331 Accident Bad News

[ShallowsNole]

there has been a serious accident on the 331 causeway this evening (Saturday 6/24). Please avoid that area tonight if possible...whole lotta southbound (and northbound) traffic backed up. If you have friends or family on the way down, may want to contact them and advise them to take an alternate route tonight.

FHP traffic incident site confirms one fatality; hub is about to go on duty and called substation and was advised three fatalities. I am hoping he misunderstood.

Please, lets all be careful -

[Smiling JOe]

Please keep us informed, ShallowsNole.

[beachmouse]

So that could be why traffic was backing up more than usual during the evening on the Mid Bay Bridge. Usually it seems like the Saturday traffic there starts to calm down around dinner time.

Crazy day out there today. There was also a motorcycle wreck on FL 20 in Seminole by that no-name gas station that tends to have gas when no one else does because a lot of people forget it's there. That one looked painful but non-fatal from what we could see of it.

[Allifunn]

:( :( :( :(

[Franny]

We saw all the lights and heard sirens from the bay. Then we saw two med choppers fly over so we knew it was bad. So sad.

[Allifunn]

any news? I hate things like this...no time is good...but during vacation time....:( :( The whole time I drove my kids down there I was very aware of being extra careful! So many more people on the road...and so many distractions these days!

[kathydwells]

It is so sad..I tried to get to the Walton Sun, but I think they are having issues. I have a subscription, but it is messed up today. I am going to keep trying.

[ShallowsNole]

I'm sure the official release is out by now, but four in all. :( :( :( :(

[DD]

:(

[beachmouse]

Short article from the Daily News:

http://tinyurl.com/m4sj8

" SANTA ROSA BEACH — Three people died and four more were taken to area hospitals Saturday after a traffic accident at the foot of the Clyde B. Wells Bridge in Walton County.

District Chief Marc Anderson, of the South Walton Fire District, said firefighters were called to the accident on the north side of the bridge just before 5 p.m.

He said three people, two in one vehicle and one in a second vehicle, died at the scene...."

[InletBchDweller]

How sad.... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_6.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS)


People please be careful....

[30A Skunkape]

Jeez, I must have missed this wreck narrowly. I was going north at 4:45PM. I must say, there were sooo many people southbound on 331 when I was going north. Most looked to be heading down for vacation. It was so heavy, the exit ramps on I-10 at 331 were congested! I know after I spend 4 hours in a car getting to SOWAL I get excited too, but this is a good lesson to stay focused until you pull into your accomodations!

[Floridaz]

Watch out for women drivers from Dothan or anyone from Louisiana...:eek:

[30A Skunkape]

Watch out for women drivers from Dothan or anyone from Louisiana...:eek:

Hanging curveball has been served-up... :lol:

[Panhandler]

Here is the Sun's story:

http://story.waltonsun.com/article.display.db.php?a=788

[DD]

Terrible. :(

[TooFarTampa]

Watch out for women drivers from Dothan or anyone from Louisiana...:eek:
You are a moron.


Those poor, poor people. I am heartbroken for that family. :( :(

[30A Skunkape]

Here is the Sun's story:

http://story.waltonsun.com/article.display.db.php?a=788

Good lord that is scary...I really must have missed the wreck by minutes :shock:

[Allifunn]

You are a moron.


Those poor, poor people. I am heartbroken for that family. :( :(Amen sister! Why would this person make such an insensitive statement?????:idontno:

What a sad, sad thing:( :(

[Allifunn]

Here is the Sun's story:

http://story.waltonsun.com/article.display.db.php?a=788Reading this just makes me want to cry

[DD]

Reading this just makes me want to cry

me too.

[InletBchDweller]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_13_2.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS) WHF!!!!


I grew up in Dothan and
livied in Louiaiana for years!!! This makes nooooo sense whatsoever!!!!

Why dont you think about the 14 year old that just lost both parents....Watch out for women drivers from Dothan or anyone from Louisiana...:eek:

[Allifunn]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_13_2.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS) WHF!!!!


I grew up in Dothan and
livied in Louiaiana for years!!! This makes nooooo sense whatsoever!!!!

Why dont you think about the 14 year old that just lost both parents....:clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1:

[Mango]

I can't even type-but I just received a call from the family involved in the accident, and they were supposed to be my guests. I can't even speak.
They were renting my home and the one next door as a group.
Margie Rook and her husband passed away. They had one of their daughters in the car with them and her friend. The daughter survived, bu tthe friend is in ICU. Their son and duaghter are staying tonight in my home and returning by plane tomorrow home.
They were hit by a drunk driver going in the opposite direction.

Please pray for them. They lost their mother and father.

[Miss Kitty]

:( Oh Mango...I had just read the story of this accident on another thread. This is so tragic.

[Mango]

I always call my guests to check and make sure they arrive alright.
I tried at 7 pm - no answer, tried again at 9 pm. I had a weird feeling.

I offered to help with flight arrangements. I feel so terrible.
Margie Rook's best friend called me crying and told me how loevely our places were and how they wished they could have all enjoyed it together.
I can't imagine the horror the family must be enduring right now.

My neighbor and I are in shock.

[JB]

This is just really horrible. And this kind of thing happens far too often. When we are in SoWal, I don't even let my wife venture off 30-A because it is so dangerous.

Prayers for this family.

[30A Skunkape]

Good lord this is depressing. That idiot from Freeport needs to serve some serious time in the pen.

[DD]

Oh Mango. My heart goes out to these families. They are in my prayers. I will be thinking of you too--I can only imagine how you must feel. :( :(

[TooFarTampa]

Good lord this is depressing. That idiot from Freeport needs to serve some serious time in the pen.

No kidding.

Mango -- I was worried about my renters too until I read the story. Then I thought that even if they weren't my renters, they were somebody else's. So sad for that family. So sorry for you and your neighbor. I'm sure you feel so helpless. :(

[gotothebeachmom]

How tragic for all involved. :( So many lives changed in an instant. So sad.

[olive]

I had guests in town this weekend who drove up on the accident right after it happened and said it was the worst thing they had ever seen.

My heart goes out to the Rook Family.

[sue]

I just came in from the beach to check in because I had heard about this accident. All of us are so blessed--it makes me want to hug everyone I am here with--what a sobering story--we'll be praying for them--

[kathydwells]

Mango, I am so, so sorry for this family and for how you must be feeling. I will keep them all and you in my prayers. Words just aren't enough.

[Allifunn]

Oh Mango... how horrible! I can't even imagine how you must feel...words are so inadequate in times like this. How sad for every one, what was supposed to be such a happy event. My heart goes out to the families involved!

[Lady D]

:( That is so sad and horrible. I cannot imagine. We came in 331 last year! And if I can bet, the drunk driver probably was not hurt! That seems to happen alot of times! They need to be thrown under the jail, regardless of how hurt!

[sweet]

So SO Sorry
My prayers are with the family
The kids have lost there parents
Because someone made a bad choice

[Mango]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_13_2.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS) WHF!!!!


I grew up in Dothan and
livied in Louiaiana for years!!! This makes nooooo sense whatsoever!!!!

Why dont you think about the 14 year old that just lost both parents....

The Rooks' also had a son who is 23. Both of them will be staying in my house tonight and departing back to Ohio tomorrow via plane.
The drunk driver survived, and now he has to live with what he's done for the rest of his life.
I spoke with Margie Rook this week, and she was a very sweet lady.

[Lady D]

:( The drunk driver may have no conscience. I am sure this person probably has driven home drunk many other times up 331, just luckily never caused an accident. If they would throw the book at these people and put them in jail for more than 30 days then things like this accident would never have happened. And if they are repeat offenders, why are they out on the street? Probably here illegally, no drivers license or insurance either! And it sure won't bring back the parents of that 14 year old girl and her brother! So sad! You never know when you leave for a destination if you will make it or not! Just have to hope you do!

I can tell you they have no conscience!

[ShallowsNole]

Oh, Mango...now I'm sitting here with tears streaming down my cheeks. Bless their hearts, and yours too. Wow.

[JB]

The more I think about this, the more upset - and the more angry - I get. This guy should be charged with vehicular homicide and put away for the rest of his life. This is murder, pure and simple.

This could have happened to any one of us.

[kathydwells]

The more I think about this, the more upset - and the more angry - I get. This guy should be charged with vehicular homicide and put away for the rest of his life. This is murder, pure and simple.

This could have happened to any one of us.

My thoughts exactly JB. I hope he get's everything and more than he deserves. I will be driving that road in a few day's and I am a nervous wreck...

[newyorker]

What an awful story this has turned into!! We take 331 into Seagrove every time we come to SOWAL, so I could picture where the accident took place. And Mango--I too am near tears with the involvement you have to face in this tragedy. Dear god--how awful!
I will say that in NY, this would be vehicular homicide and the person responsible would serve a prison term.

I cannot imagine the heartache the young 14 year old is now facing--

We all can only hope that justice is meted out to the drunk driver responsible for this tragedy--careful driving, wearing seat belts, being sober--was no good in this instance when someone else was so irresponsible and so self-centered and immoral to drive drunk. Mango--godspeed for your work too.

[Lady D]

Kathy, we came that route last year. I will be apprehensive about coming 331 this year from Florala. But even on 65 through Alabama people drive like they are going to run over you.

[Floridaz]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_13_2.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS) WHF!!!!


I grew up in Dothan and
livied in Louiaiana for years!!! This makes nooooo sense whatsoever!!!!

Why dont you think about the 14 year old that just lost both parents....

You must be a woman too...not to take away from this tragic accident...you have no idea why I feel this way...and without asking...your the moron...



One more thing...coming from someone who obviously lives in the "projects" of South Walton... :funn:



Hope the survivors have a speedy recovery...

[Lady D]

[QUOTE=Floridaz]You must be a woman too...not to take away from this tragic accident...you have no idea why I feel this way...and without asking...your the moron...



One more thing...coming from someone who obviously lives in the "projects" of South Walton... :funn:



:nono1: Floridaz, don't know where you are going with this comment, but Inlet Beach is hardly considered the "projects" of South Walton, if you are referring to them as that. A very nice area. All of 30A I am sure is a nice area. What you are rambling on about doesn't make any sense! Three Mexican men, probably illegal as I earlier stated, probably no drivers licenses nor car insurance either.

[Ocean Lover]

I'm sooo sorry to hear about this. It really could have been any of us. I'm glad it wasn't but I'm so sad for the family and for Mango. Everyone will be in my prayers. Travel safe all.

[Sandcastle]

We drive from Tallahassee to Seagrove at least three times each month. It seem like every time we make the trip we see a new roadside memorial. It doesn’t matter if we take I-10 or SR20, there’s always a new one somewhere along the way.

Two weeks ago we saw the Florida Highway Patrol escorting a couple who were placing flowers on a new cross beside I-10 close to DeFuniak. Our roads are looking like cemeteries, but that doesn’t seem to bother the tailgaters and reckless drivers. They don’t even notice the monuments. :bang:

[InletBchDweller]

Um yes I am a woman [/url] [url="http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS"]http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1/1_4_83.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS) :biggrin:

YOU dont know me..or where I have come from ....or what I have done to get to where I am today..so dont dog me by where I live, I feel that I have been blessed to be where I am today.

Yes some people do call Inlet Beach the projects of SoWal so I dont feel that you are too far off the mark. THere are million $$ houses and then a trailer next door... thanks though ladydebubba for defending my neighborhood :wub:

If you have a problem with women drivers from Dothan and Louisiana drivers then something bad must have happened to make you feel this way--- HOWEVER you can not say that all of them are bad, just the ones that affected your life directly in a negative way. I am not going to hate all Freeport male drivers or avoid the 331 bridge b/c of this but I can dislike and hope the male driver who was responsible gets what is coming to him.

I mean are we all going to stop drinking Margaritas because the guy was Mexican??? :idontno: No but we can find him, tar & feather him and I am sure 30A Skunkape knows of a good swamp....how bout Manchac???? eyeeee!!!


NOW on the subject about this thread. Mango I called my renters all day driving in from Kentucky worried about how they were. Thanks for telling me I was wrong and that there was a son but now it is double sad 2 kids....I wish there was something we could do....





Next time just state your problem and not beat around the bush about it...
(thats a southern saying in case ya didnt know :biggrin: )




You must be a woman too...not to take away from this tragic accident...you have no idea why I feel this way...and without asking...your the moron...



One more thing...coming from someone who obviously lives in the "projects" of South Walton... :funn:



Hope the survivors have a speedy recovery...

[Lady D]

We see several wreath and cross memorials all around different areas of the interstates and highways around the city. See many going down Hwy 72 through North Mississippi. There is one I pass every morning going to work and it is just a quarter mile from our house! So sad!

[peapod1980]

Please pray for them. They lost their mother and father.
Absolutely heartbreaking story. Prayers being said.

[Lady D]

Um yes I am a woman [/url] [url="http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS"]http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1/1_4_83.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS) :biggrin:

YOU dont know me..or where I have come from ....or what I have done to get to where I am today..so dont dog me by where I live, I feel that I have been blessed to be where I am today.

Yes some people do call Inlet Beach the projects of SoWal so I dont feel that you are too far off the mark. THere are million $$ houses and then a trailer next door... thanks though ladydebubba for defending my neighborhood :wub:

If you have a problem with women drivers from Dothan and Louisiana drivers then something bad must have happened to make you feel this way--- HOWEVER you can not say that all of them are bad, just the ones that affected your life directly in a negative way. I am not going to hate all Freeport male drivers or avoid the 331 bridge b/c of this but I can dislike and hope the male driver who was responsible gets what is coming to him.

I mean are we all going to stop drinking Margaritas because the guy was Mexican??? :idontno: No but we can find him, tar & feather him and I am sure 30A Skunkape knows of a good swamp....how bout Manchac???? eyeeee!!!


NOW on the subject about this thread. Mango I called my renters all day driving in from Kentucky worried about how they were. Thanks for telling me I was wrong and that there was a son but now it is double sad 2 kids....I wish there was something we could do....





Next time just state your problem and not beat around the bush about it...
(thats a southern saying in case ya didnt know :biggrin: )

Inletbeachdweller, we rent every year in Inlet Beach. I love the area. Like the peace and quiet we have where we stay. Do you know someone by the name of T.C. and Pat Hager? It is their place we rent every time we come and we love it. Where in Inlet Beach do you stay?

[InletBchDweller]

Yes I do to LOVE Inlet Beach although it has a lonnnnnnnnnng way to go before it is like 30-A. Anyway pat hagler sounds familiar, have they been in the area a while?? We have had our place down here since the late 70's. I live on the north side of 98 on (taken out due to Mangos love :wub: )...



Inletbeachdweller, we rent every year in Inlet Beach. I love the area. Like the peace and quiet we have where we stay. Do you know someone by the name of T.C. and Pat Hager? It is their place we rent every time we come and we love it. Where in Inlet Beach do you stay?

[goofer44]

FLORIDAZ.......besides being a moron, you are also an illiterate. "your the moron..."
it is not your.... but "you're" as in you are. SHMUCK.

[bsmart]

This is just really horrible. And this kind of thing happens far too often. When we are in SoWal, I don't even let my wife venture off 30-A because it is so dangerous.

Prayers for this family.


I agree. I went over to Destin Commons when I was down there last week, and you would not believe the number of cars which ran the red light at the intersection of 98 and 30-A! Not to mention how fast everyone drives on 98, some drivers must have been doing at least 75 or better. I have come to expect this out of Atlanta drivers, but I do not want to have anxiety attacks while I am on vacation.

[Mango]

Thank you everyone for your kind words and orayers. Your concern for the family involved and our feelings is demonstrative of the warmth, sincerety and quality of people who encompass posting on this site.

I suppose this really stuck a cord for us more so because on 9/11 I lost my business partner in Tower 2 who had left behind 2 children and a wife suffering from breast cancer. Their daughter was the same age as the Rook's daughter.

I suppose God works in strange ways and He only knows why he took the Rooks. Oddly, my neighbor whose house Margie Rook's best friend rented, was moving in permanently to SoWal with her family. I was terribly concerned about her coming in on the busiest weekend of the year with a moving truck.

If anything, I hope people in the area will will think a little longer and harder about getting behind the wheel after consuming alcohol. Yes, in New York this man would serve prison time and I hear now our Governor is making the laws stiffer even so for vehicular manslaughter. I don't know what the laws are in Florida, but I hope they throw the book at him, and I hope if he has some conscious, after time served, does something to perhaps stop someone else from getting behind the wheel drunk.

My husband and I are not sure, but we are considering changing our rental week from Sat-Sat to Sunday to Sunday. Perhaps this may be a safer day to travel.

Once again, thanks for your concern.

[Smiling JOe]

I have read these posts, but not the Sun's full story. Anytime someone dies around here, we are all at a loss. This is a small town, very small, and chances are that someone killed may be a close friend. Not so in this case but I am still saddened for all involved, their families and their friends.

For you guys who think the drunk driver's life isn't changed from this terrible event, I ask you to think about how easily you could have been you. There are plenty of drivers who are too intoxicated to drive. Independence Day is quickly approaching and I am sure we will see more drunk drivers on the roads in the next week as people begin celebrating.

Someone mentioned that this is a reminder to stay focused until they arrive at their beach house. I ask you to stay focused during your entire visit to our area. Too many people remove their thinking cap when they leave their house. Accidents happen on 30A as well, and in my opinion there is plenty of opportunity to die on 30A. I see pedestrians darting out from behind parked cars all the time.

This accident is one small reminder of what to do and what not to do. Please remember it for a long time.

[30A Skunkape]

Um yes I am a woman [/url] [url="http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS"]http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1/1_4_83.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS) :biggrin:

YOU dont know me..or where I have come from ....or what I have done to get to where I am today..so dont dog me by where I live, I feel that I have been blessed to be where I am today.

Yes some people do call Inlet Beach the projects of SoWal so I dont feel that you are too far off the mark. THere are million $$ houses and then a trailer next door... thanks though ladydebubba for defending my neighborhood :wub:

If you have a problem with women drivers from Dothan and Louisiana drivers then something bad must have happened to make you feel this way--- HOWEVER you can not say that all of them are bad, just the ones that affected your life directly in a negative way. I am not going to hate all Freeport male drivers or avoid the 331 bridge b/c of this but I can dislike and hope the male driver who was responsible gets what is coming to him.

I mean are we all going to stop drinking Margaritas because the guy was Mexican??? :idontno: No but we can find him, tar & feather him and I am sure 30A Skunkape knows of a good swamp....how bout Manchac???? eyeeee!!!


NOW on the subject about this thread. Mango I called my renters all day driving in from Kentucky worried about how they were. Thanks for telling me I was wrong and that there was a son but now it is double sad 2 kids....I wish there was something we could do....





Next time just state your problem and not beat around the bush about it...
(thats a southern saying in case ya didnt know :biggrin: )



Don't even make your carpal tunnel flare by responding to a transient flamer. And for the record, this Louisiana driver has had no moving violations or accidents in over 17 years :biggrin: And I also say we save the gas and pitch el rey de los borachos in Honey Island Swamp instead of driving all the way to the soft mud of St John the Baptist Parish.

[Lady D]

IBD, I think the Hagers have had that rental property since sometime in the 80's. I think the mid 80's. I recall a guest book at one time showing names and addresses and dates going back that far I think.

[aquaticbiology]

far, far too many drunks on 331 and 79 in the afternoon and never a cop to be seen! there should be a ton of state police presence on 331 and 98 EVERY WEEKEND in the summer, instead they're out looking for trucks dragging boats barreling down deserted 2-lane backroads at 4 in the morning

state police should do roadblocks again - and start impounding drunk driver's cars!

[SlowMovin]

far, far too many drunks on 331 and 79 in the afternoon and never a cop to be seen!
Have you ever been on 331? There are cops all over it. There is a Sheriff's station at the south end, as well as State troopers up and down it. I've never been on 331 when I didn't see AT LEAST one marked car (usually more) and I drive it daily.

[aquaticbiology]

Have you ever been on 331? There are cops all over it. There is a Sheriff's station at the south end, as well as State troopers up and down it. I've never been on 331 when I didn't see AT LEAST one marked car (usually more) and I drive it daily.

then how did this drunk driver get by all the police?

the one lone cop sitting at the southbound end of the 331 bridge when we went last time wasn't that much of a deterrent, more like a awareness test as everybody slammed on their brakes to be under the speed limit

with the gas pipe being bored under the intracoastal, the lanes are a bit tight on the causeway right before you get onto the bridge - wonder if this was the problem

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/0/5/0/snapshot20060626083532.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/0/5/0/snapshot20060626083438.JPG

[InletBchDweller]

Honey Island Swamp...good...isnt there a swamp monster there???:floor: Don't even make your carpal tunnel flare by responding to a transient flamer. And for the record, this Louisiana driver has had no moving violations or accidents in over 17 years :biggrin: And I also say we save the gas and pitch el rey de los borachos in Honey Island Swamp instead of driving all the way to the soft mud of St John the Baptist Parish.

[steele mama]

then how did this drunk driver get by all the police?

the one lone cop sitting at the southbound end of the 331 bridge when we went last time wasn't that much of a deterrent, more like a awareness test as everybody slammed on their brakes to be under the speed limit

with the gas pipe being bored under the intracoastal, the lanes are a bit tight on the causeway right before you get onto the bridge - wonder if this was the problem

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/0/5/0/snapshot20060626083532.JPG

http://sowal.com/bb/gallery/files/2/0/5/0/snapshot20060626083438.JPG
I think the problem was a drunk passing on 331 in heavy traffic! It seems silly/stupid to blame cops for accidents that happen. We all need to slow down! We don't have to be in a hurry to get everywhere and definitely don't need to drive under the influence. Such a sad story!!

[30A Skunkape]

I think the problem was a drunk passing on 331 in heavy traffic! It seems silly/stupid to blame cops for accidents that happen. We all need to slow down! We don't have to be in a hurry to get everywhere and definitely don't need to drive under the influence. Such a sad story!!

I am sure the media will be reporting the guy's blood alcohol level. Like I said, I was on the bridge heading north just minutes prior to the wreck. I can't understand how anyone, no matter if they were three sheets to the wind, could even attempt to pass. There was so much traffic headed southbound. The guy must have been totally drunk/enraged that he was behind somebody who was probably only able to go the speed limit. I think Mango suggested that check in be moved by some folks to Sunday so there is a smaller stream of traffic into the area at one time. I passed by the rental office by the mailboxes etc Saturday and people were pulled-off on 30A because the lot was full! My heart skipped a beat to see the crowd at the watercolor Publix that afternoon-UNBELIEVABLE masses!

[Paula]

Mango:

I'm so, so sorry for this family and for your loss as well. It is yet another reminder to be careful and alert (keep our thinking caps on as SJ says) at all times. One can be relaxed on vacation and alert at the same time. And this thread has also reminded me to enjoy the moments and the people I love and appreciate more and more...

Also reminds us to remember to use the taxi services in SoWal after partying as well. Thanks Paradise Taxi and other taxis that serve our community.

So sad....

[30A Skunkape]

Honey Island Swamp...good...isnt there a swamp monster there???:floor:

Yes! In fact, I knew this grizzled guy who owned a sporting goods store in Covington who claimed to have shot the thing with a bow and arrow when it attacked him and his son when they were camping in the swamp one night! Well, let's just say I never saw him but he sounds like a cousin of the Florida skunk ape and I hope he survived Katrina since he was at ground zero :roll:
He must be real because they have his likeness set up in the Louisiana Swamp exhibit at the Audubon Zoo ;-)

[Mango]

Hello all:
I just wanted to let you know that I have spoken with the Rook children. They had their aunt and uncle fly in yesterday, and they will be taking them back to the airport via a rent a car. The older son Chris had his mother fly in yesterday as well.

I told Chris about the prayers and words of support from everyone, and they wanted me to tell everyone how much they appreciate it, and how this has eased some of their pain.
Thanks to all of you who offered your assistance as well. They have plenty of food for the day, and if they need anything else, they said they would call.

Services for the Rooks are anticipated possibly for this Friday in Ohio.

[gotothebeachmom]

Hello all:
I just wanted to let you know that I have spoken with the Rook children. They had their aunt and uncle fly in yesterday, and they will be taking them back to the airport via a rent a car. The older son Chris had his mother fly in yesterday as well.

I told Chris about the prayers and words of support from everyone, and they wanted me to tell everyone how much they appreciate it, and how this has eased some of their pain.
Thanks to all of you who offered your assistance as well. They have plenty of food for the day, and if they need anything else, they said they would call.

Services for the Rooks are anticipated possibly for this Friday in Ohio.

Thanks for the update. Again, our hearts go out to everyone involved in this senseless tragedy, Is there any word on the young lady that was in serious condition?

[TooFarTampa]

Hello all:
I just wanted to let you know that I have spoken with the Rook children. They had their aunt and uncle fly in yesterday, and they will be taking them back to the airport via a rent a car. The older son Chris had his mother fly in yesterday as well.

I told Chris about the prayers and words of support from everyone, and they wanted me to tell everyone how much they appreciate it, and how this has eased some of their pain.
Thanks to all of you who offered your assistance as well. They have plenty of food for the day, and if they need anything else, they said they would call.

Services for the Rooks are anticipated possibly for this Friday in Ohio.

Mango, thanks. If you find out any scholarship/trust fund info for the little girl, please post it.

[ShallowsNole]

Yes, Mango please...

And, guys, don't blame 331. Remember that most folks who work in SoWal drive that road at least twice daily, and most are not inebriated. Virtually every major road down here has seen someone cross the center line or go off the shoulder and lose their life, and/or cause someone else to lose theirs. Even 30-A.

From what I understand, there was nothing the Rooks could have done - and they likely did not suffer. Sitting ducks in the only place they could be at that moment, but definitely the wrong time.

And since my husband and I are just a little older than they were and we have a 13-year-old, this incident has scared us into preparing the will and guardianship arrangements we've been putting off. You just never know and much of the time, there is nothing you can do.

[Cheering472]

This is so very sad. It's such a horrible loss for that poor family. I pray for them all.

[Donna]

What a tragic event this is. Our heartfelt condolences go out to the family and their friends. Also to you, Mango.

I agree with Smilin' Joe's comment that everyone should consider how easily this could have happened to them. We are quick to condemn the faceless person resonsible, yet would rush to their defense if it was someone we cared about. Or perhaps more appropriately stated, "rush to the defense counsel." Drinking and driving is still not taken seriously enough by society, nor is drinking to excess, in general. Drunk drivers are let off the hook daily by sharp lawyers. Parents dump their kids at our beaches with full knowledge that they will be drinking unsupervised and then driving the dangerous roads there. We assume that inappropriate drinking will occur and then express concern when the inevitable occurs.

We are not tee-totalers, mind you. But we never drink more than one alcoholic beverage and then get behind the wheel of a vehicle. You would not believe the grief we sometimes get about this from friends. And I have jumped up and down to distraction on this Board about the problem of sanctioned underage drinking at the beaches, only to be told:

"They're just having maybe a little too much fun."
"This is what everyone does down here and it's always been that way."
"That's just part of being on a rental program."
"I taught my kids how to drink safely and they know how to handle it."

And has anyone ever noticed that drive-through liquor store located on 331, near Freeport and just north of where this horrible accident occurred? We once called in a drunk driver who was weaving all over 331 and finally veered into the drive-in window for a fill-up. What kind of lunatic place of business is this?

If we really want to do something in the shadow of this tragedy, we should perhaps self-examine and also write some letters to our elected officials. :(

[steeleing1]

Well said, as usual, Donna.

I live in DeFuniak Springs, and my husband and I drive almost every day to and from South Walton. There is rarely a day that I don't witness an irresponsible driver passing when it is not safe and a car is heading in the opposite direction. Sometimes this is at 7am when I assume people are not drunk.

Everyone who lives or visits here knows that highways 331 and 98 are extremely dangerous, and we all have to make an effort to slow down, drive safely and drive sober.

[JB]

The Florida Highway Dept. needs to take whatever steps necessary RIGHT NOW to make the 331 bridge safer. For starters, there should be a double yellow line from one end to the other and big signs that say NO PASSING ON BRIDGE. I cannot tell you how many times I have seen irresponsible drivers attempt to pass another car on that bridge when it is not safe to do so. It's an accident waiting to happen because, folks, THERE IS NO SHOULDER!

Also, if a center guardrail is not figured into the bridge expansion project, then they need to figure it in. This alone could save dozens of lives. In addition, they could put up big billboards on either end of the bridge showing a graphic photo of of one of the dozens of horrific accidents on the bridge, along with a warning to drive safely.

All is would take is a little extra money and a little thinking outside the box to make this bridge safer.

An honest question for the locals: Does anyone feel like the Mid-Bay bridge might be a little safer? If so, then I am taking that route for all my future trips.

This accident has absolutely put the fear of God in me re. that bridge.

[ShallowsNole]

Agreed about the guardrails, but I don't think the Mid-Bay is safer as a whole. The guardrails might have helped the accident several months back where the collision on the downhill side of the hump pushed the vehicle and the driver over onto the old bridge. I tend to disagree with the no passing, as often the bridge is the only place you can see far enough ahead to pass, but you are right - there is no room for error.

btw, Saturday night's accident occurred on the causeway.

[Smiling JOe]

Again, don't rush to the judging booth. Anyone could have easily meandered onto the edge of the road on that causeway and attempted to pull back onto the road with an overcorrection sending their vehicle directly into oncoming traffic. Accidents do not require a drunk driver. Their is plenty of shoulder along even the bridges. I have stopped on one of the bridges to change a tire for someone, and I had plenty of room to do so. One major problem with the causeway is the 4-5 inch jump from pavement to the ground below. It is not the case for the entire causeway, but for several places in it. A quick look at the keypad on your cellphone and you could be next.

JB, I don't think the mid-bay bridge is any safer. When the 4lane is built, it is most likely to be two bridges such as the Hathaway Bridge extending between PC and PCB, and yes, it will help people avoid accidents.

Right now, 331 is still not as bad Bloody 98 used to be when it was two lane.

All of this craziness and people were worried about sharks.

[JB]

I tend to disagree with the no passing, as often the bridge is the only place you can see far enough ahead to pass, but you are right - there is no room for error.

It would be inconvenient for folks like you and me, who would pass safely or not at all, but in the overall name of safety, I think this is something they need to do.

[Lois]

We had guests coming into one of our properties on Saturday from Missouri, they also got hit by another vehicle while driving through Alabama, three out of four in the vehicle had to be airlifted to a hospital. One was in serious condition and undergoing surgery when I last spoke to the family.

Be careful out there.

[JB]

Again, don't rush to the judging booth. Anyone could have easily meandered onto the edge of the road on that causeway and attempted to pull back onto the road with an overcorrection sending their vehicle directly into oncoming traffic.

But it wasn't just anyone. It was a stupid drunk Mexican. And now a whole family's world is destroyed. But yes, it could happen anytime, to anyone.

SJ, the impression I get from you is you have kind of an "oh well, it happens" attitude. Saturday's wreck was the second fatal accident on that bridge in the last six months or so. Something needs to be done to make it safer.

Surely you would agree that the state/county/whatever, needs to do something to make it more safe.

[aquaticbiology]

only way to make it 100% safe is to get rid of cars or get rid of people driving them - and as vision processing improves, its only a matter of time for the latter

the humpy part of the 331 bridge indeed does have a double-yellow line, but the long portion of the bridge before the humpy part and the causeway allows passing, first one way, then the other, then both

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i think we found the problemo!

[Floridaz]

FLORIDAZ.......besides being a moron, you are also an illiterate. "your the moron..."
it is not your.... but "you're" as in you are. SHMUCK.

I guess I am the first person to make a keyboard error since Al Gore invented the internet...paint me if you must...



But old man, you have no dog in this hunt...for you to attack without provocation makes you a...morally illiterate? The whole country is having this problem...a whole bunch of haters!



DD...

[JB]

only way to make it 100% safe is to get rid of cars or get rid of people driving them - and as vision processing improves, its only a matter of time for the latter

as i recall there was no shoulder at the southbound start of the 331 bridge since the gas folk moved in

I never said it should be 100% safe. There is no such thing. I said steps should be taken to make it safer. This, IMO, is very do-able.

But I guess nothing will be done. We'll just all sit here on our asses and wait for the next fatality on the Wells Bridge to happen. Then, we can discuss it some more. :roll:

[lindatat]

Ok people, enough ethnic slurs and name calling. This accident is a horrible tragedy and exchanging insults isn't going to make the situation better or change anything. My heart goes out to this family - we traveled the exact same route at about the same time just 2 weeks prior and hearing about this accident just gave me goosebumps. This could have been any of us who vacation or live in Sowal. Keep this family in your prayers and stop bickering!

[Beach Hawk]

My wife, children and I love vacationing each year in SoWal and I've enjoyed reading (and laughing with) all the forum messages after discovering this site last year. All that time I never had the courage to post a message and am saddened to make this my first post given the topic.

Jim and Margie Rook's family is from our town and I've had the pleasure of knowing Jim Rook's brother and sister-in-law over the past year (our sons play sports together). I can assure you all that the entire family is special, very close-knit, and they all have made and touched many friends over the years. I'm sure it is comforting for the family to know that everyone on this forum is thinking and praying for them - especially the children. Please continue to keep them in your thoughts and prayers.

Jim was well-known in town as an accomplished musician and his band has been extremely popular in Cincinnati for over 20 years. They played for large and small gatherings, charities, etc. and brought a lot of fun and smiles to people of all ages. The world is a lot poorer today for losing Jim and Margie. Here is the band's website in case you'd like to know a little more: www.thefastforwardband.com (http://www.thefastforwardband.com/)

[steele mama]

Ok people, enough ethnic slurs and name calling. This accident is a horrible tragedy and exchanging insults isn't going to make the situation better or change anything. My heart goes out to this family - we traveled the exact same route at about the same time just 2 weeks prior and hearing about this accident just gave me goosebumps. This could have been any of us who vacation or live in Sowal. Keep this family in your prayers and stop bickering!
Amen!!!! :wub:

[aquaticbiology]

:welcome: welcome beach hawk - glad you came out of your 'shell"!

[Floridaz]

Um yes I am a woman http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1/1_4_83.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS) :biggrin:

YOU dont know me..or where I have come from ....or what I have done to get to where I am today..so dont dog me by where I live, I feel that I have been blessed to be where I am today.


Next time just state your problem and not beat around the bush about it...
(thats a southern saying in case ya didnt know :biggrin: )

But yet, you did exactly that to me (dog=attack)...without "direct" provocation by me...I know several people who live in the Inlet Beach area...great people and friends...but that really does not matter...

I guess having a double wide vs a single makes you less hospitable...:D


///I hope I did not make any typos...for the old fart doing the grading...

[JB]

Ok people, enough ethnic slurs and name calling. This accident is a horrible tragedy and exchanging insults isn't going to make the situation better or change anything. My heart goes out to this family - we traveled the exact same route at about the same time just 2 weeks prior and hearing about this accident just gave me goosebumps. This could have been any of us who vacation or live in Sowal. Keep this family in your prayers and stop bickering!

I don't see any bickering or slurs. We're just having a discussion here. I called the guy a stupid drunk Mexican because that's exactly what he is. The police said he was drunk. And he is from Mexico. How is using the word "Mexican" a slur? It's a reference to his nationality. How is that different than using the word "American?"

All I want is for people to wake up and let this accident be a flashpoint to making that stretch of road safer.

[lindatat]

I don't see any bickering or slurs. I called the guy a stupid drunk Mexican because that's exactly what he is. The police said he was drunk. And he is from Mexico. How is using the word "Mexican" a slur? It's a reference to his nationality. How is that different than using the word "American?"

All I want is for people to wake up and let this accident be a flashpoint to making that stretch of road safer.

What does his ethnicity have to do with the fact that he was driving drunk?
If he had been American, would you have called him a stupid drunk American or would you have just called him a stupid drunk?

[JB]

What does his ethnicity have to do with the fact that he was driving drunk?
If he had been American, would you have called him a stupid drunk American or would you have just called him a stupid drunk?

You know why? Because Mexican/Hispanic drivers are a HUGE problem. I think everyone secretely knows this. I just happen to be the one to say it. When it comes to highway safety, I don't give two rat poots about political correctness. Go be PC all you want. I speak my mind. Put me on your ignore list if it bothers you.

[aquaticbiology]

oh i give up! what's the point of trying to have a conversation about yellow lines and passing zones when these two ****zus keep jumping up and down and yipping at each other! shut up already!

i'm pouring myself a stiff drink, then walking to the 'fish recipes beginning with Q' or some such sowal forum - hey, with all the new forums you can pretty much hide in here... this place almost qualifies as a labrynth...now if i was a minotaur, where would i hide...

[lindatat]

oh i give up! what's the point of trying to have a conversation about yellow lines and passing zones when these two ****zus keep jumping up and down and yipping at each other! shut up already!

i'm pouring myself a stiff drink, then walking to the 'fish recipes beginning with Q' or some such sowal forum - hey, with all the new forums you can pretty much hide in here... this place almost qualifies as a labrynth...now if i was a minotaur, where would i hide...

I'll join you for a drink in a little while if my workout doesn't help me get centered.

BTW - I normally try not to make waves. But now I am, what is that expression I've seen on this board before, "Done and Done?"

[Lady D]

My wife, children and I love vacationing each year in SoWal and I've enjoyed reading (and laughing with) all the forum messages after discovering this site last year. All that time I never had the courage to post a message and am saddened to make this my first post given the topic.

Jim and Margie Rook's family is from our town and I've had the pleasure of knowing Jim Rook's brother and sister-in-law over the past year (our sons play sports together). I can assure you all that the entire family is special, very close-knit, and they all have made and touched many friends over the years. I'm sure it is comforting for the family to know that everyone on this forum is thinking and praying for them - especially the children. Please continue to keep them in your thoughts and prayers.

Jim was well-known in town as an accomplished musician and his band has been extremely popular in Cincinnati for over 20 years. They played for large and small gatherings, charities, etc. and brought a lot of fun and smiles to people of all ages. The world is a lot poorer today for losing Jim and Margie. Here is the band's website in case you'd like to know a little more: www.thefastforwardband.com (http://www.thefastforwardband.com/)

:( Beach Hawk, I am sorry this tragedy happened. They were a nice looking, happy looking couple. I am sad for their children, especially the 14 yr. old! And other family members and friends also.

[imasunbum]

I really don't know what to say - how sad I am for the entire family, but especially for the children. Does anyone have an update on the daughter's friend. I keep hoping to hear something positive.

[kimbug]

But yet, you did exactly that to me (dog=attack)...without "direct" provocation by me...I know several people who live in the Inlet Beach area...great people and friends...but that really does not matter...

I guess having a double wide vs a single makes you less hospitable...:D


///I hope I did not make any typos...for the old fart doing the grading...

Wow! You really must be a selfish person to choose this thread of all the ones on this board to use for spreading negativity. Maybe you should scroll up a few posts and check the link for the 2 people killed in the accident. Not only do they seem like really decent human beings, but they left behind 2 children and many extended family members & friends. That's what this thread is about. I think it was lindabobhat that said any one of us could be involved in this kind of accident and that is so true. I know that when I'm traveling to SoWal on Friday I will be thinking about this accident and all the others that have tragically occured prior to it.

Traffic accidents are a fact of life. Unfortunately, so are insensitive people. And before you decide to reply back with something nasty just remember you're the one that made the first attack with your "women drivers from Dothan and drivers from Louisiana" comment.

[Lady D]

kimbug, those posts need to be taken off of here from floridaz. Totally inappropriate!

[Johnrudy]

Drinking and driving is unconscionable. It's that simple.


I am so sorry for this family and all who has been affected.



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[Kimmifunn]

This kind of stuff is really upsetting. It could happen to any of us...and probably has at some time.

My thoughts and prayers are also with the family.

[newyorker]

Actually it did happen to us about 3 years ago on our return home from a wonderful week in Sowal--we were in south Alabama near Opp--on the 331 bypass around Opp. We were cruising along in the left lane, but tho the highway there is a four-lane, divided highway, it still has "grade level crossings". A very old man (in his 80s) pulled out of a cross street --it was clear he didn't see us. I managed to see that the guy had done this, yelled to my husband , he tried to veer off the highway, but it was too late, and we "t-boned" him. Thankfully, we had been slowing down for a light (way in the distance), and we had airbags. It was a rental car--a full-sized Buick--but it was totaled.
My husband and I had back and shoulder injuries, but they weren't serious. Our kids in the back seat were shaken up, but ok. The old man was taken to the hospital--I am truly hopeful that he never was allowed to drive again. His big Ford truck even had a trailer on the back--he was totally oblivious to what was going on traffic wise when he pulled out. The only disconserting thing in this accident was that his son was one of the police officers who answered the accident!!

It was a truly awful way to end our Sowal vacation--and every time we've come down since then, we've avoided the Opp bypass (which is engineered badly--we were told by the police that there had been many crashes like ours--people "weren't used to the four-lane highway at the grade-level crossings."

We were very lucky--the airbags really saved us, and as my physicist husband just explained to me, our accident had far less total acceleration than did the accident with the Rooks. My husband explained that a head-on crash like that actually means that the two velocities of the cars are added together--thus, the total force might have been as high as 120 mph.

May God have mercy on all of them and bless the Rook family. And may all of us be safe--this story has really affected me for obvious reasons!!

[Smiling JOe]

Saturday's wreck was the second fatal accident on that bridge in the last six months or so. Something needs to be done to make it safer.

Surely you would agree that the state/county/whatever, needs to do something to make it more safe.

When was that other wreck? I didn't know about it or the details. As I said, the shoulders on the causeway need attention, immediately. If Jesus had not tried to pull back onto the road from the low shoulder, we wouldn't be having this particular conversation, though maybe another conversation about another wreck. A center guard rail won't happen and a double yellow line won't prevent people who disregard the laws from passing.

I live here and see close calls in traffic nearly everyday. Red Rocket does too, and he wrote a song asking the people not to kill him on the road.

[scrltbegonya]

So horrible...and to think, I was annoyed bc I couldn't get across the bridge to Publix and had to go to Kelly's.

[InletBchDweller]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_11_2.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS) What does his ethnicity have to do with the fact that he was driving drunk?
If he had been American, would you have called him a stupid drunk American or would you have just called him a stupid drunk?

[luvthebeach]

This is so sad. But for the grace of God, this could have been any one of us who travel 331 to get to our SoWal paradise. I feel so terrible for this family - I'm sure they shared the same excitement over the last few weeks that we all experience when we are anticipating our week(s) at the beach. Think how the children were so looking forward to their week of fun in the sun, and instead have now flown home to bury their parents. I bet they'll never be able to stand the emotional pain of coming back down this way.

God bless and be with all of them as they struggle with this tragedy.

[southof30A]

A "capital" offense? Murder? I think so, and with the appropriate outcome.

[southof30A]

Drinking and driving is unconscionable. It's that simple.


I am so sorry for this family and all who has been affected.



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A "capital" offense? Murder? I think so, and with the appropriate outcome.

[luvthebeach]

Wow! You really must be a selfish person to choose this thread of all the ones on this board to use for spreading negativity. Maybe you should scroll up a few posts and check the link for the 2 people killed in the accident. Not only do they seem like really decent human beings, but they left behind 2 children and many extended family members & friends. That's what this thread is about. I think it was lindabobhat that said any one of us could be involved in this kind of accident and that is so true. I know that when I'm traveling to SoWal on Friday I will be thinking about this accident and all the others that have tragically occured prior to it.

Traffic accidents are a fact of life. Unfortunately, so are insensitive people. And before you decide to reply back with something nasty just remember you're the one that made the first attack with your "women drivers from Dothan and drivers from Louisiana" comment.

I agree. I wonder if Floridaz would have the same sarcasm if it were his family killed in that car. It could happen, Flordiaz - tomorrow, next week, next year...only one person knows for sure. If and when it does, think back to the time you made a sick sarcastic comment about a tragedy that took away the parents of two young people.

It was a sick comment and hopefully Floridaz will refrain from any more comments.

[southof30A]

What does his ethnicity have to do with the fact that he was driving drunk?
If he had been American, would you have called him a stupid drunk American or would you have just called him a stupid drunk?
Either way, the DRUNK "dude". be him Mexican, American, Lithuaian, Nepalese, whatever, etc. had a choice. The family from Ohio did not. The "dude" ripped their lives from them and he ought to pay the ultimate price. Is capital punishment legal in FLA?

[Johnrudy]

Actually it did happen to us about 3 years ago on our return home from a wonderful week in Sowal--we were in south Alabama near Opp--on the 331 bypass around Opp. We were cruising along in the left lane, but tho the highway there is a four-lane, divided highway, it still has "grade level crossings". A very old man (in his 80s) pulled out of a cross street --it was clear he didn't see us. I managed to see that the guy had done this, yelled to my husband , he tried to veer off the highway, but it was too late, and we "t-boned" him. Thankfully, we had been slowing down for a light (way in the distance), and we had airbags. It was a rental car--a full-sized Buick--but it was totaled.
My husband and I had back and shoulder injuries, but they weren't serious. Our kids in the back seat were shaken up, but ok. The old man was taken to the hospital--I am truly hopeful that he never was allowed to drive again. His big Ford truck even had a trailer on the back--he was totally oblivious to what was going on traffic wise when he pulled out. The only disconserting thing in this accident was that his son was one of the police officers who answered the accident!!

It was a truly awful way to end our Sowal vacation--and every time we've come down since then, we've avoided the Opp bypass (which is engineered badly--we were told by the police that there had been many crashes like ours--people "weren't used to the four-lane highway at the grade-level crossings."

We were very lucky--the airbags really saved us, and as my physicist husband just explained to me, our accident had far less total acceleration than did the accident with the Rooks. My husband explained that a head-on crash like that actually means that the two velocities of the cars are added together--thus, the total force might have been as high as 120 mph.

May God have mercy on all of them and bless the Rook family. And may all of us be safe--this story has really affected me for obvious reasons!!

newyorker,
I know that area well as I grew up 15 miles from Opp in Andalusia. My brother, at 15, was in the back seat of a car in a head-on collison on the outskirts of Opp. He and 2 other teens survived (w/ months of recovery & many surgeries) but the driver and the family in the other car were all killed. There is something about the way people drive in these rural towns - - they always seem to follow their own rules and speed limits.

[Smiling JOe]

Some of you are making it sound like you could not cause a crash. Be careful how you throw out the punishment.

FYI - I think some of you need to read the legal definition of murder. I understand your anger, but educate yourselves. ;-)

Any death on our roads is to be taken seriously. Jesus has already changed the lives of many of you and hopefully, he has sent you a reminder to be careful when driving. Again, you do not have to drink to cause a traffic accident. This thread seems to have become something nastier than the memory and concern for such a lovely sounding family. I hope you angry people can redirect your hatred toward focusing on loving the victims. Why not write a sweet note and post it on the memorial website rather than show your anger here on this thread. If you want to talk about highway safety and changes to existing DOT yellow lines, start a new thread.

[southof30A]

I'm not a legal scholar, but you might be... All I know is that this "dude", by his alleged knowing actions (allegedly attempting to motor his car under the influence of alcohol), allegely caused the loss of the life of this family. Not saying that any of us couldn't cause a crash, it has to do with his alleged criminal actions prior to and leading to the crash.

Call it murder, call it manslaughter, I don't care. His alleged poor decisions ruined a family's life. He could have simply called a cab!!!

[Beach Hawk]

I agree with SJ and all the others that this tragedy serves as a reminder to us all to be careful always with our responsibility of driving - whether we're drinking, distracted with a cell phone, etc. One of the players on my little league team left tonight with his parents and family after our game for an all night drive to vacation in South Walton. I reminded them of the Rook's story and urged them to drive careful. I know when we drive down in a month that I'll be extra diligent.

Who knows....maybe because of all this attention one of us in this forum will take that extra little step when we're driving in the next day, week, month that unwittingly prevents an accident. One thing I know for sure, when I go to bed in a few minutes I'll make sure to give my 9, 7 and 3-year old boys an extra kiss goodnight while they sleep.

[Cork On the Ocean]

Well I finally got time to read this entire thread. So many good people on this board. So sad that so many people have suffered. Yes, even Jesus and his deceased passenger has a family that is suffering, I'm sure. This is not to say that he shouldn't be punished but he apparently was young, may have children himself and has to live with what he did that night to that family, those children and his friend. There's no winner here.

I only pray that the Rooks didn't suffer and that there is someone to take care of that poor young girl and help her and her brother through this tragedy. How sad to go through life without a mom and dad. She'll won't have her dad to give her away at her wedding or her mom to help her choose a prom dress. Their children will have no grandparents but somehow they will make it and somehow,someday they will be given strength and they will mend.

Mango, I'm so sorry for you as well. I'm sure that you take great pains to see that every one of your renters have a great holiday. Something like this is just out of your control. It wasn't the Saturday check in. Don't even go there.

We understand so little and the purpose of such tragedy. Rather than placing judgement and insulting innocents, we should direct our energy in a positive way. Make a change in the roads, help the family, appreciate the gift of life that you are given every day. Kiss our kids. Tell our parents that we love them. Practice compassion and live each day as it's our last, because it may be.

Nice boobs IBD, only you could respond so eloquently :rolling: .

[dusty]

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060626/NEWS01/306260011

This story has been on the tv news and in the paper here. So shocking and sad to hear of it. Sowal/Destin is a popular destination for many from the Cincinnati area.

I hope the bridge gets properly painted with the correct passing/no passing stripes as was suggested in this thread.

And I hope the driver is properly prosecuted and made an example for others---just maybe someone will think twice about drinking before getting behind the wheel.

Time for designated (sober) drivers!

[Mango]

I hope you angry people can redirect your hatred toward focusing on loving the victims. Why not write a sweet note and post it on the memorial website rather than show your anger here on this thread. If you want to talk about highway safety and changes to existing DOT yellow lines, start a new thread.

Yes, I agree with SJ.

I would like to write a letter to or start a petition regarding the bridge safety. A sign is definitely needed that states no passing, and I never understood why there are no guardrails. Whether that would have prevented this tragedy is unknown, but some sort of pro-active steps seems necessary.
If anyone knows who we would direct letters or a petition to in the Transportation Dept, let's start a new thread to refer to, and perhaps draft a form letter with our wishes for all to use.

I had the pleasure of speaking with Chris Rook and some of his family members yesterday, as they sought my assistance in getting to the airport.
He was a well spoken gentleman, a testament to how he was raised.
I know the family would appreciate hearing from residents and knowing prayers and thoughts are being directed their way via their web site.

My neighbors church had a Prayer Mass in memory of the Rook's. Apparently her Pastor spoke of Job, and how life in the now can seem most unfair, but that God's plans are much more broader than the now. Perhaps creating safer driving conditions is part of His bigger plan.

I will be speaking with the family more this week after they gather themselves in Ohio, and I will advise as to the condition of Kylie's friend, and whether a trust is going to be established for Kylie.

[JB]

When was that other wreck? I didn't know about it or the details. As I said, the shoulders on the causeway need attention, immediately. If Jesus had not tried to pull back onto the road from the low shoulder, we wouldn't be having this particular conversation, though maybe another conversation about another wreck. A center guard rail won't happen and a double yellow line won't prevent people who disregard the laws from passing.

I live here and see close calls in traffic nearly everyday. Red Rocket does too, and he wrote a song asking the people not to kill him on the road.

I was talking about the accident when the truck went over the rail and ended up on the old bridge. Maybe it was more than six months ago, and maybe it wasn't fatal. I can't remember. But it was still a horrific accident along the same stretch of road.

I have to disagree that there is really nothing that can be to make the bridge safer. I think there have been a number of good suggestions in this thread. I'm not a safety engineer, but there have to be some steps that can be taken to make things at least a little safer.

This accident has just really, really freaked me out.

[kimbug]

This accident has just really, really freaked me out.

I agree JB. I just hope it can serve as a reminder to all of us to drive a little safer. Always having a designated driver should go without saying, but we all know that it isn't always drinking that causes people to be careless. I am sure that I'm guilty of driving too fast, being distracted by my cell phone, and just simply being annoyed with the slow driver that always seems to be in front of me when I'm late! Like I said in a previous post when my family and I are on our way down Friday I'm sure we'll be thinking about this accident and sending our prayers for the Rook family.

[Smiling JOe]

I have to disagree that there is really nothing that can be to make the bridge safer. I think there have been a number of good suggestions in this thread. I'm not a safety engineer, but there have to be some steps that can be taken to make things at least a little safer.

This accident has just really, really freaked me out.

I don't know with whom you disagree.images/smilies/idontno.gif You seem to always put words in my mouth which do not represent me.

I yelled and yelled and yelled about hwy 283 / 98 intersection for over a year. Finally they put in a traffic light. DOT said they need 8 "major accidents" at that location before they would consider a installing a traffic light. Even then, it took 8 months to erect the traffic light. Still, they did not install turn lights running N and S. I see near misses there everday. Also, the yield signs in the turn lanes running E and W, are in the incorrect locations. Good luck getting them to change anything on the bridge. I think we will get new bridges before you see any changes on that stretch.

Slow down, enjoy every moment of life, because one day, it will be your last and there will be nothing you can do to keep it going.

[JB]

SJ - No, I am just unclear as to exactly where you are coming from.

[ShallowsNole]

I was talking about the accident when the truck went over the rail and ended up on the old bridge. Maybe it was more than six months ago, and maybe it wasn't fatal. I can't remember. But it was still a horrific accident along the same stretch of road.

I have to disagree that there is really nothing that can be to make the bridge safer. I think there have been a number of good suggestions in this thread. I'm not a safety engineer, but there have to be some steps that can be taken to make things at least a little safer.

This accident has just really, really freaked me out.


The other accident was fatal, and again it wasn't the driver at fault that died. Not an alcohol event, though...truck pulling a bobcat (little tractor-like thingy) on a trailer, which fishtailed and flung a truck coming the other way off the bridge. Driver fell out. :(

[Allifunn]

This thread is quickly becoming as unplesant as the Seawalls thread. I see nothing wrong with discussing these safety issues...but it should be in its own thread..not tainting this sad and heartfelt thread which should be dedicated to the friends and family of the poor couple that lost their lives. Shame on those of you who are making a stink in this thread! You are showing the WORST of this board and of SoWal!Just MHO

[Lady D]

:( There has been alot of ridiculous bickering on here between certain parties. I agree with you, if they want to continue that, let them start another thread for that. I cannot imagine what Beach Hawk thinks of all of those posts. Embarrassing for Sowal folks, I am sure!

[Destiny]

Mango and Beach Hawk,
My thoughts and prayers go out to you as well as the family and friends of this dear family. This was a senseless tragedy that changed many lives in an instant.
I read many of the notes on the memorial. The Rooks apparently made a positive impact on many people. I hope their children and friends will know the people in SoWal and those that enjoy the SoWal area offer support and prayers.
Please keep us posted on any scholarship fund for the children in memory of their parents.

[Mango]

This thread is quickly becoming as unplesant as the Seawalls thread. I see nothing wrong with discussing these safety issues...but it should be in its own thread..not tainting this sad and heartfelt thread which should be dedicated to the friends and family of the poor couple that lost their lives. Shame on those of you who are making a stink in this thread! You are showing the WORST of this board and of SoWal!Just MHO

Thank you Allifunn. Well Said.

[Mango]

Mango and Beach Hawk,
My thoughts and prayers go out to you as well as the family and friends of this dear family. This was a senseless tragedy that changed many lives in an instant.
I read many of the notes on the memorial. The Rooks apparently made a positive impact on many people. I hope their children and friends will know the people in SoWal and those that enjoy the SoWal area offer support and prayers.
Please keep us posted on any scholarship fund for the children in memory of their parents.

Thank you for the sentiment. I have expressed the SoWal support and prayers to the family, and they are grateful, and asked I express this to everyone.

[kathydwells]

Driver charged with DUI manslaughter in Walton wreck
July 04, 2006
By Gwen Break, The Sun

Jesus Bernal Rangel, 32, of DeFuniak Springs, is charged with three counts of DUI manslaughter and two counts of serious bodily injury as the driver involved in a June 24 wreck that killed an Ohio couple and a male passenger in the Rangel vehicle.

A July 2 report by the Florida Highway Patrol said Rangel, who was originally identified only as Jesus Bernal, was booked into the Bay County Jail with no bound and is awaiting extradition to Walton County.
James D. Rook, 43, and Margie L. Rook, 41, both of Cincinnati, Ohio, were killed when their car was struck head on by a Ford F150 pick-up driven by Rangel on the north side of the Clyde B. Wells Bridge on U.S. Highway 331 shortly before 5 p.m.

According to the original report filed by the Florida Highway Patrol, the Rooks were southbound on 331 the Rangel vehicle crossed the center lane into the path of the Rooks’ vehicle.

Rangel was taken by air ambulance to Bay Medical Center in serious condition.
Trooper R.M. Miller, who investigated the accident, reported that the Rangel vehicle went onto the right shoulder after passing another northbound vehicle. In his attempt to get back on the pavement, he overcorrected and crossed into the southbound lane.

Also killed was a 29-year-old passenger in the Rangel vehicle. His name still has not been released pending notification of next of kin.
Magan Doherty, 14, also of Cincinnati, a passenger in the Rook vehicle, was seriously injured and taken to Gulf Coast Hospital in Bay County. She has since been transferred to a Cincinnati hospital.

Kylie P. Rook, 14, Cincinnati, daughter of the couple, suffered minor injuries and was taken to Twin Cities Hospital, where she was treated and released.
The couple’s son and stepson, Chris Rook, 22, was driving another vehicle behind his parent’s vehicle and witnessed the accident.

James Rook had worked at Deaconess Hospital in Cincinnati for about 15 years. He was also drummer for a local band, Fast Forward. Fans and friends were posting messages on the band's Web site, www.thefastforwardband.com (http://www.thefastforwardband.com/)
Rangel and his passengers are employees of Apec Concrete Co. of Atlanta.

[Allifunn]

Driver charged with DUI manslaughter in Walton wreck
July 04, 2006
By Gwen Break, The Sun

Jesus Bernal Rangel, 32, of DeFuniak Springs, is charged with three counts of DUI manslaughter and two counts of serious bodily injury as the driver involved in a June 24 wreck that killed an Ohio couple and a male passenger in the Rangel vehicle.

A July 2 report by the Florida Highway Patrol said Rangel, who was originally identified only as Jesus Bernal, was booked into the Bay County Jail with no bound and is awaiting extradition to Walton County.
James D. Rook, 43, and Margie L. Rook, 41, both of Cincinnati, Ohio, were killed when their car was struck head on by a Ford F150 pick-up driven by Rangel on the north side of the Clyde B. Wells Bridge on U.S. Highway 331 shortly before 5 p.m.

According to the original report filed by the Florida Highway Patrol, the Rooks were southbound on 331 the Rangel vehicle crossed the center lane into the path of the Rooks’ vehicle.

Rangel was taken by air ambulance to Bay Medical Center in serious condition.
Trooper R.M. Miller, who investigated the accident, reported that the Rangel vehicle went onto the right shoulder after passing another northbound vehicle. In his attempt to get back on the pavement, he overcorrected and crossed into the southbound lane.

Also killed was a 29-year-old passenger in the Rangel vehicle. His name still has not been released pending notification of next of kin.
Magan Doherty, 14, also of Cincinnati, a passenger in the Rook vehicle, was seriously injured and taken to Gulf Coast Hospital in Bay County. She has since been transferred to a Cincinnati hospital.

Kylie P. Rook, 14, Cincinnati, daughter of the couple, suffered minor injuries and was taken to Twin Cities Hospital, where she was treated and released.
The couple’s son and stepson, Chris Rook, 22, was driving another vehicle behind his parent’s vehicle and witnessed the accident.

James Rook had worked at Deaconess Hospital in Cincinnati for about 15 years. He was also drummer for a local band, Fast Forward. Fans and friends were posting messages on the band's Web site, www.thefastforwardband.com (http://www.thefastforwardband.com/)
Rangel and his passengers are employees of Apec Concrete Co. of Atlanta.This still just makes me want to cry! How horrible for the son to have been behind them and witnessing the whole accident!:(

[DD]

This still just makes me want to cry! How horrible for the son to have been behind them and witnessing the whole accident!:(

I know! I wasn't aware of this....makes it just that much worse!! :( :(

[Mango]

My neighbor told me today about the article. She mentioned something about them not being able to find a drivers license on record for the drunk driver, so they are assuming he is in this country illegally.
My neighbor just moved into her house with her family, we were renting them both to the Rooks family and friends. She doesn't think she'll ever be able to drive over it without thinking about the Rook family. For the 4th of July, I told my guests to come in Friday of they wanted to. I didn't mention the accident- just told them I thought it would be less headache coming in that day- traffic and all. They took my offer.

Personally I have not traveled over that bridge yet. I fly in, and so I take the Mid-Bay bridge over from the airport, and I make my husband drive because I have a hard time driving over bridges. Afraid of heights.
I won't be able to get down to SoWal until October, but I think we'll be ok once surrounded by some SoWalers we want to get together with, read my guest book and see how many good memories were made in our house, and come to terms with this may have been just God's will.

In the meantime, I get to look at the pictures and read y'all light- hearted funny posts to make my day............. :wub:

[Cork On the Ocean]

Mango, I went through a similar thing several years back. My exchange student was killed in a head-on accident by a crazy lady trying to kill herself. The crazy lady lived, not getting jail time due to insanity and Siri died just days after her 18th birthday. I was in shock for some time. Her parents were in Norway and we had many hurdles getting her back home. Her mom just couldn't get over the fact that she outlived her beautiful daughter. No matter what the circumstances, it's always a tragedy. Whether a parent loses a child or a child loses a parent. Just like the Rooks, Siri was loved by many and brought joy to everyone she touched.

I can only say to give yourself a little time. It wasn't sowal, it wasn't a saturday check in. It was senseless and out of your control. It can't be reasoned and I no longer try to make sense of any of it. I trust in my higher power that Siri is free and knows true happiness. Seems the hardest things to accept are those that we can't control.

Your reaction is merely a testament to the fact that you are a caring and compassionate person. You're right! Your home has given many people happiness. Maybe when their relationship was strained, maybe when they were fighting cancer or some other crisis, maybe it just fullfilled their dream of a once-in-a lifetime tropical vacation! You never know. :idontno:

Just give it time Mango and I promise you will come to peace with it. You'll be in my prayers.

[Mango]

Oh how terrible Cork! :( That must have been really tough for you.
Thanks for sharing because I know it must be difficult to talk about it still cause you seem to be a very caring person too. :wub:

[Allifunn]

Oh how terrible Cork! :( That must have been really tough for you.
Thanks for sharing because I know it must be difficult to talk about it still cause you seem to be a very caring person too. :wub: you both are!:wub:

[Cork On the Ocean]

Oh how terrible Cork! :( That must have been really tough for you.
Thanks for sharing because I know it must be difficult to talk about it still cause you seem to be a very caring person too. :wub:

Over time, I've come to terms with it and each time something so sad happens it seems that it's preparing us for what life brings in later years. I have both of my parents still but they are in their 70's and I know that will be devastating as we're very close. Just one of the waves on the ocean that we have to ride.

[Mango]

Over time, I've come to terms with it and each time something so sad happens it seems that it's preparing us for what life brings in later years. I have both of my parents still but they are in their 70's and I know that will be devastating as we're very close. Just one of the waves on the ocean that we have to ride.

I feel like I have been riding a tsunami for the past year! :eek: Won't get into the gory details, serious illness still battling, hurricanes, the list goes on.
Every day has been struggle, but I try to get up and appreciate the good things I have and the people I love. :wub: Worked like a dog 14 hrs days for the past 7 years to get the things I have, and now being forced to smell the roses.I have left my summer open to enjoy my nephews while they are still young, and even though its difficult some days, I am out there riding the scooter, dancing the Hamster chicken dance in driveway, and blowing bubbles. :biggrin:
But can't wait to really come home to SoWal.