiling JOe]

Don't hate me because I am beautiful, hate me because my zip code is 32459. Oh, and did I mention I "live" on the south side of 30-A.

[Smiling JOe]

Do you think they send the jalopy ambulance to PCB 911 calls?!

Since the Panama City Beach Emergency Services are in Bay County, and SoWal's in Walton County, I just thought there may be potential for screw ups. I grew up in a town where 911 calls were local, but our phone services were through the neighboring state's. So, if you called 911, we received Emergency services in the neighboring state, and they were told specifically that the could not cross the State line for emergencies. So, our little town, not having a 911 service, and only volunteer ambulance and fire, we had to look up the number in the phone book for City Hall, who didn't have 24/7 dispatch. If the call was after hours, the phone would continuously ring. They didn't even have an answering machine. So if you really needed help, you had to call the Sheriff, which was a long distance call because he lived in a neighboring small town just down the road. That meant, you had to dial 0 (zero) to get an operator to place the call. The Sheriff (my cousin) was rarely at home. If no answer at his house, you started to work your way down the ranks.

After the fires in SoWal this summer, I read that the Emergency services for this area of NW FL are somewhat interlinked and will cross County lines, but if I were living in a questionable area of concern, I would be contacting Emergency Services to see how they respond. If the call goes into PCB 911, can they dispatch Walton County? Just a question I would ask. I recall a recent incident where a person's home in SoWal burned to the ground, even though they called 911 immediately. After never hearing the sirens, and the home being less than 5 miles to the nearest Fire Station, the homeowner called again. Dispatch had sent the Fire Trucks to a place in North Walton, with a similar street name. OOPS! By the time the SoWal firetrucks arrived from the second call, it was too late.

[30A Skunkape]

You could always get one of those "I've fallen, and I can't get up" transmitters

[rdelong43065]

After the fires in SoWal this summer, I read that the Emergency services for this area of NW FL are somewhat interlinked and will cross County lines, but if I were living in a questionable area of concern, I would be contacting Emergency Services to see how they respond. If the call goes into PCB 911, can they dispatch Walton County? Just a question I would ask.

If the call goes to a different county, they have the ability to transfer to the proper agency. This usually does not happen from a hard-wired phone line. BUT, using a cell phone is a much different matter. You can be way into Bay county for example and dial 911. It is very well possible that your cell phone will be picked up by a tower in Walton County. That will send your call to the wrong answering point. Unfortunately, it is the nature of the cell technology.

[Smiling JOe]

Anything with the PCB zip code will show it as a PCB address when you call 911. It is usually not a big deal as the address will come up on the map automatically as long as it is in Walton County. Same thing happens in the Miramar Beach areas. That is a 32550 Destin zip code. Even better is that Sandestin Resort is 32550 and right above is Driftwood Estates in 32459. Fun time for sure.

If the call goes to a different county, they have the ability to transfer to the proper agency. This usually does not happen from a hard-wired phone line. BUT, using a cell phone is a much different matter. You can be way into Bay county for example and dial 911. It is very well possible that your cell phone will be picked up by a tower in Walton County. That will send your call to the wrong answering point. Unfortunately, it is the nature of the cell technology.

Now, I'm totally confused. I hear you saying that if you call 911 from a land line from an property in WalCo, with a PCB zipcode, the address shows up as being in PCB. Does the call go to Bay Co Emergency services, or Walton Co?

Seems like if the call goes to the wrong County, it could take a while that one may not have, before the emergency peeps were on the scene, especially if one wasn't able to explain the entire screwed up zipcode story to the 911 operator.

[cp]

oh my

[Camp Creek Kid]

I don't think there is much problem with the 911 services. There is a fire station in Inlet Beach and it too has the 32413 zip code. We had an emergency this summer and had no problems using 911.

[SHELLY]

"911...what is your emergency and zip code?"

"Oh, you have chest pains and you live in South Walton, but you have a Panama City Zip Code? My goodness, you must feel awful!!....and that chest pain thingie probably smarts a bit too."

"<snicker> We're dispatching the ambulance that services that zip code right now"
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[beach ho]

The USPO service is a part of the Federal Government, need I say any more!!

I've been here 25 years and they have always had us messed up.