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LissLane
07-11-2005, 05:58 PM
Quint - Are you asking about houses to the east or west of the public access at BMB? I'm not sure about the houses, but my family owns a unit in the Blue Mountain Villas/Blue Mountain Condos buildings. I've heard that of these 2 buildings (BMV/BMC) the building to the east is condemned and the one to the west is dangerously close to the edge.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 06:00 PM
Anyone know how Red Bar did? We are having a family reunion near there next weekend. From the way things sound, eveyone has done pretty well. Any new updates would be appreciated. We are going to be staying on High Dunes Drive (Gulf Trace). Looking forward to a relaxing weekend. :cool:
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7110113.JPG
I'm back on. :D

I am not going to read thru all of these post, and I know I will be repeating stuff. Here is the gist:

For those of you in SoWal, if you had a Gulf-Front home, bless your heart. If you are 1 lot away, you are probably okay, and very close to becoming Gulf-front. The dunes were pounded out to sea. I hit the beach today before sunrise to do a little chicking. I have not seen one complete walkover today. I just returned from enjoying a quiet, people-wise, afternoon at the beach. I have visited the beaches from Seagrove One to Destiny by the Sea(Destin). I have many photos to share at a later time, and many that I will not share. I did not have one clear photo from yesterday due to the wind shaking me around. For those of you who asked me before yesterday to check on your home, you are good to go, although Rather B Paddlin does have a sheet of plywood on the ground. (Rather B, your house looks very clean). Donna, I saw a white truck at your place today, maybe rental company? Your house looks okay, but there is water standing in your neighbors yard. You may have had some water come in under your door. I think you should check it out. Otherwise, you look great.

The only place I found to enter the Beach was Grayton Beach. Western Lake is like a class II rapid this morning, but has slowed to a class I this afternoon.


Thankfully, not much to report for damage unless you live Gulf-front or built on ground floor on low lying area around water. Gulf Trace and Blue Mtn Bch have serious home damage gulf front. Adagio looks fine. Dune Allen, you should not rebuild on the Gulf. Destin - power out and much damage on old 98. Road is blocked off east of Captain Daves on the Gulf.

I am heading out of town tomorrow and probably will not be able to post many photos until later. Glad all are okay. I could have used a bit of help today, pulling in crap off the beach. When you get here, wear your shoes to avoid nasty injuries from buried objects.

monique
07-11-2005, 06:01 PM
It was my experience that the water takes about 5 days to clear up again. This area is beautiful and you will LOVE IT! Watercolor is great fun... Only question will be- CAN you get down to the beach?? From the photo on this site of the Seaside dunes, one could only assume Watercolor will be in trouble too. This looks really bad. Bring your ladders!

Quint
07-11-2005, 06:02 PM
Quint - Are you asking about houses to the east or west of the public access at BMB? I'm not sure about the houses, but my family owns a unit in the Blue Mountain Villas/Blue Mountain Condos buildings. I've heard that the building to the east is condemned and the one to the west is dangerously close to the edge.
The side containing the pink and gold homes..

Fryday_1
07-11-2005, 06:05 PM
Smiling Joe:

Did you by chance take any pictures of Cottage Street and the Beach at Grayton?

cassie
07-11-2005, 06:09 PM
Hey Joe! Great to hear from you. Any pictures you can post would be great!

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 06:23 PM
Hey Joe! Great to hear from you. Any pictures you can post would be great!
I am in for only a quick bite to eat. Have not even looked thru my pics yet, but I have one for you. (They have already removed it, so don't be scared. One of only a few trees I saw down.)
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100119.JPG

PrincessKel
07-11-2005, 06:24 PM
Thanks for the awesome update Joe. I can't wait to see the photos.

RT8104
07-11-2005, 06:28 PM
Do you know about the condition of the Inn at Blue Mountain?

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 06:30 PM
Smiling Joe:

Did you by chance take any pictures of Cottage Street and the Beach at Grayton?
I was almost blown off of Cottage St yesterday. Terrible photos due to hard wind. I should have some of the Beach from Cottage St. Check in photo album next week. I will post a few general shots in there later tonight.

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100012.JPG
This shot was taken last night from Cottage St; sorry for the blurr.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 06:31 PM
Do you know about the condition of the Inn at Blue Mountain?

I did not walk down to the Inn at Bl Mtn. I would guess that you guys may have lost some major sand on the Gulf side.

hed2002us
07-11-2005, 06:33 PM
Do you know anything about the Washaway in Grayton Beach?

kareshack
07-11-2005, 06:37 PM
Hey seester!!(kelprincess) I will see you soon!! I am excited that all went well considering. Can not wait until we are back on your beaches again.

South Walton is really a wonderful place to take the family and the natives keep it so vibrant and up-beat!! I am glad that this is where we choose to vacation and hopefully one day live. :laughing1

by the way-Hey MG

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 06:38 PM
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100133.JPG

Main beach entrance in Seaside. That is a 20' drop off.

Triple E
07-11-2005, 06:57 PM
Which house had the Roof Damage in Lake Place? Color # etc. How high did the water get on the houses in Lake Place that face Western Lake.

Thank you.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 07:08 PM
Do you know anything about the Washaway in Grayton Beach?
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100001.JPG
A bit of water underneath, but looks good structurally.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 07:12 PM
Which house had the Roof Damage in Lake Place? Color # etc. How high did the water get on the houses in Lake Place that face Western Lake.

Thank you.

I drove thru earlier and did not notice any roof damage. Maybe Sunshine can help, since I think she lives there.

gbbullard
07-11-2005, 07:18 PM
The Bullard house that is the small cabin behind this picture. How did it fair? Mainly worried about wind damage.
Thanks for all your info and pictures. It is so helpful to those of us so far away from the place we love.

jennifer
07-11-2005, 07:40 PM
Hey seester!!(kelprincess) I will see you soon!! I am excited that all went well considering. Can not wait until we are back on your beaches again.

South Walton is really a wonderful place to take the family and the natives keep it so vibrant and up-beat!! I am glad that this is where we choose to vacation and hopefully one day live. :laughing1

by the way-Hey MG
Kareshack I didnt know you were coming! does your mother know? :eek:
Lookin forward to toes in the sand

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 07:42 PM
The Bullard house that is the small cabin behind this picture. How did it fair? Mainly worried about wind damage.
Thanks for all your info and pictures. It is so helpful to those of us so far away from the place we love.
Behind it where? North or west? ; describe it.

hed2002us
07-11-2005, 07:44 PM
Thanks for your help.

kareshack
07-11-2005, 07:45 PM
Hey jenna- we are going down with our friends and are staying down the road a bit. I am sure we will see you guys on the beach. You can spot us on H2O, we are bringing our boats. Mom does know i am going.

Fryday_1
07-11-2005, 07:51 PM
Thank You Smiling Joe. I am due down on Cottage Street at the Crab Cottage on Sunday. Hope their was no water damage to Crab Cottage. Looking forward to your pictures.

gbbullard
07-11-2005, 07:55 PM
The small yellow house east on the beach side across the beach access road. The house that has no road access and sits next to the empty lot next to the Red Bar.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 07:56 PM
Any information on 384 Defuniak Street (Emerald Star) in old Grayton? It sounds like we may have been lucky again with yet another storm. Thanks to all for your information. It really helps us folks not in the area. Jeanne
Jeanne, you should be good.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 07:59 PM
Would really appreciate it if anyone has any info regarding water levels around Mack Bayou as compared to Ivan. Came very close to the house last time, wonder how we did this time - I'm currently in JAX. Thanks to everyone for all the info! All things considered, sounds like we were very lucky again. Pray for the folks to the west.
Mack Bayou is wet. Many places that were near water, are now perhaps at the waters' edge.

danish030
07-11-2005, 08:00 PM
Hey Soozie,

I am on Blue Crab Loop. My next door neighbor in Seacrest lives close by. She said everything is fine at Seacrest. We have power. I think we have phone problems. No DT. She said Russ our ever faithful pool man was hard at work getting the pool shipshape. Said the pool looked good. A little debris.

Our beachwalkover is gone (of course). Can't tell about the dunes can't get close enough since walkover is gone.

She drove thru the n'hood and saw no visible signs of damage. I think we both got a little water blown in around our windows and french doors.

Hope this helps a little.
Our house is in Seacrest Beach North on 29 Sand Shovel Lane, " Emerald Views". If anyone is in the neighborhood and can drive by, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks.

sunshine
07-11-2005, 08:01 PM
Which house had the Roof Damage in Lake Place? Color # etc. How high did the water get on the houses in Lake Place that face Western Lake.

Thank you.
The roof damage was on the new contemporary.

If you are one of the south facing lots you've got some fun ahead of you cleaning up a whole lot of debris. I don't believe the water got in any homes, but it's messy.
PM me your address or lot # and I'll be happy to cruise around your property in the morning.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:02 PM
Any info on Gulf Trace?
Gulf-front in Gulf Trace is screwed. I know one man who owns 7 Gulf-front homes, and I would say he just lost an easy $10M +. Interior homes look fine in Gulf Trace.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:04 PM
Any reports on houses on Pine Street in Grayton beach. We have a house at 325 pine street? Thanks if anyone can update
Chris
No photos of your house, but Pine St looks good, not even under water.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:06 PM
I know there was some home near the public beach access in Blue Mountain still under repair from Ivan. Has there been a report on how these faired?
It is very gone; all the way to the showers. I have photos which I will later post, but could not access the Beach to see the severe damage to the homes on the Gulf. I did not see any in the water, but they are sure to be coming close to going in.

suebee
07-11-2005, 08:06 PM
Thanks, Joe. We have rented a house in Gulf Trace one house off the beach for Aug 6-13. Guess I'll contact the owner about damage to the house. In the past we have stayed gulffront, and loved it (I think I know the owner of the 7 gulffront properties!), but I'm glad we're off the beach this year. How is the beach at Gulf Trace?
e-mail me directly if you wish (suebee2317@aol.com)
Thanks again....so glad there were not injuries in Sowal...beaches will come back, property hopefully was heavily insured, but people are another thing!

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:08 PM
Has anyone heard about Blue Gulf Drive (the road Gaffrey Art is on) and that subdivision (Gulf Hills Estates)?

Thanks!
No problems

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:10 PM
Kurt, thanks for the public service. If anyone has wandered down Blue Mountain Road, please report on whether the Mountain suffered an Opal-like slice or an Ivan-like beach restoration/stairway removal.
Houses on Gulf side of Blue Mountain Road, are high potential for damage, not wind, but erosion. Use extreme caution, especially if you were suffering before.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:16 PM
Does anyone know the condition of the beach at the Gulf View Heights walkover?


It is gone, probably piled up at the beach side of Oyster Lake.

I repeat, I have not seen a complete beach walkover west of Seagrove One, and I did not see one there either, all the way to Destiny by the Sea. I did not stop at everyone, but I can use a bit of common sense and deductive reason. I suppose we should assume that all are out unless someone reports one as being open. However, Grayton Beach has easy access and the Red Bar reopened at 5:00pm today.

Kingbossdaddy
07-11-2005, 08:24 PM
Smiling Joe, thanks for your post. 644 Blue Mtn. Rd. on Gulf side lost 10 feet of the beachside yard. That is 10 linear feet of a 20-25 foot "mountain." This is the same amount of erosion we experienced in 1995 with Opal. Only 14 more feet and you reach the house. Thank God for a large street side front yard. BTW, the State has held up our permit for construction of a seawall for over 4 months. Any talk about what the federales might do now, besides beach/hill reclamation and 900,000 sea oat seedlings?

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:25 PM
It sounds like you are talking about Conch Out. That is our house also. We were there just last week. My wife and I were that last ones to leave the house around 5:00 PM Friday. We wanted to cry thinking we might be the last ones to stay there. I am glad to hear that the house faired so well. Thanks so much for the update. :clap_1:
You looked like you were enjoying grilling. I almost stopped in for dinner.

Allirow
07-11-2005, 08:25 PM
Does anyone have info on homes on Oyster Lake? We are the bright red house on the longest pier on Oyster lake. Is the road still closed there and can we access our hose (21 Sugar Beach Dr. off of Allen Loop)? Heared the lake was high as the dock but houses were dry. Wondering when to head in from ATL to asses damage for ourselves. Thanks in advance for any info.
:confused:

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:26 PM
Does Anyone Have Any Info On Old Florida Village, It Is On The North Side About A Block East Of Gulf Place? Does That Part Of The Beach Have Power????? Thanks For All The Great Info, You All Have Helped To Put Our Minds At Ease!!!!
Power should be on there. No damage to report in Old Florida Village.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:27 PM
We vacation in a duplex at the corner of Defuniak and Holtz(?) across from D&Ks. Hope the family that lives downstairs did alright. The water went around them during Ivan. They're suppose to move into a new home soon - hope that survived too.
They faired well.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:36 PM
Does anyone have reports of Okaloosa Island damage? We are staying (hopefully) at the El Matador early in August...Should we reevaluate and change plans?
You may check to see if there is water in your room. I do not know how El Matador faired but my friend's first floor on Holiday Isle is under water again. He was planning to get a boat today in order to observe the condition of his home (primary home - and no insurance) I think his insurance rates were about $3000 per month after Ivan, so he said, screw that. Homeowners are not expected to be allowed in to Holiday Isle until at least Thursday to check on their homes.

rooster mac
07-11-2005, 08:36 PM
The rooster is going to the Beach!, The storm is over so open up the roads and let in the RENTERS, ye! ha!

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:38 PM
While the Weather Channel and the networks focused on Pensacola and Panama City, this board has been a welcome source for info about the 30A area.

I would appreciate any reports from the western part of 30A, specifically Santa Rosa Beach and Dune Allen. We have a home at Dune Allen and will be coming from Louisville to check on it in a day or two.
Which house? I may have a photo.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:41 PM
My sis stayed at home on Cypress pond road, and I assume my brother is at home on Baird st near the elem school. Any info on the status of cell phones...I am not able to reach them. How is the flooding at Cypress pond?

She is in the last home on the left, barn and horses. Any info would be appreciated. I am bracing for flooding on our farm here in Asheville NC

Thanks,
Chris Sawyer
I am heading your way in the next day or two. Baird St is fine, but Cypress Pond Road is a little low. Fortunately, we missed most of the rain, so your sis is probably okay.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:42 PM
Any information on The Gulf Place Cabanas & Dune Allen areas?
No problems at Gulf Place.

margarita man
07-11-2005, 08:45 PM
Any report on Gulf Place & Gulf Place Cabanas?

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:46 PM
Any reports about along Old 98 - Scenic Gulf Drive - I heard that Pompano Joe's lost their paring lot again at Miramar Beach and also that Whale's Tail took a real bad hit?
Old 98 is closed east of the Crab Trap. People were quickly loading up all the debris in the parking lots beside the Crab Trap. Pomapano Joe's still stands; I don't know how.

Judy B.
07-11-2005, 08:47 PM
Beach Girl et al : One Seagrove Place sent these today in email update
"The only damage incurred is the loss of boardwalk"

lasml
07-11-2005, 08:47 PM
Smiling Joe, do you have a picture of the lagniappe house on 30A or any information on the house?

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:49 PM
No, one of the older ones. Actually, the one between the gold house and the one with the partially constructed sea wall.

Q

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100143.JPG
Blue Mt Beach Access - East side

Quint
07-11-2005, 08:53 PM
Blue Mt Beach Access - East side
Wow! I know the golden house lost their new retaining wall during Arlene while the house seen in the foreground was just repairing from Ivan when Dennis hit. It wouldn't suprise me to see the house in between to fall down the Mt.

Q

ezdan
07-11-2005, 08:56 PM
Gulf-front in Gulf Trace is screwed. I know one man who owns 7 Gulf-front homes, and I would say he just lost an easy $10M +. Interior homes look fine in Gulf Trace.

Smilin' Jose! Thanks for the update. I just got wind of this site this morning and reading the updates is much more informational than watching the Weather Channel or CNN. Your efforts and insights are very much appreciated.

We've been coming down from Memphis to Gulf Trace area for the past 20+ years and were set to be down there this week and next. How's the electricity, septic tanks, & phone situations in the Gulf Trace area? Is there anyway in the complex to be able to get down to the beach without having to wade through Alligator Lake?

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 08:56 PM
Kurt wrote: "Smiling Joe says to all the people that asked him to check on their places you are OK. He is still without power."

Rita, I just received your message to check on your house. I have not been into your hood today, but seing how others faired near you, I feel 100% sure that your house is fine.


More than likely we will just pass on the "civic duty thingy" by doing something helpful for someone else who needs it.
... and I will glady accept only this kind of return. Thanks for passing it on. That is what I believe life is supposed to be filled with... connections and experiences.

jennifer
07-11-2005, 08:59 PM
The rooster is going to the Beach!, The storm is over so open up the roads and let in the RENTERS, ye! ha!
OH Rooster Mac :bow: That is probably the longest note youve ever written!

and I DITTO everyword!
Karrie have a good time, no boats for me....just my toes in the sand and coffee with mybest friend-mysister and laughs with my nieces and snuggles with my husband and another week of Family tradition/memories to take until the next time.

Hey ya know our family grows and changes much like the sea/beach...and after hurricanes we just pull together get the debris outta the way stepping forward.
Renter with a smile!
Yall will have to let us know if any locals have a favorite coffee shop...we know about the Java shop in Grayton... :cool:

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 09:02 PM
Has anyone been able to verify the reports about the BMB erosion near the pb access?
Quint

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100142.JPG
Blue Mtn Beach public access lookin west.
The shower is only 15' to the right and the drop is 25' straight down.

reneep
07-11-2005, 09:07 PM
Any information about Bella Vita Condos on Blue Mountain Beach?

goodemom
07-11-2005, 09:13 PM
We are located at 458 Blue Mountain rd. I'm hearing we only have about 5 feet of sand left before the "cliff" is to the house. Our brand new deck is suspended in the air on one side. I could use any suggestions as to what to do from here (be nice!). I don't know where to start. Do we have sand brought in - can we even do that? Are retaining walls allowed? Are they worth the cost vs the risk of losing it in another storm. Do we just sit back and wait until hurricane season is over? I am overwhlemed! Any help would be appreciated.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 09:13 PM
I heard the big white pavillion at Seaside took a tumble....fact or fiction?
fiction.

lollygal
07-11-2005, 09:15 PM
Smiling Joe, can I just say we are so glad you're back!! :laughing1 :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1: :cool:

seagrovelover
07-11-2005, 09:18 PM
SJ.......WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT YOU!!!!!!!! thanks for all your info and pictures :wub: just got back from seagrove last week, we were so lucky, had beautiful weather and much fun :cool:

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 09:21 PM
Anyone know the lake east of Borago - the smaller one with the homes on the lake - there is the one on the edge and I love to look at this guys pier to see how far it is from the waterlevel - to look at it now, there is NO pier - completely covered with water.
Somewhere I have a photo, which I will post, of the top of the tiki torch which is on that submerged deck. I think it is in my other camera.

kurt
07-11-2005, 09:23 PM
We are located at 458 Blue Mountain rd. I'm hearing we only have about 5 feet of sand left before the "cliff" is to the house. Our brand new deck is suspended in the air on one side. I could use any suggestions as to what to do from here (be nice!). I don't know where to start. Do we have sand brought in - can we even do that? Are retaining walls allowed? Are they worth the cost vs the risk of losing it in another storm. Do we just sit back and wait until hurricane season is over? I am overwhlemed! Any help would be appreciated.

There is a white sand ordinance in place that will determine what sand you can bring in. Ordinarily you would have to go through DEP for walls, but there may be some exceptions made in the upcoming weeks.

The county is meeting with the Governor and the state. The first priority is the houses that are undermined. A dredge may be brought in to bring sand onshore to shore up the ones that can be saved.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 09:23 PM
My parents said the Grayton beaches looked bad but houses looked great!!
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7110034.JPG
Apparently, someone forgot to tell these guys that Grayton Beach looks bad.

alankat
07-11-2005, 09:24 PM
SJ.......WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT YOU!!!!!!!! thanks for all your info and pictures

Smilin' Joe - I wish we knew you, but we too thank you over and over for all your earnest info. I just wish it hadn't broken our hearts - we were due to be beach front at Gulf Trace on 7/22... Doesn't look likely, does it?

We'll still come and help in any way we can - if we have a place to stay!

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 09:33 PM
... how is the area in front of One Seagrove Place?
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7110017.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7110016.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7110015.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7110014.JPG

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 09:50 PM
Hate to ask but does anyone know if the Lagniappe house on highway 30 a is o.k. It is right before the little bridge almost at the beginning of oyster lake. It is Gulf front. After Ivan it only lost its stairway going down to the beach. We are suppose to be arriving this Thrusday, July 16th.

One of these? That area is looking rough. Check with your rental company.
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100164.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100156.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100172.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100185.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100159.JPG

Philip_Atlanta
07-11-2005, 09:53 PM
FYI - Old Florida Cottages are fine. My rental house lost some siding, but that was the only thing I saw in the neighborhood. As with everywhere else, the public beach access is gone. I went down to Ed Waline Park (at Gulf Place), and quite a few beach front homes are in bad shape in that area. Also, Rosemary Beach lost all it's walkovers, but I was told they are creating a temporary one asap (to get to the beach would require a 15-20 foot leap off a cliff).

From what I saw today, the erosion is extremely severe all along 30-a.:(

amylouky
07-11-2005, 09:54 PM
Here's hoping that "tropical depression five" only comes close enough to wash some of the sand back on the beach...

Anyone know how long it might take to get the beach walkovers rebuilt?

Thanks for everything!

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 09:57 PM
We are booked to rent one of the private gulf front houses in Gulf Trace this winter. We love the place, and are worried that it may be undermined and unavailable this year. Have all of the houses there had structural damage, or just a few?

I did not go onto the beach in Gulf Trace, but here are a couple of photos from the road.
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100141.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100140.JPG

sunsetdunes
07-11-2005, 09:58 PM
This may or may not be of interest to anyone, but am posting just in case.

Our house is in Inlet Beach, on Walton Rose Lane near the intersection with S. Wall. Our next door neighbor just returned home and reported that one of the beachfront houses on Pompano, an older one east of the intersection with S. Wall, is totally destroyed and lying on the beach, and that the road is completely washed out where it was already closed at the curve on Pompano. (Our house was spared damage, but it is on the second street back from the beach.) Power and phone lines are ok at her house and at mine. The closest place to access the beach from our house is at the end of Walton Lakeshore.

beach family
07-11-2005, 10:00 PM
Our family owns one of the Blue Mountain Villa Townhouses. We have heard that the building has about 10 - 15 feet of undermining. Anyone see anything?

beachmouse
07-11-2005, 10:00 PM
Scenic 98- we went from about Danny Wuerffel to the Okaloosa/Walton County line before hitting a police roadblock. Crab Trap park is pretty messed up. Some of the picnic areas are still standing, but I wouldn't trust their structural integrity. Some damage to townhouses south of 98- undermined to the point that their parking areas on the 98 side of the building washed out.

After the roadblock, we cut up to 98, and then back into the Maravilla complex to check on a family condo. Peeked out on the roadway a bit, but not too much. There is a thin layer of sand over the road in spots, but it didn't go as far back as the Maravilla pool. Pompano Joe's parking lot looked washed out yet again. Scenic 98 was less than 10 feet in spots from getting washed out, but looks to be okay as long as we don't get any more erosion events in the near future. Gulfview and the other north of Scenic 98 buildings should be just fine.

ameness
07-11-2005, 10:02 PM
SJ,
You seem to be the only one with info on Dune Allen. I am sorry to bombard you with another message, but do you have any idea how the gulf front Dune 1 townhomes look? They are at the very west end of 30-A. You are an angel to have been so kind and patient in responding to all of our inquiries. (Kurt, you too!)

Beach Girl
07-11-2005, 10:03 PM
Beach Girl et al : One Seagrove Place sent these today in email update
"The only damage incurred is the loss of boardwalk"


Wow...thanks. The house we are staying at is just next to OSP. (just to the east of it) Hopefully, they will be able to rebuild the walkover before August 13th.

Also, thanks SJ for all of your info. This board is so wonderful. :)

sunsetdunes
07-11-2005, 10:05 PM
Here's hoping that "tropical depression five" only comes close enough to wash some of the sand back on the beach...

Anyone know how long it might take to get the beach walkovers rebuilt?

Thanks for everything!

The answer is: it depends. Some walkovers are owned by entities such as Rosemary Beach, and many of them may be rebuilt quickly, as they were after Ivan. Those that are maintained by Walton County may take quite a bit longer due to the red tape involved. Then there are those that must be replaced by HOA's and the like. Those can also take longer. This was my experience during Ivan.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 10:06 PM
The small yellow house east on the beach side across the beach access road. The house that has no road access and sits next to the empty lot next to the Red Bar.
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100069.JPG
Three for the price of one -- The Washaway House, The Conch Out, and The Bullard House(maybe?)

I never really saw your house gbbullard, but this would be the best shot I have of it.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 10:10 PM
Thanks, Joe. We have rented a house in Gulf Trace one house off the beach for Aug 6-13. Guess I'll contact the owner about damage to the house. In the past we have stayed gulffront, and loved it (I think I know the owner of the 7 gulffront properties!), but I'm glad we're off the beach this year. How is the beach at Gulf Trace?
e-mail me directly if you wish (suebee2317@aol.com)
Thanks again....so glad there were not injuries in Sowal...beaches will come back, property hopefully was heavily insured, but people are another thing!
If you are interior in Gulf Trace, you are probably good to go.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 10:18 PM
Does anyone have info on homes on Oyster Lake? We are the bright red house on the longest pier on Oyster lake. Is the road still closed there and can we access our hose (21 Sugar Beach Dr. off of Allen Loop)? Heared the lake was high as the dock but houses were dry. Wondering when to head in from ATL to asses damage for ourselves. Thanks in advance for any info.
:confused:

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100197.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100155.JPG
These two are the closest shots I have to your house. The Lake was, and is, very high. Hope your house faired well. You have a nice home with awesome views. My guess is that your pool may be filled with some beach sand.

Your house is to the right, just outside of this second photo.

Allirow
07-11-2005, 10:24 PM
One of these? That area is looking rough. Check with your rental company.
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http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100156.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100172.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100185.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100159.JPG
If I'm not mistaken, the third pic down, third house in (grayish greeen roof) is Laignappe.

It was pretty close to the cliff at the water inlet to Oyster Lake after Arlene, but looks from these pictures that the inlet is gone and no more cliff (was 5 ft. or so) exists.

Thanks so much for posting these pictures SJ, the closest ones I've seen to my house on Oyster Lake. We only bought it a month ago. At least we enjoyed a few weekends of beautiful beach and water. Couldn't have been better conditions over the past few weeks.

Now that I've seen our beach access, I can only hope our house is not part of Oyster Lake!

Thanks again for all the great info! It's hard not being there to see what's happened. We truly appreciate this site and it's members being our eyes and ears till we can get there. I think the desire to see our house coupled with the ever present yearning for those RB crabcakes will bring us in soon!

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 10:24 PM
Smilin' Jose! Thanks for the update. I just got wind of this site this morning and reading the updates is much more informational than watching the Weather Channel or CNN. Your efforts and insights are very much appreciated.

We've been coming down from Memphis to Gulf Trace area for the past 20+ years and were set to be down there this week and next. How's the electricity, septic tanks, & phone situations in the Gulf Trace area? Is there anyway in the complex to be able to get down to the beach without having to wade through Alligator Lake?

I am not sure, but Alligator Lake is now about 7' from the road in that corner coming in. I did not get out of the car while I was there. Be careful around those sand cliffs and remember that what remains of the sand is vital to the people with severe damage to the homes.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 10:26 PM
OH Rooster Mac :bow:
Yall will have to let us know if any locals have a favorite coffee shop...we know about the Java shop in Grayton... :cool:
The coffee at Hibiscus, in Grayton, has some of the best coffee around, but I guess that is another thread.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 10:29 PM
Smilin' Joe - I wish we knew you, but we too thank you over and over for all your earnest info. I just wish it hadn't broken our hearts - we were due to be beach front at Gulf Trace on 7/22... Doesn't look likely, does it?

We'll still come and help in any way we can - if we have a place to stay!
Just post a message on this board, and you will find a place to stay.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 10:35 PM
SJ,
You seem to be the only one with info on Dune Allen. I am sorry to bombard you with another message, but do you have any idea how the gulf front Dune 1 townhomes look? They are at the very west end of 30-A. You are an angel to have been so kind and patient in responding to all of our inquiries. (Kurt, you too!)
I wish I could say, but comparitively speaking, I was focussing on the damaged areas. I did not notice Dune Allen I or II. There were some Sheriff's Deputies and some peeps at the interesection of 30A and Highland Ave. (I think just debris in the road.)

gbbullard
07-11-2005, 10:37 PM
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100069.JPG
Three for the price of one -- The Washaway House, The Conch Out, and The Bullard House(maybe?)

I never really saw your house gbbullard, but this would be the best shot I have of it.



Joe,
Thank you soooooo much. This is great. It does show a good view of the house. We are lucky enough to be a little back from the beach and have some dunes still in front of us.
Thank you again.

irish9697
07-11-2005, 10:41 PM
Any info about the gated Seashore Circle in Seagrove East? We're scheduled to arrive the 16th to Bella Breeze through Garrett Realty who we haven't been able to contact yet...

Our favorite beach house we've ever stayed at was Que Sera Sera beach side of San Juan Avenue...any word on how it faired?

And, the big house on 30A just to the left of the walkover at Hickory Street in Seagrove West...is it okay?

I'm assuming *all* walkovers are gone? Any chance there will be any temporary access anywhere in the area within the week?

lasml
07-11-2005, 10:41 PM
Thank you so much for the pics of dune allen by oyster lake. The laignappe house looks like it did pretty well. Looks like a lot of stuff washed up next to it. thank you so much again smiling joe. You have been great with all of your information on the area of 30a.

luvdaseaside
07-11-2005, 10:42 PM
JOE IS THE BEST!!!! i do not own any property, but visit Seaside every summer and will be there first week of August. can I buy you a drink when we ge there??? :clap_1:

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 10:42 PM
If I'm not mistaken, the third pic down, third house in (grayish greeen roof) is Laignappe.


http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100154.JPG
Is this the house? This one would be west and adjacent to the inlet. You are correct, there is no cliff, just a gentle slope.

irish9697
07-11-2005, 10:42 PM
I second that! We'd love to buy you a drink next week when we're there!!

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 10:46 PM
Joe,
Thank you soooooo much. This is great. It does show a good view of the house. We are lucky enough to be a little back from the beach and have some dunes still in front of us.
Thank you again.

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100045.JPG
... and now you are Lake Front. Notice the old volley ball court? This is between you and the Beach.

Philip_Atlanta
07-11-2005, 10:48 PM
[QUOTE=lasml]Thank you so much for the pics of dune allen by oyster lake. The laignappe house looks like it did pretty well. Looks like a lot of stuff washed up next to it. [QUOTE]

I don't know this, but that area is where there is a ton of trash. I *think* the county cleared the beach and put it all there, as the rest of 30a is relatively clear of debris. Anyone know this to be true or false?

Allirow
07-11-2005, 10:48 PM
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100197.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100155.JPG
These two are the closest shots I have to your house. The Lake was, and is, very high. Hope your house faired well. You have a nice home with awesome views. My guess is that your pool may be filled with some beach sand.

Your house is to the right, just outside of this second photo.
SJ, thank you AGAIN for posting these pics and answering our posts! See my response to your reply to the "Laignappe" inquiry for more heartfelt thanks! You've been awesome! Wish we could somehow return the favor!?!

Thanks,
Allison

JustBeachy
07-11-2005, 10:49 PM
My oldest kid just asked me if The Back Porch, in Destin, survived..I told him I'd ask, but I'm not hopeful..

Smilin' Joe, thanks for all your photos! For the first time ever, I am glad to not have a house on the beachside of BMBeach Road! Of course, if the erosion keeps up, I guess we will have that view, after all. :eek:

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 10:49 PM
Thank you so much for the pics of dune allen by oyster lake. The laignappe house looks like it did pretty well. Looks like a lot of stuff washed up next to it. thank you so much again smiling joe. You have been great with all of your information on the area of 30a.
That area at Oyster Lake is like a magnet for walkovers with every storm. Need some good lumber? It coul be like Pixie Sticks (or whatever the game is called).

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 10:53 PM
[QUOTE=lasml]Thank you so much for the pics of dune allen by oyster lake. The laignappe house looks like it did pretty well. Looks like a lot of stuff washed up next to it. [QUOTE]

I don't know this, but that area is where there is a ton of trash. I *think* the county cleared the beach and put it all there, as the rest of 30a is relatively clear of debris. Anyone know this to be true or false?
:floor: :floor: :floor: What, the county work? Get out of here. Very much not true about them moving the debris. They did move it from the road. FYI - If you notice sewage smells anywhere, don't walk around barefoot. There was definitely some sewage spillage here and there, and in this area of Dune Allen too. I saw the guys pumping it out later, but bacteria may still be around these spills. Use good judgement.

Fryday_1
07-11-2005, 10:55 PM
Smiling Joe:

Does all of the beach at Grayton look like this, I mean with small lakes all around?

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 10:55 PM
My oldest kid just asked me if The Back Porch, in Destin, survived..I told him I'd ask, but I'm not hopeful..

Smilin' Joe, thanks for all your photos! For the first time ever, I am glad to not have a house on the beachside of BMBeach Road! Of course, if the erosion keeps up, I guess we will have that view, after all. :eek:
Do I hear Bay-front?

Allirow
07-11-2005, 10:55 PM
[QUOTE=lasml]Thank you so much for the pics of dune allen by oyster lake. The laignappe house looks like it did pretty well. Looks like a lot of stuff washed up next to it. [QUOTE]

I don't know this, but that area is where there is a ton of trash. I *think* the county cleared the beach and put it all there, as the rest of 30a is relatively clear of debris. Anyone know this to be true or false?
Hi Philip,

We weathered Arlene since we were moving our furniture in that w/e and after Arlene, that beach next to Laignappe was littered with debris (not quite as bad as these pics, but still bad). By the next w/e the debris was all piled up next to houses along the beach at Oyster Lake. Looks to me like that the OL inlet at Laignappe is just a debris "catch all" for these storms.

The house looks pretty good though. Hope you still get to go down. We're in ATL also!

Best wishes,
Allison

jpatten
07-11-2005, 10:56 PM
Any other word on damage in the walton lakeshore area, specifically shoreline 9 condos?

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 10:58 PM
Smiling Joe:

Does all of the beach at Grayton look like this, I mean with small lakes all around?
That is the only one I saw, but it will soon drain. There are spots here and there that had water, like under the Washaway House, but don't expect them to be permanent fixtures.

sarawind
07-11-2005, 10:58 PM
This is looking at our townhouse from the beach in Seacrest. Click on picture to enlarge

sarawind
07-11-2005, 11:03 PM
View from the east standing on what remains of our beach walkover. These pictures were made by Ronny Shiver who was kind enough to board up our building. The grayish blue building is Mistral. Click on picture to enlarge.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 11:04 PM
Before and After at Blue Mtn Bch

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P2180026.JPG
Before (Feb 18, 2005)

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100142.JPG
After (July 11, 2005) The cliff is a few feet closer inland, so the angle is a little off.
These are at the public entrance at Hwy 83, Blue Mtn Beach, looking west.

sarawind
07-11-2005, 11:05 PM
View from the west. Click on picture to enlarge. There are more pictures posted in the Members Photo Gallery.

beach family
07-11-2005, 11:07 PM
Smiling JOe,

Thanks for all your pictures and information. Do you have any more pictures of Blue Mountain Beach, to the west of the public beach access? I heard that there was significant dune erosion. We heard that our place at the Blue Mountain Villa Townhomes had a lot of erosion. Did you see this area? How screwed are we? :eek:

sarawind
07-11-2005, 11:10 PM
On the beach in Seacrest looking west. Click on my pictures to enlarge them.

kareshack
07-11-2005, 11:16 PM
Smiling Joe- you deserve an award for being a great dude. You have set many minds at ease with all of your posts. As a renter I know a little of what to expect and as a homeowner I am sure the help is enormous. I miss that kind of helpfulness here at home but I am excited to get to visit it soon. Looking forward to your wonderful beaches and interested how we will get to them. Where there is a will there is a way!!

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 11:23 PM
Smiling JOe,

Thanks for all your pictures and information. Do you have any more pictures of Blue Mountain Beach, to the west of the public beach access? I heard that there was significant dune erosion. We heard that our place at the Blue Mountain Villa Townhomes had a lot of erosion. Did you see this area? How screwed are we? :eek:
I could not get onto the beach there, so no more photos for you. Unfortunately, extensive damage exists in that area for Gulf front homes. I hope yours is okay.

JEANNE
07-11-2005, 11:25 PM
Thanks A LOT JOe. I've been a little anxious. Jeanne

SGB
07-11-2005, 11:27 PM
We checked on our house on Hickory Street in Old Seagrove today. We are the third house back from the beach and our house had absolutely no damage. Power was on. We saw no damage on any homes in the area other than those directly on the gulf. As others have said, it really doesn't look half as bad as when Ivan hit. For instance, the ground isn't completely covered with leaves leaving bare trees. The homes in old Seagrove that aren't on the beach look great.

Gulf front homes in some areas are really in bad shape. The Gulf front homes near Hickory all seem to be ok, but the dunes have been hit hard and the homes are much closer to the edge than they used to be. Someone asked about the big house on the beach at the end of Hickory (Doodle's house) - it appears fine, but is much closer to the edge than it was and there is a large vertical drop down.

Our home is located on the mouth of Mack Bayou and it did well. The water didn't come over our seawall this time, like it did with Ivan. We estimate that the bay rose about 2 feet less than it did with Ivan. We have power and water. The house is fine, but our pool screen house collapsed. We think it was weakened with Ivan. Other houses in the area seem to be in great shape. Some of our neighbors have power, others don't. Again, there really is a lot less debris on the ground and since we don't have our neighbors' docks in our backyard this time, there will be less cleanup.

Publix in Sandestin is open and is busy.

Let me know if you would like me to check on specific houses in either of these areas.

sarawind
07-11-2005, 11:30 PM
East from Seacliffs townhouse in Seacrest looking east. Click on picture to enlarge.

sdavis
07-11-2005, 11:31 PM
I could not get onto the beach there, so no more photos for you. Unfortunately, extensive damage exists in that area for Gulf front homes. I hope yours is okay.

Thanks, Smiling Joe, for helping get out the pics and details. You are like "The Postman" .......

:clap_1:

patlambdaycare
07-11-2005, 11:33 PM
do you know how okaloosa island fared? el matador?

PEARL
07-11-2005, 11:38 PM
Does anyone know how Beachside Condos in Seagrove fared? They're across the street from Bruno's Pizza.

Smiling JOe
07-11-2005, 11:39 PM
Thanks, Smiling Joe, for helping get out the pics and details. You are like "The Postman" .......

:clap_1:
I wish I had better news to deliver to some of you.

mare
07-11-2005, 11:47 PM
Does anyone know how the beach at the end of South Bishop fared? Thanks for any info.
Mare

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 12:46 AM
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100165.JPG
Allirow, just found a photo with your 3rd floor and roof top

BFinBR
07-12-2005, 12:53 AM
I'd like to reiterate all the thanks to those who have provided all the information here. Even though we only rent, after sixteen years South Walton really is like a second home to us, and we share the concerns of everyone here. Thanks again for the updates to those of us who are there in spirit only.

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 01:04 AM
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7110025.JPG
Another peak of the Bullard House.

PrincessKel
07-12-2005, 01:11 AM
Is there any info on Thyme After Thyme? :idontno:

martin
07-12-2005, 01:12 AM
Where was this photo taken.

RiverOtter
07-12-2005, 01:20 AM
Hey SJ, it's me GraytonBound....you're alive :clap_1:

We've been waitin' for ya to post......still couldnt get thru on your cell...

maybe we'll bump into each other this week:cool:

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 01:21 AM
Where was this photo taken.
Which one? If you go to my photo album (smiling joe), you will see descriptions for each photo.

martin
07-12-2005, 01:39 AM
Sorry the pic in #367 look like Cottage Street for a sec..
Look forward to seeing some future pics. From what I am gathering
seems Cottage St fair OK, maybe some water damage.
Thanks for the all the posting.
Great Job!

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 01:50 AM
Sorry the pic in #367 look like Cottage Street for a sec..
Look forward to seeing some future pics. From what I am gathering
seems Cottage St fair OK, maybe some water damage.
Thanks for the all the posting.
Great Job!
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100026.JPG
I think this is one of Cottage St. The one in post # 367 is Dune Allen. I have another picture of the house to the south of the boat ramp somewhere in my files if you need it.

geauxfl
07-12-2005, 01:50 AM
Does anyone have an information on the Hidden Dunes in Sandestin? I haven't been able to reach anyone at the resort and I haven't seen any posts in the forums yet. thanks !

jennifer
07-12-2005, 05:19 AM
The coffee at Hibiscus, in Grayton, has some of the best coffee around, but I guess that is another thread.
And that is what I am up to do this morning as our troop of family from nashville, to atlanta and even from Venezula are united ***Beach JAVA BOUND...come see us there!

PaulD@ES
07-12-2005, 05:25 AM
I have heard from a neighbor that said Seagrove did great. And for Snapper Grabber, I am guessing the Grove did well, too. I have talked with one neighbor and we still have power.

We are leaving to come back first thing in the morning - afraid if we leave tonight, we may not be able to get across the bridges.

Anyone know the bridge situation?

Still trying to get in touch with my friend on Adair Lane - anyone know how that area is on the bay?

Eastern Shores Building #1 (Smaller Buiilding) has been condemned. First Floor units floors have fallen to the ground about 5 feet to the ground.

PaulD@ES
07-12-2005, 05:26 AM
Eastern Shores Condominiums building #1 has been condemned. first floor units floor has dropped 5 feet to the ground.

reneep
07-12-2005, 06:35 AM
We are scheduled for a family reunion at Bella Vita on Blue Mountain Beach beginning on the 24th and have family coming in from four states. Any word on the condition of the building?

Nick
07-12-2005, 06:50 AM
I read that Old 98 was closed, is it the whole road or just washed out sections. We have a condo at Geronimo and Old 98 (about 3/4 mile from Silver Sands Outlet) at the Beach House Condominiums and are trying to get an idea of how they fared. Last year with Ivan the pool fell onto the beach and our unit is in one of the buildings closest to the beach so we are keeping our fingers crossed. If anyone has any info on it or the area, or if that section of road is open it would be greatly appreciated.

Passatfish
07-12-2005, 07:31 AM
SJ: As many people are experiencing, I am unable to get in touch with our rental company and would love to find out how the Cottages at Camp Creek faired. ANY info would be greatly appreciated!!! We are due to come down This Saturaday and would like to know if alternate plans are necessary.

Allirow
07-12-2005, 07:44 AM
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100165.JPG
Allirow, just found a photo with your 3rd floor and roof top
Yep, that's us. At least I know we're standing, but woah does that lake look high from a distance. Man, I've just gotta get down there to see what's up. Need to find a sitter first as my 3 kids are babies...probably not the best environment there for them.

Can't thank you enough SJ!

Best wishes,
Allison

firepar1
07-12-2005, 07:55 AM
Could someone please tell me about the Legends in Santa Rosa. Suppose to be there Thursday the 14th. Can someone advise on beach area, pool, condition, general appearance, electric on and if we could enjoy by coming at that time. Thank anyone very much if could advise.

beachcomber
07-12-2005, 08:34 AM
Attn Owners, how many of you were contacted by your rental agencies to board up your houses, condos, etc?...If you were or weren't, who were your agencies?...Best of luck to all owners down here...

pattiw
07-12-2005, 08:34 AM
Does anyone know how Dunes of Seagrove & beach there held up?

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 08:37 AM
We are scheduled for a family reunion at Bella Vita on Blue Mountain Beach beginning on the 24th and have family coming in from four states. Any word on the condition of the building?
Bella Vita is fine.

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 08:45 AM
I read that Old 98 was closed, is it the whole road or just washed out sections. We have a condo at Geronimo and Old 98 (about 3/4 mile from Silver Sands Outlet) at the Beach House Condominiums and are trying to get an idea of how they fared. Last year with Ivan the pool fell onto the beach and our unit is in one of the buildings closest to the beach so we are keeping our fingers crossed. If anyone has any info on it or the area, or if that section of road is open it would be greatly appreciated.

Yesterday, the Sheriff's Office had Old 98 closed off beginning on the east side of Capt Dave's on the Gulf (which is living up to its name) and how far east, I do not know. That area around the Crab Trap faired better than after Ivan, but I am sure it doesn't look pretty from the beach. Power was out yesterday. My guess, just a good guess is that it is NOT closed all the way to Geronimo St. However, if your pool fell into the Gulf after Ivan, I would be a little concerned about the potential damage. You never know, I did not expect Pompano Joes to still have a parking lot, which it lost with Ivan, but it is still there. Maybe there is nothing holding up the asphalt :idontno: . I, as well as many others on this board, will keep my fingers crossed for you.

jrperk
07-12-2005, 08:47 AM
Thank you, I just found this site and, like many others, really appreciate you for being the eyes for so many of us who look forward to shareing a little bit of the paradise you live in. My heart goes out to those who have suffered loss.

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 08:47 AM
SJ: As many people are experiencing, I am unable to get in touch with our rental company and would love to find out how the Cottages at Camp Creek faired. ANY info would be greatly appreciated!!! We are due to come down This Saturaday and would like to know if alternate plans are necessary.
Camp Creek Kid has some excellent reporting from that end. I have not been further east than One Seagrove Place, and am headed out of town today.

Passatfish
07-12-2005, 08:49 AM
FYI: Beach rentals of South Walton has put an update of their website stating:



Hurricane Dennis Update

Beach Rentals of South Walton, Inc. Management we like to announce that early assessment shows that our rental properties and beaches have survived Hurricane Dennis with minor damage. There appears to be several beach walks down, however, the Walton County Tourist Development Council is currently working on solving this problem. Beach Rentals of South Walton is aiming to be back on track for rentals starting July 16, 2005. Please be assured that if there happens to be a problem with your rental unit, Beach Rentals of South Walton will contact you and inform you of the situation. We thank you for your concern and cooperation.

So, it looks like we are good for this saturday!!

Paula
07-12-2005, 08:51 AM
SJ: As many people are experiencing, I am unable to get in touch with our rental company and would love to find out how the Cottages at Camp Creek faired. ANY info would be greatly appreciated!!! We are due to come down This Saturaday and would like to know if alternate plans are necessary.

Greetings Passatfish:

Which cottage will you be staying in? We have Ahhh The Good Life and Key Lime at the Cottages at Camp Creek. Our association has been in touch with us (as have others on this site) to say that the cottages, community, and pool are doing fine and we didn't lose electricity. So, the property you're in should be fine, and you'll have a nice porch to relax on and a great pool. The beach access has been damaged so you won't be able to get to the beach right across the street. You'll want to find another beach access and I think they will be posted here as soon as we know what they are (I think Kurt said he may post them once it's clear where they are). I've read on this site that access may be available at Inlet Beach (about 1.5 - 3 miles east of the Cottages at Camp Creek, although I don't know specifically where it is), Seagrove beach (about 4 miles West of Cottages at Camp Creek), Seaside maybe behind Roly Poly restaurant (about 6 miles West), and Grayton beach (about 10 miles West). All beaches will be messy and I'd stay far from the dunes since they sound unstable and I definitely wouldn't let kids go near the dunes. But they should have plenty of space to play down by the shoreline and by next week, the shoreline may look pretty normal as long as you don't look back toward the dunes!

I'll be staying at Key Lime next week beginning on July 18 with two preteens. I'm fully looking forward to our trip and plan to read on the porch, hang out by the pool (kids like looking for frogs in the mornings), taking walks in the area, going to seaside and rosemary beach for outdoor concerts and movies at night (both very close by), eating out a bit, but mostly relaxing. i'll miss not having easy access to the beach, but I assume the beaches will be open and I plan to find accesses every day. You will be awed by seeing what a hurricane can do to dunes, houses, etc. It will be quite the education and (sadly) very interesting photo ops. If you were to just stay at the Cottages at Camp Creek (and many/most communities on 30A) and along 30A and didn't go to the beach at all, you wouldn't know there was a hurricane that came near this area. The give-away is the beach and 30A is much more than the beach (though we can't wait for it to get back to normal).

Stop by and say hi at Key Lime if you're in the community. Also, feel free to send me a private email if you have any specific questions at pcaproni@umich.edu.

If you made your initial contact through VRBO or other online owner website, you could do a search of your old emails or look on the website again to find contact information and contact the owner that way. The agencies seem to be overwhelmed right now.

If you had your heart set on a nice relaxing vacation in a great community and lots of easy things to do in SoWal (e.g., outdoor movies, outdoor concerts, activities, shops, restaurants, etc.), you'd get that. If you absolutely need to have to have a white sand beach with sloping dunes, you won't get that (Frankly, I honestly believe that seeing a beach after a hurricane is quite the education and worth seeing as long as you stay safe when at the beach and stay away from the dunes.) Hope this helps.

And you can try to email your agency as well. You may not get an answer immediately, but at least you've notified them of your plans.

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 08:51 AM
Yep, that's us. At least I know we're standing, but woah does that lake look high from a distance. Man, I've just gotta get down there to see what's up. Need to find a sitter first as my 3 kids are babies...probably not the best environment there for them.

Can't thank you enough SJ!

Best wishes,
Allison
Relax, that is the Sun's reflection of the hand rail over the bridge. Notice the power pole is behind the rail, not in front, which it would be if it were the Lake.
I really think your house is fine. I hope the previous owner did a great job on the roof repair. He said it had no problems. Just kidding, relax, your house is going to be fine. I have to head that way before I depart, and I will try to take a photo or two for you to put you at ease.

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 08:55 AM
Could someone please tell me about the Legends in Santa Rosa. Suppose to be there Thursday the 14th. Can someone advise on beach area, pool, condition, general appearance, electric on and if we could enjoy by coming at that time. Thank anyone very much if could advise.
The Legends faired well, but your closest beach access will probably be Grayton. (I bet Grayton is going to get busy as July 4th. Ollie and Red Bar - get ready for some business. Ya'll be nice to Stacy, or she might pour some sparkling wine down your shirt. :shock: ) Come on down, you will enjoy it.

MG
07-12-2005, 08:57 AM
:D Hey Karrie.. Can't wait to get there.. only 6 more days and we are FLA bound.. I hope things continue to look good! An I second your cudos to Smilin Joe..

Hey seester!!(kelprincess) I will see you soon!! I am excited that all went well considering. Can not wait until we are back on your beaches again.

South Walton is really a wonderful place to take the family and the natives keep it so vibrant and up-beat!! I am glad that this is where we choose to vacation and hopefully one day live. :laughing1

by the way-Hey MG

Passatfish
07-12-2005, 08:57 AM
Greetings Passatfish:

Which cottage will you be staying in? We have Ahhh The Good Life and Key Lime at the Cottages at Camp Creek. Our association has been in touch with us (as have others on this site) to say that the cottages, community, and pool are doing fine and we didn't lose electricity. So, the property you're in should be fine, and you'll have a nice porch to relax on and a great pool. The beach access has been damaged so you won't be able to get to the beach right across the street. You'll want to find another beach access and I think they will be posted here as soon as we know what they are (I think Kurt said he may post them once it's clear where they are). I've read on this site that access may be available at Inlet Beach (about 1.5 - 3 miles east of the Cottages at Camp Creek, although I don't know specifically where it is), Seagrove beach (about 4 miles West of Cottages at Camp Creek), Seaside maybe behind Roly Poly restaurant (about 6 miles West), and Grayton beach (about 10 miles West). All beaches will be messy and I'd stay far from the dunes since they sound unstable and I definitely wouldn't let kids go near the dunes. But they should have plenty of space to play down by the shoreline and by next week, the shoreline may look pretty normal as long as you don't look back toward the dunes!

I'll be staying at Key Lime next week beginning on July 18 with two preteens. I'm fully looking forward to our trip and plan to read on the porch, hang out by the pool (kids like looking for frogs in the mornings), taking walks in the area, going to seaside and rosemary beach for outdoor concerts and movies at night (both very close by), eating out a bit, but mostly relaxing. i'll miss not having easy access to the beach, but I assume the beaches will be open and I plan to find accesses every day. You will be awed by seeing what a hurricane can do to dunes, houses, etc. It will be quite the education and (sadly) very interesting photo ops. If you were to just stay at the Cottages at Camp Creek (and many/most communities on 30A) and along 30A and didn't go to the beach at all, you wouldn't know there was a hurricane that came near this area. The give-away is the beach and 30A is much more than the beach (though we can't wait for it to get back to normal).

Stop by and say hi at Key Lime if you're in the community. Also, feel free to send me a private email if you have any specific questions at pcaproni@umich.edu.

If you made your initial contact through VRBO or other online owner website, you could do a search of your old emails or look on the website again to find contact information and contact the owner that way. The agencies seem to be overwhelmed right now.

If you had your heart set on a nice relaxing vacation in a great community and lots of easy things to do in SoWal (e.g., outdoor movies, outdoor concerts, activities, shops, restaurants, etc.), you'd get that. If you absolutely need to have to have a white sand beach with sloping dunes, you won't get that (Frankly, I honestly believe that seeing a beach after a hurricane is quite the education and worth seeing as long as you stay safe when at the beach and stay away from the dunes.) Hope this helps.

And you can try to email your agency as well. You may not get an answer immediately, but at least you've notified them of your plans.

Thanks again for the information. We are staying at the turtle boy cottage as we discussed yesterday. After I posted the above I looked on the rental companies website and noticed that the damage is minimal if at all. So, we're looking forward to a relaxing vacation.

alankat
07-12-2005, 08:59 AM
Just post a message on this board, and you will find a place to stay.
Ok, SJ, I'll give it a go:
Since "the big house" at Gulf Trace (gulf-front, next door to the office, #257) looks like it may or may not be a go (pic in post #319 - thanx SJ!) for our annual trek on 7/22 (rental office not yet answering phones)...

Anybody out there have some place else we can rent 7/22-7/30 -- that has a minimum of 6 bedrooms?
(That's why we rent "the big house" - we're 12 adults + 6 more aged 8-16!) :roll:

Allirow
07-12-2005, 09:08 AM
Relax, that is the Sun's reflection of the hand rail over the bridge. Notice the power pole is behind the rail, not in front, which it would be if it were the Lake.
I really think your house is fine. I hope the previous owner did a great job on the roof repair. He said it had no problems. Just kidding, relax, your house is going to be fine. I have to head that way before I depart, and I will try to take a photo or two for you to put you at ease.

Yes, now I see that's not water! Thanks for putting my mind at ease! Hoping the same as you for the roof! Repairs made right before closing held tight during Arlene at least. Many thanks again (beginning to sound like a broken record here)! Have a great trip wherever you're headed.

Allison

tiagus
07-12-2005, 09:19 AM
Ok, SJ, I'll give it a go:
Since "the big house" at Gulf Trace (gulf-front, next door to the office, #257) looks like it may or may not be a go (pic in post #319 - thanx SJ!) for our annual trek on 7/22 (rental office not yet answering phones)...

Anybody out there have some place else we can rent 7/22-7/30 -- that has a minimum of 6 bedrooms?
(That's why we rent "the big house" - we're 12 adults + 6 more aged 8-16!) :roll:
alankat
We are renting 251 next door to 257 for the first time 7-30 to 8-6. Is it in the picture, too?
Thanks,
Michelle

MG
07-12-2005, 09:22 AM
FYI: Beach rentals of South Walton has put an update of their website stating:



Hurricane Dennis Update

Beach Rentals of South Walton, Inc. Management we like to announce that early assessment shows that our rental properties and beaches have survived Hurricane Dennis with minor damage. There appears to be several beach walks down, however, the Walton County Tourist Development Council is currently working on solving this problem. Beach Rentals of South Walton is aiming to be back on track for rentals starting July 16, 2005. Please be assured that if there happens to be a problem with your rental unit, Beach Rentals of South Walton will contact you and inform you of the situation. We thank you for your concern and cooperation.

So, it looks like we are good for this saturday!!

:clap_1: Thanks for the update.. we are headed down on Sunday and were a little anxious.. Looks like it will be okay..

WooHoo!!! Check it out kareshack! :lol:

TooFarTampa
07-12-2005, 09:27 AM
Attn Owners, how many of you were contacted by your rental agencies to board up your houses, condos, etc?...If you were or weren't, who were your agencies?...Best of luck to all owners down here...

Our mgt. company (Coastal Properties) said they had someone who would be bringing in furniture, grills, etc for $50 a trip. I'm assuming that's what they did for us. They don't offer someone to help board up, and they don't seem to alert owners to tell them to come and board up either. I think they assume we watch the Weather Channel!

JB
07-12-2005, 09:27 AM
I'll go ahead and add my request. Hopefully, it won't be lost in the pile of others.

My particular area of interest is is the 400 block of Blue Mountain Beach Road. This would be the area just to, and around, the neighborhood beach access at the intersection of BMBR and Gulf Point Road.

Someone posted that the erosion was particularly bad in this area, with the foundations of some homes exposed. Any info is GREATLY appreciated, as I can't get in touch with the rental agency who handles the property.

hiswalk
07-12-2005, 09:27 AM
Does anyone have any information on Grant-A-Wish at the end of Gulf Pines subdivision (Sandestin area?) We have our family of 15 coming down in a few weeks! Thanks!

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 09:29 AM
Pinnacle Point - just saw it on the news. The first floor condos were filled with waves at some point during Dennis. Pinnical Point is next to Carillon Beach, and already had extensive damage from Ivan, then more from Cindy.

Arkie
07-12-2005, 09:32 AM
Ok, SJ, I'll give it a go:
Since "the big house" at Gulf Trace (gulf-front, next door to the office, #257) looks like it may or may not be a go (pic in post #319 - thanx SJ!) for our annual trek on 7/22 (rental office not yet answering phones)...

Anybody out there have some place else we can rent 7/22-7/30 -- that has a minimum of 6 bedrooms?
(That's why we rent "the big house" - we're 12 adults + 6 more aged 8-16!) :roll:

We are in Magnolia Hill (one row back in Gulf Trace) beginning the 16th. We rented direct but need information and the owner is out of country. I didn't know there was a rental office. Can you post the number?

WITHOUT THIS SITE ALL OF US "RENTERS" WOULD HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER TO START OUR FIVE TO TWELVE HOUR TREKS TO OUR FAVORITE SPOT. GREAT COMMUNITY SERVICE!

Thanks!

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 09:33 AM
I'll go ahead and add my request. Hopefully, it won't be lost in the pile of others.

My particular area of interest is is the 400 block of Blue Mountain Beach Road. This would be the area just to, and around, the neighborhood beach access at the intersection of BMBR and Gulf Point Road.

Someone posted that the erosion was particularly bad in this area, with the foundations of some homes exposed. Any info is GREATLY appreciated, as I can't get in touch with the rental agency who handles the property.
JB, PM me which house is yours. (description/ address) I was down there yesterday, but it is difficult to assess the damage from the road, but you can see the cliffs begin at the edge of some of the houses near the access to which you refer. Those homes to the west of that access are noticeably in danger. I am heading that way in a little while and will check for you.

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 09:36 AM
We are in Magnolia Hill (one row back in Gulf Trace) beginning the 16th. We rented direct but need information and the owner is out of country. I didn't know there was a rental office. Can you post the number?

WITHOUT THIS SITE ALL OF US "RENTERS" WOULD HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER TO START OUR FIVE TO TWELVE HOUR TREKS TO OUR FAVORITE SPOT. GREAT COMMUNITY SERVICE!

Thanks!
I bet the office is going to be swamped for a while. The owner has suffered major damage to his personal properties. If you are one row back in Gulf Trace, there is no problem. Come on down and have a great time.

jamesc09
07-12-2005, 09:39 AM
I just wanted to let everyone know that we love Seagrove Beach and have been coming there for the past 8 years.

My family is heartbroken by the pictures of property damage and the beach erosion, but we are thankful that lives were spared.

We have a trip scheduled to Beachside Villas next week (7-16) and hope we still get to come down.

James
Maryville, TN

amylouky
07-12-2005, 09:45 AM
Thanks for all the great info! The beach looks very sad, but hopefully it will recover soon.

Did anyone happen to snap any pics of Beachside Condos? That's where we're booked for August, in one of the 2nd floor gulf front units..

Arkie
07-12-2005, 09:46 AM
I bet the office is going to be swamped for a while. The owner has suffered major damage to his personal properties. If you are one row back in Gulf Trace, there is no problem. Come on down and have a great time.

Thanks, Joe! We're coming down, no problem. The wives (read "bosses") are just worried about the kids and the local beach there. In the pictures, I didn't see a severe drop-off like there was at Seaside, etc. It looked more gradual. Since this is our first time in Gulf Trace, I'm having trouble interpreting the pictures for our wives. And if mama ain't happy....

SeaMaverick
07-12-2005, 09:52 AM
Great website...headed to Mistrals ETA 21st of this month. Our walkdown is gone of course and looking at pictures, you'ld have to have a rope ladder to get down from the unit...what is the closest beach access east or west of where we are? Many thanks and again, just a great site.
DR

martin
07-12-2005, 09:53 AM
WOW!
I need "Down BY Sea" mostly yellow and green house, right at the end of Cottage next to the entrance to the board walk. Only if you have some info avail. Don't go out of your way.
Thank you for all you are doing!!

lisab
07-12-2005, 09:57 AM
Need some advice. We have never been to this area so are not familiar with any names or structures that I have seen in pictures. We usually go to Perdido Key but could not find anywhere to stay due to Ivan damage. My family and I are scheduled to arrive July 16th to Beachfront Townhomes located on Beachfront trail. We always stay where there is not a pool because we spend all of our time on the beach. Does anyone know if the townhomes are O.K. and will we be able to access the beach once we are there? Should we reschedule? I would appreciate any advice or information.

Stay safe!

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 10:01 AM
Thanks, Joe! We're coming down, no problem. The wives (read "bosses") are just worried about the kids and the local beach there. In the pictures, I didn't see a severe drop-off like there was at Seaside, etc. It looked more gradual. Since this is our first time in Gulf Trace, I'm having trouble interpreting the pictures for our wives. And if mama ain't happy....
You are correct, there is maybe only a gentle slope to the beach. Please use extreme caution about knocking down any remaining sand because it is very precious. Stay on the path only.

Huntzman
07-12-2005, 10:12 AM
Which one? If you go to my photo album (smiling joe), you will see descriptions for each photo.


I was about to post my own request, but you caught our house in one of your pictures. That house in Grayton with the porch suspended in midair is two away from our house!

Good thing I finally registered, those were some great pics joe. Thanks so much! What a great community this board seems to be attracting. :clap_1:

lisab
07-12-2005, 10:13 AM
Thanks, Joe! We're coming down, no problem. The wives (read "bosses") are just worried about the kids and the local beach there. In the pictures, I didn't see a severe drop-off like there was at Seaside, etc. It looked more gradual. Since this is our first time in Gulf Trace, I'm having trouble interpreting the pictures for our wives. And if mama ain't happy....


Hey Arkie!!

I live north of Morrilton and we are scheduled to leave July 16th this Friday - glad to see you guys are still going. I'm still waiting to hear from the property owner that we are renting from - I know things are crazy for him.

Take care and have a great vacation!!

GraytonBound
07-12-2005, 10:15 AM
FYI....the beachwalkover at High Pointe is worse than after Ivan......it's cut off right past Cascades, where the stairs used to start......eerie sight. :(

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 10:15 AM
WOW!
I need "Down BY Sea" mostly yellow and green house, right at the end of Cottage next to the entrance to the board walk. Only if you have some info avail. Don't go out of your way.
Thank you for all you are doing!!

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100035.JPG
July 10, 2005 Cottage St beach access - Grayton Beach.

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7110007.JPG
July 11, 2005 Cottage St beach access - Grayton Beach.

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7110074.JPG
Looking back toward the Cottage St access.

Not sure which house is yours, but you are sure to have plenty of foam to clean off the building. These photos are about as close as I have to your house.

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 10:18 AM
I was about to post my own request, but you caught our house in one of your pictures. That house in Grayton with the porch suspended in midair is two away from our house!

Good thing I finally registered, those were some great pics joe. Thanks so much! What a great community this board seems to be attracting. :clap_1:


http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100089.JPG
Is this one yours?

kathydwells
07-12-2005, 10:20 AM
Could someone please check on the Seagrove Villa's and Motel for me? Just if you are in or around the area. I know the walkovers are gone, but I am worried about structural damage. Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thank you SJ and Kurt and everyone else for all the information that has been shared.

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 10:24 AM
Could someone please check on the Seagrove Villa's and Motel for me? Just if you are in or around the area. I know the walkovers are gone, but I am worried about structural damage. Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thank you SJ and Kurt and everyone else for all the information that has been shared.

Oops! When I drove by yesterday, I looked that way, and thought, "I bet that KathyDwells is wondering about her little place and that hammock." I should have stopped. Sorry.

Paula
07-12-2005, 10:26 AM
Thanks again for the information. We are staying at the turtle boy cottage as we discussed yesterday. After I posted the above I looked on the rental companies website and noticed that the damage is minimal if at all. So, we're looking forward to a relaxing vacation.

Great. See you next week. I can't wait for vacation.

Huntzman
07-12-2005, 10:27 AM
I think you may be one off (or I am). Ours is the pink one.

EDIT: ooh, that came out kinda small. but it's from your photo gallery, so you've already seen it. :razz: Once again, thank you!

kathydwells
07-12-2005, 10:28 AM
Oops! When I drove by yesterday, I looked that way, and thought, "I bet that KathyDwells is wondering about her little place and that hammock." I should have stopped. Sorry.

That's ok Joe, I think you might have been a little busy. Thanks for thinking of me though. And Yes, I have been concerned about my little hammock!!! If you get by that way sometime, just let me know. Thank you SOOOO Much!!!!

Smiling JOe
07-12-2005, 10:30 AM
http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/1/6/P7100095.JPG
This angle allows you to see what remains of the walkovers.

Huntzman, I got you. No clear shot of your house, yet, but I am on my way out the door, and my get you a shot later.
I can click on the photo and enlarge. I know your house.

beachcmbr
07-12-2005, 10:42 AM
Does anyone have any information about the Water's Edge development at Seacrest Beach? I've read the message at Beach Rentals of South Walton, but wonder whether they'll be able to remedy beach access by this Saturday, or if they're being overly optimistic? Thanks for any info!

GraytonBound
07-12-2005, 10:50 AM
Does anyone have any information about the Water's Edge development at Seacrest Beach? I've read the message at Beach Rentals of South Walton, but wonder whether they'll be able to remedy beach access by this Saturday, or if they're being overly optimistic? Thanks for any info!

we're close by & will try to check today......I would be doubtful of anything being fixed by Sat but haven't seen yours yet so can't say til we see it

ameness
07-12-2005, 10:57 AM
News for anyone renting frome Dune Allen Realty...I just spoke to the Realty office. Most, if not all, properties are not rentable. They are offering a change of dates, or booking for next year at this year's rate (and anticipating that next year's rates will increase dramatically due to the storm damage).

I was scheduled for July 23 - 30. I could cry. But my problems are small compared to those of the property owners. Especially those who depend on the rental income to pay the mortgage.

I realize it's unlikely, but if anyone knows of something available between 7/23 and 7/30 please let me know. My husband's dive trip in Panama City is still on schedule for the weekend of 7/24, but I guess the rest of the family will be sitting home wishing we were there.

Curtis
07-12-2005, 11:02 AM
Hello,

Is there any chance that those who have been taking pictures of the area after Dennis have captured photos from Baird Rd (Santa Rosa Beach-Beach Highlands Neighborhood). It is on the North side of 30-A near Butler Elem. We are currently under construction and were curious to know if the frame survived.

Thanks for any help,

Curtis

monique
07-12-2005, 11:08 AM
I saw one photo of the Sandestin beach and it looked bad. I would have to assume Gulf Pines homes would be in rough shape because all the dunes washed out 4 weeks ago with the last tropical storm and everything was very exposed.. The houses right on the beach there would have to be in trouble now. I am going down tomorrow to see.

Sea Star
07-12-2005, 11:13 AM
Smilin Joe -

So glad to hear from you again. I heard some disturbing news about bldg. 1 at Eastern Shores. Do you know what is going on there? We are scheduled for 2 weeks at bldg. 2 in October, have been staying there 9 years and are curious. Thanks so much for all you do for peeps on this board. I know you must be very busy, but those of us who are landlocked really appreciate your efforts.

WLD
07-12-2005, 11:15 AM
Check with WaterColor cottage rentals, they are open for business today.

beachcomber
07-12-2005, 11:16 AM
Anyone w/news on Old Florida Cottages?....thanks

kmadkins
07-12-2005, 11:22 AM
Looking for information on Sea Haunts at Santa Rosa Beach. We are leaving the 16th for a 2 week vacation and are wondering about beach access at Santa Rosa. From what I've seen I'm guessing it may be gone! Is everything else business as usual? Restaurants, etc? Do they generally get debris picked up fairly quickly? We are renting through private owner and would just like some general post-hurricane information so we know what to expect.

beachcomber
07-12-2005, 11:23 AM
Philip, thanks for the update...my house is in ofc too...have you got any pictures...what are you going to do about your rentors?...where in the neighborhood is your house and are you going down soon? thanks

mbritton
07-12-2005, 11:24 AM
We are scheduled to stay at the Beachside Villas in Seagrove. Do you have any information on the buildings and the beach? THANKS!

FourP's
07-12-2005, 11:31 AM
All I can say is thank you so much for this forum---without it I would have been even more frustrated! I was bringing my family down for the first time (July 10-17th) to stay in 'Knick of Time' and couldn't have been more excited---however, nature had other plans and so rather than "chillin' on the beach" we are mopping up our own Dennis remnants here in ATL. Luckily, from the pictures, my problems are minimal and my heart goes out to you all. My 14 year old says we have bad vacation karma but I say we just have disappointing vacation karma---we are healthy and safe and seems as if most everyone there is too. I hope we get an opportunity to visit next year---this week was it for us, so guess it is not to be. From the postings and the rental company's (South Walton Beach Rentals) update, I assume all is off for this week---there is still no answer from their office. Lastly, from the community spirit I have observed here on this forum, I will highly encourage my folks, who are looking for a beach retirement in the panhandle, to consider your community. Thanks and if there is any additional information you can provide about future renting, etc., let me know.

JQ (Four P's)

Beachfamily
07-12-2005, 11:34 AM
Does anybody know if the 12,000 Pool in Seacrest is opened or when it will be opend. Where would the closes beach access be for the Village of South Walton

STL Don
07-12-2005, 11:41 AM
I spoke to someone at the office yesterday and she said that the property came through without any significant damage. She said that the beach walk over was "embedded in the sand".

kygirl
07-12-2005, 12:04 PM
We were scheduled to visit Dunes at Seagrove Aug 6-13. Unfortunately we (as a family) have decided that it would be best to reschedule. We have little ones who were looking forward to playing in the sand. If anyone would be interested in taking our week, please email us. kygirl

gotothebeachmom
07-12-2005, 12:18 PM
Does anybody know if the 12,000 Pool in Seacrest is opened or when it will be opend. Where would the closes beach access be for the Village of South Walton

Russ, our fabulous pool man was out bright and early working on the pool at Seacrest. I will post as soon as I can find out when it will be open. It was in pretty good shape.

As far as beach access, that is questionable right now. No answer for you there. Sorry.

Beach Fan
07-12-2005, 12:18 PM
Does anyone have any info on Commodore's Retreat Condo, pool, and beach area? :idontno: We are supposed to arrive 7-16, and haven't had any luck getting through for info from Garrett Realty. Would appreciate ANY info or photos. Thanks!!

ssmith24
07-12-2005, 12:22 PM
any news on the beachcrest condos at seagrove. renting through garrett realty and they are still not open. suppose to check in sunday (17th) afternoon, but have no idea if we will be able to. any info would help.

gotothebeachmom
07-12-2005, 12:24 PM
Does anybody know if the 12,000 Pool in Seacrest is opened or when it will be opend. Where would the closes beach access be for the Village of South Walton

Answered too quick. Just got word Seacrest pool is open for business!!!!! :clap_1:

No word still on beach access.

wetwilly
07-12-2005, 12:26 PM
Anyone know how the West side of Eastern Lake faired? I know the Chelsea Loop access is out and the Ramsgate and some of the gulf front houses near or infront of Summer's Edge look damaged but how did the Eastern Lake walkover at the end of Eastern Lake Rd and South Gulf fair? We have a house close to there and heard that everything that is not gulf front was undamaged but no news on the walkover at Eastern Lake. I know it was not rebuilt after Ivan but did it get worse (because it was still passable/usable).

Any info or a picture would make my day.

Thanks in a :laughing1 dvance.

wetwilly
07-12-2005, 12:28 PM
Sorry for the smily face/laughing smily....I hit the wrong button since I am new to this site. This is obviously not a smiling/laughing matter. We appreciate all of the info from everyone on this site. Keep it coming and thanks a million.

kathydwells
07-12-2005, 12:31 PM
Sorry for the smily face/laughing smily....I hit the wrong button since I am new to this site. This is obviously not a smiling/laughing matter. We appreciate all of the info from everyone on this site. Keep it coming and thanks a million.

That is ok...we won't beat you for it!!!!

Juju2100
07-12-2005, 12:37 PM
Hi :) I found this message board in my quest for some information on the area after Dennis. I must say its been the most helpful resource by far. Good job to all those involved.

My family and I have Big W in Blue Mountain Beach rented for the week beginning August 6. I've never been to that area so I know nothing about the beaches and surrounding communities. So to help out a newbie, can I expect that area and beach to be mostly debris free and ready by then? I know that prior to Dennis it was a short walk to the beach. Anyone know what kind of trek we'll have to make now since the stairs are destroyed?

Thanks!

susanmartin
07-12-2005, 12:53 PM
Does anyone know the House called Grande View, and is it. Also, how are the beaches in Seacrest

tariail
07-12-2005, 01:20 PM
If anyone happens to be going by the neighborhood of the Village of Sugar Beach behind Cafe 30A and Angelino's, we would appreciate any information, particularly as to our house, Emerald Escape, at 119 Sugar Sand Lane, light green house at end of street, corner lot. We boarded up this time. Last time water got in around the back downstairs windows and the upstairs french doors.

I hope all of you fared very well. Thanks to everyone who has reported information, and especially Kurt for all he does!

Tim

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Passatfish
07-12-2005, 01:59 PM
I just got through to BRoSW and they said we are good to come down Saturday!! Now it's official..... :clap_1:

Sailin'
07-12-2005, 02:01 PM
Folks,

We've been walking and driving the area for the past day and a half. We have scores of photos, but do not have the time to post them all here at the moment (PLEASE do not post asking if I have a photo of this or that house...!)

Let us provide a dose or reality for the vacationers who are headed our way.

We just took a hit from a Category 3 Hurricane. At this moment there is another storm (Emily) headed towards the Caribbean and who knows where after. The damage is devastating. Mosty of the homes built under the post Andrew code requirements fared well. But there are other issues that are going to take time to sort out.

If you are planning on visiting our lovely area in the next few weeks, then you need to realisitically understand that the beaches are NOT going to be refurbished, the walkovers will NOT all be replaced, and all the debris will NOT be picked up by the time you arrive on Saturday.

What existed along 30A last Saturday changed radically by Monday.

Yes, tourism is the lifeblood of our economy here. Yes, we know how you have planned and dreamed about your vacation in our area. Yes, we realize that your kids expect to be able to play in our wonderful sand beaches...

But no one has a magic wand that can make it like it was overnight.

You need to manage your expectations. Scroll back through this discussion thread and look at the pictures posted here. They represent the length and breadth of what happened along 30-A. Most of the beach is gone. Debris is piled everwhere. Most of the walkovers are gone - and if they could replace them overnight, there is still the beach erosion situation.

The local agencies will work as fast as humanly possible to get things fixed - but it ain't gonna happen by the time you are scheduled to arrive this Saturday, or next Saturday or the Saturday after that.

We own rental property on Captiva which was slammed by Charley last year. Many rental properties in that area are still not repaired or available this summer season - and it has been 10 months since the hurricane.

Our properties here fared better - but we have damage. We will lose rental income and there are families that are very disappointed that they have to change plans at the last minute. We empathize with them. But there is nothing that we can do.

We hope that your rental property here is available for you when you were planning to come - but be realistic in your expectations of what you'll find regarding the beaches, walkovers, storm debris etc. when you get here. There are only so many people and so many resources available to fix things and it takes time. There is NOT a giant mountain of white sand hidden somewhere that can be placed on the beach tonight.

What you will find is folks who have a positive attitude and will make your stay as amenable as possible. Many of the people who will take your order in our restaurants, bag your groceries in our supermarkets or mix your drinks at our bars have suffered damage and/or loss of their personal homes. You may be slightly inconvenienced for a week. These folks will smile and help you all day and then go home to deal with their problems at night, and they'll still be doing so weeks from now, long after you've returned home.

So come visit us. Bring the kids. Let them see how powerful mother nature can be but also let them see how a community comes together and helps its people through a tough time. :welcome:

Sometimes a little adversity makes for an interesting experience.

Mike & Stephanie
Bradenton, FL / Atlanta, GA

MG
07-12-2005, 02:04 PM
I just got through to BRoSW and they said we are good to come down Saturday!! Now it's official..... :clap_1:
:clap_1: WooHoo! We are headed down on Sunday and renting with BRofSW so that is awesome news!

JB
07-12-2005, 02:05 PM
Great post, Sailin'. Couldn't have said it better myself.

spinDrAtl
07-12-2005, 02:11 PM
High Pointe has personnel in the rental office today. I think the pool may be ready to go also, but not 100% sure.

Minimal damage outside of the walkover being clipped off at the top of the steps, as someone noted earlier. I had heard that there may be some beach access near Rosemary somewhere, and also down by Inlet Beach, but this is unconfirmed also.

OhioBeachBum
07-12-2005, 02:13 PM
I saw a notice in today's (07/12) edition of a local online paper (www.nwfdailynews.com), bottom of page A5, that said "Walton County beaches remain closed until further notice.". Not unexpected under the circumstances.

Add insult to injury, 5 day storm track forcast for Emily looks disturbingly similar to the Dennis track... :bang:

Joe / Kurt & other helpful locals: You all and this site has been both a big help and an eye-opener - thanks much. We make it down next year (looks like a bust hand this year), going to devote at least one day out of the week to pay-forward in the beach area. Not much, but maybe a small counter-balance for some of the less enlightened visitors...

Natureboy
07-12-2005, 02:33 PM
We are headed down to Blue Mountain Wednesday. What will be the closest beach access. I know most walkovers are gone in that area. My family has been coming to the area for years and is not going to let this storm stop us from having a wonderful time. Thanks for providing a place to get acurate information, or the decision may have been different. :clap_1:

JB
07-12-2005, 02:44 PM
We are headed down to Blue Mountain Wednesday. What will be the closest beach access. I know most walkovers are gone in that area. My family has been coming to the area for years and is not going to let this storm stop us from having a wonderful time. Thanks for providing a place to get acurate information, or the decision may have been different. :clap_1:

Purely a guess, as I have not seen it first hand, but considering the bluff at Blue Mountain, I doubt there is any way to access the beach there. Your closest alternative would be either Grayton or Ed Walline. Either would require driving (and you would have nowhere to park at Grayton.

I hope your rental has a pool :lol:

GraytonBound
07-12-2005, 02:51 PM
High Pointe has personnel in the rental office today. I think the pool may be ready to go also, but not 100% sure.

Minimal damage outside of the walkover being clipped off at the top of the steps, as someone noted earlier. I had heard that there may be some beach access near Rosemary somewhere, and also down by Inlet Beach, but this is unconfirmed also.

Pool is not ready but they're working on....cant get on the beach at Rosemary.....got there at Inlet & walked to High Pointe...severe damage to gulf front houses at Inlet.

Driving on 30-A you can really see no signs of damage to houses.

ka