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Smiling JOe
01-04-2006, 06:35 PM
Today, I received the following information regarding the Planned Dog Park, "Bark Park." It seems that there are a couple of stubborn Commissioners that need help understanding the importance of having a place in SoWal where we can legally take our dogs to run off leash in a fenced area. Please read the following and send out an email to the Commissioners if you cannot personally attend the upcoming meeting.

The dogs need your help!!! Please help us get this dog park going. My dogs will love you forever!:wub:


The email:
...trouble regarding the Bark Park approval. First, the
agreement has been picked apart and David Hallman the attorney has
written two versions to try to appease the dissenting commissioners regarding
whether it is a joint agreement or a lease. Small potatoes in my book-it could
be either. Another commissioner is trying to delay the dog park until
the dog shelter is built in North Walton County, an 18-24 month process. He's
also objecting to our getting the land because of some alleged violations
on Spike's property. Or he's using that as an excuse to delay our
project until he get's what he wants. BUT..We're going to face opposition on
Tuesday January 10th and we need to be prepared.

... (We need to) have as many voters and property owners in Walton County there as possible.
The meeting starts at 4PM at the South Walton Annex.
Please e-mail everyone you know and ask them to
be there to support the approval of the park. Let them know that the
newspaper said it was approved but it has not yet been approved and we need their help.
They should not bring pets to the courthouse. ...the park is
not just affiliated with Spike, but has a broad base of support and a
respected Board of Directors.

As important as it is for people to be there at the meeting, some
people just can't. Please tell them to show their support by sending an e-mail
to ALL five commissioners saying they are voters and want this park NOW.
Here are e-mail addresses for you to send via cut and paste.

cucro@co.walton.fl.us (http://us.f500.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=cucro@co.walton.fl.us&YY=11696&order=down&sort=date&pos=0); prikenneth@co.walton.fl.us (http://us.f500.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=prikenneth@co.walton.fl.us&YY=11696&order=down&sort=date&pos=0);
jonlarry@co.walton.fl.us (http://us.f500.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=jonlarry@co.walton.fl.us&YY=11696&order=down&sort=date&pos=0);
brascott@co.walton.fl.us (http://us.f500.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=brascott@co.walton.fl.us&YY=11696&order=down&sort=date&pos=0); meacindy@co.walton.fl.us (http://us.f500.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=meacindy@co.walton.fl.us&YY=11696&order=down&sort=date&pos=0);

Miss Kitty
01-04-2006, 07:07 PM
POOT! Don't care about the beaches and now the DOGS!!! FTLOG....some of these people need a heart transplant!

Beach Runner
01-04-2006, 09:54 PM
All of the standard poodle breeders I've talked to say to avoid places where large numbers of dogs have been to prevent our dog from catching diseases from other dogs. Our pup is on Dr. Dodds protocol of minimal vaccinations, designed to reduce the chances of diseases common in the breed and avoid needless vaccinations. When we drive to the beach, we never let our pup out at a gas station or fast-food restaurant. We always take her to a grassy area at a church where the probability of another dog being there is about zero. Yes, and we use a pooper-scooper.

Bottom line: The experts I know (like people who show dogs at Westminster) don't think that a dog park is healthy.

Smiling JOe
01-04-2006, 10:34 PM
All of the standard poodle breeders I've talked to say to avoid places where large numbers of dogs have been to prevent our dog from catching diseases from other dogs. Our pup is on Dr. Dodds protocol of minimal vaccinations, designed to reduce the chances of diseases common in the breed and avoid needless vaccinations. When we drive to the beach, we never let our pup out at a gas station or fast-food restaurant. We always take her to a grassy area at a church where the probability of another dog being there is about zero. Yes, and we use a pooper-scooper.

Bottom line: The experts I know (like people who show dogs at Westminster) don't think that a dog park is healthy.The problem with the parks is that PEOPLE don't clean their dogs poop, which can lead to dogs getting worms. Another no no is allowing dogs to play with toys inside the fenced in area. The toys roll around in the poop and can eventually cause problems. Toys in the fenced area can also cause territorial disputes, so they should be avoided anyway. There are some known problems with such things, but the socialization of dogs is definitely needed as is the ability to play in an open field with your dogs without the fear of them getting trampled by a Hummer.

Beach Runner
01-04-2006, 11:03 PM
I hear ya.

Suncat
01-04-2006, 11:45 PM
Bark Park---Great name! We have the Chattanooga Chew Chew Canine Park ;-) which ranks in the top ten dog parks in the nation.

There does have to be firm rules and regs since unfortunately there will always be some people who are not responsible and considerate of others.
Our dogs are all rescued mixed breeds and haven't had a problem yet. I didn't even think about the negative consequences. It's good to consider all sides.

jdarg
01-05-2006, 06:42 AM
If I knew the people and dogs that would be in the dog park with us, and knew everyone was up to date on their vaccines, had no other illness or parasite, and was not aggressive with people or other dogs, I would consider taking mine. SJ- I know why people love these dogparks, and if you, or owners like you, were at ours, we would come out and play. But you aren't. What I have seen is stupid people with too much time on their hands (but not enough time to train their dogs or get them veterinary attention) that think it is so cute to take their puppies for "playtime"- never mind that their pup has social issues and/or health issues.

One of my best friends practically lived at the dog park with her dogs- and loved it. She misses those days, and the friends she and her dogs made there. Louisville has an excellent dog park in one of our Olmstead parks- took many years, but now it's here. Along with a second one at another park, and quite a few puppy "daycares" with supervised playtime. Maybe the dog owners could somewhat "police" each other on health and good citizenship issues!

Smiling JOe
01-05-2006, 08:52 AM
...

One of my best friends practically lived at the dog park with her dogs- and loved it. She misses those days, and the friends she and her dogs made there. Louisville has an excellent dog park in one of our Olmstead parks- took many years, but now it's here. Along with a second one at another park, and quite a few puppy "daycares" with supervised playtime. Maybe the dog owners could somewhat "police" each other on health and good citizenship issues!

At the dog park in Asheville, that is exactly what happens. Most of the people hang out in the same area watching their dog(s) and talking with new friends. I think it is as much a social experience for the people as well as the dogs. I have seen a couple of scuffles (the same boxers each time), but the owners of any dogs in a scuffle are asked to leave by the other owners, and the "bad" dogs' owners quickly and willingly comply.

seagrover
01-05-2006, 08:52 AM
Today, I received the following information regarding the Planned Dog Park, "Bark Park." It seems that there are a couple of stubborn Commissioners that need help understanding the importance of having a place in SoWal where we can legally take our dogs to run off leash in a fenced area. Please read the following and send out an email to the Commissioners if you cannot personally attend the upcoming meeting.

The dogs need your help!!! Please help us get this dog park going. My dogs will love you forever!:wub:


The email:
...trouble regarding the Bark Park approval. First, the
agreement has been picked apart and David Hallman the attorney has
written two versions to try to appease the dissenting commissioners regarding
whether it is a joint agreement or a lease. Small potatoes in my book-it could
be either. Another commissioner is trying to delay the dog park until
the dog shelter is built in North Walton County, an 18-24 month process. He's
also objecting to our getting the land because of some alleged violations
on Spike's property. Or he's using that as an excuse to delay our
project until he get's what he wants. BUT..We're going to face opposition on
Tuesday January 10th and we need to be prepared.

... (We need to) have as many voters and property owners in Walton County there as possible.
The meeting starts at 4PM at the South Walton Annex.
Please e-mail everyone you know and ask them to
be there to support the approval of the park. Let them know that the
newspaper said it was approved but it has not yet been approved and we need their help.
They should not bring pets to the courthouse. ...the park is
not just affiliated with Spike, but has a broad base of support and a
respected Board of Directors.

As important as it is for people to be there at the meeting, some
people just can't. Please tell them to show their support by sending an e-mail
to ALL five commissioners saying they are voters and want this park NOW.
Here are e-mail addresses for you to send via cut and paste.

cucro@co.walton.fl.us (http://us.f500.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=cucro@co.walton.fl.us&YY=11696&order=down&sort=date&pos=0); prikenneth@co.walton.fl.us (http://us.f500.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=prikenneth@co.walton.fl.us&YY=11696&order=down&sort=date&pos=0);
jonlarry@co.walton.fl.us (http://us.f500.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=jonlarry@co.walton.fl.us&YY=11696&order=down&sort=date&pos=0);
brascott@co.walton.fl.us (http://us.f500.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=brascott@co.walton.fl.us&YY=11696&order=down&sort=date&pos=0); meacindy@co.walton.fl.us (http://us.f500.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=meacindy@co.walton.fl.us&YY=11696&order=down&sort=date&pos=0);


SJ - we love Auntie Spike!!! The funniest thing ever is to see all the "puppies' in the van riding around the area. They have a look on their face like they are just out to go get an ice cream!

Beach Runner
01-05-2006, 11:16 AM
If I knew the people and dogs that would be in the dog park with us, and knew everyone was up to date on their vaccines, had no other illness or parasite, and was not aggressive with people or other dogs, I would consider taking mine.
Dogs on Dr. Dodds protocol haven't had the bortadella vaccine, for example, because they're on a minimal vaccination program. So, if they're at the park, the owners risk the health of other dogs (as well as their own). Maybe prior to admission to the dog park, the owner must have documentation that their dog's vaccinations are current and complete. Of course, that doesn't keep out worms and parasites.

Landlocked
01-05-2006, 11:53 AM
Can I bring my cat?

ShallowsNole
01-05-2006, 02:29 PM
I love the idea of the bark park - as would my Lab - but I am afraid I need to side with the commissioner that says that the county animal control facility needs to be built first. That has been an issue for years now, and is desperately needed.

Smiling JOe
01-05-2006, 04:53 PM
I love the idea of the bark park - as would my Lab - but I am afraid I need to side with the commissioner that says that the county animal control facility needs to be built first. That has been an issue for years now, and is desperately needed.I think the animal shelter desperately needs to be built, too. The difference is that the Shelter will cost money, and will take time to build. On the other hand, the dog park is hoped to be a joint project between Bark Park and the County, where the County simply provides the land behind the So Walton Annex at no cost, or either the County will lease the land to Bark Bark. The County had mentioned possibly contributing some fencing and or gravel for parking. No expense on the County's part for the unused land. The only potential additional costs to WalCo is liability. Another difference is that Bark Park will not be staffed. The Shelter will have the expense of a full staff, and probably trucks to patrol the streets for the free-to-roam dogs on the streets of WalCo.

ShallowsNole
01-06-2006, 09:32 AM
I'd have no issue if they were done at the same time. I'm just waiting for the howls of protest (no pun intended) from NorthWal.

Kimmifunn
01-06-2006, 11:09 AM
Dogs on Dr. Dodds protocol haven't had the bortadella vaccine, for example, because they're on a minimal vaccination program. So, if they're at the park, the owners risk the health of other dogs (as well as their own). Maybe prior to admission to the dog park, the owner must have documentation that their dog's vaccinations are current and complete. Of course, that doesn't keep out worms and parasites.
We have dog parks all over the city...I don't think people think that into it though. If you have a rabid dog..keep it out? For the most part I think dogs are fine in those things... :idontno:

Landlocked
01-06-2006, 11:15 AM
We have dog parks all over the city...I don't think people think that into it though. If you have a rabid dog..keep it out? For the most part I think dogs are fine in those things... :idontno:

If your dog is rabid, you'll know it. My stepdad was bitten by one. He killed the dog and buried it and he then started wondering if he might have rabies. He called the vet and the vet told him to go dig up the dog and bring it in for testing. Nice huh?

Smiling JOe
01-06-2006, 11:34 AM
If your dog is rabid, you'll know it. My stepdad was bitten by one. He killed the dog and buried it and he then started wondering if he might have rabies. He called the vet and the vet told him to go dig up the dog and bring it in for testing. Nice huh?I am drowning in tears of laughter and sadness, LL, at your stepdad's expense. Your stories are so real and vivid.

Kimmifunn
01-06-2006, 11:36 AM
I am drowning in tears of laughter and sadness, LL, at your stepdad's expense. Your stories are so real and vivid.
LL is so back woods. It's great. :clap_1:

Landlocked
01-06-2006, 11:39 AM
I am drowning in tears of laughter and sadness, LL, at your stepdad's expense. Your stories are so real and vivid.

I'm just glad it was January instead of August. That might have been nasty.
My step dad has more weird stuff happen to him.

kathydwells
01-06-2006, 11:43 AM
I am drowning in tears of laughter and sadness, LL, at your stepdad's expense. Your stories are so real and vivid.

Isn't that the truth SJ. You can just put yourself in that place with him. He has a story for everything. I don't like it....I Love IT!!!!!

Landlocked
01-06-2006, 11:54 AM
What is so disturbing about that story is the vet told him that he could just bring in the HEAD of the dog if he didn't want to bring in the whole thing. Now that is a Lowndes County, Alababma veterinarian for you. He decided to just bring in the whole dog instead.

Landlocked
01-06-2006, 11:57 AM
Anyone know if I would be able to bring my semi-native boxer to the park for a run or is this a resident only type thing?

Kimmifunn
01-06-2006, 11:58 AM
Anyone know if I would be able to bring my semi-native boxer to the park for a run or is this a resident only type thing?
Yes. You can bring him. And if they tell you that you can't...throw a piece of bacon on them and let your dog go to town.

kathydwells
01-06-2006, 12:05 PM
What is so disturbing about that story is the vet told him that he could just bring in the HEAD of the dog if he didn't want to bring in the whole thing. Now that is a Lowndes County, Alababma veterinarian for you. He decided to just bring in the whole dog instead.

You know why they just wanted the head don't you? Because if the dog had rabies, it would show up in the brain of the deceased dog. I am sure you knew this, right?

Landlocked
01-06-2006, 12:09 PM
You know why they just wanted the head don't you? Because if the dog had rabies, it would show up in the brain of the deceased dog. I am sure you knew this, right?

Well I figured there had to be a reason but I just don't know how anyone could dig up their dead dog and cut its head off. We're country but we ain't that country.

Smiling JOe
01-06-2006, 12:10 PM
Yes. You can bring him. And if they tell you that you can't...throw a piece of bacon on them and let your dog go to town. :funn::funn::funn:Now that is fuNNy! ... correct. The park would be self policed and open to all visitors, however, I suggest leaving the cats at home.

Landlocked
01-06-2006, 12:12 PM
Yes. You can bring him. And if they tell you that you can't...throw a piece of bacon on them and let your dog go to town.

We took him down to the beach on our last trip and hid him from the truck driving up and down the beach. I kept him on a leash whenever anyone was around. He was a good doggie. He absolutely loved it.

The sheriff guy snuck up on me one day while I was fishing and said he had been watching me hide my dog for a week. :floor:

I guess he had binoculars. I'm so stupid..

He was really nice about it. He just said to keep doing what I was doing. He apparently likes boxers. :clap_1:

Landlocked
01-06-2006, 12:13 PM
:funn::funn::funn:Now that is fuNNy! ... correct. The park would be self policed and open to all visitors, however, I suggest leaving the cats at home.

A cat on a leash is one of the silliest looking things I've ever seen.

kathydwells
01-06-2006, 12:15 PM
Well I figured there had to be a reason but I just don't know how anyone could dig up their dead dog and cut its head off. We're country but we ain't that country.

I know I couldn't and wouldn't. :(

Miss Kitty
01-06-2006, 01:21 PM
A cat on a leash is one of the silliest looking things I've ever seen.

Not as bad as a kid on a leash, but almost!!!

Ocean Lover
01-06-2006, 01:55 PM
A cat on a leash is one of the silliest looking things I've ever seen.

That's why they have these! :lol: They aren't silly at all!

Miss Kitty
01-06-2006, 01:57 PM
That's why they have these! :lol: They aren't silly at all!

I don't like it...I love it!

ShallowsNole
01-06-2006, 01:58 PM
LL is my hero. While it's bad your stepdad got dog-bit, this is one of the funniest threads I've ever read - anywhere! :funn: