I'm Old Fashion...all below applies

[Andy A.]

Do any of you have any idea what has really transpired in the last decades except for your perception of how bad the last eight years have been? Here is a little piece for your consideration and a small insight into where a lot of those of my generation are coming from.

How old is Grandpa???

Stay with this -- the answer is at the end. It will blow you
away.
One evening a grandson was talking to his grandfather about
current events.
The grandson asked his grandfather what he thought about the
shootings at schools, the computer age, an d just things in general.
The Grandfather replied, "Well, let me think a minute, I was
born before:

' television

' penicillin

' polio shots

' frozen foods

' Xerox
' contact lenses

' Frisbees and

' the pill

There were no:

'credit cards

' laser beams or

' ball-point pens

Man had not invented:

' panty hose

' air conditioners

' dishwashers

' clothes dryers

' and the clothes were hung out to dry in the fresh air and

' man hadn't yet walked on the moon


Your Grandmother and I got married first, . . .and then lived
together.
Every family had a father and a mother.
Until I was 25, I called every man older than me, "Sir".
And after I turned 25, I still called policemen and every man
with a title, "Sir."

We were before gay-rights, computer- dating, dual careers,
day-care centers, and group therapy.

Our lives were governed by the Ten Commandments, good
judgment, and common sense..

We were taught to know the difference between right and wrong
and to stand up and take responsibility for our actions.
Serving your country was a privilege; living in this country
was a bigger privilege.
We thought fast food was what people ate during Lent.
Having a meaningful relationship meant getting along with your
cousins.
Draft dodgers were people who closed their front doors when
the evening breeze started.
Time-sharing meant time the family spent together in the
evenings and weekends-not purchasing condominiums.
We never heard of FM radios, tape decks, CDs, electric
typewriters, yogurt, or guys wearing earrings.
We listened to the Big Bands, Jack Benny, and the President's
speeches on our radios.
And I don't ever remember any kid blowing his brains out
listening to Tommy Dorsey.
If you saw anything with 'Made in Japan' on it, it was junk.
The term 'making out' referred to how you did on your school
exam.
Pizza Hut, McDonald's, and instant coffee were unheard of.
We had 5 &10-cent stores where you could actually buy things
for 5 and 10 cents.
Ice-cream cones, phone calls, rides on a streetcar, and a
Pepsi were all a nickel.
And if you didn't want to splurge, you could spend your nickel
on enough stamps to mail 1 letter and 2 postcards.
You! could buy a new Chevy Coupe for $600, . . but who could
afford one?
Too bad, because gas was 11 cents a gallon.

In my day:

' "grass" was mowed,

' "coke" was a cold drink,

' "pot" was something your mother cooked in and

' "rock music" was your grandmother's lullaby.

' "Aids" were helpers in the Principal's office,

' " chip" meant a piece of wood,

' "hardware" was found in a hardware store and

' "software" wasn't even a word.

And we were the last generation to actually believe that a
lady needed a husband to have a baby. No wonder people call us "old and
confused" and say there is a generation gap... and how old do you think I
am?
I bet you have this old man in mind... you are in for a shock!

Read on to see -- pretty scary if you think about it and
pretty sad at the same time..

Are you ready ?????



This man would be only 59 years old.

[elgordoboy]

Area 51 has allowed a tremendous leap forward in technology I agree, but I don't know if I agree that it is all positive.

[John R]

TRECKBERG@... somebody's email address you really want to post on the internet??

this ditty has made it's way around so many times. your enthusiasm is quaint though. might not want to copy>paste all the way up into the senders addy though.

[LuciferSam]

TRECKBERG@... somebody's email address you really want to post on the internet??

this ditty has made it's way around so many times. your enthusiasm is quaint though. might not want to copy>paste all the way up into the senders addy though.

That's the old fashioned (1996) way of doing copy and paste.

[Andy A.]

TRECKBERG@... somebody's email address you really want to post on the internet??

this ditty has made it's way around so many times. your enthusiasm is quaint though. might not want to copy>paste all the way up into the senders addy though.
Yeah, I didn't notice the email address. I PM Kurt because I couldn't figure out on the "Edit" page how to delete it. I guess I'll quit posting threads as they seem to irritate those that have already seen them. If anyone can tell me how to delete the email address I would be most appreciative.

[Andy A.]

TRECKBERG@... somebody's email address you really want to post on the internet??

this ditty has made it's way around so many times. your enthusiasm is quaint though. might not want to copy>paste all the way up into the senders addy though.

That's the old fashioned (1996) way of doing copy and paste.
Please bear in mind what is "old" to you is "new" to some. I am relatively unfamilar with computers compared to those who grew up with them. I ask for help with a problem, admittedly of my own making, and all I get is sarcasm. Thanks a lot!

[aggieb]

[quote=LuciferSam;462304]
Please bear in mind what is "old" to you is "new" to some. I am relatively unfamilar with computers compared to those who grew up with them. I ask for help with a problem, admittedly of my own making, and all I get is sarcasm. Thanks a lot!
:( if i knew how to help ya out andy a. i would.

[elgordoboy]

Please bear in mind what is "old" to you is "new" to some. I am relatively unfamilar with computers compared to those who grew up with them. I ask for help with a problem, admittedly of my own making, and all I get is sarcasm. Thanks a lot!
I don't know either or I'd help too. I like to poke fun at you not make fun of you! Don't take any of this so personal.

[ASH]

Don't sweat it Andy A. Keep right on a posting. Someone has to keep all those lurkers busy out there.
Usually if you go back to the original post and click on the edit button at the bottom, it will bring up the whole original message and you can swipe and backspace to delete unwanted words. Then hit save and you should be set. Otherwise, Kurt will see your distress signal and step in for you.

[scooterbug44]

This man would be only 59 years old.

Interesting since my dad is 58, a former hippie, I'm sure he smoked pot, he and my mother lived together before marriage, and mom also worked full time. :wave:

There's a similar one about things that have always been around for this year's college or HS grads. Cool/scary to see the differences! :blink:

[elgordoboy]

Don't sweat it Andy A. Keep right on a posting. Someone has to keep all those lurkers busy out there.
Usually if you go back to the original post and click on the edit button at the bottom, it will bring up the whole original message and you can swipe and backspace to delete unwanted words. Then hit save and you should be set. Otherwise, Kurt will see your distress signal and step in for you.
The problem, I think, is that it is in the title of the thread. I haven't been able to edit my own mistakes there before.

[aleonard]

Sending out the daddy-o bat signal:wave:

[John R]

...I guess I'll quit posting threads as they seem to irritate those that have already seen them. If anyone can tell me how to delete the email address I would be most appreciative.

irritating? no way. hilarious? always. especially the 'i'm old, don't pick on me stuff'. so your keyboard skills can't keep up with your razor sharp wit? oh well...

only the admin seems to be able to edit thread title on this BB.

[Andy A.]

To who ever removed the email address from the title, thank you very much. It was a stupid error.

[DuneLaker]

I enjoyed reading your post Andy A. I had not seen it. Lots of other people are posting things off the internet or copying from someone else. Thanks.

[tofu]

My response to the original writer of this email ("Grandpa")

Man had not invented:

...

' air conditioners

' dishwashers

' clothes dryers

' and the clothes were hung out to dry in the fresh air and

How inconvenient. Aren't you people in my generation glad you didn't live back when times were simpler, and if you were hot you had to open the window or something? That sounds horrible.

I personally love A/C. Dishwashers are pretty nice too.

Every family had a father and a mother.Doubt it. Everything looks better in the past.
You know, "the good ol' days," or "the summer of '69," etc. You forget about all the bad stuff going on. There were families without fathers and mothers then too. Divorce was around, and so were children before marriage.

Until I was 25, I called every man older than me, "Sir".
And after I turned 25, I still called policemen and every man
with a title, "Sir."Lots of people still do this! :idontno:

We were before gay-rights,How backward.

computer- dating, dual careers,
day-care centers, and group therapy.I have my suspicions on the dual careers and day-care centers. Maybe they weren't as common. Or maybe everything looks better through the "past goggles."

Our lives were governed by the Ten Commandments, good
judgment, and common sense..Cuz we have no good jugment or common sense nowadays! :roll:
Many people still live on the Ten Commandments, too.

We were taught to know the difference between right and wrong
and to stand up and take responsibility for our actions.Wow, you must have gone to school with me! Maybe you're not as old as you thought.

Serving your country was a privilege; living in this country
was a bigger privilege.I'm sure it wasn't to everyone, just as it isn't to everyone now.

We thought fast food was what people ate during Lent.Fast food restaurants just weren't as common. They were going through massive expansion around the time "grandpa" or the writer of this email lived.

Draft dodgers were people who closed their front doors when
the evening breeze started.I bet they were around, you just didn't hear about them 'til the Vietnam War.

Time-sharing meant time the family spent together in the
evenings and weekends-not purchasing condominiums.Sure it wasn't sharing time?

We never heard of FM radios, tape decks, CDs, electric
typewriters, yogurt, or guys wearing earrings.Tape decks? Electric typewriters? What now? :blink:
We listened to the Big Bands, Jack Benny, and the President's
speeches on our radios.Isn't it great that music isn't the same as it used to be? That would be so boring.

If you saw anything with 'Made in Japan' on it, it was junk.Good thing we know now that not EVERYTHING made in Japan is junk.

The term 'making out' referred to how you did on your school
exam.Maybe, but I'm sure you guys still did it.

Pizza Hut, McDonald's, and instant coffee were unheard of.Isn't business great, here in the land of capitalism?

We had 5 &10-cent stores where you could actually buy things
for 5 and 10 cents.Inflation.

Ice-cream cones, phone calls, rides on a streetcar, and a
Pepsi were all a nickel.
And if you didn't want to splurge, you could spend your nickel
on enough stamps to mail 1 letter and 2 postcards.
You! could buy a new Chevy Coupe for $600, . . but who could
afford one?
Too bad, because gas was 11 cents a gallon.See above, and of course add the oil situations for gas. I'm sure there were price conflicts back then too. Hell, didn't you live through the '70s, grandpa?

In my day:

' "grass" was mowed,Still is.

' "coke" was a cold drink,Still is. Well if you put it in the fridge.

' "pot" was something your mother cooked in andYou guys smoked reefers back then and it was more accepted than it is now.

' "rock music" was your grandmother's lullaby.See above WRT music. It would be sooo boring if it sounded the same as it did 60 years ago.

' "Aids" were helpers in the Principal's office,Diseases are sad aren't they? Isn't it great that we have so many more vaccinations now?

' "software" wasn't even a word.But hey, aren't you glad that your bank and accountant are more efficient and less prone to error? You have software to thank.

And we were the last generation to actually believe that a
lady needed a husband to have a baby.So I guess you guys didn't have adoption?

No wonder people call us "old and
confused" and say there is a generation gap... and how old do you think I
am?Old and confused.. a little (just inflation and all that). Generation gap.. yeah. You think MY generation has no morals and accepts no responsibility. You are against air conditioning for some reason. WTF?

Read on to see -- pretty scary if you think about it and
pretty sad at the same time..What's scary is that people do not appreciate modern innovations because they are not simple enough... or are against newfound civil liberties.. or accuse my generation of not having any morals. I find this utterly repugnant.

[hnooe]

A very sweet story of a different age. As a boomer there is just on thing I truly miss--I miss being not always accessible and not always being connnected to anyone or anything at times. I dont think anyone knows what it is really like to be truly alone with yourself--it can be outright joyous!

[tofu]

A very sweet story of a different age. As a boomer there is just on thing I truly miss--I miss being not always accessible and not always being connnected to anyone or anything at times. I dont think anyone knows what it is really like to be truly alone with yourself--it can be outright joyous!
Just turn off your computer, TV, cell phone, silence your landline.. :idontno:

[sowalgayboi]

Just turn off your computer, TV, cell phone, silence your landline.. :idontno:

Don't forget to hide in the basement. Those stubborn friends will google your neighbors and call them to tell you to turn everything back on. :lol:

[cp]

Just turn off your computer, TV, cell phone, silence your landline.. :idontno:
so everyone can fuss at you when they do finally reach you??:angry:

[Miss Kitty]

Andy,

I consider myself "old fashion" in many ways, too. Heavens, I have only used an ATM machine twice in my life...I drive through the bank and cash a check for cash! However, I believe if one stays stuck in the olden days and never grows with the times, they really lose out. Having old fashion morals and values is a good foundation, but IMO, a human should be evolving. ;-) I look forward to your response.

[Bob]

thank goodness the good ole days are gone...Tommy Dorsey, hell, I would commit suicide having to listen to that or Welk, Miller,etc. The only one of that generation to be worthy of longevity was Sinatra.

[Smiling JOe]

Kitty, do you write checks at the gas stations and grocery store, too?

[Miss Kitty]

Kitty, do you write checks at the gas stations and grocery store, too?


I have given up the checkbook out in public, except for Dr.s that don't credit cards. I now put everything on a card....huge change for me. The biggest update is that Mr. K made me sit down with him and enter all the info for paying bills online. :eek:

[elgordoboy]

Andy,

I consider myself "old fashion" in many ways, too. Heavens, I have only used an ATM machine twice in my life...I drive through the bank and cash a check for cash! However, I believe if one stays stuck in the olden days and never grows with the times, they really lose out. Having old fashion morals and values is a good foundation, but IMO, a human should be evolving. ;-) I look forward to your response.
Yes! We should not be human beings but human growings :lol:

[Andy A.]

Andy,

I consider myself "old fashion" in many ways, too. Heavens, I have only used an ATM machine twice in my life...I drive through the bank and cash a check for cash! However, I believe if one stays stuck in the olden days and never grows with the times, they really lose out. Having old fashion morals and values is a good foundation, but IMO, a human should be evolving. ;-) I look forward to your response.
Miss Kitty, it is really too bad and extremely narrow minded that some could not perceive why I posted this thread. It was to show how far we have progressed in only 59 years. Remember, I can see that great progress for 18 additional years. I almost wish I hadn't posted it, but did so because I felt it showed much of our progress and also some of our shortcomings as well as things we may have lost along the way. Of course we should always evolve and we have. But some of that evolution may not have been in our best interest. It is all in the eye of the beholder as everyone has a different definition of what true progress is. Of this there is no doubt. My generation, yours and the ones before ours contributed to the comfort, better health and improvement of our lives. The present and upcoming generations will continue to do the same, I have no doubt. I am disheartened that it appears to a few that some of my generation are stuck "in the olden days and never grow with the times". Personally, I have never felt this perception applies to me although I know I have not kept up with the world of technology as I should have. To close, the idea was to show not only what changes in technology and life easing comforts have transpired but also the changes in the mores and morals of yesterday. And despite what tofu says in his long analysis of the post, much of what was stated was as stated and in many ways has changed. The post was not intended to be a indictment of the present generation as tofu seem to take it. It was pictured by me as very interesting take on how we had evolved in the world of material things and how some of our attitudes regarding our personal lives have changed. That is my response.

[InletBchDweller]

Andy, thanks for the post. I often talked to my grandfather about how times have changed. He was born in 1900 and died in 2000.:( He had seen many things.

I don't care if this has been posted before or not. At my age, 38, I already tend to forget things...:lol:

I am amazed how nasty people have been on the board...how sad. This, IMO, was not a post that warranted nastiness...

[tofu]

And despite what tofu says in his long analysis of the post, much of what was stated was as stated and in many ways has changed. The post was not intended to be a indictment of the present generation as tofu seem to take it. It was pictured by me as very interesting take on how we had evolved in the world of material things and how some of our attitudes regarding our personal lives have changed. That is my response.
I don't think the entire post is an indictment of the present generation, and I don't doubt your sincerity in posting it. I apologize if my post offended you. It was not intended to be offensive. However, I meant every word of it. The original email has a snide tone to it. There is only one way to interpret someone saying "back in my day we were taught the difference between right and wrong and we took responsibility for our actions." (paraphrase) It's implying that that's not how things are today. I hear this all the time and I am sick of it. With respect I say that anything posted in the political forum is fair game.

And yes, it is amazing how much the world has changed in the last 60 years. IMO, almost completely for the better.

[Chickpea]

Andy, thanks for the post. I often talked to my grandfather about how times have changed. He was born in 1900 and died in 2000.:( He had seen many things.

I don't care if this has been posted before or not. At my age, 38, I already tend to forget things...:lol:

I am amazed how nasty people have been on the board...how sad. This, IMO, was not a post that warranted nastiness...

Agreed!!!

[chrisv]

Andy, keep posting, please. Not many of us here that have the cohones to fly Mohawks in wartime under enemy fire at treetop-level and then land on a strip the length of a couple football fields.

[Miss Kitty]

Andy, keep posting, please. Not many of us here that have the cohones to fly Mohawks in wartime under enemy fire at treetop-level and then land on a strip the length of a couple football fields.

Absolutely agree. Andy A. has the same rights to his opinion as everyone else on this board. I would only add that although I can surely understand how these discussions can feel personal sometimes, think about the tone of your posts and try to keep your message in the fore front.

[Andy A.]

Andy, keep posting, please. Not many of us here that have the cohones to fly Mohawks in wartime under enemy fire at treetop-level and then land on a strip the length of a couple football fields.
SoWal never ceases to amaze me. Thank you, CV, for the very kind words and complement. The OV-1 Mohawk is now an "old fashion aircraft but in its time it was the rock star of Army aviation and a hoot to fly. BTW, I will be attending the 19th OV-1 Mohawk reunion in Portland, Oregon on Sept. 25 thru 27th. For those who may be interested in finding out more about this airplane go to:
http://www.ov-1mohawk.org

[Ocean Lover]

SoWal never ceases to amaze me. Thank you, CV, for the very kind words and complement. The OV-1 Mohawk is now an "old fashion aircraft but in its time it was the rock star of Army aviation and a hoot to fly. BTW, I will be attending the 19th OV-1 Mohawk reunion in Portland, Oregon on Sept. 25 thru 27th. For those who may be interested in finding out more about this airplane go to:
http://www.ov-1mohawk.org

:cool: