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07-01-2009, 11:49 AM
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Leave No Trace
The BCC passes 5-0 last night in favor of the "Leave No Trace" ordinance....YAY!!! Why isn't anyone talking about it? This is wonderful! Is SoWal only a place for negative posts? Finally our beaches will have order and be beautiful again!
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07-01-2009, 11:54 AM
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funny you ask that, because more often, people are accusing SoWal as being a place for only positive posts.
What's new with the passing. They've already passed it once. Now they passed it again. We will be more pleased when we see the beach free of crap in the evening, and when we stop falling into huge holes on the beach.
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07-02-2009, 08:25 PM
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Code enforcement is comprised of five officers of which one is the manager, plus the administrative assistant. Leave no trace is well known to be very important to the citizens of south Walton. July 4th has to be one of the busiest times in south Walton. So how serious is the situation really being taken when you look at the allocation of resources.
Thursday--1 officer on duty - Gomer
Friday--1 officer on duty - Goober
Saturday--0 officer on duty - No one on duty-not even AuntB
Sunday--1 officer on duty - Barney
As this was being explained to me I may have mixed up Saturday and Friday. While Saturday is the holiday, Friday is what the county says is the holiday.
If this level of service is acceptable during such a busy time, one has to wonder, why not just go ahead and make this the level of service year round.
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07-02-2009, 08:36 PM
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Code enforcement is comprised of five officers of which one is the manager, plus the administrative assistant. Leave no trace is well known to be very important to the citizens of south Walton. July 4th has to be one of the busiest times in south Walton. So how serious is the situation really being taken when you look at the allocation of resources.
Thursday--1 officer on duty - Gomer
Friday--1 officer on duty - Goober
Saturday--0 officer on duty - No one on duty-not even AuntB
Sunday--1 officer on duty - Barney
As this was being explained to me I may have mixed up Saturday and Friday. While Saturday is the holiday, Friday is what the county says is the holiday.
If this level of service is acceptable during such a busy time, one has to wonder, why not just go ahead and make this the level of service year round.
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What will Goober, Gomer, and Barney be doing for the rest of the summer (Labor Day)? Maybe long term goals will be realized in (surprise, surprise, surprise as Gomer might offer to the idle ***** in a slapstick manner) the long term.
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07-02-2009, 08:45 PM
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What will Goober, Gomer, and Barney be doing for the rest of the summer (Labor Day)? Maybe long term goals will be realized in (surprise, surprise, surprise as Gomer might offer to the idle ***** in a slapstick manner) the long term.
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Who knows but if the past is any indication - NOTHING !
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07-02-2009, 08:48 PM
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maybe you should leave the volleyball up on Saturday night.
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07-02-2009, 08:49 PM
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What will Goober, Gomer, and Barney be doing for the rest of the summer (Labor Day)? Maybe long term goals will be realized in (surprise, surprise, surprise as Gomer might offer to the idle ***** in a slapstick manner) the long term.
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I think they ought to just wait until October or November to even start this whole thing. Seems like it would be a whole less work then.
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07-02-2009, 08:50 PM
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maybe you should leave the volleyball up on Saturday night.
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They never took it down !
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07-02-2009, 08:53 PM
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Who knows but if the past is any indication - NOTHING !
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I'm not sure what did or didn't happen in the past, but today we have a way to apply the heat to keep the golden goose that is our pristine beaches clean. Perhaps if the internet was around 30 years ago Miramar, Destin and PC wouldn't be the blight disasters they are now.
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07-02-2009, 08:56 PM
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I think they ought to just wait until October or November to even start this whole thing. Seems like it would be a whole less work then.
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Sometimes trial by fire is the best training! Better to hit the ground running than be milquetoast about it.
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07-02-2009, 09:02 PM
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Sometimes trial by fire is the best training! Better to hit the ground running than be milquetoast about it.
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Keep calling they will then just hire people at $35.00 per hour to be beach coordinators. That Goldgen Goose is producing fewer and fewer dollars and its not because of "crap" on the beach. Tourism is down as people try to keep their heads above water.
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07-02-2009, 09:12 PM
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Keep calling they will then just hire people at $35.00 per hour to be beach coordinators. That Goldgen Goose is producing fewer and fewer dollars and its not because of "crap" on the beach. Tourism is down as people try to keep their heads above water.
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And the recession (or depression if you prefer) that lasted forever that you can cite is....?
That $35.00 per hour is probably a better long term investment than the whole 'THE Beach' fiasco.
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07-02-2009, 09:28 PM
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understanding that I"m an ex-smoker, and a sometimes-beer-drinker, I'd give my left doo-dad for me and my kids (and everyone else, for that matter) not to have to wade through spent cigarette butts, pull-tabs, plastic and glass bottles, and myriad bottle caps as we enjoy our piece of Paradise......though I'd like to come across a pair of those cute left-over panties posted a few weeks ago!
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07-02-2009, 09:31 PM
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.though I'd like to come across a pair of those cute left-over panties posted a few weeks ago!
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amateur panties.
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07-02-2009, 09:33 PM
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amateur panties.
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07-02-2009, 09:53 PM
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I don't know if I could handle "professional" panties!
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07-02-2009, 09:58 PM
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understanding that I"m an ex-smoker, and a sometimes-beer-drinker, I'd give my left doo-dad for me and my kids (and everyone else, for that matter) not to have to wade through spent cigarette butts, pull-tabs, plastic and glass bottles, and myriad bottle caps as we enjoy our piece of Paradise......though I'd like to come across a pair of those cute left-over panties posted a few weeks ago!
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I must say one thing...ooooh, nasty!  What would you do with them?
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07-02-2009, 09:59 PM
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And the recession (or depression if you prefer) that lasted forever that you can cite is....?
That $35.00 per hour is probably a better long term investment than the whole 'THE Beach' fiasco.
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It seems that those that ride can see no difference - same issues over and over with no resolution.
This one is going to last awhile. Already has.
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07-02-2009, 10:21 PM
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It seems that those that ride can see no difference - same issues over and over with no resolution.
This one is going to last awhile. Already has.
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I don't understand. I thought 30-A was largely undeveloped until the 1990s. The crap on the beach issue can't be that old, at least not here. I think in areas where it has been an issue in the past it has been settled in a very crap-unfriendly manner.
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07-02-2009, 10:30 PM
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I don't understand. I thought 30-A was largely undeveloped until the 1990s. The crap on the beach issue can't be that old, at least not here. I think in areas where it has been an issue in the past it has been settled in a very crap-unfriendly manner.
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And I don't understand your "I don't understand"
Who you gonna call ?
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07-02-2009, 10:50 PM
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And I don't understand your "I don't understand"
Who you gonna call ?
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You understand just fine.
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07-03-2009, 12:27 AM
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You understand just fine. 
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Guess you are just smarter than me because no I don't understand your post about 30-A.
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07-03-2009, 03:46 AM
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Guess you are just smarter than me because no I don't understand your post about 30-A.
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My hope is that you are in the minority and smarter heads will prevail. I think you just like to argue and live in the past....is that what you are interested in?
Enjoy your chairs.
To the original poster on this thread....if you have been lurking around here, you would know that both negative and positive posts have informed sowallers (near and far), stopped rumors and given many a platform to get great things accomplished in the area. Thanks for your post!
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07-04-2009, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Interested Girl
Code enforcement is comprised of five officers of which one is the manager, plus the administrative assistant. Leave no trace is well known to be very important to the citizens of south Walton. July 4th has to be one of the busiest times in south Walton. So how serious is the situation really being taken when you look at the allocation of resources.
Thursday--1 officer on duty - Gomer
Friday--1 officer on duty - Goober
Saturday--0 officer on duty - No one on duty-not even AuntB
Sunday--1 officer on duty - Barney
As this was being explained to me I may have mixed up Saturday and Friday. While Saturday is the holiday, Friday is what the county says is the holiday.
If this level of service is acceptable during such a busy time, one has to wonder, why not just go ahead and make this the level of service year round.
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I am a dedicated lurker on this site and I rarely make my own opinion known regarding all of these issues. I firmly believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion and this is the perfect forum for airing those opinions. However this bothered me enough to write a post....I understand the frustration with the beach debris,I too enjoy our beautiful beaches every day. I have come to really love this area and am proud to call it home. There are people out there every day trying to solve these issues and come up with a working solution that pleases most of the masses and they have to start somewhere. Why do you,interested girl, have to resort to calling county workers names? Isnt it bad enough that Code enforcement officers have a difficult job? Why don't you show some support instead of derogetory name calling. Really...maybe you should walk a mile in their shoes before you spout off.
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07-04-2009, 09:56 AM
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Have you ever called them, dealt with them, seen them in action, seen them actually do their job ? I bet not!
I initally gave them respect and support - having actually asked them to do their job and watching them, bob,weave and dance rather than enforcing the ordinances they are paid to enforce - they have lost that support.
I find nothing difficult about their job other than the fact that they find difficulty in doing it. Give me a break - the highest tourist day in SOWAL and no one is on duty.
If you want results on issues call Sheriff Mike.
Still trying to determine who plays Floyd's role and who plays Andy's role.
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07-04-2009, 06:43 PM
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Have you ever called them, dealt with them, seen them in action, seen them actually do their job ? I bet not!
I initally gave them respect and support - having actually asked them to do their job and watching them, bob,weave and dance rather than enforcing the ordinances they are paid to enforce - they have lost that support.
I find nothing difficult about their job other than the fact that they find difficulty in doing it. Give me a break - the highest tourist day in SOWAL and no one is on duty.
If you want results on issues call Sheriff Mike.
Still trying to determine who plays Floyd's role and who plays Andy's role.
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Still didnt answer my question, why do you resort to name calling? Doesnt solve the problem and causes resentment.
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07-04-2009, 07:36 PM
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And you didn't answer mine. Guess we are even
I did not call anyone a name - assigned a Mayberry character to unnamed people.
I kind of resent their lack of action, professionalism and results.
Just my opinion.
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07-04-2009, 10:41 PM
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Code Enforcements hands are tied by what the TDC, BCC, , Legal Services, Sheriff's Dept., etc. want to do or not do, depending on who is suing them at the time. Don't blame the messenger when there are other issues pending. They do what ther are told to do and work hard at it.
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07-04-2009, 10:53 PM
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I do not buy that excuse, sorry.
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07-05-2009, 08:35 AM
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I do not buy that excuse, sorry.
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Maybe you should. I have called code enforcement on many occasions and the response has almost always been fruitful. The area across the street from where I live was clear cut without permission. Due to code enforcement, it was finally re-planted, and while certainly not the same as it was, is now presentable. I understand, though I can't confirm it, that over $60,000 in fines were leveled against the owners but a settlement was made for about 1% of that amount. That certainly isn't code enforcement's fault, if it is true. We have a financial shortage in the county and this kind of thing transpires? Like an earlier poster said, give them support county officials and let them do their job.
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07-05-2009, 09:33 AM
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Maybe you should. I have called code enforcement on many occasions and the response has almost always been fruitful. The area across the street from where I live was clear cut without permission. Due to code enforcement, it was finally re-planted, and while certainly not the same as it was, is now presentable. I understand, though I can't confirm it, that over $60,000 in fines were leveled against the owners but a settlement was made for about 1% of that amount. That certainly isn't code enforcement's fault, if it is true. We have a financial shortage in the county and this kind of thing transpires? Like an earlier poster said, give them support county officials and let them do their job.
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Glad it worked for you, but that is not my experience. I have no respect for them due to their lack of skills,effectiveness and timely respone.
Got a problem call Sheriff Mike.
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07-05-2009, 10:33 AM
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Glad it worked for you, but that is not my experience. I have no respect for them due to their lack of skills,effectiveness and timely respone.
Got a problem call Sheriff Mike.
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I don't think the Sheriff can help you with code issues. Better make friends with CE.
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07-05-2009, 10:38 AM
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They have been more helpful everytime.
called them at 1:20 last night, arrived at 1:26 - problem solved.
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They have been more helpful everytime.
called them at 1:20 last night, arrived at 1:26 -problem solved.
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They do crime well. Code enforcement is not their job. Still say you better make friends with code if you have code problems.
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07-05-2009, 11:19 AM
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They do crime well. Code enforcement is not their job. Still say you better make friends with code if you have code problems. 
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Was a code problem, code took the day off and the so solved it in about 4 minutes.
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07-05-2009, 12:00 PM
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Was a code problem, code took the day off and the so solved it in about 4 minutes.
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You had a code enforcement problem at 1:20 am? What was it?
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07-05-2009, 03:07 PM
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They do crime well. Code enforcement is not their job. Still say you better make friends with code if you have code problems. 
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Was a code problem, code took the day off and the so solved it in about 4 minutes.
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You had a code enforcement problem at 1:20 am? What was it?
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Looks like Here4Good and I have the same question, IG. And, I agree with what idlewind has to say about you perhaps abusing the SO. I can't imagine that you would call the SO on the 4th of July with all the people in town, many people who have been out drinking all day and take the SO away from protecting the safety of citizens for a code infraction...unless, of course, the infraction had your life/home in danger. I do not understand if CE was going to work weekends, that this day, of all days, would be a day off.
Methinks IG is a part of the good old boy and interested girl club.
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07-05-2009, 03:49 PM
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it looks like to me that IG is personally atacking the Code guys even though she didn't call them by name. I thought that was a no no on this site.
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07-05-2009, 04:06 PM
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You know the expression, It Takes A Village? Well, my family will be in SoWal for 2 weeks starting Wednesday.
I promise to be a good steward of the area and beaches of South Walton. I promise to Leave No Trace that I was even on the beach. I promise I will pick up all items I brought to the beach with me (us). I promise to check the surrounding area and return it to its natural state.
Ok, that could probably be worded more technically. Can anyone add to this? Maybe we need a "Promise Code" for visitors so they will understand that all visitors need to be responsible for keeping their area of beach clean.
Could we work on the wording of this "Code" and make it a stickie on SoWal.com?
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07-05-2009, 04:42 PM
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The International message for protecting and respecting pristine places has been around for awhile:
"Take only photographs; leave only footprints"
thank you for caring about our beautiful beaches, enjoy your vacation, and come back soon!
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07-05-2009, 05:01 PM
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And you didn't answer mine. Guess we are even
I did not call anyone a name - assigned a Mayberry character to unnamed people.
I kind of resent their lack of action, professionalism and results.
Just my opinion.
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The answer to your 4 questions is yes, yes,yes, yes.
Again I ask you why do you call county workers derogetory names? The excuses you have given me are really invalid. Couldnt you just say you resent their lack of action, professionalism and results and leave it at that. Do you have to go the extra mile and get personal?
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07-05-2009, 05:32 PM
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The answer to your 4 questions is yes, yes,yes, yes.
Again I ask you why do you call county workers derogetory names? The excuses you have given me are really invalid. Couldnt you just say you resent their lack of action, professionalism and results and leave it at that. Do you have to go the extra mile and get personal?
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You think Goober, Gomer Barney and Aunt B are deragatory? They have to be four of the most beloved characters in TV history.
Now Larry, Darryl and Darryl would be different.
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07-05-2009, 05:43 PM
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Are they beloved by you? Is that how you chose those names?
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07-05-2009, 05:44 PM
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You think Goober, Gomer Barney and Aunt B are deragatory? They have to be four of the most beloved characters in TV history.
Now Larry, Darrell and Darrell would be different.
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Although Larry, Darrell and Darrell were funny
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07-05-2009, 05:53 PM
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Looks like Here4Good and I have the same question, IG. And, I agree with what idlewind has to say about you perhaps abusing the SO. I can't imagine that you would call the SO on the 4th of July with all the people in town, many people who have been out drinking all day and take the SO away from protecting the safety of citizens for a code infraction...unless, of course, the infraction had your life/home in danger. I do not understand if CE was going to work weekends, that this day, of all days, would be a day off.
Methinks IG is a part of the good old boy and interested girl club. 
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If Code Enforcement took the day off - who you gonna call Ghost Busters ?
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07-05-2009, 05:54 PM
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Although Larry, Darrell and Darrell were funny 
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Yep Funny as ???? , but definitely not beloved.
Hey FF2 which days of the year do all of the fire fighters in Walton County take the day off at the same time ?
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07-05-2009, 06:13 PM
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Glad it worked for you, but that is not my experience. I have no respect for them due to their lack of skills,effectiveness and timely respone.
Got a problem call Sheriff Mike.
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Sheriff Mike has over 150 deputies versus 4 code enforcement officers and a manager. YOU ARE A WITCH!!! They must have enforced a code on your precious edgewater condo??
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07-05-2009, 06:16 PM
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Sheriff Mike has over 150 deputies versus 4 code enforcement officers and a manager.YOU ARE A WITCH!!! They must have enforced a code on your precious edgewater condo??
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I do not have,own,rent or live at Edgewater.
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07-05-2009, 06:16 PM
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Yep Funny as ???? , but definitely not beloved.
Hey FF2 which days of the year do all of the fire fighters in Walton County take the day off at the same time ?
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Have you examined the budgets of the fire depts ( north and south) or the sheriff? Compared their size to CE's? If you want 24/7 service from CE, as these other groups, you better be prepared for a substantial increase in your property taxes.
If you ( like I) do not want to pay higher taxes so that a CE officer can ride around looking for errant yard sale signs at 3 AM, then I suggest you might want to scale back your expectations. As currently designed CE is supposed to respond to violations after the fact, something that can easily wait for regular business hours. I have never heard of someone dying because a tree was cut in error or a sign was erected in the wrong place. The Sheriff and Fire people should be reserved for criminal or life/death situations, not someone's displeasure at what their neighbor is doing on their property.
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07-05-2009, 06:22 PM
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I do not have,own,rent or live at Edgewater.
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my humble apologies for thinking you lived at edgewater ...
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