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click here for Beach Access Map pdf (http://sowal.com/beachaccess.pdf)
Open Beach Access Points as of 7/19/05:
Dune Allen Regional Access: Located on 30-A; west of Oyster Lake at Fort Panick Rd.
Ed Walline Regional Access: Located at the intersection of Hwy. 30-A and County Rd. 393.
Grayton Beach Regional Access: Located at the end of DeFuniak Street in Grayton Beach.
Inlet Access: Located at the end of Lakeshore Drive, one block east of Orange St.
Walton Dunes: - Located at the end of Beach Front Trail east of Eastern Lake adjacent to Dunes of Seagrove.
Sugar Dunes: – Off of Sanroy Rd., east of Eastern Lake in Lakewood Community
Area east of Pompano Joe’s off Scenic Gulf Drive
Area east of Whales Tale off Scenic Gulf Drive
Here's what I've seen or heard - I will post official stuff above. The county is still evaluating accesses and should start cleanup ASAP but they are dealing with the larger issue of damaged houses I'm sure.
Inlet Beach at Walton Lakeshore Drive - the drive on access is also a good place to walk on but not any parking.
Rosemary Beach has an access open at Western Green.
Seaside has access behind Roly Poly at Perspicacity market in the center of town.
Seaside will have walk on access behind roly poly at wedding pavillion.
WaterColor brought in a removeable metal WO after Arlene and they were able to remove it before Dennis and it is already back in place. It is main access behind beach club.
WaterSound - plenty of places to walk on if you're staying there.
Grayton - walk on, drive on with 4wd and permit.
Ed Walline at 393 - walk on beside WO.
Fort Panic Dune Allen - walk on beside WO.
Grayton Beach State Park and Topsail Hill State Park have walk on access, Deer Lake has no access.
Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 11:46 PM
I'm not sure about the one behind goatfeathers but I saw some wet people walking north from it.
I posted picks somewhere in all of those photos. It was a 15'drop.
wetwilly
07-12-2005, 11:47 PM
Anything close to the West side of Eastern Lake? South Gulf Street? If not, looks like Seaside may be the closest for the Eastern Lakers? Our pool maintenance gal said that she saw people using the one at S. Gulf at Eastern Lake today but I know from last week before Dennis that it was washed out since Ivan and there was a 3-4 ft drop (again before Dennis). Any status on that walk over would be great!
Will the county post anything official anywhere about what is open or closed for renters? I don't want to tell someone to use one that is not official open or safe....
Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 11:51 PM
Anything close to the West side of Eastern Lake? South Gulf Street? If not, looks like Seaside may be the closest for the Eastern Lakers? Our pool maintenance gal said that she saw people using the one at S. Gulf at Eastern Lake today but I know from last week before Dennis that it was washed out since Ivan and there was a 3-4 ft drop (again before Dennis). Any status on that walk over would be great!
Will the county post anything official anywhere about what is open or closed for renters? I don't want to tell someone to use one that is not official open or safe....
Typically the Tourist Development Council, TDC (http://www.beachesofsouthwalton.com/) post the opened public accesses after they assess them for damage.
Anything close to the West side of Eastern Lake? South Gulf Street? If not, looks like Seaside may be the closest for the Eastern Lakers? Our pool maintenance gal said that she saw people using the one at S. Gulf at Eastern Lake today but I know from last week before Dennis that it was washed out since Ivan and there was a 3-4 ft drop (again before Dennis). Any status on that walk over would be great!
Will the county post anything official anywhere about what is open or closed for renters? I don't want to tell someone to use one that is not official open or safe....
The eastern lake access was boarded but last year a lot of people used that one because there's no bluff.
Yes the county will have a list. I expect the first list to be a walk on list since no walkovers survived. After Ivan they released a priority list telling us which ones would be rebuilt first.
Rather B. Paddlin
07-12-2005, 11:54 PM
Our renters have gone down the area next to the walkover behind Goatfeathers. Hard to get down. Almost impossible to get back up.
wetwilly
07-12-2005, 11:58 PM
Thanks for the info. Again, you guys are great. :clap_1: The TDC site says that beaches of SoWal are "closed". I understand that any remaining dunes are unsafe (and should not be walked on anyway at anytime) and the gulf front houses and condos are dangerous too but will they enforce the closing? In other words, will they kick people off of the beach if people go on them? If really closed and enforced, how long will they stay closed typically? BRSW website says that they are prepared to honor guests starting this week (7/16). Just want to make sure I tell my renters the straight scoop since they are driving 2 days to come down to SoWal.
geauxfl
07-13-2005, 12:02 AM
We still have no info on Hidden Dunes. By the looks of the photo on their site, their WO seemed very steep, anyone know? Anyone know of the damage there?
Thanks for the info. Again, you guys are great. :clap_1: The TDC site says that beaches of SoWal are "closed". I understand that any remaining dunes are unsafe (and should not be walked on anyway at anytime) and the gulf front houses and condos are dangerous too but will they enforce the closing? In other words, will they kick people off of the beach if people go on them? If really closed and enforced, how long will they stay closed typically? BRSW website says that they are prepared to honor guests starting this week (7/16). Just want to make sure I tell my renters the straight scoop since they are driving 2 days to come down to SoWal.
A lot of people were on the beaches today - well not a lot comapred to a normal July day.
They are CTA for liability reasons and yes there is some real danger. Also there were some septic tanks uncovered here and there so they want the water to clear for a few days before allowing swimming.
sunsetdunes
07-13-2005, 07:29 AM
The county park at Inlet Beach at Orange Street has lots of parking and about a 10 foot drop with a ladder that people are using. it may be boarded off by the county.
Rosemary Beach has startes repairs on the central WO at western green and should be done in a few days.
Our house is on South Wall Street in Inlet Beach, about a block from Rosemary. After Hurricane Ivan, the closest access to us that was restored quickly was at Rosemary Beach Eastern Green. If anyone knows when that will be restored, I would be interested in knowing.
My neighbor, who lives in Inlet Beach, reported to me that currently the only safe public access at Inlet Beach is at the end of South Walton Lakeshore, because there is no dune there (so they never had a walkover), but there is no parking there. The closest parking is at South Orange Street, but there are not very many spaces. (Several are handicapped spaces.)
Here is a map that we placed on our web site to help our renters.
http://www.sunsetdunesgetaway.com/beachaccessmap.htm
Janet
Passatfish
07-13-2005, 07:40 AM
How far is the beach access for the Cottages at camp Creek?
Sea Turtle
07-13-2005, 08:06 AM
Anything close to the West side of Eastern Lake? South Gulf Street? If not, looks like Seaside may be the closest for the Eastern Lakers? Our pool maintenance gal said that she saw people using the one at S. Gulf at Eastern Lake today but I know from last week before Dennis that it was washed out since Ivan and there was a 3-4 ft drop (again before Dennis). Any status on that walk over would be great!
Sadly- there is NO PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS FROM EASTERN LAKE RD
The 2 public accesses, at Ramsgate and at Eastern Lake on Gulf Dr are both CLOSED.
PLEASE do not try to use them. There are gulf front homes near them that have sustained serious damage (even if you don't see it) They will be further damaged by people illegally walking to the beach through their property. It was difficult to keep people off the dunes before, now it will be even harder. Already last night there was a family trampling one home's damaged vegetation to get to the beach, then let their kids play in what was left of the dunes! :bang:
The HOA at Summer's Edge is directing the owners and guests and others in the area to use the Lakewood Drive Beach Access. This is off Lakewood Drive just to the east of the lake. It is open.
This is a temporary condition! The accesses will be rebuilt soon and it will again be easy to reach the beautiful emerald water. :clap_1:
For now, educate your guests and neighbors. This will help keep them safe, the homes safe and avoid any unhappy confrontations with the sherriff who has been notified to remove trespassers who may be endangering themselves or the homes along the coast.
jamesc09
07-13-2005, 08:41 AM
Is it correct then that the access @ Lakewood Dr. and Beachside Villas is usable and open?
JC
Smiling JOe
07-13-2005, 08:48 AM
[QUOTE=wetwilly]Anything close to the West side of Eastern Lake? South Gulf Street? If not, looks like Seaside may be the closest for the Eastern Lakers? Our pool maintenance gal said that she saw people using the one at S. Gulf at Eastern Lake today but I know from last week before Dennis that it was washed out since Ivan and there was a 3-4 ft drop (again before Dennis). Any status on that walk over would be great!
QUOTE]
Sadly- there is NO PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS FROM EASTERN LAKE RD
The 2 public accesses, at Ramsgate and at Eastern Lake on Gulf Dr are both CLOSED.
PLEASE do not try to use them. There are gulf front homes near them that have sustained serious damage (even if you don't see it) They will be further damaged by people illegally walking to the beach through their property. It was difficult to keep people off the dunes before, now it will be even harder. Already last night there was a family trampling one home's damaged vegetation to get to the beach, then let their kids play in what was left of the dunes! :bang:
...
This is a temporary condition! The accesses will be rebuilt soon and it will again be easy to reach the beautiful emerald water. :clap_1:
For now, educate your guests and neighbors. This will help keep them safe, the homes safe and avoid any unhappy confrontations with the sherriff who has been notified to remove trespassers.
Sea Turtle, I feel for you. I wonder where you can buy razor wire to keep those folks out? I guess the Bay Front properties, which usually fair well if not built on the ground, will soon become the hottest commodity in real estate. Plus, no one tramples through your yard to get to the Bay.
RiverOtter
07-13-2005, 08:52 AM
I posted picks somewhere in all of those photos. It was a 15'drop.
Base Jumping? :biggrin:
Sea Turtle
07-13-2005, 08:58 AM
[QUOTE=Sea Turtle]
Sea Turtle, I feel for you. I wonder where you can buy razor wire to keep those folks out? I guess the Bay Front properties, which usually fair well if not built on the ground, will soon become the hottest commodity in real estate. Plus, no one tramples through your yard to get to the Bay.
Thank you, Smiling Joe. (for ALL you do! :clap_1: )
We don't want to appear mean but it is a fine line to walk between keeping folks happy and keeping our homes safe!
gotothebeachmom
07-13-2005, 08:59 AM
Base Jumping? :biggrin:
That's a good plan for the trip down.:lol: What about the trip back up though? :eek:
VJM123
07-13-2005, 09:05 AM
We are coming down the 2nd week of August. We stay off 30A at Summer's Edge - Amazing Place. My question is this: will the beaches and businesses be back to some sort of normalicy or should we reschedule our trip?
I'm still waiting from the property owner on how the house held up.
Thanks from St. Louis
We are coming down the 2nd week of August. We stay off 30A at Summer's Edge - Amazing Place. My question is this: will the beaches and businesses be back to some sort of normalicy or should we reschedule our trip?
I'm still waiting from the property owner on how the house held up.
Thanks from St. Louis
Yes, everything is basically normal now except beach accesses.
Camp Creek Kid
07-13-2005, 09:26 AM
How far is the beach access for the Cottages at camp Creek?
Walton Lakeshore at Inlet Beach is about a 5 min. drive east; Lakewood Drive is about a 5 min. drive west.
kareshack
07-13-2005, 10:06 AM
Hi we are staying at seagrove beach on Periwinkle Lane- does anyone know anything about access here. We are coming and will have a blast regardless- but this would just kill my curiosity
beachbunny
07-13-2005, 10:42 AM
If anyone knows the best access in blue mountain beach ,it would be appreciated.I am afraid to just go down the hill where the public access was.
If anyone knows the best access in blue mountain beach ,it would be appreciated.I am afraid to just go down the hill where the public access was.
There is not one in old BMB, you will need to go east or west to find the closest one. Grayton or Dune Allen.
JustBeachy
07-13-2005, 10:55 AM
Yep..we're here, and the best access is Dune Allen or Grayton. And be prepared to walk a ways! We had kids sliding down what was left of someones bluff to get to the beach last night :bang:
I sat out there until they came back up and patiently explained why that wasn't a good idea. I was gifted with the middle finger salute. :roll:
Our neighbors directly across the street lost a great deal of sod and their back yard, but the foundation of the house is secure..the house on the other side of the beach access is not that luck, and my 'dream house' (the $4.5 million green stucco) will probably have to be condemned..it looks bad!! :(
Still, I'm glad to be back 'home'!
beachbunny
07-13-2005, 11:58 AM
This may be a problem ,my dad is elderly and has a defribulator .He can't walk very far,and this is his first trip to the ocean since my mother passed away last year.We may need to rethink this if there is no close beach access. :(
sunsetdunes
07-13-2005, 12:29 PM
Walton Lakeshore at Inlet Beach is about a 5 min. drive east; Lakewood Drive is about a 5 min. drive west.
Just remember there is no parking at South Walton Lakeshore. :eek:
Camp Creek Kid
07-13-2005, 03:26 PM
Just remember there is no parking at South Walton Lakeshore. :eek:
Sorry. You are correct. How about a 10 min. bike ride?
steeleing1
07-13-2005, 03:40 PM
Just heard from Seaside's head of security that the one open beach access (behind Roly Poly) will only be open to Seaside homeowners and registered guests.
sunsetdunes
07-13-2005, 05:51 PM
And here is the notice of when the beaches "officially" reopen.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sara Comander
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: FW: Hurricane Dennis News Release 25 Please note correction
Correction: The beaches are reopening on Thursday, July 14, 2005
Sara Comander
Public Information Coordinator
Events Coordinator
312 College Avenue, Unit B
DeFuniak Springs, Fl 32435
(850) 892-8065, ext 262 (EOC)
Fax: (850) 892-8069 (EOC)
Email: comsara@co.walton.fl.us
Office phone: 850-892-8530
irish9697
07-13-2005, 08:33 PM
We arrive on the 16th at Seashore Village, that's the east side of Seagrove, just before the 30A/Eastern Lake Road turn. Any idea on the best beach access for us? Will we need to drive to Seaside? And, if we did that, would they let us on there? Might there be something closer? I am more familiar with western Seagrove/Seaside than the east side.
I am so excited, though! We were there in May but since we knew we were coming back in July, we didn't say our proper "goodbye for a year" to the area...so, I'm dying for The Seagrove Village Market Cafe, Goatfeather's, Shades, Pickles, bike rides, long walks on the path, the Red Bar...
I will continue checking this site, Seaside's site, and the TDC's site, but any help would be greatly appreciated!
By the way, I am thrilled at Emily's supposed path. Don't get me wrong, I adore the Yucatan Peninsula, but I am just so thrilled that she's supposedly not headed this way. I hope she dies out quickly and causes minimal harm. Statistically, I know we should be safe for a while, but obviously Dennis proved those statistics wrong...
We arrive on the 16th at Seashore Village, that's the east side of Seagrove, just before the 30A/Eastern Lake Road turn. Any idea on the best beach access for us? Will we need to drive to Seaside? And, if we did that, would they let us on there? Might there be something closer? I am more familiar with western Seagrove/Seaside than the east side.
I am so excited, though! We were there in May but since we knew we were coming back in July, we didn't say our proper "goodbye for a year" to the area...so, I'm dying for The Seagrove Village Market Cafe, Goatfeather's, Shades, Pickles, bike rides, long walks on the path, the Red Bar...
I will continue checking this site, Seaside's site, and the TDC's site, but any help would be greatly appreciated!
By the way, I am thrilled at Emily's supposed path. Don't get me wrong, I adore the Yucatan Peninsula, but I am just so thrilled that she's supposedly not headed this way. I hope she dies out quickly and causes minimal harm. Statistically, I know we should be safe for a while, but obviously Dennis proved those statistics wrong...
For the next couple of weeks I feel pretty sure that access will be limited to walk on spots. Except for the private walkovers that had relatively minor damage and/or can move quickly with materials and labor.
After Ivan, people made their own accesses by climbing down a few feet or more, or cutting through beside accesses, etc. Seaside should be fine as they are pretty laid back and have never been harsh with visitors, whether you're staying there or not.
The accesses at Fort Panic in Dune Allen and Ed Walline in Santa Rosa Beach have plenty of parking and are walk on beside the walkover.
Don't forget about the State parks.
PrincessKel
07-13-2005, 11:40 PM
We are staying in West Seagrove, 1 block from Seaside... where is the best/safest beach access :confused:
So very excited to be there on Saturday!! :clap_1:
Thanks for all the great information everyone has provided.
We are staying in West Seagrove, 1 block from Seaside... where is the best/safest beach access :confused:
So very excited to be there on Saturday!! :clap_1:
Thanks for all the great information everyone has provided.
At Seaside behind Roly Poly if you want to walk or bike, otherwise there will be several you can drive to.
Open Public Beach Access Points as of 7/13/05:
Inlet Beach Drive (one block east of Orange St.)
Lakewood
Sugar Dunes
Grayton
Ed Walline
Dune Allen
Walton Lake Shore Dr. ( Eastern Lake)
WHAT NOW?
Access to the beach:
Since one of the biggest concerns is access to the beach, the TDC is approaching an existing contractor to expedite repairs to dune walkovers. Regional beach accesses will be repaired first. Repairs will be limited to stairs only. ADA ramps can not be repaired at this time due to the extensive vertical erosion, which prohibits construction. Miramar Beach Access will not be rebuilt until after the upcoming renourishment project slated to begin this fall.
In the meantime, we will be directing visitors and residents to accesses that do no require a walkover to reach the beach including Grayton, Ed Walline, Dune Allen, and Walton Lake Shore Drive at Eastern Lake.
We understand this is not an ideal scenario, however, living in a coastal community we must be prepared for the impacts of Mother Nature. We ask for your support in guiding visitors to appropriate beach accesses, while we work diligently to repair walkovers.
PrincessKel
07-14-2005, 07:06 AM
At Seaside behind Roly Poly if you want to walk or bike, otherwise there will be several you can drive to.
:biggrin: Thanks so much! We know exactly where the Roly Poly is. I am SOOOOOO excited!
jennifer
07-14-2005, 08:48 AM
:biggrin: Thanks so much! We know exactly where the Roly Poly is. I am SOOOOOO excited!
The shape I am in I feel like a "roly poly" :floor: so that will be easy to remember.
Princesskel and I will be the ones with the bigges grins as well!
SEAPRIZE! Jen
beachma
07-14-2005, 10:28 AM
Is there a map of Seagrove that shows the beach accesses by name...even after 15 years of trips to the area...we still get confused! :confused:
physes
07-14-2005, 10:56 AM
I read somewhere on this board that Seaside security had said that only Seaside owners and registered guests will be able to use the Seaside access?
Does anyone know if that it so. :confused:
Paula
07-14-2005, 11:11 AM
I read somewhere on this board that Seaside security had said that only Seaside owners and registered guests will be able to use the Seaside access?
Does anyone know if that it so. :confused:
I've heard that the one beach access behind Roly Poly is officially a public access, but that's only by rumor. Perhaps some of the locals can clarify this.
Beach Girl
07-14-2005, 11:17 AM
Is there a map of Seagrove that shows the beach accesses by name...even after 15 years of trips to the area...we still get confused! :confused:
Good idea!
OhioBeachBum
07-14-2005, 12:16 PM
Miramar Beach Access will not be rebuilt until after the upcoming renourishment project slated to begin this fall.
Any idea whether the access across from GWE (http://www.destin-condo.com/GulfWindsEast.htm) is included in the above? I'm not sure whether this location is considered Miramar or Seascape or in between. I know the structure (in the picture) was blown away. Camco (who manage property) person told me on phone yesterday they were replacing structure (with a temporary) PDQ - but then she wasn't on site. Sister-in-law lives further east inland, but couldn't check 'cause 98 in that area was still closed, so I don't know how bad off that beach area is - personal risk type home structure damage issues east & west of the accces point - so I don't even know if this (above) is a stoopid question or not. :blink:
TooFarTampa
07-14-2005, 01:32 PM
Anyone know if the Rosemary Beach walkover is technically a public access, even if they don't want you to know that? I know people can't park there or use the pools, but I've heard the access itself is public and was wondering how to find out if that is true.
Is there a map of Seagrove that shows the beach accesses by name...even after 15 years of trips to the area...we still get confused! :confused:
click here for Beach Access Map pdf (http://sowal.com/beachaccess.pdf)
Just_In_Thyme
07-14-2005, 05:07 PM
I just got back from Seaside. They have posted that the walkoveris for Seaside residents and guests only. They had a couple of guys posted there, but no one said anything to us when we walked down.
irish9697
07-14-2005, 05:38 PM
According to Garrett Realty, there should be a walkover up at Seashore Circle in East Seagrove by Saturday.
Snapper Grabber
07-14-2005, 10:53 PM
Seaside does have security posted at the access behind Roly Poly and will only let owners and renters use this access. It seems to me that this is a time when we all should pull together and share rather than be a stingy gut. Even though I do not reside in Seaside, I own a home nearby and patronize all Seaside restaurants and shops.
beachma
07-14-2005, 11:45 PM
click here for Beach Access Map pdf (http://sowal.com/beachaccess.pdf)
Thanks sooooooooooooooooooooooooo much Kurt! What a great map! You're the best!!!!!!! :wub:
beachbunny
07-15-2005, 12:00 AM
We are still coming,and we are staying in Blue mountain beach area.I guess the best access would be at grayton?We do have until the 23rd ,I know things will improve.Everyone has voted and we still want to go to this paradise in any condition. :bow:
Paula
07-15-2005, 06:33 AM
click here for Beach Access Map pdf (http://sowal.com/beachaccess.pdf)
Thanks, Kurt. I saw that Inlet beach is a regional access which is great for people on the eastern side of 30A. Can anyone tell me about the Inlet beach access? Reasonable parking and bathrooms? We'll see for ourselves in a few days, but it's good to get a preview if possible. It will be interesting to explore the different open beach accesses next week when we're there. (We usually don't do as much exploring...).
Thanks.
We are still coming,and we are staying in Blue mountain beach area.I guess the best access would be at grayton?We do have until the 23rd ,I know things will improve.Everyone has voted and we still want to go to this paradise in any condition. :bow:
:cool: Grayton to the east or Gulfview Heights or Ed Walline to the west.
Thanks, Kurt. I saw that Inlet beach is a regional access which is great for people on the eastern side of 30A. Can anyone tell me about the Inlet beach access? Reasonable parking and bathrooms? We'll see for ourselves in a few days, but it's good to get a preview if possible. It will be interesting to explore the different open beach accesses next week when we're there. (We usually don't do as much exploring...).
Thanks.
Inlet Beach access is really a small park with lots of parking. Don't forget the State Parks.
sunshine
07-15-2005, 08:52 AM
Good morning,
What a good map - did you find it on-line, or did you purchase it from the courthouse and scan it?
Also, is it a reasonable assumption that any and all of the accesses on this map are public?
Have a great day!
:D
Good morning,
What a good map - did you find it on-line, or did you purchase it from the courthouse and scan it?
Also, is it a reasonable assumption that any and all of the accesses on this map are public?
Have a great day!
:D
I got it from the TDC. It is a map of public accesses which should be used with the list of open accesses as updated on this thread's first post.
I also have a text list with lat. and long. coordinates if anyone needs to find them by GPS.
Shutters
07-15-2005, 09:04 AM
Yesterday I drove around checking all the "legal" access points. At Seaside they have this sign and a college kid checking to see what house you are staying in. I just blurted out the first Seaside cottage that came to mind and walked on down, but that probably wouldn't work with Mom, Dad, the 3 kids and all their beach stuff. AND he did have a little black ring binder with names and cottages with him.
I find the sign hysterical. "Due to the fragile nature of the dunes..." Give me a break, what dunes? How about "due to that money we spent hiring a bulldozer and the truck loads of sand we dumped to make a ramp, beach access will only be allowed to the owners and guest who paid exhorbitant prices to stay at Seaside." Oh the irony of it all. Feels a little like first class on the Titanic -- in times of crisis you really see people's true colors.
BTW, I have found several "illegal" access points. One where someone has nailed a ladder to what's left of the walkover. The slope down to the ladder is very slippery with sand and it's only a matter of time before someone slips and falls. I would not recommend. Another one where someone tired a nylon line to the old structure and has created a path down through the drop off. This one is pretty easy to use.
No matter what, people are going to find their way down to the beach. That's why the TDC MUST get on the case. To my way of thinking they should be out there today and all weekend nailing boards and rebuilding. With two crews they should be able to patch up at least 4 walk overs a week, wouldn't you think?
Any word from the TDC on this?
Shutters.
Any word from the TDC on this?
Shutters.
Thanks for the info. ;-)
If, as you say, no matter what, people are going to find their way down to the beach - should we clean the beaches before fostering access or the other way around?
Just_In_Thyme
07-15-2005, 09:21 AM
I have to agree with you on Seaside. It seems like at times like these they would be a little more open to helping out their neighbors. They sure don't have a problem when we walk over and eat at their restaurants or shop in the stores. I have to say it is quite disappointing. I heard from my rental agency that the county was looking at putting in temp. ramps like the one in Seaside in several areas. Who knows.
Oldtimer
07-15-2005, 09:29 AM
Now, that's just plain tacky of Seaside! :confused:
Shutters
07-15-2005, 09:34 AM
Thanks for the info. ;-)
If, as you say, no matter what, people are going to find their way down to the beach - should we clean the beaches before fostering access or the other way around?
I think right now the biggest danger is getting down to the beach. Seriously, someone is going to get hurt from one of these make shift walkovers. And when people stand on the top of the drop off and see others down on the beach, they look to how they got there, legally or illegally. It's the "they did it, so I can do it" mentality.
Honestly, I'm surpised at how little debris there is on the beach, at least here in Seagrove. I know that's not true all along 30-A, but here it's really no more than a bunch of seaweed and an ocasional chunk of something. Much, much less than Ivan.
kathydwells
07-15-2005, 09:35 AM
Thanks for the info. ;-)
If, as you say, no matter what, people are going to find their way down to the beach - should we clean the beaches before fostering access or the other way around?
Clean the beaches first!!!!!
Travel2Much
07-15-2005, 09:45 AM
In Seaside's defense, I was over there yesterday (patronizing their businesses) and saw the bad dune damage and the sign. First time I have ever seen anything remotely saying "stay out" there in over a decade of visiting. Given the dune damage and beach damage, I can understand their desire to hunker down. Like everyone, they have a responsibility first to their guests and owners, who are going to be forking over yet another pretty penny to fix things. Everyone in Seagrove would be at their beach (with the added risk of more dune and beach damage and of course the trash) if the access were open.
Not nice, but understandable. Hope it is just a temporary measure. They have been so nice over the years.
aquaticbiology
07-15-2005, 10:08 AM
just downloaed noaa aerial pics for sampling sites - thanks for the link (ther damage thread)- all look quite normal - dont build for 1/8 mile from the edge and leave the beach replenishment/scrapeing dune building to mother nature - hawaii beautiful but turtle tagging very hard work - miss white even gray sand - see yall in one more very long week
Paula
07-15-2005, 10:27 AM
Inlet Beach access is really a small park with lots of parking. Don't forget the State Parks.
The state parks are fantastic (Grayton Beach State Park) but I'm not sure there's access. If there's access to the state parks, we'll try those as well. Where are the ones with access right now (if you know this)?
thanks!
beachbunny
07-15-2005, 10:27 AM
Grayton to the east or Gulfview Heights or Ed Walline to the west.
Thanks Kurt ,and the map comes in very handy also. :D
The state parks are fantastic (Grayton Beach State Park) but I'm not sure there's access. If there's access to the state parks, we'll try those as well. Where are the ones with access right now (if you know this)?
thanks!
Topsail Hill has walk on. I'll check on the status of the others. Eden State Gardens on the bayou in Point Washington is a must see.
Paula
07-15-2005, 12:21 PM
Topsail Hill has walk on. I'll check on the status of the others. Eden State Gardens on the bayou in Point Washington is a must see.
Thanks, if I can get the kids away from the pool, we'll have a lot of fun exploring. I'll tempt them with food and restaurants. I am truly looking forward to exploring more -- it's too easy to get comfortable in one's own part of SoWal and one's favorite spots and never explore the other parts of the area! This is particularly true of those of us who don't live there or get there as often as we'd like.
Cork On the Ocean
07-15-2005, 12:25 PM
Rosemary Beach western green at the end of main street - Steps are done and beachwalk IS OPEN!!!!
kareshack
07-15-2005, 02:29 PM
Kurt- do you happen to know anything about beach access for periwinkle lane/ seagrove beach west? I will be there on Sunday and we were just curious. Thank you for all of your help.
karrie
Topsail Hill has walk on. I'll check on the status of the others. Eden State Gardens on the bayou in Point Washington is a must see.
All the parks are open - Grayton SP walkovers are gone but they have walk on access through the dunes.
They are working in Topsail now and they have walk on.
Deer Lake has no access but you can walk down the very long boardwalk to the gulf through the awesome dunes for sightseeing.
Kurt- do you happen to know anything about beach access for periwinkle lane/ seagrove beach west? I will be there on Sunday and we were just curious. Thank you for all of your help.
karrie
I'm not sure where periwinkle lane is.
bhilyer
07-15-2005, 08:35 PM
Thanks for the Beach Access Map!
It will help a lot when trying to plan time out on the beach.
beachbunny
07-17-2005, 01:35 PM
Any news about water quality,and when swimming will be allowed?
Any news about water quality,and when swimming will be allowed?
The water is looking good. No change on flag conditions.
ssperry57
07-19-2005, 03:13 PM
Have you heard anything related to going in the water? Specifically, are you allowed to enter the water in Gulf Trace and Grayton Beach? Thanks, Scott
Camp Creek Kid
07-19-2005, 03:15 PM
The water is looking good. No change on flag conditions.
In case anyone missed this--yellow flags are now up. Kurt has posted this info elsewhere on the boards.
Shutters
07-19-2005, 04:22 PM
Any word from the TDC on when and where the rebuilding of walkovers will begin? I called them last Friday and was told they were in meetings with the DEP, county comish, etc. etc but they would be posting on their web site ASAP. Today still nothing. I know it's a government agency so things move slowly, but c'mon folks, let's get it going. I'd sure like to see crews out there rebuilding this week. Any signs of movement down there on the beach?
Beach Girl
07-19-2005, 05:04 PM
Does anyone know how far the Santa Clara access is from One Seagrove Place?
Just curious???
Any word from the TDC on when and where the rebuilding of walkovers will begin? I called them last Friday and was told they were in meetings with the DEP, county comish, etc. etc but they would be posting on their web site ASAP. Today still nothing. I know it's a government agency so things move slowly, but c'mon folks, let's get it going. I'd sure like to see crews out there rebuilding this week. Any signs of movement down there on the beach?
Keep your eye on the official notices thread.
http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=789
taylorj
07-20-2005, 10:52 PM
Does anyone know about the Ramsgate Beach Access? Are they even working on it?
Does anyone know about the Ramsgate Beach Access? Are they even working on it?
Do you mean Ramsgate townhomes behind Summer's Edge or Ramsgate at Camp Creek?
wetwilly
07-20-2005, 11:50 PM
Info from my renter in my house this week...is that the Ramsgate access west of Eastern Lake in front of Summer's Edge S/D, is not open and from what I heard it is not being worked on yet. They are going to have to stabalize the Ramsgate condos and other gulf front properties in that area to make it safe to use the access and then rebuild it.
Again, spoke to my renter tonight and he said that the county access at Eastern Lake at S. Gulf Rd is passable and being used by alot of people. Even though is was never rebuilt after Ivan since the mouth os Eastern Lake shifted west due to Ivan and other storms and rebuilding was not feasible. My renter said that people were using it and that with Eastern Lake opening out into the gulf that the kids were having fun playing in that area.
Beach Runner
07-21-2005, 10:39 AM
The water is looking good. No change on flag conditions.
Are the beaches and the Gulf clean enough for someone with a compromised immune system, such as someone with CMV? Someone I know with CMV is coming down next week and staying off Eastern Lake Road. I've heard there were septic tanks exposed in that area due to the severe damage to the beachfront properties there.
Are the beaches and the Gulf clean enough for someone with a compromised immune system, such as someone with CMV? Someone I know with CMV is coming down next week and staying off Eastern Lake Road. I've heard there were septic tanks exposed in that area due to the severe damage to the beachfront properties there.
All the water along the beaches has tested "good", which means no (normal levels) of bacteria. And - the Eatsern Lake outfall is closed to the Gulf now so there is no runoff anyhow.
Water Sampling Results (http://esetappsdoh.doh.state.fl.us/irm00beachwater/beachresults.aspx?county=Walton)
Seaside access at Roly Poly is no longer closed to the general public.
Eastern Lake access (on the east side of the outfall) has steps now and the outfall has been moved to the east by digging a new trough and piling up sand. It is easy to get to the beach there.
Makeshift steps have been erected at One Seagrove access.
Photos to come.
taylorj
07-21-2005, 01:35 PM
I am interested in Ramsgate at Camp Creek by Pelican Circle. Is that access open?
Just_In_Thyme
07-21-2005, 02:05 PM
What prompted Seaside to change their minds? Being a good neighbor or $$$?
beachma
07-21-2005, 02:33 PM
:clap_1: Thanks Kurt...I was going to ask about some recent photos. When you refer to the One Seagrove access...is that a public/neighborhood access or a private one for OSP?
Seaside access at Roly Poly is no longer closed to the general public.
Eastern Lake access (on the east side of the outfall) has steps now and the outfall has been moved to the east by digging a new trough and piling up sand. It is easy to get to the beach there.
Makeshift steps have been erected at One Seagrove access.
Photos to come.
Ocean Lover
07-21-2005, 03:07 PM
Seaside access at Roly Poly is no longer closed to the general public.
Eastern Lake access (on the east side of the outfall) has steps now and the outfall has been moved to the east by digging a new trough and piling up sand. It is easy to get to the beach there.
Makeshift steps have been erected at One Seagrove access.
Photos to come.
Is this near Beachwood Villas? We will be arriving in a few weeks. We don't mind driving to a beach access since that was the plan anyway as we are not staying on the beach. Grayton is on our favorite places so we plan on a couple of beach days there. Looking forward to more pics!
:clap_1: Thanks Kurt...I was going to ask about some recent photos. When you refer to the One Seagrove access...is that a public/neighborhood access or a private one for OSP?
Public - OSP has not repaired their own.
Is this near Beachwood Villas? We will be arriving in a few weeks. We don't mind driving to a beach access since that was the plan anyway as we are not staying on the beach. Grayton is on our favorite places so we plan on a couple of beach days there. Looking forward to more pics!
One Seagrove is near beachwood Villas although there may be one closer. It seems a lot of Walkovers are being pieced together. People are finding ways to get on the beach. :clap_1:
What prompted Seaside to change their minds? Being a good neighbor or $$$?
My guess would be they were concerned about a flood of people. But it looks like people are spreading out and finding ways to get to the beach.
Philip_Atlanta
07-21-2005, 03:53 PM
any more word on the access behind Goatfeathers? Still a 15' drop?
TooFarTampa
07-21-2005, 08:53 PM
For what it's worth, I talked to a Seacrest Beach official today who told me the contractor was supposed to have materials delivered today and begin building right away. She expects the Seacrest/Sunset Beach walkover will be finished by midweek. :clap_1:
luvthebeach
07-21-2005, 10:54 PM
Seaside access at Roly Poly is no longer closed to the general public.
Eastern Lake access (on the east side of the outfall) has steps now and the outfall has been moved to the east by digging a new trough and piling up sand. It is easy to get to the beach there.
Makeshift steps have been erected at One Seagrove access.
Photos to come.
So glad to hear about One Seagrove access!! Thank so much for the update....and for all you do! :clap_1:
any more word on the access behind Goatfeathers? Still a 15' drop?
I haven't been over there - I'll try to get by there tomorrow.
So glad to hear about One Seagrove access!! Thank so much for the update....and for all you do! :clap_1:
You're welcome :D
http://www.sowal.com/050721-131.jpg
Beach Girl
07-21-2005, 11:18 PM
So glad to hear about One Seagrove access!! Thank so much for the update....and for all you do! :clap_1:
Me too! Thanks for the update...Now we won't have to walk a mile or more to get to an access! You're the best!
amylouky
07-22-2005, 12:05 PM
Just got off the phone with our rental company.. she told me that the access at Beachside condos will be finished next week.
Very good news!
beachluvr
07-22-2005, 01:35 PM
You're welcome :D
http://www.sowal.com/050721-131.jpg
Thanks for the info. Where is this in relation to Beachcrest?
geauxfl
07-22-2005, 02:48 PM
The flags are GREEN !!!!!!!!!! Just checked for the latest update and they are GREEN, GREEN, GREEN !!! :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1:
Ocean Lover
07-22-2005, 03:14 PM
The flags are GREEN !!!!!!!!!! Just checked for the latest update and they are GREEN, GREEN, GREEN !!! :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1:
Good news! :D This got me thinking... year round, what percentage of the time would you say the flags were green? Estimating of course.
Seahorse
07-22-2005, 03:41 PM
Seaside access at Roly Poly is no longer closed to the general public.
Eastern Lake access (on the east side of the outfall) has steps now and the outfall has been moved to the east by digging a new trough and piling up sand. It is easy to get to the beach there.
Makeshift steps have been erected at One Seagrove access.
Photos to come.
Awesome! Kurt, I only know you from this website, but thanks so much for all the great information you post. It is incredibly helpful. It was such a landfall find, this message board. :bow: We are back there next week for a while so it's great to know what's happening before we get there! linda
Seahorse
07-22-2005, 03:46 PM
The flags are GREEN !!!!!!!!!! Just checked for the latest update and they are GREEN, GREEN, GREEN !!! :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1:
Oh, and this just made my entire week!!!!!! My little four year old boy is going to be so happy! Thanks again for all the info!
Thanks for the info. Where is this in relation to Beachcrest?
A couple of blocks I think.
mchames
07-22-2005, 05:26 PM
We are heading down tomorrow 7/23 and are staying in the Old Florida Cottages. Can anyone tell me where the closest open beach access is? From the map our owners sent us it looks like the one near Goatfeathers is the closest. Is that access open yet? Thanks for your help. I have to go finishing packing now! :lol:
Thanks.
Mary
dmiller29
07-23-2005, 12:17 PM
This site is wonderful!
We've never vacationed at Seagrove until this year. We check in on Saturday, July 30, and are staying in Seashore Village. Can you tell me if the beach access for this community is open?
Thank you very much.
kareshack
07-24-2005, 10:00 PM
We just returned from the beach today and I have to put fears to rest, the beach is open and great. They built 3 beach access while we were there for one week and we got up and down all day and every day. We stayed in seagrove west next door to the beachcrest condos- there was an access at our neighbors house and they were kind enough to let us use it. They built a public access our last day and two more were going up down the way. The access is on Montgomery and Dothan and it is probably up and running now. Have a great time- we sure did.
Our guests this week at our rental house in Seagrove Beach said that they have been able to get to the beach via the Seaside access without any problem.
We spent the afternoon on the beach in Grayton and it was wonderful. White sand and clear water!
Jayne Graves
07-25-2005, 06:29 AM
how are the beaches at "Dunes of Seagrove" does anyone know?
I just wanted to say "Thanks" to Beaches of South Walton. We have just returned from our best vacation of our lives! We stayed in Seagrove Beach. The weather was great! The water was a little rough, but we still had fun without incident. Our boardwalk was not repaired, but our neighbor's was and they graciously let us use it. Many boardwalks were being rebuilt while we were there and lots of sand was being replinished. Everything was wonderful, beautiful, fantastic! We saw dolphins, rays, jellys, but no sharks.. If you have a vacation planned, I suggest that you go ahead with your plans. We are already looking forward to next year!
Ocean Lover
07-25-2005, 10:20 AM
Glad you had a good vacation! We have 19 days and counting until we arrive in SoWal. I don't think the August heat will bother us too much with the weather we've been having lately up here. 95 degress today in Ohio. :oops:
irish9697
07-25-2005, 01:38 PM
dmiller29, We just returned Saturday from a week at Seashore Village (we stayed in Bella Breeze on Seashore Circle) and our walkover was up and ready for us by our first night there, Saturday the 16th, so you are all set! Have a great time!!!
dmiller29
07-25-2005, 03:16 PM
:clap_1:
IRISH9697
Thank you so much! I'm ready to hit the road!
rskim70
07-25-2005, 03:40 PM
Is the Roly Poly access the only beach access currently open in Seaside? Thanks.
Suncat
07-25-2005, 10:24 PM
Is the Roly Poly access the only beach access currently open in Seaside? Thanks.
I just returned home from 10 days in Seaside about 30 minutes ago! Yes, as of today, the only access is a "sand ramp" behind Roly-Poly. A Seaside employee is sitting there with a clipboard off and on, but he seems to only be making sure everyone gets up and down the ramp OK. Some trucks have gone down with boards that look like they are to be used to rebuild the steps.
how are the beaches at "Dunes of Seagrove" does anyone know?
I haven't been over there since right after the storm, but they were looking good then. Their walkover was in pretty good shape so they might have it repaired by now. People were using the walk on access on the adjacent east side.
rskim70
07-26-2005, 08:03 AM
I just returned home from 10 days in Seaside about 30 minutes ago! Yes, as of today, the only access is a "sand ramp" behind Roly-Poly. A Seaside employee is sitting there with a clipboard off and on, but he seems to only be making sure everyone gets up and down the ramp OK. Some trucks have gone down with boards that look like they are to be used to rebuild the steps.
Thanks, Suncat. Looking at the NOAA satellite photos that were posted earlier, it looked like the pensacola walkover had been repaired as well. Thanks again for the info.
Thanks, Suncat. Looking at the NOAA satellite photos that were posted earlier, it looked like the pensacola walkover had been repaired as well. Thanks again for the info.
Nope. Those aerials were from a few days after Dennis.
any more word on the access behind Goatfeathers? Still a 15' drop?
No - a cut through the dunes on the east side of the missing walkover has been created from foot traffic.
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/1/050726004.jpg
Suncat
07-26-2005, 04:02 PM
[QUOTE=rskim70]Thanks, Suncat. Looking at the NOAA satellite photos that were posted earlier, it looked like the pensacola walkover had been repaired as well. Thanks again for the info.[/QUOTE
I only saw the sand ramp...You could walk up to the top of the pavillions that overlook the beach, but there were barriers where the steps used to be. The beach was a little shocking to see if you have been there before, but the water was beautiful and after getting down there it was fine. Weather was HOT with only very brief thundershowers occasionally.
amylouky
07-28-2005, 03:39 PM
Anyone know if Beachside condos access is back up? Our rental agency said it was supposed to be done this week...
Cork On the Ocean
07-28-2005, 03:39 PM
Beachwalk for Seacrest Beach is open!
gotothebeachmom
07-28-2005, 03:43 PM
Beachwalk for Seacrest Beach is open!
:clap_1: Thanks!
TooFarTampa
07-28-2005, 04:00 PM
Beachwalk for Seacrest Beach is open!
I second those thanks!!! :clap_1: :biggrin:
SoWalSally
07-28-2005, 05:59 PM
The Board of County Commissioners dealt with ongoing beach issues at the July 26 meeting.
The board approved the repair of 21 of the 56 beach accesses destroyed during Hurricane Dennis, which made landfall July10.
“We need to get 20 boardwalks up to get visitors to the beach,” Titus said.
Titus explained the necessity of the repairs was due to a large number of properties that cannot be rented without beach access. Titus estimated the repairs will cost the county approximately $400,000.
Commissioner Cindy Meadows suggested sand as an alternative measure, considering the walkovers are damaged in every storm.
“To put compatible sand down is way, way expensive,” Titus responded.
Titus said the TDC would investigate alternative boardwalk technology for the future.
Beach Runner
07-28-2005, 06:03 PM
How much does a simple private (as opposed to the more substantial public access) beach walkover cost to build?
sarawind
07-28-2005, 09:58 PM
My neighbor replaced their simple stairway to the beach after Ivan to the tune of 16 thousand dollars. House next to theirs was 14 thousand. My Sister in Sand Cliffs subdivision paid even more. We were lucky as only the last section of our walkway needed to be replaced and it was around two thousand. Not so simple is it?
Beach Runner
07-28-2005, 10:12 PM
My neighbor replaced their simple stairway to the beach after Ivan to the tune of 16 thousand dollars. House next to theirs was 14 thousand. My Sister in Sand Cliffs subdivision paid even more. We were lucky as only the last section of our walkway needed to be replaced and it was around two thousand. Not so simple is it?
Wow! I can't believe they're that expensive.
Rather B. Paddlin
07-28-2005, 11:13 PM
Kurt,
Nice picture. That is Mr. and Mrs. Paddlin under the two green and white beach umbrellas. The water is just incredilble right now. It is as clear as I have ever seen it. Some visitors have added wood to the path to the sand.
tallard
07-30-2005, 11:08 AM
how are the beaches at "Dunes of Seagrove" does anyone know?
My family is coming down next Saturday from the Belleville area and we are staying at the dunes of seagrove. According to Resort Quest - beach access and beach service is operating at 100%. :cool:
groveral
07-31-2005, 08:28 PM
Any info on access across from Andalusia? If not open, any time known to re-open?
Thank you for all of this information....
Kim Smith
08-01-2005, 02:49 PM
Kurt,
Does anyone have any information on what acceses made the top 21 list and also an update as to which accesses are now complete?
Kurt,
Does anyone have any information on what acceses made the top 21 list and also an update as to which accesses are now complete?
I haven't seen a list but will look for one.
The official list of open accesses are in the first post of this thread and kept updated. Things are moving slowly, however there are more accesses than shown on the first post, just not rebuilt.
My family and Inlaws will be coming down to on Sunday (8-7-05) . We are staying at Blue Mountian Beach...We've never stayed there before. What is the current condition of beach access & the Blue Mountain Beach area in general?
Thanks.
Smiling JOe
08-03-2005, 10:42 AM
From http://partners.beachesofsouthwalton.com/Open_Beach_Access.asp
Open Beach Access Points as of 7/22/05:
• Dune Allen Regional Access: Located on 30-A; west of Oyster Lake at Fort Panick Rd.
• Ed Walline Regional Access: Located at the intersection of Hwy. 30-A and County Rd. 393.
• Grayton Beach Regional Access: Located at the end of DeFuniak Street in Grayton Beach.
• Inlet Access: Located at the end of Lakeshore Drive, one block east of Orange St.
• Walton Dunes: Located at the end of Beach Front Trail east of Eastern Lake adjacent
to Dunes of Seagrove.
• Sugar Dunes: Off of Sanroy Rd., east of Eastern Lake in Lakewood Community.
• Area east of Pompano Joe’s off Scenic Gulf Drive.
• Area east of Whale’s Tail off Scenic Gulf Drive.
From http://partners.beachesofsouthwalton.com/Open_Beach_Access.asp
Open Beach Access Points as of 7/22/05:
• Dune Allen Regional Access: Located on 30-A; west of Oyster Lake at Fort Panick Rd.
• Ed Walline Regional Access: Located at the intersection of Hwy. 30-A and County Rd. 393.
• Grayton Beach Regional Access: Located at the end of DeFuniak Street in Grayton Beach.
• Inlet Access: Located at the end of Lakeshore Drive, one block east of Orange St.
• Walton Dunes: Located at the end of Beach Front Trail east of Eastern Lake adjacent
to Dunes of Seagrove.
• Sugar Dunes: Off of Sanroy Rd., east of Eastern Lake in Lakewood Community.
• Area east of Pompano Joe’s off Scenic Gulf Drive.
• Area east of Whale’s Tail off Scenic Gulf Drive.
So can I assume that this means there is no access in Blue Mountain? I don't know the area that well.
So can I assume that this means there is no access in Blue Mountain? I don't know the area that well.
There is walk down access at the main access on hwy 83. there is a lot of construction and equipment there though. There are a few others nearby that are an easy drive or bike ride.
sarawind
08-03-2005, 02:24 PM
The public access to the beach is open by Mistral in Seacrest.
beachma
08-04-2005, 12:35 PM
Any new access rebuilt in Seagrove in the area close to One Seagrove Place or in the Seagrove area in general?
From http://partners.beachesofsouthwalton.com/Open_Beach_Access.asp
Open Beach Access Points as of 7/22/05:
• Dune Allen Regional Access: Located on 30-A; west of Oyster Lake at Fort Panick Rd.
• Ed Walline Regional Access: Located at the intersection of Hwy. 30-A and County Rd. 393.
• Grayton Beach Regional Access: Located at the end of DeFuniak Street in Grayton Beach.
• Inlet Access: Located at the end of Lakeshore Drive, one block east of Orange St.
• Walton Dunes: Located at the end of Beach Front Trail east of Eastern Lake adjacent
to Dunes of Seagrove.
• Sugar Dunes: Off of Sanroy Rd., east of Eastern Lake in Lakewood Community.
• Area east of Pompano Joe’s off Scenic Gulf Drive.
• Area east of Whale’s Tail off Scenic Gulf Drive.
luvthebeach
08-04-2005, 12:40 PM
Any new access rebuilt in Seagrove in the area close to One Seagrove Place or in the Seagrove area in general?
Temporary steps have been erected at One Seagrove. Check out this thread:
http://www.sowal.com/bb/showpost.php?p=11940&postcount=93
amylouky
08-04-2005, 10:55 PM
Can anyone tell me if the beach access at Beachside Condos has been rebuilt yet, or is at least in the process of rebuilding?
Ocean Lover
08-07-2005, 09:52 PM
Is there any construction going on? I haven't heard of any new walkovers for a while. Looks like we'll be driving. If we go to Grayton...what if better...the state park or walk on access?
bhilyer
08-07-2005, 10:18 PM
We just got back from staying in Seagrove. We were able to access the beach easily at the San Juan access. There is a cut in the dune to the left of the walkover with a rope for help getting up. Our four year old had no trouble going up or down. Actually, the kids thought it was cool.
If you would rather use stairs, the small neighborhood to the right has a walkover that has been repaired and we (the adults) used it, too. We didn't until one of the residents insisted. This was right there at the SanJuan access. There is some parking for cars and bicycles.
Smiling JOe
08-07-2005, 10:30 PM
We just got back from staying in Seagrove. We were able to access the beach easily at the San Juan access. There is a cut in the dune to the left of the walkover with a rope for help getting up. Our four year old had no trouble going up or down. Actually, the kids thought it was cool.
If you would rather use stairs, the small neighborhood to the right has a walkover that has been repaired and we (the adults) used it, too. We didn't until one of the residents insisted. This was right there at the SanJuan access. There is some parking for cars and bicycles.
Obviously Bhilyer has not been reading how pissed off everyone is at folks like her/him for helping to further damage property. :bang: (and thinks it is cute that her kids find it fun.):idontno: :twisted:
Wake up! or leave at once!
Maybe we can switch out the rope for razor wire. What do you think?:idontno: Would that make people use the stairs?
Ocean Lover
08-08-2005, 12:19 AM
Yikes, those dragonflies can really sting. I'm going to assume Bhilyer doesn't know about the dunes.(walking on them is extremly damaging, please look for other threads regarding the dunes) I think we could inform rather than berate. :nono1:
Thank you for your response Bhilyer...I'll be using a walkover...hopefully the San Juan one is close to us. Good to hear there's parking available there also.
Ocean Lover
08-08-2005, 12:32 AM
I just wanted to add one thing. I think it is awesome that SJ is so passionate about SoWal beaches and dunes. I just know there are a lot of ignorant tourists out there and if there's not a sign or a fence telling them to stay off then they are probably clueless. Being a really conscientious person myself, I would want to know. I would hate to unknowingly hurt the environment.
Smiling JOe
08-08-2005, 08:40 AM
Yikes, those dragonflies can really sting. I'm going to assume Bhilyer doesn't know about the dunes.(walking on them is extremly damaging, please look for other threads regarding the dunes) I think we could inform rather than berate. :nono1:
...
We've been informing for some time now. Some people just refuse to listen, and even signs will do them no good. They simply follow the "Dumb Masses" (don't read those two words too fast :D), as Neil Bortz says. Maybe Bhilyer will read my post and at least wake up enough to take notice of her actions. You see, razor wire just gives one a visual of how pissed I am :twisted:.
It sounds like you are trying to be very informed Ocean Lover. Your name alone says it all. You care about a place you love. Thanks!:D
OhioBeachBum
08-08-2005, 08:52 AM
Maybe we can switch out the rope for razor wire. What do you think?:idontno: Would that make people use the stairs?
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I can see it not taking long to develop a bit of an attitude relative to this. Picked trash & debris during dawn walks every morning while down there (maybe 20% debris and the rest people trash). Pretty disgusted with careless people at end of week. Folks wouldn't leave beer cans, plastic bottles, and other assorted crap in their yards (hopefully). Don't get why some feel beach is fair game.
Dunes though, that's maybe not a "mr. obvious" thing to some newbie visitors.
Something I noticed years back 1st time I crossed from US into Canada (Niagara area). Dramatic difference on Canada side - very noticible complete absence of roadside litter (dramatic compared to US side). Figured out why 'bout a 1/2 mile later when I saw the first of many "$500 fine for littering" signs (that was 30 years ago when 500 was a bit more substantial sum).
Maybe signs to educate (dunes) and to warn against the obvious (strewing one's trash about), but IMHO many people need some teeth in the warnings to keep their attention - maybe $1000 might be an attention-getter these days.
bhilyer
08-08-2005, 12:13 PM
Wow-I'm sorry. :oops: I have been reading the many posts and looking at the pictures here and I would never intentionally try to harm the beach. We have had a place in Texas since I was a little girl and I know how disheartening it can be to watch visitors trash your beach.
From pictures I had seen here, I thought that was an accepted temporary path, as many others were using it, and the stairs were private and were used only when we found it was okay.
Smiling Joe, the harshness was unexpected. You seem like a really nice guy. My husband and I were in shock and awe at the damage done to your beach and our thoughts and prayers went out to the owners of the beautiful homes, especially the ones that have been there for years and years. I think this area is wonderful and plan to come for many years, so we support any efforts to restore the beach (that includes returning and spending our money)
I hope you can come up with a system to educate visitors, especially first time visitors like us who are used to nothing but flat, wide beaches. But, I hope it's in a nicer way than "razors on a rope"...
amylouky
08-08-2005, 02:47 PM
Wow-I'm sorry. :oops: I have been reading the many posts and looking at the pictures here and I would never intentionally try to harm the beach. We have had a place in Texas since I was a little girl and I know how disheartening it can be to watch visitors trash your beach.
From pictures I had seen here, I thought that was an accepted temporary path, as many others were using it, and the stairs were private and were used only when we found it was okay.
Smiling Joe, the harshness was unexpected. You seem like a really nice guy. My husband and I were in shock and awe at the damage done to your beach and our thoughts and prayers went out to the owners of the beautiful homes, especially the ones that have been there for years and years. I think this area is wonderful and plan to come for many years, so we support any efforts to restore the beach (that includes returning and spending our money)
I hope you can come up with a system to educate visitors, especially first time visitors like us who are used to nothing but flat, wide beaches. But, I hope it's in a nicer way than "razors on a rope"...
I have to agree.. I think there's been SOME attempt at educating people, but obviously not nearly enough.. one of the agents AT OUR RENTAL COMPANY told us that there was a cut in the dune we could use to access the beach, if the beach walkover wasn't fixed yet. And didn't someone mention that at the wedding the other night in Grayton, there was a deputy there who did nothing about the people in the dunes?
If the word hasn't gotten around to all the residents and officials yet, it surely hasn't gotten to all of the tourists. Maybe a bit of patience, gentle reminders (not so gentle the second time), and a grassroots education program is in order?
I really think that the vast majority of beach visitors are willing to do whatever they can to preserve the beaches, if only they all knew what that was..
katie blue
08-08-2005, 04:40 PM
You're right Amy, with all the passion flying round, seems we could channel it into a little grass roots dune watch effort here. The turtle watch people have done that successfully. Maybe if the TDC could spare a few bucks for us to get some signs reproduced and allow us to store a repository of them at the HQ, we could have people come pick a few up and place them in their neighborhood dunes. (or maybe a local print shop could donate the printing?) I'd be happy to volunteer to design and prep the sign for print, and would certainly install some along 30a. I know we have plenty of "hands" between us for placing them, the only sticking issue right now would be the funds to have them printed. Just a thought.
bjc9153
08-08-2005, 05:11 PM
This is in reply to the beach access at Beachside Condos. I just got back from there Saturday night and the walkway was open when I left. However, the water was very murky and there was lots or debris and dirt on the beach (not its usual white sand by any means) and with the heavy rain Seagrove received Friday more beach erosion occurred and about two to three more feet of land eroded from Beachside Condos. This is very scary because so many condo conplexes (like Emerald Hill Condo Complex, Dune Villas, and Leeward II Complexes) are just hanging in the edge of the beach and to see more erosion occuring makes me worry that it won't be long until we won't see dirt and debris on the beach but entire beach condo conplex colapsed on the beach. Is anyone else worried about this and how can those buildings be saved.
amylouky
08-08-2005, 11:34 PM
This is in reply to the beach access at Beachside Condos. I just got back from there Saturday night and the walkway was open when I left. However, the water was very murky and there was lots or debris and dirt on the beach (not its usual white sand by any means) and with the heavy rain Seagrove received Friday more beach erosion occurred and about two to three more feet of land eroded from Beachside Condos. This is very scary because so many condo conplexes (like Emerald Hill Condo Complex, Dune Villas, and Leeward II Complexes) are just hanging in the edge of the beach and to see more erosion occuring makes me worry that it won't be long until we won't see dirt and debris on the beach but entire beach condo conplex colapsed on the beach. Is anyone else worried about this and how can those buildings be saved.
Hmm. Well, that's not great news.. we're headed down Friday. At least the walkway's open.. hopefully we'll be able to actually use it!
beachbuddy
08-09-2005, 11:18 AM
Does anyone know what the conditions for beach access are on Blue Mtn Beach Drive near Gulf Point Road? Specifically, at The Redfish house.
Smiling JOe
08-09-2005, 11:43 AM
Does anyone know what the conditions for beach access are on Blue Mtn Beach Drive near Gulf Point Road? Specifically, at The Redfish house.
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P8030025.JPG
I believe this is the closest, although illegal, access near Gulf Point Road. I am sure that Donna, one of the owners, would be pissed if she knew that people were destroying her property. I have PM'd her but I don't think she is logging in.
The access at CR 83 is the closest ligit public access at this time, and it is only another 100 meters away.
Smiling JOe
08-09-2005, 11:49 AM
Just received a PM from Donna, and she is greatly upset that people are doing this to her property. She is too kind to say so, so I will say it for her.
KEEP OUT! Donna would probably add, "please."
beachbuddy
08-09-2005, 12:13 PM
Thanks. I had seen that photo on the board earlier and agreed with those who said "what were they thinking?" I did not know where the photo was taken.
OhioBeachBum
08-09-2005, 12:17 PM
... "what were they thinking?" ...
Late for reality TV show and big bag of chitlins...
shakennotstirred
08-09-2005, 01:09 PM
Just received a PM from Donna, and she is greatly upset that people are doing this to her property. She is too kind to say so, so I will say it for her.
KEEP OUT! Donna would probably add, "please."
Does this mean SJ is getting a new ladder for his collection?
Miss Kitty
08-09-2005, 01:11 PM
Where are they going if they are climbing up the dune? I think they were overserved and the skinny one threw the keys and the others missed and now they are digging for them! BTW...who took this pic and what means were used to get their attention? Chips, coupons for McDonald's, or hopefully one of those air guns with biodegradeable ammo????
Smiling JOe
08-09-2005, 01:19 PM
Does this mean SJ is getting a new ladder for his collection?
She is too sweet to give me the okay, but, after receiving confirmation on her thoughts of the issue, the ladder may be gone tomorrow if I can work it into my schedule. :lol:
Smiling JOe
08-09-2005, 01:22 PM
Where are they going if they are climbing up the dune? I think they were overserved and the skinny one threw the keys and the others missed and now they are digging for them! BTW...who took this pic and what means were used to get their attention? Chips, coupons for McDonald's, or hopefully one of those air guns with biodegradeable ammo????
I will refrain from responding to overweight issues, but I took the photos just prior to yelling at them. They probably think I am just some crackhead that came out of nowhere.
Almost forgot to mention, that after a good 5 minutes on the ascent, they reached the summit, though exhausted from the climb.
luvthebeach
08-09-2005, 01:26 PM
[QUOTE=Sueshore]Where are they going if they are climbing up the dune? I think they were overserved and the skinny one threw the keys and the others missed and now they are digging for them!
what skinny one? :biggrin:
OhioBeachBum
08-09-2005, 02:02 PM
They probably think I am just some crackhead that came out of nowhere.
put foil on your head (http://zapatopi.net/afdb/) and rush toward such folk hollering crazy stuff [hmmm, second thought, you might need to wear kevlar to avoid occasional personal injury].
'nother possibility. approach with surgical mask, boots, and gloves. put sign in sand "DANGER! KEEP OFF! HIGH CONCENTRATIONS OF FLESH EATING BACTERIA."
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