New big blue signs in SoWal - Page 8

SHELLY · 01-19-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WaltonGOP

Since this is such a hot issue in relation to tourism, maybe the TDC can find a tourism expert on this area, and hire them as a consultant, to work through what would be acceptable to both the local residents

Hey! I know someone who is a tourism expert:

According to the NWF Daily News....Titus is planning on starting her own tourism consulting company, said Tracy Louthain, spokeswoman for the TDC.

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Indigo Jill · 01-19-2008, 05:53 PM

I think everyone needs to take a breath about the sign issue. Aesthetics are incredibly subjective - look at where the discussion even here has gone. For some it's the color that grates on the nerves, others it's the height, others it's because they are not wooden...beauty IS in the eye of the beholder. Obviously someone - a group of people actually - thought the signs as they are in their completed state was a good idea. And not everyone thinks they are horrid - the majority of those I've personally questioned have a "it is what it is" stance. Oh, and my boys think they are great

. Keep in mind, those NOT happy with something are sooooo much more motivated to let the world know about it - in forums like a message board for example - which can skew perspective of the community as a whole.

I DEFINITELY think that the TDC needs to address the concerns of those who vehemently oppose the design because that is the what Public Relations is all about. But if it is true, that the community/public did have an opportunity to attend meetings on the proposed design, etc. and this is what the majority voted on, then I think we need to move forward from the subject.

Just my two cents, though.

goodwitch58 · 01-19-2008, 06:44 PM

I am not at all sure there was any kind of vote. Perhaps it was an agenda item on an obscure meeting notice somewhere...but, I am quite sure the community at large did not have an opportunity to vote on any design or even for signs to be installed.

In fact, a closer look at the entire process might show that even the TDC staff wasn't of one mind about the project.

Members of the community should have an opportunity to make a contribution to the look of the place where we live....it should not all be about marketing to tourists.

JMHO

DiDa723 · 01-19-2008, 07:22 PM

I don't normally jump into the arena here and don't want to offend anyone who may have had a part of the design process, but what were they thinking?? I feel they are cold and architechurally a misfit to our area. New signs may have been justified... these are just embarrassing.

csoldier · 01-19-2008, 07:28 PM

Personally, the signs are not of concern to me. Other than being a liitle high, I have more important things to be concerned about in my life. Why don't you people who are so distraught and disturbed over these signs put your passion into issues which really matter in life? I am more concerned about a dad who struggles daily with alcoholism, a cousin with Down's Sydrome diagnosed with cancer who past away recently, restarting my life and business in a new area and trying to provide for my family, a friend recently married who just discovered she was pregnant and her husband walks out on her, and people in general just trying to survive and get by each and every day. Who the hell gives a damn about some ridiculous sign? Please get your priorities in order. God bless!!!
Mark
Miramar Beach

TooFarTampa · 01-19-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by csoldier

Personally, the signs are not of concern to me. Other than being a liitle high, I have more important things to be concerned about in my life. Why don't you people who are so distraught and disturbed over these signs put your passion into issues which really matter in life? I am more concerned about a dad who struggles daily with alcoholism, a cousin with Down's Sydrome diagnosed with cancer who past away recently, restarting my life and business in a new area and trying to provide for my family, a friend recently married who just discovered she was pregnant and her husband walks out on her, and people in general just trying to survive and get by each and every day. Who the hell gives a damn about some ridiculous sign? Please get your priorities in order. God bless!!!
Mark
Miramar Beach

I am sorry you are having difficulties Mark. Why would you assume that those who are being vocal about the signs don't have their priorities straight? Just curious.

up4golf · 01-19-2008, 08:17 PM

is it true rosemary and alys beach did not get signs? if so how can this be the county owns right of way on the roadside there also.

sunsetbaby · 01-19-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by csoldier

Personally, the signs are not of concern to me. Other than being a liitle high, I have more important things to be concerned about in my life. Why don't you people who are so distraught and disturbed over these signs put your passion into issues which really matter in life? I am more concerned about a dad who struggles daily with alcoholism, a cousin with Down's Sydrome diagnosed with cancer who past away recently, restarting my life and business in a new area and trying to provide for my family, a friend recently married who just discovered she was pregnant and her husband walks out on her, and people in general just trying to survive and get by each and every day. Who the hell gives a damn about some ridiculous sign? Please get your priorities in order. God bless!!!
Mark
Miramar Beach

Perfectly spoken...by someone who obviously doens't live and love 30A like the locals who live and work here do! Sorry pal..yes life is hard, and full of things that require our evergy...but preserving 30A is pretty big on my list. Because I live and work here, I am blessed to have paradise to help me along the way...and I intend, as do many other 30A locals, to preserve it with every ouce of my being. It's home! There's no place like home!

John R · 01-19-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by csoldier

Personally, the signs are not of concern to me. Other than being a liitle high, I have more important things to be concerned about in my life. Why don't you people who are so distraught and disturbed over these signs put your passion into issues which really matter in life? I am more concerned about a dad who struggles daily with alcoholism, a cousin with Down's Sydrome diagnosed with cancer who past away recently, restarting my life and business in a new area and trying to provide for my family, a friend recently married who just discovered she was pregnant and her husband walks out on her, and people in general just trying to survive and get by each and every day. Who the hell gives a damn about some ridiculous sign? Please get your priorities in order. God bless!!!
Mark
Miramar Beach

Boy, that's a pretty big list. I wonder how you have time to post on a message board. We've all been at a stage in our lives where there seem to be more things down than up, lucky for me(at least), I've gotten past those down times. Mark, obviously I have no idea where you work everyday, but if it is on 30A, you must admit the signs seem a bit out of place. If it's not a hot topic for you, perhaps you should leave it to those for whom it is.

sunsetbaby · 01-19-2008, 10:01 PM

perhaps you should leave it to those for whom it is.[/quote]

To quote a 30A local... "Those that know, know...Those that don't...I just shake my head"

We begin most days with beutiful sun-rises...
We end most days with magnificent sun-sets...

Yes, we are selfish...For our own physical, spiritual, and emitonal good!

The signs simply DO NOT FIT!!! They must go as they are now!

momof2kids · 01-19-2008, 11:35 PM

Just got back from a ride along the beach along the Okaloosa/Walton County line and just figured out where the sign idea came from...

The City Of Destin beach access signs are blue, odd shaped (not like Walton's - but odd enough) and hideous. Maybe the same sign people were used?? The signs are similar, and flow from the Destin city limit into Walton County's signs. (along old 98/Scenic 98). Next time you are over this way take a look...

jdarg · 01-19-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jdarg

I just read the letter from Tracy L- is it true that sign design was made available to the public? How? Was this before we moved here? I can't imagine the sign planning slipping past SoWallers- the group that misses nothing.

I am quoting myself because there has not been an answer to my question.

When and where was the sign design disclosed and discussed? Did ANYONE see it? Or was it a small print announcement int he Walton Sun and on the TDC website?

Miss Kitty · 01-20-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jdarg

I am quoting myself because there has not been an answer to my question.

When and where was the sign design disclosed and discussed? Did ANYONE see it? Or was it a small print announcement int he Walton Sun and on the TDC website?

Thanks jdarg....I have been waiting for the answer to this, as well. I can't understand when all the "local input" happened...especially in light of the work being done on Scenic Corridor status. I left before these things were erected (they still looked like mini benches) and I can only guess that the pics posted do not do them justice...they must be an assault to the eye and the soul.

Bob · 01-20-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by csoldier

Personally, the signs are not of concern to me. Other than being a liitle high, I have more important things to be concerned about in my life. Why don't you people who are so distraught and disturbed over these signs put your passion into issues which really matter in life? I am more concerned about a dad who struggles daily with alcoholism, a cousin with Down's Sydrome diagnosed with cancer who past away recently, restarting my life and business in a new area and trying to provide for my family, a friend recently married who just discovered she was pregnant and her husband walks out on her, and people in general just trying to survive and get by each and every day. Who the hell gives a damn about some ridiculous sign? Please get your priorities in order. God bless!!!
Mark
Miramar Beach

thread killer!.....get some coffee and come out of it!

John · 01-20-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by scooterbug44

One question - since the signs are supposedly posted at the boundaries and one side is completely blank, why couldn't we have posted 1/2 as many signs w/ printing on both sides?

Gotta bump this great idea. The blank backsides are begging for something.

scooterbug44 · 01-20-2008, 03:08 PM

Sorry to burst your diatribe bubble csoldier, but I can spout off about my dislike of ugly signs and still have a whole lot of room for "major" issues in my life.

Don't play the "life sucks for people" game with me, as I'll win! Everyone has a ton of baggage and trauma involving their family and friends, it's how you handle it that determines how happy you are.

Perhaps people are choosing to focus on the things they CAN change. Hideous blue signs are a nice distraction from alcoholism, cancer, alzheimer's, child abuse, unemployment, spousal abuse, etc.

NotDeadYet · 01-20-2008, 04:00 PM

I have a vague memory of seeing some sort of sign presentation quite a long time ago, like several years ago, at a BCC meeting or two, and I think it was covered in the papers at the time. It is vague,

but it seems to me like the design was first presented as a "family" of signs, and the ones on the beach got installed first, along with the one at the TDC building on 331, and those have been there a good while. I think the design is fine on the beaches, and at the TDC - something bold really does need to be there in order to not get lost. But I don't think I, or anyone else, could really picture what they would look like along 30A, nor the scale of the height of these latest signs. I also think the design was first chosen back before the scenic designation was actively pursued, and the TDC should have gone back to the drawing board and also sought current public participation. A lot has happened along 30A since the design was chosen.

And I agree with Scooterbug. It is good to focus from time to time on things we might actually be able to change. There are horrors enough in the world but taking action or having an opinion doesn't have to be limited to very "serious" matters. Not mutually exclusive.

Minnie · 01-20-2008, 04:25 PM

As a frequent visitor to the area who does pay the tax that paid for the signs, I find them just OK. Not horribly ugly but, certainly there could have been a more pleasing design.

I do not however think that vandalism is the answer to this concern and I have to wonder if the signs do suffer vandalism is anyone that suggested that as a way to deal with them, going to feel responsible.

I see in this thread, some adult suggestions, that make sense and hopefully the local authorities will listen and compromise. And honestly I see some "rabble rousing" that does not speak to me of reasonable options to the signs.

I will say that as a tourist, I did find them helpful in locating the various communities.

I did find them to be terribly high in the air at points. Not sure the reason for that. And I agree that color on them is a little intense. I do like the beach umbrella design.

And I can understand wanting to preserve the local beauty of the area but there seems to be some hostility toward tourists and believe me if the tourist goes away, you will get your isolated, uncluttered area back.

But is that what you want?

tsutcli · 01-20-2008, 06:33 PM

Yes !!!!!!

tsutcli · 01-20-2008, 06:35 PM

Can Someone Tell Me How To Remove Or Change The Description Under My "handle" ? I Resent Being Called "beach Tourist" And Don't Know Where It Came From In The Beginning.

scooterbug44 · 01-20-2008, 06:46 PM

I don't have a problem with signs to help tourists navigate 30-A, but it's not exactly a complex maze of interchanges, many lanes of high speed traffic, or confusing terrain. If they need garish 15' high signs to find their way along 30-A, I don't know how they 1) drove from their home to 30-A 2) passed their driver's test. As with the flag warning system, I think people are just oblivious or unaware, not that more or bolder signs are needed.

Some of the signs these current atrocities replaced were 3'x6' and the only info they contained was the name of the community in large letters. These new signs are much harder to read both due to their height and the print being 1/4 the previous size.

Ocean Lover · 01-20-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tsutcli

Can Someone Tell Me How To Remove Or Change The Description Under My "handle" ? I Resent Being Called "beach Tourist" And Don't Know Where It Came From In The Beginning.

It refers to your number of posts.

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Miss Kitty · 01-20-2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tsutcli

Can Someone Tell Me How To Remove Or Change The Description Under My "handle" ? I Resent Being Called "beach Tourist" And Don't Know Where It Came From In The Beginning.

...I'll tell you all about it if you promise not to capitilize every word!

...the "Beach Tourist" is a name given for how many posts you have.

Minnie · 01-20-2008, 06:58 PM

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I don't have a problem with signs to help tourists navigate 30-A, but it's not exactly a complex maze of interchanges, many lanes of high speed traffic, or confusing terrain. If they need garish 15' high signs to find their way along 30-A, I don't know how they 1) drove from their home to 30-A 2) passed their driver's test. As with the flag warning system, I think people are just oblivious or unaware, not that more or bolder signs are needed.

They followed the signs to 30-A.

I don't understand why you think that anyone would automatically know where these beach communites begin and end. Sure its very easy to find 30-A but if you are from out of town and you are looking for a restaurant in Seagrove that is something that one does not automatically know.

I don't see any relationship at all to letting someone know where something is located in an area they might not be familiar with and being able to pass a driving test. Comments such as that do nothing to support your validity to changing the signs.

If all the signs were removed from 30-A, how would one know where one community begins and ends?

I have no problem with some other type of sign, but to insinuate that one can't drive to SoWal or take a driver's test is related to wanting clarification to the location of certain areas on 30-A, is ridiculous at best.

If your problem is simply with the design of the sign that is understandable, if your dislike is having signs at all, well then I disagree with your reasoning on them not being needed.

Minnie · 01-20-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tsutcli

Yes !!!!!!

So you were born in SoWal, lived there your entire life and do not have any job that depends on the tourist in the area.

scooterbug44 · 01-20-2008, 07:16 PM

I am not advocating that we remove all signage from 30-A, I am saying that if the purported reason for the new signs is ease of navigation for tourists, smaller print and harder to see signs isn't the way to go.

And that if driving 30-A is too confusing and poorly marked, the far more complex feat of driving several hours to get here and remembering the correct number of feet to allow in fog would be likewise impossible.

And to use your example, someone following the signs to Seagrove and their dining destination will be FAR more confused by the fact that per the new signage, Seagrove is just a white stucco home directly south of 395, or that the Preserve at Grayton isn't in Grayton, than by the previous lack of signs.

Minnie · 01-20-2008, 07:25 PM

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I am not advocating that we remove all signage from 30-A, I am saying that if the purported reason for the new signs is ease of navigation for tourists, smaller print and harder to see signs isn't the way to go

That I would agree with.

chrisv · 01-20-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Minnie

If all the signs were removed from 30-A, how would one know where one community begins and ends?

The architecture?

Beach House 25 · 01-20-2008, 09:26 PM

Well since I been reading this thread and watching the amazing poll, I felt compelled to voice my opinion on the Dreaded signs. After chatting briefly this morning during an early lunch at the Market I figured since I voiced it with the couple that was sitting a few tables away after over hearing their conversation on the Dreaded signs. Here we go...

OK we now have signs that are very user friendly. Visible and correct information. (Being fairly new to the area I had at times wondered were I was at "Seaside/Seagrove... etc etc... )I mean we found the signs eventually those low to the ground pale wooden signs. Placed in odd places along 30-A.
Now I drive without wondering what area I am in and what areas are in front of me. Now put Mr/Mrs Tourist in this and BINGO they can navigate much better and be better informed and they just might ENJOY a restaurant or another business that they can correctly place in "Seaside or Seagrove and or Watercolor etc etc....

Honestly I think they are perfect for the purpose they are placed there for, "INFORMATION" . I think the old signs back in the day were OK but now with society seeming to want Instant service and communications, the signs are just that... the signs of the times. Thats my humble opinion.....

Tootsie · 01-20-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Sothebys

Does Alys Beach do short term rentals? I wonder if they were left off or just not added. If they don't pay a heads in beds tax, they may not be included.

once again, these are considered the main beach communities along 30A. yes, some are resort communities, some are not. this has nothing to do with anything except names of general neighborhoods along 30A.

Alys Beach has not been added to the TDC website, and I'm sure its an oversight. Their map and information is incomplete/incorrect without it.

Tootsie · 01-20-2008, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Rauschkolb

No JOe, I don't think it is right to assume that they will not be replacing the signs. I believe this is a powerfully important element essential to the identity of SCENIC 30-A. I don't think we or the visitors should settle for anything less than full redesign and replacement, period.

This well crafted letter from the TDC is an attempt to make it a forgone conclusion that the signs are staying. They assumed (wrongly) that because no one made a flap with the design of the beach signs that they could mirror them and we would just roll over and accept this nonsense all along SCENIC 30-A.

Judging from this thread and most everyone I speak to, this community is not about to roll over and accept this. To say that they have gotten positive feedback from visitors is just outrageous. Perhaps the Montgomery School for the Blind put in a good word.

At any rate, my suggestion is to approach the TDC along with Claire Bannerman, and other community leaders including representatives from St. Joe, Seaside, Alys beach, Sowallers, Rosemary Beach ect... and come up with a cohesive plan and design that fits. The new signs should comply with traffic safety standards and wind loads but should look nothing less than awesome.

One of the most important signs (no pun intended) of a great leader and organization is the ability to admit quickly when you have made a mistake and quickly work towards remedying the situation. I recently received a letter from a SoWaller suggesting we contact the Pier park folks and see if we can sell the signs to them. Not a bad idea really.

I think we all have the creative ability and energy to come up with a win win solution for the TDC and this community. I will pledge the first $1000.00 towards the replacement of these signs; my check will be hand delivered to the TDC Monday Morning at 10:00 A.M. Anyone wishing to join me is welcome.

Dave Rauschkolb
Full time resident

thanks Dave! yes, we do have a stake in our own community, if we claim it.

Minnie · 01-20-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisv

The architecture?

That might be true for Alys Beach, or Rosemary, but not for Santa Rosa Beach or Blue Mountain or Dune Allen.

I agree that the design of the signs could use some improvement, but I think they had the right idea.

janshops · 01-21-2008, 09:29 AM

I just returned from an area where I did not speak the language and could not make much sense of the signs. I used maps. Maybe more maps should be made available to visitors. They don't spoil the scenery.

up4golf · 01-21-2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Beach House 25

OK we now have signs that are very user friendly. Visible and correct information. (Being fairly new to the area I had at times wondered were I was at "Seaside/Seagrove... etc etc... )I mean we found the signs eventually those low to the ground pale wooden signs. Placed in odd places along 30-A.
Now I drive without wondering what area I am in and what areas are in front of me....

there are only two roads 30a and hwy98,how lost can one get?

up4golf · 01-21-2008, 11:10 AM

i think the signs will stay no matter how much we protest.

scooterbug44 · 01-21-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by up4golf

there are only two roads 30a and hwy98,how lost can one get?

I have no idea how you get lost on 30-A/98 (and that's coming from someone who regularly gets lost in her hometown), but apparently it is a serious problem that HAD to be addressed!

Stay tuned next month when we erect MORE signs explaining the concept of a 3 or 4 way stop

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Seriously though, the signs don't tell you where anything is - hospital, police, public parks, hurricane evacuation routes etc. - just the borders of what I consider to be neighborhoods.

Minnie · 01-21-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by up4golf

there are only two roads 30a and hwy98,how lost can one get?

And the roads that connect 98 to 30A. I can understand the dislike of the design of the signs, but I really do not understand why anyone thinks that everyone that comes to the area knows where things are located. I would not want to drive from one end of 30-A to the other, trying to find Blue Mountain Beach area.

But you know I will leave you to the sign bashing and for that matter tourist bashing. It is obvious to me, some just like to complain about anything that changes.

jpbhen · 01-21-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Minnie

And the roads that connect 98 to 30A. I can understand the dislike of the design of the signs, but I really do not understand why anyone thinks that everyone that comes to the area knows where things are located. I would not want to drive from one end of 30-A to the other, trying to find Blue Mountain Beach area.

But you know I will leave you to the sign bashing and for that matter tourist bashing. It is obvious to me, some just like to complain about anything that changes.

indeed.

ventana · 01-21-2008, 02:46 PM

Hideous, truly hideous. If anyone is going to Disney World soon, check out if Tomorrowland is missing a few signs. I swear that's where they came from. Seriously - "Blue Mountain".... "Space Mountain"...think about it!

I'm thinking the real tall signs are for when the TDC completes its next brilliant project - the 30-A monorail - because you need to be on an elevated track to read the stupid things.

What were they thinking??????

Smiling JOe · 01-21-2008, 03:09 PM

Minnie, most of us who dislike the signs can appreciate the benefits which tourists bring to this area. That is not an issue with the signs. The TDC stated one reason for the signs was to bring the many beach communities together as one. They have not done that and cannot do that, just by erecting matching signs. Communities are made of people, and the private communities which have recently been trying to become even more private, are not buying into the concept of ONE single Beaches of South Walton Community. There are plenty of free maps available all over, including in the free phone books available at Publix. Also, many tourists have often asked me for directions. Had one today who was driving through Grayton, "Where is the Red Barn?" I think they would have figured it out by driving a couple hundred more yards, but I gladly obliged with an answer. I have no problem with having some tasteful signs to designate known areas, but to have one for each development, might be stretching it. Other than the small block lettering on the directional signs, the actual signs don't bother me. The massive poles on bolted to the connecting anchor posts, doesn't look good at all, and the color of the posts is hideous for those scattered along most of the 30A signs. I think the color does go well with the TDC building, but the TDC buildings are not beside each of these roadside signs. For the signs at the beaches, such as the one on the beach at Grayton, I think the color looks good, because of the complimentary colors surrounding it. Again, the actual sign (not the posts), is an attractive dark blue, and a warmer sandy tone for the posts would look much better, and would compliment the colors of the actual signs.

janshops · 01-21-2008, 03:37 PM

Hating the signs seems to be bringing the the different beach communities together. Maybe we are more united than we think.

Smiling JOe · 01-21-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by janshops

Hating the signs seems to be bringing the the different beach communities together. Maybe we are more united than we think.

Very interesting observation. Where is our community found? Is it in SoWal? It is on the internet. Sure, some of this online community has found ties in the physical area of SoWal and people in the area of SoWal, but it is a community which is actually found on the internet. How cool would it be if, rather than the rare occasion when people join together for fellowship or dinner, we actually had a centralized community where we physically saw each other, like a normal small community. I see more friends and acquaintances at the WaterColor Publix and the Red Bar, than any other place. That is not what I call ONE community. As I said in an early post on the Kris Titus is leaving thread, SoWal.com/bb community has more of that centralized feeling of community than the Beaches of South Walton, and we'd be more connected if the signs all read SoWal.com.

scooterbug44 · 01-21-2008, 04:07 PM

IMO the community is rooted in Sowal and tied together by the democratic voice of sowal.com.

goodwitch58 · 01-21-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Minnie

And the roads that connect 98 to 30A. I can understand the dislike of the design of the signs, but I really do not understand why anyone thinks that everyone that comes to the area knows where things are located. I would not want to drive from one end of 30-A to the other, trying to find Blue Mountain Beach area.

But you know I will leave you to the sign bashing and for that matter tourist bashing. It is obvious to me, some just like to complain about anything that changes.

Maybe someone can send Minnie a map

Minnie · 01-21-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by goodwitch58

Maybe someone can send Minnie a map

A map does no good without the signs.

Tootsie · 01-21-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ventana

Hideous, truly hideous. If anyone is going to Disney World soon, check out if Tomorrowland is missing a few signs. I swear that's where they came from. Seriously - "Blue Mountain".... "Space Mountain"...think about it!

I'm thinking the real tall signs are for when the TDC completes its next brilliant project - the 30-A monorail - because you need to be on an elevated track to read the stupid things.

What were they thinking??????

to the sign hating thread... hope you voted. please note, there are other more positive and fun threads on sowal.com. this sign issue just happens to be hitting some of us pretty hard. are you a lurker and couldn't stand it anymore?

has anyone seen the sign just north of SEagrove Market, on little ole Hwy 395? It is so tall, it looks like there is going to be a big bus stop or train station built next to it very soon. It is massive!!!

Smiling JOe · 01-21-2008, 05:44 PM

Minnie, at least one of the free maps is paid for by advertisements, so there are plenty of shops and restaurants marked on the maps, along with the major EastWest and NorthSouth roads, so you should have no problem finding your way by signs.

Smiling JOe · 01-21-2008, 05:46 PM

Tootsie, I've seen that sign. Someone pointed out earlier the sign on Hwy 331, located on the south end of the bridge. It reads,
"Welcome to Walton County
Home of the Beaches of South Walton"

Did they change the boundaries of WalCo to end at the Choctawhatchee Bay?

Miss Kitty · 01-21-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by goodwitch58

Maybe someone can send Minnie a map

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Originally Posted by Minnie

A map does no good without the signs.

Minnie is a direction/sign lover. She can't help herself.

I am sorry, but I have to chuckle a bit at all this...I have never missed anything on 30A because of a lack of signage.

jdarg · 01-21-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Smiling JOe

Minnie, at least one of the free maps is paid for by advertisements, so there are plenty of shops and restaurants marked on the maps, along with the major EastWest and NorthSouth roads, so you should have no problem finding your way by signs.

Somehow we never got lost on 30A during 13 summer vacations.