Dining Alone

[rapunzel]

A friend just clued me into this site when I mentioned what a shame it was that there was no Zagat's for 30-A. It's been wonderful to find so much good advise. There is one feature of the Zagat's that is missing...the Dining Alone list. Always a godsend for business trips, I have used it everywhere and never minded eating out by myself. I am here for a few months and have made a few attempts to go out and it has been so uncomfortable. When I asked for a table for one, one hostess repeated loudly, "You're by yourself? No one else is coming?"

Any suggestions? Maybe a place where it's possible to eat at the bar?

[lurker1]

I recommend eating at the bar at Criolla's. The bartender is first class (as is the food). Same goes for Borago's.

The sushi bar at 331 also seems to have a number of solo diners, and the sushi is good.

[Santiago]

A friend just clued me into this site when I mentioned what a shame it was that there was no Zagat's for 30-A. It's been wonderful to find so much good advise. There is one feature of the Zagat's that is missing...the Dining Alone list. Always a godsend for business trips, I have used it everywhere and never minded eating out by myself. I am here for a few months and have made a few attempts to go out and it has been so uncomfortable. When I asked for a table for one, one hostess repeated loudly, "You're by yourself? No one else is coming?"

Any suggestions? Maybe a place where it's possible to eat at the bar?
The bar at Borago or Cafe 30A. Both are great places.

[kurt]

Wait staff here probably doesn't see too many singles dining.

I agree about the above suggestions. Also Fish Out of Water at WaterColor has a Sushi bar, Shades and Bud & Alley's, Smiling Fish, Royal Orchid, Pandora's. The Red Bar.

Let us know if you would like to meet somebody (or just let down your hair). ;-)

[seagrovelover]

RAPUNZEL ........... :welcome:

[Beach Runner]

When I'm at the beach alone, I eat at the bar and talk to the bartender. Then I don't feel alone. It's actually fun.

But please don't read a book while dining alone. It makes you look pathetic. Someone was doing that at the bar at Taqueria Del Sol (ATL) when I was there recently. If you're that uncomfortable, get takeout.

[Smiling JOe]

But please don't read a book while dining alone. It makes you look pathetic. Someone was doing that at the bar at Taqueria Del Sol (ATL) when I was there recently. If you're that uncomfortable, get takeout.

I like to call that time management. I could care less of what people think of me reading. Maybe they think, "that guy must be smart, I see him reading instead of watching Fox news on mute while he is dining." FYI - Not everyone thinks alike, Beach Runner. Reading a book while at lunch is also a way to keep to yourself when you don't want to talk to everyone. ;-)

[Beach Runner]

I like to call that time management. I could care less of what people think of me reading. Maybe they think, "that guy must be smart, I see him reading instead of watching Fox news on mute while he is dining." FYI - Not everyone thinks alike, Beach Runner. Reading a book while at lunch is also a way to keep to yourself when you don't want to talk to everyone. ;-)
But I like to talk, in case you haven't noticed. :floor: I also like to watch sports on TV at the bar.

[Smiling JOe]

But I like to talk, in case you haven't noticed. :floor: I also like to watch sports on TV at the bar.

Be careful, it "may make you look pathetic." :funn: :D

[Miss Kitty]

But I like to talk, in case you haven't noticed. :floor: I also like to watch sports on TV at the bar.

Reading is NOT pathetic BR!!!!! I find a good book or article very good company!!!

[Landlocked]

I'm lucky if I can read the label on my beer while I'm at a bar.

[Beach Runner]

Reading is NOT pathetic BR!!!!! I find a good book or article very good company!!!
Reading is not pathetic. Reading while dining is pathetic according to some "Things Not To Do While Dining" lists that I've read. Apparently, a person reading while dining appears uncomfortable in his/her own skin, as well as anti-social.

[Miss Kitty]

Reading is not pathetic. Reading while dining is pathetic according to some "Things Not To Do While Dining" lists that I've read. Apparently, a person reading while dining appears uncomfortable in his/her own skin, as well as anti-social.

That's weird...who makes up these "rules"? Love being in my skin and am hardly considered anti-social...and I enjoy reading something at times if I eat out alone. Beats staring at the wall! Well, except that one time I ate French onion soup at a cafe, alone, sitting outside in Paris...that was a delight to look at the passersby!

[Smiling JOe]

Reading is not pathetic. Reading while dining is pathetic according to some "Things Not To Do While Dining" lists that I've read. Apparently, a person reading while dining appears uncomfortable in his/her own skin, as well as anti-social.

I think a comfortable person does what they please disregarding any written rules. Maybe your guide of Things not to do while dining works for Atlanta, but at the beach? give me a break sorority girl.

[Mermaid]

I take the exact opposite stance. I HATE eating at the bar, even when I'm with girlfriends. Nothing could persuade me to make conversation with a bartender, just for the sake of having someone to talk to so I don't look "pathetic." But give me a table and a book and I'm happy! In Europe it's a great tradition to sit at a table and watch the world go by, book and/or pen and paper at the ready. As Sueshore mentioned, it's a wonderful way to enjoy a dinner alone. The solitude of good food and good reading is very welcoming to me (though I am very happy to chatter the dinner away if I have company :funn: )

[jdarg]

Just the thought of sitting by myself in a restaurant with good food, a nice glass of wine, something interesting to read, and the peace and quiet to enjoy all 3 makes me want to.....GO OUT TO DINNER BY MYSELF TONIGHT! A restaurant would be the only place the stars and moons would align for this kind of bliss to happen for me. Certainly not at home!

[Smiling JOe]

Just the thought of sitting by myself in a restaurant with good food, a nice glass of wine, something interesting to read, and the peace and quiet to enjoy all 3 makes me want to.....GO OUT TO DINNER BY MYSELF TONIGHT! A restaurant would be the only place the stars and moons would align for this kind of bliss to happen for me. Certainly not at home!
Be sure to take your book. :D

[Beach Runner]

You guys are so BRUTAL. But I love you. And I'd rather talk than read. I do enough reading for my job just to keep current in computer science that reading anything while dining is the last thing I'd want to do.

Just this week I've read enough to teach myself XML, SMIL, SVG, MathML, XHTML, WAP, and WML.

BTW SJ I'm not a sorority girl - I was a GDI (God Dam_ed Independent) at Tulane. :D

[TreeFrog]

Taking the big risk of disrupting a pretty strong thread drift...

Don't forget Shades at the Loop for bar dining, or the sushi bar at Old Florida Fish house.

[Mermaid]

TreeFrog, everyone goes on tangents in this place! Don't worry about it!

[Miss Kitty]

TreeFrog, everyone goes on tangents in this place! Don't worry about it!

TANGENTS ARE OUR LIFEBLOOD!

[jdarg]

TANGENTS ARE OUR LIFEBLOOD!


We can start a new business-- TANGENTS R'US!

[Miss Kitty]

We can start a new business-- TANGENTS R'US!

Now that's an idea!

Poor rapunzel...she just asked a simple question!!! rapunzel, welcome and eat out and eat well!!!

[Paula]

I love going out somewhere and reading a good book alone. I prefer reading at the beach or the porch or the couch, but sometimes it's good to get out and read at a restaurant. In fact, I should do that more often when in SoWal. I had a nice lunch at Shades by the Loop all by myself at one of the high tables by the window and loved it. I stayed over an hour (there were no people waiting for my seat). I rarely go to a restaurant alone (coffee shops definitely) and if I do I'm very happy being by myself. And I always bring something to read when I'm dining alone. I get to look up now and then and people-watch, then get back to the book. I wouldn't be as comfortable sitting at the bar talking or reading because if I go myself I want to be in a comfortable corner.

[Suncat]

Rapunzel, I'm sorry you are uncomfortable dining alone and hope that improves. I don't mind it a bit and I always have a book or newspaper. Very relaxing. Paula expressed my feelings exactly! I'm certainly not anti-social, but would not feel right talking to the (probably) busy bartender just to appear social. And yep I am a former sorority girl too. Why should you conform to a "things not to do" list of all things? Just my opinion. :D

[shakennotstirred]

I agree with the book readers. I find it very relaxing to be dining out alone with a glass of wine and a book. Plus it sure beats sitting in your hotel room when traveling alone on business.

[rapunzel]

Wow! I expected one or two replies. Thank you so much for all the great suggestions. I had completely forgotten Criolla's had a bar. I've never been to Borago but it gets so much good press here I'll make it a point to try it soon.

Now, I must weigh in on the tangent. Being a solo dining veteran around here, I can attest that going in without a book is not advisable. I'm a chatty person and would definitely prefer to strike up a conversation with the bartender, sushi chef, or fellow diners...but the opportunity does not always present itself. I went to the Old Florida Fish House without a book recently, sat at the sushi bar, and because the sushi bar was so busy I waited 35 minutes for my food and the sushi chef was way to busy to make small talk. Uncomfortable in your skin is sitting in a crowded restaurant with a group of teenagers on one side and a support beam on the other, a busy staff, trying to read Bill O'Reilly's lips. Perhaps those lists are referring to people who try to read while they are actually eating. I never do that, because the whole point of eating in a good restaurant is to pay attention to the food.

Thanks for all the great ideas. If anyone else is interested -- I have found that Hurricane's Oyster Bar and Blue Buddha are both good places to go alone.

[whiteyfunn]

And I'd rather talk than read. :D

You don't have to call the kettle black...

And SJ, not all sorority girls (or wannabees) are pathetic.

[newyorker]

I travel a lot for my job, and thus the choice for me is to eat alone at a good place or feel like I shouldn't belong and eat in my room. I'm an academic, but I also love people--so like some of you--I bring a good book, order some wonderful wine, and a meal I wouldn't cook for the family at home. I've found oyster bars great places to eat alone (sometimes I read, sometimes someone interesting will sit down near me and we'll talk.) People watching can be fun too. But some of these so-called "rules" are actually ones meant to keep singles from eating alone, particularly women (who not too long ago were never supposed to be unaccompained in public spaces like bars or restaurants.)
So, rapunzel be "transgressive"--bring a good book, order a great glass of wine and whatever you want to eat. Sowal has wonderful places to eat--have at it!

[beachmouse]

Sounds like the classic divide between introverts (those who are energized by time alone) and extroverts (those who are energized by interacting with others) bubbling over into the discussion.

Mr. Mouse and I are both fairly strong introverts, and will often go out for Sunday brunch and read the paper while waiting for the food to show up, Kind of like we're having fun together yet at the same time giving each other some space.

If anyone wants to go off on a Myers-Briggs tangent, we're both INTJs.

[Beach Runner]

I'm alone A LOT (my husband is a 3-million miler). So when I have an opportunity to be with people, I'd much rather strike up a conversation with the bartender or the person at the next barstool than dive into a book. I can read a book HOME ALONE.

If you can't understand that, I dunno what to say. I guess my supposed tangent was politically incorrect. But if the topic of the thread is "Dining Alone," my many personal experiences in dining alone, combined with recommendations for doing such in the popular media, can hardly be construed as tangential.

For me, the bars at Borago, Bud & Alley's, and Shades are great places to dine alone. There's always someone to strike up an interesting conversation with. Most bartenders seem to be flattered that their customers are interested in talking to them as human beings, rather than as automatons behind a bar. I always learn something interesting while talking to them.

As SJ says, we all don't think alike. Like I've said before, I know more people who agree with me on this issue than disagree. I can't tell you how many times we've dined out, seen someone alone reading, and one of my tablemates has made a comment about how sad it is to read while dining alone. So I'm outta here on this issue. As I've said before, slam me all you want. Whatever. I'm not the only one who thinks this way.

[jdarg]

Don't get me wrong- I have had many wonderful conversations with strangers, bartenders, and strange bartenders. I bartended a couple years in college ( had to supplement the party income!) so I can yak'em up with the best. But sometimes you don't get very lucky in available conversationalists, so the book is necessary.

[Beach Runner]

Sounds like the classic divide between introverts (those who are energized by time alone) and extroverts (those who are energized by interacting with others) bubbling over into the discussion.

Mr. Mouse and I are both fairly strong introverts, and will often go out for Sunday brunch and read the paper while waiting for the food to show up, Kind of like we're having fun together yet at the same time giving each other some space.

If anyone wants to go off on a Myers-Briggs tangent, we're both INTJs.
Myers was my prof at UF in grad school until I realized that an Ed.D. in math ed was worthless if I wanted to teach at the university level, so I got Ph.D. in math and then computer science. I was an ISTJ, but have become more ESTJ as time as passed and I have had to overcompensate for my extremely introverted husband.

Are you UF alums?

[Rita]

...
Poor rapunzel...she just asked a simple question!!! ...

Careful SS! Do we know rapunzel is a SHE? Could be one of River Otter's long-haired Hippies! :lol:

:welcome: Rapunzel!

[kurt]

Just this week I've read enough to teach myself XML, SMIL, SVG, MathML, XHTML, WAP, and WML.

Now Phay :roll: , I doubt that would make any lists for being pathetic. :funn:

[beachmouse]

Mr. Mouse and I went to undergrad together at Albion College. (small liberal arts college in Michigan, only Paula here has probably heard of it) then I got my MPP from University of Michigan, and he got his MFA from Michigan State.

Yeah, I know what they say about mixed marriages, but we have a shared love for Da Red Wings, so it actually works out pretty well.

[Beach Runner]

Now Phay :roll: , I doubt that would make any lists for being pathetic. :funn:
Honey, I know boatloads of sh*t. People are amazed by this since I am a (subliminal message) blonde; pathetic is definitely not how people who know me describe me, fo' shizzle, my nizzle. :floor:

BTW I'm all about staying current and keeping my job (and, more important, group health insurance).

[iwishiwasthere]

Since my husband travels a lot and both my daughters no longer live at home, eating alone presents a quandry. I do not like to watch tv and eat, so I often read. It is no fun to look at a plate of food in your home. Sometimes I eat outsdie and prefer to at restaurant where that is an option. In some restaurants, I enjoy people watching. Not staring, but observing interactions. Quite a variety of people out there.

[Smiling JOe]

For the record, Beach Runner, I don't mind people who want to talk versus reading a book. My problem is with you saying that people (you) think that I am pathetic if I am reading while alone at a restaurant.

Give me a break.

While on the subject, if you see a guy reading a book while dining at a table by himself in SoWal, please keep the talking to a minimum. My Mom says that I don't listen well when reading.

[Mermaid]

So I'm outta here on this issue. As I've said before, slam me all you want. Whatever. I'm not the only one who thinks this way.



BR, no one minds the different opinions. That's not the point. It was simply the way you stated with such finality that books + restaurants = pathetic. Perhaps you ought to have clarified with a "...to me." After all, one person's "pathetic" is another person's "perfect," as this thread so amply illustrates.

Different strokes for different folks.

[steele mama]

:welcome: Rapunzel,

Definitely try Borago. You'll get good service there, very friendly, attractive and the food is top notch also. Always someone ready for good conversation.

[whiteyfunn]

BR, no one minds the different opinions. That's not the point. It was simply the way you stated with such finality that books + restaurants = pathetic. Perhaps you ought to have clarified with a "...to me." After all, one person's "pathetic" is another person's "perfect," as this thread so amply illustrates.

Different strokes for different folks.

Yeah my Mom always says "It's not what you say but how you say it." I personally find it peaceful eating by myself. Or being by myself period!

[steele mama]

When I see people reading a book, eating out, I think they are very secure with themselves and are enjoying some peace and quiet. I don't read personally, but I think it is a great idea! :D

[lindatat]

I'm with Jdarg - the idea of a meal alone (without kids) sounds good to me. But I'll probably be at the bar, talking the bartender's ear off, making him wish I had brought a book!

[Bob]

I remember dining alone a few years ago at an Outback in Bethesda, Md taking a "66 Land Rover Series 3 to a buddy in Harrisburg, PA from Orlando. I had mild hearing damage driving that metal-floored beast so I was in no mood for conversation. Just after being served, I thought I'd go outside and grab a Washington Post to read while having dinner. When I came back to my table, it had been cleared by the bus boy. Guess he didn't like reading while dining either. But I managed to read the entire paper while the server got me a free replacement meal. Deal!

[Cil]

lol Bob--I've had stuff like that happen to me (not a good idea to take Cil's food away when I am hungry!)

Beachmouse, there are exceptions to every rule, but I tend to agree with you about how introverts/extroverts approach the dining experience.

Dining alone can be a relief to some, a trial to others, but nobody should have to feel vulnerable or alone or socially inept if they are eating solo.

I've done the eating at the bar thing, I've done the nice table by myself thing, it just depends on the kind of restaurant and how solvent I am feeling.
I've done my dining with reading material and without, but I put it away when it is time to eat. (I do like my food!)

When it comes observing fellow diners at a restaurant, I feel far more scorn and pity for someone who is loudly talking on a cellphone than I would for a person quietly enjoying a book at their meal.

[aquaticbiology]

>I guess my supposed tangent was politically incorrect.

screw 'political correctness' into the wall and hang a picture of red-cheeked santa drinking a frosty one on it!

HA!

Merry Christmas!

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Original_Graphic/2003/12/10/1071071643_7497.jpg
http://www.boston.com/yourlife/specials/giving/events/santa_speedo/
"BC: I bet beer tastes better in a Speedo … especially before you’re about to run around Boston in nothing else but that.

SF: It's the weirdest thing standing in a bar with nothing on but a Speedo and a Santa Hat. You have to have some kind of buzz to do it. I myself do a couple of shots in the two-hour window before the race begins. The spectators in the bar can't contain themselves. It's a free for all. "

[iwishiwasthere]

lol Bob--I've had stuff like that happen to me (not a good idea to take Cil's food away when I am hungry!)

Beachmouse, there are exceptions to every rule, but I tend to agree with you about how introverts/extroverts approach the dining experience.

Dining alone can be a relief to some, a trial to others, but nobody should have to feel vulnerable or alone or socially inept if they are eating solo.

I've done the eating at the bar thing, I've done the nice table by myself thing, it just depends on the kind of restaurant and how solvent I am feeling.
I've done my dining with reading material and without, but I put it away when it is time to eat. (I do like my food!)

When it comes observing fellow diners at a restaurant, I feel far more scorn and pity for someone who is loudly talking on a cellphone than I would for a person quietly enjoying a book at their meal.


I agree totally about the phone, cell or otherwise :bang: , while eating. So thoughtless unless an emergency.

[Paula]

Mr. Mouse and I went to undergrad together at Albion College. (small liberal arts college in Michigan, only Paula here has probably heard of it) then I got my MPP from University of Michigan, and he got his MFA from Michigan State.

Yeah, I know what they say about mixed marriages, but we have a shared love for Da Red Wings, so it actually works out pretty well.

Yup, Albion is a fine college. I have a colleague who went there and two friends of mine have sons going there. I teach one course for the MPP program every fall. The Ford School of Public Policy has a new building that will be completed this year and the Dean that has been there a while is wonderful. If you ever get back there for alumni weekend, let me know...

[Paula]

As for reading alone at restaurants, I think I may try doing more of that when in SoWal because it would be a great way to get to know SoWal better. I usually don't go out to eat when alone, but having a book makes it seem like more fun.

I completely dislike cell phones in restaurants as well (and in cars). I've had a cell phone for 4 years now and still don't know my cell phone number because I never give it out to people. Only my husband and kids know it and others on a need-to-know basis (e.g., the people who fixed our furnace had the number). In fact, when I teach, if a student's cell phone number goes off in class, they have to stand up and sing a song for the rest of the class. We get about one song a semester and then all the cell phones are quickly turned off.

[Landlocked]

Now Phay :roll: , I doubt that would make any lists for being pathetic. :funn:

Wait a minute. Did I miss something?

[Beachlover2]

This certainly is interesting - last night I went out to dinner with my 83 year old mother and she told me for the first time in her life she went to a restaurant by herself last week - I replied - good Mom you should go out by yourself if you feel in the mood for a good meal - I asked her where she went and she said McDonald's - I was hungry for a Big Mac :rolling: :rolling:

Hey it might have taken her 83 years and it might have been McDonalds - but at least she did it. It was a big deal to her.

[kathydwells]

:welcome: Rapunzel. Eat, Drink, READ, Sing, Dance, whatever the heck you want to do. Who gives a SH@#. You think I am not going to do something because someone else thinks it makes me look pathetic???? GEEZ. Ok, so I am sure if I was finished with my book that I was reading while dining alone, and I went to sit at the bar and decided that I would have a few...ok, alot of teqillya...and let's say some jello shots, and a few beers and I fell off my bar stool....now that would be pathetic. But reading a book while dining alone.....I DON'T THINK SO!!!

[CastlesOfSand]

Mr. Mouse and I went to undergrad together at Albion College. (small liberal arts college in Michigan, only Paula here has probably heard of it) then I got my MPP from University of Michigan, and he got his MFA from Michigan State.

Yeah, I know what they say about mixed marriages, but we have a shared love for Da Red Wings, so it actually works out pretty well.

All Right!!!! Another hockey fan on the Sowal board!!! :clap_1: I though I was the only one! Those Red Wings are doing mighty fine this season!!! I had to buy Center Ice so my son can watch all the games! :floor:

[beachmouse]

We've had Center Ice since the 97-98 season, not only for Da Wings, but also for Hockey Night in Canada because I've got to have my Don Cherry fix. If you're ever in SoWal over the winter months, the Pensacola IcePilots have usually been pretty entertaining bush league hockey, and you can get two ice level seats plus dinner for two at McGuire's for less than the price of one lower bowl NHL ticket.

(hey, if every other topic here eventually turns into SEC football, there should be room for the odd hockey tangent)

[jdarg]

I'm still recovering from the Santas in Speedos picture. :eek:

[katie blue]

I am sure if I was finished with my book that I was reading while dining alone, and I went to sit at the bar and decided that I would have a few...ok, alot of teqillya...and let's say some jello shots, and a few beers and I fell off my bar stool....now that would be pathetic. But reading a book while dining alone.....I DON'T THINK SO!!!

:lolabove: :lolabove: funny and true KD. Permission to squelch me if I ever become that woman!

I eat alone a lot and think nothing of it. Talking to a bartender is cool, but if I'm at a table (which is more likely) I enjoy waiting for my meal with a book or newspaper--my life is full and busy, that's a good time to catch up on reading. No offense to anyone, but it is a little bit sad to think there are people out there condescending and judging those of us who do as "pathetic." Different strokes, but that's a different world than I generally run in, I guess.

Personally, I give props to single diners for having enough self confidence to be comfortable alone. Heck, it's likely that they are deep and interesting, and must have their own good thing going on since they're not worried about the perception that they couldn't otherwise find a dining partner...does that make sense?

[seagrovelover]

:lolabove: :lolabove: funny and true KD. Permission to squelch me if I ever become that woman!

I eat alone a lot and think nothing of it. Talking to a bartender is cool, but if I'm at a table (which is more likely) I enjoy waiting for my meal with a book or newspaper--my life is full and busy, that's a good time to catch up on reading. No offense to anyone, but it is a little bit sad to think there are people out there condescending and judging those of us who do as "pathetic." Different strokes, but that's a different world than I generally run in, I guess.

Personally, I give props to single diners for having enough self confidence to be comfortable alone. Heck, it's likely that they are deep and interesting, and must have their own good thing going on since they're not worried about the perception that they couldn't otherwise find a dining partner...does that make sense?




very,very well said KB....... :clap_1: I agree with you 100% ;-)

[jdarg]

Personally, I give props to single diners for having enough self confidence to be comfortable alone. Heck, it's likely that they are deep and interesting, and must have their own good thing going on since they're not worried about the perception that they couldn't otherwise find a dining partner...does that make sense?[/QUOTE]


I agree with you on this- I find solo diners interesting too. There is a sense of mystery there-

Now I've just made myself paranoid. I wonder if anyone thinks I look interesting and mysterious while chowing down and reading! :funn:

[katie blue]

Jdarg, International Woman of Mystery!!

[gotothebeachmom]

Personally, I give props to single diners for having enough self confidence to be comfortable alone. Heck, it's likely that they are deep and interesting, and must have their own good thing going on since they're not worried about the perception that they couldn't otherwise find a dining partner...does that make sense?


I agree with you on this- I find solo diners interesting too. There is a sense of mystery there-

Now I've just made myself paranoid. I wonder if anyone thinks I look interesting and mysterious while chowing down and reading! :funn:[/QUOTE]

No, we just all think you look pathetic.:floor::floor::floor::floor:

[Miss Kitty]

I agree with you on this- I find solo diners interesting too. There is a sense of mystery there-

Now I've just made myself paranoid. I wonder if anyone thinks I look interesting and mysterious while chowing down and reading! :funn:

No, we just all think you look pathetic.:floor::floor::floor::floor:[/QUOTE]

Paranoid and Pathetic...now there's a combo!!!! Don't be Paranoid about it or you'll never be able to finish that book....you'll be too busy looking around to see who is staring at you thinking you are Pathetic!!!!

[Beachside]

A friend just clued me into this site when I mentioned what a shame it was that there was no Zagat's for 30-A. It's been wonderful to find so much good advise. There is one feature of the Zagat's that is missing...the Dining Alone list. Always a godsend for business trips, I have used it everywhere and never minded eating out by myself. I am here for a few months and have made a few attempts to go out and it has been so uncomfortable. When I asked for a table for one, one hostess repeated loudly, "You're by yourself? No one else is coming?"

Any suggestions? Maybe a place where it's possible to eat at the bar?

Borago's Bar is one of the best places to join locals for a dine alone evening; I have eaten there many times when down on business and met some wonderful local business folks. Try one of their Martini Marguerita's - awesome!

[CastlesOfSand]

We've had Center Ice since the 97-98 season, not only for Da Wings, but also for Hockey Night in Canada because I've got to have my Don Cherry fix. If you're ever in SoWal over the winter months, the Pensacola IcePilots have usually been pretty entertaining bush league hockey, and you can get two ice level seats plus dinner for two at McGuire's for less than the price of one lower bowl NHL ticket.

(hey, if every other topic here eventually turns into SEC football, there should be room for the odd hockey tangent)

I checked out the IcePilot website! I see they have Jr. IcePilots as well! We will check them our for sure if we are ever around when they play. My son would love it! McGuires is pretty good too! :biggrin: Here, Here on the hockey tangent!! :floor:

[CastlesOfSand]

No, we just all think you look pathetic.:floor::floor::floor::floor:

Paranoid and Pathetic...now there's a combo!!!! Don't be Paranoid about it or you'll never be able to finish that book....you'll be too busy looking around to see who is staring at you thinking you are Pathetic!!!![/QUOTE]

Jdarg, GTTBM and SS... you gulls are too funny!!!! :floor: :lolabove:

[Smiling JOe]

FYI- Anyone dining at Borago's for the next few weeks will truely be dining alone, because they are taking their Christmas Break. That's okay. Those guys work hard and deserve a break, and it just makes us love it more when they reopen.

[Beach Runner]

FYI- Anyone dining at Borago's for the next few weeks will truely be dining alone, because they are taking their Christmas Break. That's okay. Those guys work hard and deserve a break, and it just makes us love it more when they reopen.
Wha-wha-what? When will they re-open? My heart is fluttering.

[jdarg]

No, we just all think you look pathetic.:floor::floor::floor::floor:[/QUOTE]



Watch it babe- I am an International Woman of Mystery now dontcha know! :cool: (Thanks KB- I feel less paranoid and pathetic now)

[tylerT]

wow. 67 replies to a thread topic titled "dining alone" in a little over 24 hours. we're a deep group aren't we.

[kathydwells]

wow. 67 replies to a thread topic titled "dining alone" in a little over 24 hours. we're a deep group aren't we.

Yes we are. No further comment.

[Miss Kitty]

wow. 67 replies to a thread topic titled "dining alone" in a little over 24 hours. we're a deep group aren't we.

WELL...I like to think I'm deep!!!!

[Mermaid]

WELL...I like to think I'm deep!!!!

Yeah, Miss Kitty, over the deep end is more like it! :floor: (I'm just teasing you, sweetie.) :wub:

[whiteyfunn]

Yeah, Miss Kitty, over the deep end is more like it! :floor: (I'm just teasing you, sweetie.) :wub:

I think we all need to go dine alone together!! What do you say??

[Beach Runner]

I think we all need to go dine alone together!! What do you say??
Yeah, great idea. I'll be there the week after Christmas.

[Miss Kitty]

Yeah, Miss Kitty, over the deep end is more like it! :floor: (I'm just teasing you, sweetie.) :wub:

"hardi" har har...figure that out and I will give you.....a surprise!!!

[Mermaid]

I think we all need to go dine alone together!! What do you say??


Whew. Am I slow on the uptake or what? I just figured out what you meant. :floor:

[whiteyfunn]

"hardi" har har...figure that out and I will give you.....a surprise!!!

Dunzo!!! We should all like party at my house. It's got a pool and hot tub!

[Smiling JOe]

Dunzo!!! We should all like party at my house. It's got a pool and hot tub!May we bring books?:floor:

[Miss Kitty]

May we bring books?:floor:

Only if you promise not to be pathetic or paranoid!!! I can't believe this....I am normally down there from Dec. 29 - Jan 6. I will MISS y'all!!!!

[Bob]

WELL...I like to think I'm deep!!!!"Big Chill"...William Hurt says to Jeff Goldblum "you're so deep" not as a compliment.

[Rita]

I think we all need to go dine alone together!! What do you say??
:rofl:

[Beach Runner]

May we bring books?:floor:
I ain't bringing no book. I wanna TALK!

BTW I'm so excited - Snoop is on Leno in a few minutes!!!!!!!!

[whiteyfunn]

I ain't bringing no book. I wanna TALK!

BTW I'm so excited - Snoop is on Leno in a few minutes!!!!!!!!

Ok, I have so many questions for you BR. Do you live in Chisholm (LL)? Question two tomorrow. But, we'll see BR the same place, the same time. Thanks for joining us on 20 Questions!!!

[CastlesOfSand]

I ain't bringing no book. I wanna TALK!

BTW I'm so excited - Snoop is on Leno in a few minutes!!!!!!!!

Oprah is on Dave too!! :rolling:

[Beach Runner]

Oprah is on Dave too!! :rolling:
Snoop hasn't shown up yet. Must be all coked out in the back room.

[CastlesOfSand]

Snoop hasn't shown up yet. Must be all coked out in the back room.

Oprah and Dave are making up!!! The feud is OVER!!!!

[Landlocked]

Ok, I have so many questions for you BR. Do you live in Chisholm (LL)? Question two tomorrow. But, we'll see BR the same place, the same time. Thanks for joining us on 20 Questions!!!

:lolabove: :floor:

[whiteyfunn]

:lolabove: :floor:

Chisholm- an area of Montgomery near the fair grounds. Just another way of saying "Cue the circus music."

[Tupelo Honey]

But some of these so-called "rules" are actually ones meant to keep singles from eating alone, particularly women (who not too long ago were never supposed to be unaccompained in public spaces like bars or restaurants.)

There is certainly truth to this.

I dine alone all the time. What bothers me is the wait staff's attitude towards me, a single woman. I noticed this in some restaurants in Walton County. Though I am polite, I am still given sub-standard treatment: ignored, no bread, no drink refill, check comes before dessert offer, check slapped on table with no smile, no eye contact.

It is assumed that I will leave little or no tip since it is believed that women do not know how to tip, so any effort on my behalf is futile.Also, I imagine the sight of a single woman dining alone looks pathetic and may hurt their business, so I am seated in a dark corner.

Ha, now I bring post-it notes with me, and whenever I get bad service, I leave a note explaining why I left a minimal tip, if any at all. Otherwise, I leave generous tips for great service. When I return, they DO remember how well I treated them and they treat me right.

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I love dining at both the upstairs and downstairs bars at Bud And Alleys. I like to sit there and write in my journal over bottomless glasses of tea and those sweet potato fries.

I also appreciate sushi bars who put up a sign, “No cell phones, please.”

[jdarg]

This is a great thread revival- thanks Tupelo! And:welcome: !

I just re-read the whole thread- it appears that Rapunzel found us here!:biggrin: For better or worse- you are stuck with us now!

I remember this heated discussion - should one read while dining out alone? Has anyone had any good dining alone experiences since last year?

[rapunzel]

Oh, my gosh. This was my first post. It's been revived, and now I realize I know most of these people that replied.

It's funny that the old wait staff stereotype never entered my mind. I waited tables in college, and I know that the 'women don't tip' thing is out there, but I've always been able to get decent service when I'm alone in big cities. Who knows if it is the cause, or if the wait person is just irritated that they have a table with just one person and therefore a smaller check/tip. I do know that I have eaten many meals alone in SoWal since I posted this last year, and I have had almost universally bad service on those occasions.

I have some tips for dining alone in SoWal.... First, call ahead and make sure the restaurant isn't too busy. When they are slow, they seem to not mind a solo customer as much. Second, if you are going to sit at the bar regardless of what the book says about looking pathetic it is best to have a book or people frequently assume you're looking to pick up. Finally, try Basmati's or Amore...both restaurants are very solo dining friendly.

[Miss Kitty]

:clap_1: :floor: :lolabove:

rapunzey's first thread and Brutalizing BR!!! Those were the days!!! I also love how Mermy zinged me and then say...just kidding! :biggrin:

[DD]

:clap_1: :floor: :lolabove:

rapunzey's first thread and Brutalizing BR!!! Those were the days!!! I also love how Mermy zinged me and then say...just kidding! :biggrin:

I love going back and reading old threads. Looks like I'll be doing a lot of that tonight.

[Smiling JOe]

Oh, my gosh. This was my first post. It's been revived, and now I realize I know most of these people that replied.

It's funny that the old wait staff stereotype never entered my mind. I waited tables in college, and I know that the 'women don't tip' thing is out there, but I've always been able to get decent service when I'm alone in big cities. Who knows if it is the cause, or if the wait person is just irritated that they have a table with just one person and therefore a smaller check/tip. I do know that I have eaten many meals alone in SoWal since I posted this last year, and I have had almost universally bad service on those occasions.

I have some tips for dining alone in SoWal.... First, call ahead and make sure the restaurant isn't too busy. When they are slow, they seem to not mind a solo customer as much. Second, if you are going to sit at the bar regardless of what the book says about looking pathetic it is best to have a book or people frequently assume you're looking to pick up. Finally, try Basmati's or Amore...both restaurants are very solo dining friendly.In SoWal, I don't think it matters if you are dining alone, or with six friends. Great service is hard to come by unless you are dining at the right places, and I am not giving out any of my favorite restaurants for service.

[Tupelo Honey]

This is a great thread revival- thanks Tupelo! And:welcome: !


Hey there, Jdarg and everyone! Thanks for the welcome! :D

[Paula]

There is certainly truth to this.

I dine alone all the time. What bothers me is the wait staff's attitude towards me, a single woman. I noticed this in some restaurants in Walton County. Though I am polite, I am still given sub-standard treatment: ignored, no bread, no drink refill, check comes before dessert offer, check slapped on table with no smile, no eye contact.

It is assumed that I will leave little or no tip since it is believed that women do not know how to tip, so any effort on my behalf is futile.Also, I imagine the sight of a single woman dining alone looks pathetic and may hurt their business, so I am seated in a dark corner.

Ha, now I bring post-it notes with me, and whenever I get bad service, I leave a note explaining why I left a minimal tip, if any at all. Otherwise, I leave generous tips for great service. When I return, they DO remember how well I treated them and they treat me right.

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I love dining at both the upstairs and downstairs bars at Bud And Alleys. I like to sit there and write in my journal over bottomless glasses of tea and those sweet potato fries.

I also appreciate sushi bars who put up a sign, “No cell phones, please.”


One thing to do (and that I will do because of your post which is a bit scary in terms of service) is to let the wait staff know when I sit down that I'm treating myself to a special meal and that I'm looking forward to my stay at the restaurant because I heard their service can be very good. Then, if they accommodate me, I'd leave a good tip. One of the nice things about going to the same places repeatedly is that you can develop a good relationship with people and they learn how you want to be treated. If they don't learn after a few visits, then it's probably not a place you want to go to. Of course, with staff turnover it can be harder to get that routine, especially if you (like me) only get to SoWal every few months.

[joho]

There is certainly truth to this.

I dine alone all the time. What bothers me is the wait staff's attitude towards me, a single woman. I noticed this in some restaurants in Walton County. Though I am polite, I am still given sub-standard treatment: ignored, no bread, no drink refill, check comes before dessert offer, check slapped on table with no smile, no eye contact.

It is assumed that I will leave little or no tip since it is believed that women do not know how to tip, so any effort on my behalf is futile.Also, I imagine the sight of a single woman dining alone looks pathetic and may hurt their business, so I am seated in a dark corner.

Ha, now I bring post-it notes with me, and whenever I get bad service, I leave a note explaining why I left a minimal tip, if any at all. Otherwise, I leave generous tips for great service. When I return, they DO remember how well I treated them and they treat me right.

--------------------------------------

I love dining at both the upstairs and downstairs bars at Bud And Alleys. I like to sit there and write in my journal over bottomless glasses of tea and those sweet potato fries.

I also appreciate sushi bars who put up a sign, “No cell phones, please.”


Next time you go out to dinner sit at the bar..............it's much more fun if your single! ;-)

[rapunzel]

So I'm thinking of going out to eat as a singleton again soon...does anyone have any thoughts on Onano, Gravel Road, and Rendevous? General observations and ratings on single-friendliness would be most welcome!

[Beach Runner]

So I'm thinking of going out to eat as a singleton again soon...does anyone have any thoughts on Onano, Gravel Road, and Rendevous? General observations and ratings on single-friendliness would be most welcome!
Go to Onano, and Penny will make you feel comfortable and welcome. Ask about the baby, and you're golden! The food is good, and the atmosphere is even better.

[Allifunn]

TANGENTS ARE OUR LIFEBLOOD!
some things NEVER change.....:floor: :floor:
:welcome: Rapunzel,

Definitely try Borago. You'll get good service there, very friendly, attractive and the food is top notch also. Always someone ready for good conversation.
you had an inside track...didn't you girl!:wub:
Yeah, Miss Kitty, over the deep end is more like it! :floor: (I'm just teasing you, sweetie.) :wub:

"hardi" har har...figure that out and I will give you.....a surprise!!!you ladies are still in a love/hate relationship......:floor: :clap_1: :wub: :biggrin:

Oh, my gosh. This was my first post. It's been revived, and now I realize I know most of these people that replied.

quote]:wub: :wub: when you posted this, you stated that you were only dining alone for a few months...and now look at you, a permnant resident :clap_1: :wub: But you have adorable Skunky from time-to-time, plus a ton of new SoWal friends! :biggrin:

[quote=destindreamin;170394]I love going back and reading old threads. Looks like I'll be doing a lot of that tonight. does this mean you are pathetically alone tonight? :biggrin:

[scenethief]

I remember once seeing a family of three eating at a sandwich shop and all three members were reading their own book!! Crazy.

That being said, when I eat alone, I have no problem bringing something to read. It just depends on the time and place.

If you have not tried Vintij in Mirimar Beach, you should. It is in the strip center with McCallisters and Alltel. Before I went in, I thought this can't be that good being in the strip center. But what a pleasant surprise. Outstanding apps, great entrees, and the wines are top notch.

And I ate at the bar, by myself. :D

[Allifunn]

I remember once seeing a family of three eating at a sandwich shop and all three members were reading their own book!! Crazy.

That being said, when I eat alone, I have no problem bringing something to read. It just depends on the time and place.

If you have not tried Vintij in Mirimar Beach, you should. It is in the strip center with McCallisters and Alltel. Before I went in, I thought this can't be that good being in the strip center. But what a pleasant surprise. Outstanding apps, great entrees, and the wines are top notch.

And I ate at the bar, by myself. :D:welcome: :welcome: Scenethief and :clap_1: :clap_1: I have been known to eat in a resturant alone, and read a book or magazine... as far as I am concerned...I am my own best company....:biggrin:

[DD]

does this mean you are pathetically alone tonight? :biggrin:

Naw, I think I posted this on the dead night when no one was posting besides me! :biggrin:

[Beach Runner]

My favorite place to dine solo in Atlanta is the Houston's at West Paces Ferry at I-75. There are a lot of solo diners there, and I've never seen one with a book. If you're at a table, people-watching is too much funn. And if you're at the bar, there is always someone who wants to engage in conversation.

Houston's is also one of my favorite places to dine with those I love -- much better than solo.

I *will* be there this weekend.