View Full Version : Cypress Dunes & Breeze questions.....
Jellyfish
02-26-2006, 10:59 PM
1) Cypress Breeze- seems to be alot (no pun intended) for sale in there, and they have been working on that crazy pool for 2 years. Any take on what's going on?
2) Cypress Dunes- if I understand this, you can SEE the beach, but cant
walk to the beach- you have to go back out on 30A and go to the state park? I would think this would not be desireable. Why not buy further inland for less $$$?
30A Skunkape
02-27-2006, 08:58 PM
Mrs SkunkApe and I went and looked at some property in Cyrpess Dunes. It is in a great spot near 98, has a flank protected by state land and seems to also be protected from endless building of retail shops as is the norm in other places. My impression was beach access would be coming. If no direct access to the beach is the price to pay to prevent big houses from being built on the cusp of the dunes, I am all for it. :cool:
It would be perfect with a walkover and that huge setback. I figure that people will find their way down to the beach through the park and over the dunes.
Smiling JOe
02-27-2006, 10:23 PM
It would be perfect with a walkover and that huge setback. :bang:There is already a footpath along the eastern fence line.
Chickpea
02-28-2006, 07:36 AM
1) Cypress Breeze- seems to be alot (no pun intended) for sale in there, and they have been working on that crazy pool for 2 years. Any take on what's going on?
2) Cypress Dunes- if I understand this, you can SEE the beach, but cant
walk to the beach- you have to go back out on 30A and go to the state park? I would think this would not be desireable. Why not buy further inland for less $$$?
1) Cypress breeze looks completely barren to me - I cannot believe how they were allowed to completely (at least seemingly) remove so many trees. Tragic decision as the development looks completely uninteresting to me - and that pool (aie aie aie - awful!)
2) Cypress Dunes on the other hand is much more attractive, much better care seems to be taken with both landscape and architecture and is obviously more favorably sited and as SJ stated, there is a way to the beach!
Smiling JOe
02-28-2006, 07:47 AM
1) Cypress breeze looks completely barren to me - I cannot believe how they were allowed to completely (at least seemingly) remove so many trees. Tragic decision as the development looks completely uninteresting to me - and that pool (aie aie aie - awful!)
2) Cypress Dunes on the other hand is much more attractive, much better care seems to be taken with both landscape and architecture and is obviously more favorably sited and as SJ stated, there is a way to the beach!Illegaly and damaging to the dune system!
:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::b ang::bang::bang::bang::bang:
Dont make me pull out my naughty hat. You will not like stepping on rusty tacks.
John R
02-28-2006, 08:22 AM
2) Cypress Dunes on the other hand is much more attractive, much better care seems to be taken with both landscape and architecture and is obviously more favorably sited and as SJ stated, there is a way to the beach!
the developer, john willis, has had this as an issue from the getgo, and has probably suffered some sales because of it. concerned locals will need to be diligent, keeping the developer and the new property owners up to task regarding the use of the dunes as access.
jr
Chickpea
02-28-2006, 09:40 AM
Illegaly and damaging to the dune system!
:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::b ang::bang::bang::bang::bang:
Dont make me pull out my naughty hat. You will not like stepping on rusty tacks.
yikes - i did not realize it was illegal....have not been there so did not know it was so.....terrible!
Cork On the Ocean
02-28-2006, 10:23 AM
yikes - i did not realize it was illegal....have not been there so did not know it was so.....terrible!
Every step on the dunes causes sand to loosen. Every bucket that kids dig out them removes sand.
9 out 10 deaths in hurricanes are due to the storm surge. The 2 biggest defenses against storm surge are continuous high dunes and the beach shelf.
20 steps and 1 bucket of sand doesn't seem like much but multiply that by 50,000 or 5 million. Our dunes suffered tremendous damage last year from the storms. Experts are trying to figure out how to repair them or at least hold onto what we have left. Many of us who own here are paying high assessments to try to save our dunes.
Don't walk on the dunes or let your kids play on them. Tell people to get off the dunes if you see them on them.
We'll love you for it! :wub:
SHELLY
02-28-2006, 12:38 PM
Developers have plunked communities down tantalizingly close--but with no access--to the beach, and then advertised them as "X steps to the azure gulf waters." Developers only need to get their profits and get out of town--it's not their problem as to how people get to that beach, nor do they care. Given that the majority of homes/condos in the area are vacation rentals, trying to keep a weekly parade of "changing residents and the kiddies and pets they love" off the dunes will be impossible.
Jellyfish
02-28-2006, 09:00 PM
So there does not seem to be a concrete (or hardy plank) answer from the developer- they say they are "working on a solution" but If I understand
what is mentioned above, you cannot legally get to the beach from there?
I agree re Cypress Dunes- was that clear cut or was the land mostly tree-less to begin with?
Look at both developments with Google Earth. The reason both have the name "Cypress", is most likely that they are both directly adjacent wetlands. If you have cypress trees, you have the moist ground.
Chickpea
02-28-2006, 10:06 PM
Every step on the dunes causes sand to loosen. Every bucket that kids dig out them removes sand.
9 out 10 deaths in hurricanes are due to the storm surge. The 2 biggest defenses against storm surge are continuous high dunes and the beach shelf.
20 steps and 1 bucket of sand doesn't seem like much but multiply that by 50,000 or 5 million. Our dunes suffered tremendous damage last year from the storms. Experts are trying to figure out how to repair them or at least hold onto what we have left. Many of us who own here are paying high assessments to try to save our dunes.
Don't walk on the dunes or let your kids play on them. Tell people to get off the dunes if you see them on them.
We'll love you for it! :wub:
Agreed, agreed and agreed - I certainly do my part with my kids and hope others do too. It is one of our most valuable resources and the reason our landscape along beaches are so unique and beautiful. I live here full time and am as committed as I can be to their preservation!
John R
02-28-2006, 11:46 PM
not illegal here yet, but should be. too much land to enforce.
http://www.moabutah.com/Resources/cryptobioticsoil.php
jr
Miss Kitty
03-01-2006, 05:53 AM
Agreed, agreed and agreed - I certainly do my part with my kids and hope others do too. It is one of our most valuable resources and the reason our landscape along beaches are so unique and beautiful. I live here full time and am as committed as I can be to their preservation!
:clap_1: ...and I will be returning in April to help educate those who may have not gotten the message. I was thinking there should be a flyer to hand out to uneducated parents, but guess where those would end up????
Chickpea
03-01-2006, 07:54 AM
:clap_1: ...and I will be returning in April to help educate those who may have not gotten the message. I was thinking there should be a flyer to hand out to uneducated parents, but guess where those would end up????
Agreed - great idea - we find a way to educate all about the dangers of swimming and have a flag system to further clarify. A flyer about the importance of preserving dunes would be instructive as I imagine that as obvious it may be to those of us here who are somewhat ecologically minded, to many people they may just not know any better and would welcome such instruction. Others would trash and ignore and we would touch some....
Jellyfish
03-03-2006, 09:06 PM
Alot of great info and discussion, but to my original question....how do you
legally get to the beach from a Cypress Dunes home? :idontno:
Camp Creek Kid
03-03-2006, 09:08 PM
You don't.
Amp22
03-03-2006, 09:10 PM
Alot of great info and discussion, but to my original question....how do you
legally get to the beach from a Cypress Dunes home? :idontno:
Leave the subdivision and go to the nearest public beach access.
Smiling JOe
03-03-2006, 10:37 PM
Leave the subdivision and go to the nearest public beach access....but you better walk, take your bike or scooter, because the closest public access has only 4 parking spaces and one is a handi-capped. From the western most lot in Cypress Dunes, one would have to drive about 1.5 miles to the closest public beach access.
Jellyfish
03-04-2006, 02:07 PM
Just coicidence, but ran into someone yesterday with a lot in C Dunes, up against a 10 mo. build out date (can you say "caught flipping?)...never intended to build. Price dropped to $275,000. This would have never happened over the past 5 years, sure looks like there is going to be some shakeout..... I might be interested in this, I think C Dunes is a very nice
development, but what is point of seeing the beach and not being able to
get to it easily? There is a State Prison just south of Vegas on I-15...reminds of that..must be hell seeing the lights of Vegas and not being able to get over the fence...this reminds me of that. I would think the developer would put in a nice walkover...
Glad to see the mania slowing, hope I can buy into SoWal this year.... :clap_1:
SHELLY
03-04-2006, 02:10 PM
...but you better walk, take your bike or scooter, because the closest public access has only 4 parking spaces and one is a handi-capped. From the western most lot in Cypress Dunes, one would have to drive about 1.5 miles to the closest public beach access.
That's the reason they're putting in the "Flintstone's Waterpark," so you don't have to go to the beach.
That's the reason they're putting in the "Flintstone's Waterpark," so you don't have to go to the beach.Shelly, you've got your Cypresses backwards....Cypress Breeze has the Flinstones...for Cypress Dunes you need Home Depot bolt cutters for direct beach access.
SHELLY
03-04-2006, 08:47 PM
Shelly, you've got your Cypresses backwards....Cypress Breeze has the Flinstones...for Cypress Dunes you need Home Depot bolt cutters for direct beach access.
Geez...the fun never ends! Next up...Cypress Borders...the new gated and walled development where you have to evade capture by gate guards and tunnel under the highway to get the beach.
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