Shades at the Loop - The best creme brulee in Florida

[Cork On the Ocean]

The owner of Shades on the Loop was so concerned about a thread on another board that he contacted me and urged me to come back to Shades ..... so CorK did! This says a lot about a restaurant owner that he truly cares that patrons have a good experience and Joe does! Tonight Kat and I visited Shades. We were seated promptly, our waiter was right there for us and provided great service.

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I had the wings (naked) - quite tasty and Kat had the Ceasar Salad which was great! We weren't real hungry but next time I can wait to try the Carmelized ? Pork. mmmm, sounds great. Kat's had an excellent Merlot and I had a good strong rum and cokes.

After dinner, we splurged for the Creme Brulee. IT WAS THE ABSOLUTELY BEST I've ever had- better than I had even in Paris. We were absolutely thrilled to meet Joe the proprietor who's a really nice guy. He's listened to us, addressed the issues of a new and busy restaurant with his staff and has made Shades on the Loop one of my new favorite places on 30A.

If you've tried Shades on the Loop before - try it again and it will only be better. Joe is a hands on owner who works on the premises a billion hours a week and truly cares. Thank you Joe for being you! :wub:

[Mango]

Yummy, I'll be going there when I get down to the beach. Creme brulee is one of favs. :wub:

[Tootsie]

Wow and thanks Cork for this review. I've been there a few times and while I really enjoyed the atmosphere, the food experience was lacking in some ways. But will gladly give it another try!!!

[DD]

Sounds yummy! :biggrin:

[jdarg]

Did...you...say...creme brulee??

I'm a custard-before-chocolate kinda girl.:D

[lindatat]

We had a great lunch at Shades when we visited. We would definitely go back.

Now to go off on a tangent (and what thread would be complete without a tangent) I had some to-die-for Creme Brulee cheesecake at Smiling Fish Cafe that same week. Now I have something to try for dessert at Shades next time!

[imasunbum]

The Oyster PoBoys are BAD (as in good) ;-)

[katie blue]

Mr B and I REALLY want to love Shades, as it's so close to us. We went last year with another couple shortly after they opened but hadn't been back since. Maybe things have improved? I hope so, definitely will give it another try. Good management can change anything.

Our experience (from last year, mind you, things may have changed) was that the decor was nice but "sterile" as our friends put it. (Hey, they were brand new, so of course it was.) We ordered the grouper, which was average at best. It was too fishy tasting, obviously not 100% fresh, but it was late on a Sunday night which may explain that. But the worst part was the too-cool-for-school waiter that night. There were hardly any customers in the place, but we couldn't get the waiters attention away from his co-workers, and when he did come around he never once made eye contact...we felt like we were bothering him to be there. So we never returned. I'll give it another try though, since Joe seems to really care about the customers. I'll assume that "waiter" is no longer employed there...

[TreeFrog]

There seems to have been a lot of turnover in wait staff. I find the service more attentive at the bar.

Cork - Glad to hear about Joe's hands-on attention. It seems to me that the food has improved in my recent visits, maybe his work bearing fruit. My last dinner was an iceberg wedge followed by the "oyster clump" or "oyster pile" or whatever they call the appetizer that's a big pile of their always good fried oysters. Both were just right.

[Tootsie]

Mr B and I REALLY want to love Shades, as it's so close to us. We went last year with another couple shortly after they opened but hadn't been back since. Maybe things have improved? I hope so, definitely will give it another try. Good management can change anything.

Our experience (from last year, mind you, things may have changed) was that the decor was nice but "sterile" as our friends put it. (Hey, they were brand new, so of course it was.) We ordered the grouper, which was average at best. It was too fishy tasting, obviously not 100% fresh, but it was late on a Sunday night which may explain that. But the worst part was the too-cool-for-school waiter that night. There were hardly any customers in the place, but we couldn't get the waiters attention away from his co-workers, and when he did come around he never once made eye contact...we felt like we were bothering him to be there. So we never returned. I'll give it another try though, since Joe seems to really care about the customers. I'll assume that "waiter" is no longer employed there...

I also ordered the grouper (last year after they opened) and it was inedible.

I've seen that they have a lot of business at lunch and dinner - not too many restaurants down that way. I was never impressed with the original seaside shades restaurant, but of course they had plenty of tourist business. This is the problem with many of our restaurants - they are going to get the business whether they offer good food/service or not (everyone on vacation is looking for a place to sit, relax and let someone serve them food and drinks). But, if they can turn out really good food, then they will get the locals all year round in addition to tourists during the season.

[potatovixen]

I also really want to like this place, but I just can't seem to get into it.

The service I've received has never been great, but I haven't been in a few months, so things may've changed. The food I've had has been good, but not worth the money.

I'll have to give it another shot.

[JB]

Wierd bunch of reviews on this place. How can some say it is SO good, and others say it is SO bad. Surely it's not THAT inconsistent. :idontno:

[Paula]

I've been to Shades by the Loop quite a few times since it opened because I, too, am interested in trying out and supporting restaurants on the east end of 30A, close to us. I think their oyster po'boys are among the best I've had (along with those at Hurricanes and Village Market -- also very good). In general, I've liked their food. At least in the past, their service has been slow and I agree that some of the staff seemed somewhat uppity rather than in a "can I serve you well and quickly" mood, but that may have changed and I'll definitely go there in August with the family (maybe 7 people) to try out that creme brulee! The only other advice I'd offer if the owner is reading this is to be sure the waiters have little aprons with pockets for their order/check books - some of them store them in the back of their pants and that's a bit odd (they take your order and then stick the order book down their belt/pants on their backside -- something doesn't seem right about that). We laugh about that when we are there (maybe that's not happening now). I go there by myself sometime for an oyster po'boy and to use the wireless internet for lunch.

[TreeFrog]

Wierd bunch of reviews on this place. How can some say it is SO good, and others say it is SO bad. Surely it's not THAT inconsistent. :idontno:

Sometimes I think the restaurant suffers from trying to be all things to all people. Specifically:

-The decor and layout are stylish, but neither cozy nor elegant. People like to be able to pigeonhole a place. You know, Seagrove Market=funky, Cafe 30A=casual elegance, Borago=loud and happy, etc.
-The menu isn't exactly "beach seafood place" nor is it "fine dining". Again, inability to pigeonhole.
-The bar has a bit of "sports bar" with the big screens on ESPN.

I think there actually HAS been some inconsistency in the food and service in the past. I'm glad to hear from Cork's review that Joe is working on it. My own recent personal experience suggests the food is better. Hoping the service will improve too...

Having said that all, it's one of my regular places. There are good dependable items on the menu (I agree they do fried oysters well and find their grilled grouper second to only Seagrove Market). The service at the bar is good. I'm happy they are there.

[potatovixen]

[QUOTE=TreeFrog] My own recent personal experience suggests the food is better.[QUOTE]

I can agree with that. The last time I was there, the food had greatly improved from what it had been.

[Tootsie]

Wierd bunch of reviews on this place. How can some say it is SO good, and others say it is SO bad. Surely it's not THAT inconsistent. :idontno:

well, it seems that this is one restaurant that has been very inconsistent. Before this thread, I had never heard anyone say they could recommend Shades... I sincerely hope this is changing through good management and consistently good service and food.

[Paula]

I agree with others on this board that many of us are becoming "regulars" waiting for the kinks to be worked out because the location, quality of food, etc., show great promise (in my opinion). And it sounds like the owner is working on the kinks and isn't taking anything for granted (and that's a good thing). I wish Shades great success. And, again, I'm looking forward to an oyster po'boy and now creme brulee, too. I definitely could make this a routine stop on my way from Panama City airport to 30A if it's mealtime...

[kurt]

In the summer there are enough visitors that a place can survive, if not thrive, with bad food and service. Hopefully better communications and new methods such as this forum will make them improve or suffer.

The locals know where to go and they help the good ones in the offseason pay the bills.

Cork mentioned wings (and creme brulee what a combo :D ), as a wing addict I say MoJo's in Sandestin were the best and the ones I had at the new Shade's didn't measure up. They were a bit better at the old locale.

BTW - MoJo's is now closed and another wing joint took over 1/2 the space. i Haven't tried them yet. MoJo's didn't have a clue how to get people through the door and it's too bad cause they had good product and should have been packed all the time but then they never asked me. :lol:

Fried chicken and good sauce is not brain surgery. :bang:

[Beach Runner]

We've been to the new Shades every month this year except June (daughter was with us, and she'd rather cook). The food had greatly improved on our last visit. The grouper in the grouper sandwich was large and well-cooked just like the old Shades (as opposed to small and overcooked as in previous visits). I enjoyed the house salad with grilled fish and their signature sweet pepper vinaigrette.

If you're a fan of the old Shades, in my opinion you can only enjoy the new Shades if you just wipe those memories out of your head. The atmosphere is very cold, and it's very noisy. The waiters run around in a frenzy. Not like the funky, laid-back atmosphere of the old Shades.

We will be back, especially when we drive down for short stays in the off-season and don't want to take the time to grocery shop, cook, and do dishes. We also enjoy the sports bar atmosphere at Shades in the off-season because it allows us to dine while watching college football and college basketball which we're very into. http://home.earthlink.net/~beachrunner/gatorSmiley.gif

[Suncat]

We've been to the new Shades every month this year except June (daughter was with us, and she'd rather cook). The food had greatly improved on our last visit. The grouper in the grouper sandwich was large and well-cooked just like the old Shades (as opposed to small and overcooked as in previous visits). I enjoyed the house salad with grilled fish and their signature sweet pepper vinaigrette.

If you're a fan of the old Shades, in my opinion you can only enjoy the new Shades if you just wipe those memories out of your head. The atmosphere is very cold, and it's very noisy. The waiters run around in a frenzy. Not like the funky, laid-back atmosphere of the old Shades.

We will be back, especially when we drive down for short stays in the off-season and don't want to take the time to grocery shop, cook, and do dishes. We also enjoy the sports bar atmosphere at Shades in the off-season because it allows us to dine while watching college football and college basketball which we're very into. http://home.earthlink.net/~beachrunner/gatorSmiley.gif


As fans of the old Shades, we will be trying out the new one for the first time this week. I'm glad to hear that the sweet pepper vinagarette is still available, although I think you said previously that the squeeze bottles of it are no longer on the table-- :(

We're also anxious to see how the wings compare, along with our other favorites. Sorry to hear that the atmosphere is not as laid back and we also hate to have to drive there now instead of walk or bike. Appreciate all the comments and reviews.

[Mango]

We had a great lunch at Shades when we visited. We would definitely go back.

Now to go off on a tangent (and what thread would be complete without a tangent) I had some to-die-for Creme Brulee cheesecake at Smiling Fish Cafe that same week. Now I have something to try for dessert at Shades next time!

Uh oh, now I have to try them both!!

[jpfreer]

Thanks to everyone for your comments about the restaurant. Our years in Seaside are cherished but the time had come (unwillingly) to separate ourselves and open another door for adventure.
I appreciate all the feedback from our local guests as well as those visiting for a vacation. I enjoyed sitting with Debbie and Kat and discussing local issues as well as address the concerns Deb had on a previous visit. I love the good comments and loathe the bad but it helps me learn something everyday about this business. I am very committed to my restaurant and expect every guest to leave happy, full and satisfied.
If there is ever a concern or a suggestion that you have feel free to tell myself, Darren, Daniel or one of my staff and we will do what it takes to make your experience a great one.
Thank you,
Joe Freer

P.S.
I wanted to let everyone know that the wings we serve at Shades are our recipe for our restaurants called Taco Mac in Atlanta. I grew up in Buffalo, New York and I am very proud of our Chicken Wings. The sauce is a special blend (secret) that has been around since my partner Greg first brought chicken wings to the Southeast in 1979. I personally drive the sauce down here about once a month when I come back from Atlanta. "Bon Appetit"
I really hope you enjoy them !!!!!:clap_1:

Thanks again to everyone and make it a great day !

Heart, Body, Soul

Joe

[TooFarTampa]

:welcome: Joe. Glad to hear you care about the feedback, and thanks for your post! We have a house in Seacrest and have visited the new Shades 5 or 6 times now, the last time in April. The food has ranged from good to very good and the service has been OK to terrible. (Though the terrible was late fall/winter ... awhile ago.) We're coming back in a week and will definitely check it out again. I want to be able to wholeheartedly recommend it to our renters because they are always looking for convenient places to eat. We wish you good food and lots of success. :clap_1:

[kurt]

JP thanks for posting. The sauce is tasty but the last batch I had were not cooked properly. Improper oil temp and/or cooked not quite long enough (and I always order extra crispy to avoid that) = greasy (pronounced greezy). Maybe I'm not the norm but I always order with sauce on the side because I like sauce with my chicken not the other way around. If you drown a wing in sauce I guess it doesn't really matter how you cook them to most people.

[katie blue]

Hi Joe, glad you're reading our feedback and posting back to us! I'm looking forward to going back and being able to write a glowing update.

Wow, so you're the Taco Mac/Crickets/Dugans people? I used to know Shelly (your sister or daughter, perhaps?) back in the day. Your family are pros in this business, that's for sure, so I know you guys will be doing whatever it takes to make it a success. All your ATL places are funky and approachable, and if you can retain that vibe at Shades, it's something we desperately need on the east end. The previous restaurant in your location was good, but was too polished and upscale to make us want to go there regularly. We really miss the Jolly Roger in Inlet beach that closed in 2004--it had the best bar, great acoustic music and food---you could totally capture that market. Good luck, and we'll see you down there next time.

[Paula]

:clap_1: Joe. thanks for listening.

[Tootsie]

JP thanks for posting. The sauce is tasty but the last batch I had were not cooked properly. Improper oil temp and/or cooked not quite long enough (and I always order extra crispy to avoid that) = greasy (pronounced greezy). Maybe I'm not the norm but I always order with sauce on the side because I like sauce with my chicken not the other way around. If you drown a wing in sauce I guess it doesn't really matter how you cook them to most people.

you know the saying, you are what you eat? Kirky-baby IS a chicken wing... the end.

[TreeFrog]

We really miss the Jolly Roger in Inlet beach that closed in 2004

Me too.

[TreeFrog]

Thanks to everyone for your comments about the restaurant. I am very committed to my restaurant and expect every guest to leave happy, full and satisfied.

Thanks to you, Joe, for your constructive personal attention to our comments. I'll be back to Shades on the Loop again soon.

[skippertoo]

HI Joe ! :welcome: We also hope all turns out well for the new Shades. We also like that we can get the Taco Mac wings if we get homesick !. We eat almost every Friday night at Va Highlands location.
Would you share the recipe for the Sweet Pepper Vinegarette ?????? PLEASE

[WJL]

We have been to shades 8 or 10 times....for a casual dinner, the food is fine and has at times been really good-the only thing that bothers me is that the wait staff has been sketchy at best...maybe it's because Shades is still in a relatively slow traffic area(thank goodness) and the better waiters/waitresses are farther West on 30-a.....it is so close to us we just tolerate it.....things could be worse that an empty water glass.....

[Beach Runner]

HI Joe ! :welcome: We also hope all turns out well for the new Shades. We also like that we can get the Taco Mac wings if we get homesick !. We eat almost every Friday night at Va Highlands location.
Would you share the recipe for the Sweet Pepper Vinegarette ?????? PLEASE
They won't give out that recipe. I've tried for years. The guy who used to work there and does the magic tricks (brain freeze - forgot his name) gave us a sketchy recipe:

Combine a two-to-one ratio of sugar to apple cider vinegar and bring to a boil. Remove from heat. Then add pepper, garlic salt, and salt to taste. Add enough vegetable oil to have a three-to-one oil to vinegar ratio.

Never could make it taste the same and gave up.

Skippertoo, coincidentally our daughter was at that Taco Mac last Thursday. I've never been - she says we ought to try it. We usually end up at Doc Chey's when we're in that part of town.

[BEACHBUG]

I Agree...the Nachos Are Also Great....and The Wedge Salad...we Ate Their Twice And Had A Great Meal And Great Service Both Times....loved It!!!!

[Beach Runner]

We like the wedge, too, even though it's just iceburg lettuce. But it's so crisp, and with the sweet pepper vinaigrette ... tasty!