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bsullie
11-18-2005, 07:01 PM
While eating at the Old Florida...I heard some people saying that Shades in Seaside lost their lease and will close December 31st with a huge free food and booze party...anybody elso know about this? Also, I heard that Bud and Alleys will loose their lease next year...what the H___ is the controlling person of Seaside thinking...Fermentations replaced by a flower shop? Must be someone who doesn't get it... :idontno:

skippertoo
11-18-2005, 07:13 PM
I tried to find you the info on the seaside site but could not. There was a big writeup last spring in the seaside times that talked about the original plan and doing away with the wooden temporary buildings. Maybe someone has it and can post it.

Smiling JOe
11-18-2005, 07:23 PM
While eating at the Old Florida...I heard some people saying that Shades in Seaside lost their lease and will close December 31st with a huge free food and booze party...anybody elso know about this? Also, I heard that Bud and Alleys will loose their lease next year...what the H___ is the controlling person of Seaside thinking...Fermentations replaced by a flower shop? Must be someone who doesn't get it... :idontno:

Yes, Fermentations, which had their final blowout party on New Years Eve in 2004, was sadly replaced with a flower shop which specialized in weddings. The flower shop closed the doors a while back. What Seaside was thinking, I do not know.

I have not heard a specific date for Shades closing.

Kimmifunn
11-18-2005, 07:42 PM
You can have Shades...But Bud's cannot close. :pissed: I'll chain myself to the rooftop bar. Over my dead body. :pissed:

Beach Runner
11-18-2005, 08:00 PM
Yes, Shades is out of there at the end of December. I have heard that for several years that Bud & Alley's is getting shafted by Seaside and that David has had better offers elsewhere. So sad. :puke: Seaside will never be the same.

Shades will be replaced by a white-tablecloth restaurant. Dunno what we'll use as a substitute for Shades' casual menu.

Smiling JOe
11-18-2005, 09:08 PM
Yes, Shades is out of there at the end of December. I have heard that for several years that Bud & Alley's is getting shafted by Seaside and that David has had better offers elsewhere. So sad. :puke: Seaside will never be the same.

Shades will be replaced by a white-tablecloth restaurant. Dunno what we'll use as a substitute for Shades' casual menu.

I hear the new JB's Chinese Buffet, located in Freeport, has a casual menu. :funn:

Johnrudy
11-18-2005, 09:10 PM
I hear the new JB's Chinese Buffet, located in Freeport, has a casual menu. :funn:
SJ,
Is your avatar a dog or a cow?

Beach Runner
11-18-2005, 09:18 PM
I hear the new JB's Chinese Buffet, located in Freeport, has a casual menu. :funn:
So does Texas Roadhouse in Newnan, GA. How is that (i.e., restaurants in Freeport) relevant? There's also Mr. Ho (LOLOL), a Chinese buffet in Elba. Should I drive there for dinner?

Hey, SJ, I've just dishing out what you're dishing out, all in fun and friendship, at least on my side of the fence. :D

Or are we stuck with spending a minimum of $20 a person for dinner on 30-A? Guess I'll get off my lazy rear and cook at night (or pick up steamed shrimp at Goatfeathers and a salad at Publix),

gotothebeachmom
11-18-2005, 09:49 PM
You can have Shades...But Bud's cannot close. :pissed: I'll chain myself to the rooftop bar. Over my dead body. :pissed:

I'll be with you Girl! What should I wear??????? !!!!!!!! :eek::eek::eek: Miss Kitty will be on "THE LOVE BOAT!" ( Barry White's voice just entered my body! how skeery!) I'll be there for me, Miss Kitty, MM, Merman, GTTBD, and HMM) just help me on the appropriate attire!

Smiling JOe
11-18-2005, 09:58 PM
So does Texas Roadhouse in Newnan, GA. How is that (i.e., restaurants in Freeport) relevant? There's also Mr. Ho (LOLOL), a Chinese buffet in Elba. Should I drive there for dinner?

Hey, SJ, I've just dishing out what you're dishing out, all in fun and friendship, at least on my side of the fence. :D

Or are we stuck with spending a minimum of $20 a person for dinner on 30-A? Guess I'll get off my lazy rear and cook at night (or pick up steamed shrimp at Goatfeathers and a salad at Publix),
The relevence is that one day, we will all drive to Freeport to eat casual food, and it is much closer than Elba.;-)

Beach Runner
11-18-2005, 10:02 PM
Or cook. That's scary! But better than Micky D's everywhere. :D

Smiling JOe
11-18-2005, 10:07 PM
Or cook. That's scary! But better than Micky D's everywhere. :D I'm not sure if JB's is better than the bright yellow arches, but I can guarantee you that most home cooking from fellow posters is much better than the big M, and probably much more convenient than driving to Destin to go through the fast food company's drive thru window.

Miss Kitty
11-18-2005, 10:29 PM
I hear the new JB's Chinese Buffet, located in Freeport, has a casual menu. :funn:

Where you can wear your CASUAL clothes!!!

gotothebeachmom
11-18-2005, 10:32 PM
Where you can wear your CASUAL clothes!!!

What freakin ever!!!!!!! Not Bud& Alley's.That's our place!

dbuck
11-18-2005, 10:33 PM
Where you can wear your CASUAL clothes!!!

Yes, maybe a velvet jacket with jeans.

gotothebeachmom
11-18-2005, 10:35 PM
Yes, maybe a velvet jacket with jeans.

Can't afford that? NEXT OPTION!!

jdarg
11-18-2005, 10:46 PM
Can't afford that? NEXT OPTION!!


Purple hair and flippies?

Kimmifunn
11-18-2005, 11:58 PM
What freakin ever!!!!!!! Not Bud& Alley's.That's our place!
The A-team has way too many memories there. And not to mention, personally attached to the staff. I will not let Bud's go down. No way.

kurt
11-19-2005, 12:06 AM
Have heard that Shades is gone soon but haven't heard about anything free.

Bud & Alley's is not closing.

Miss Kitty
11-19-2005, 06:17 AM
Have heard that Shades is gone soon but haven't heard about anything free.

Bud & Alley's is not closing.

Thank goodness for this news. I was on the way and after stopping at Frank's C & C for heavy chain and locks....I was proceeding to meet gttbm, phd., the Funn's, et. al. on the top of B & A's, where we would be chaining ourselves to the bar. No velvet allowed (sorry BR...laugh with me on this one!!!) Don't mess with Miss Kitty's favorite catbox!!!!!

Kimmifunn
11-19-2005, 06:29 AM
Have heard that Shades is gone soon but haven't heard about anything free.

Bud & Alley's is not closing.
So can we officially put the B&A rumor to rest.

aquaticbiology
11-19-2005, 07:06 AM
Been here before. Would not hold my breath about it being ok. There are many, many similar cases where the management just dosen't get it and needs to be 're-educated'.

You can do a preemptive strike, or you can mourn over the ashes of your favorite watering hole after the management has their way.

Best idea is to move the establishment out of the danger zone (hopefully out of the subdivision completely because soon there won't be anything left of merit - all upscale potties you might go to once or twice for a function but certainly not daily).

Realize that the management, who probably fly in once a month or even less, detest 'casual' and don't like 'those kind of people', especially "bars", which "bring down the tone of the neighborhood".

Start a new drink called the 'Preemptive Strike" dedicated to moving the bar.

Look for suitable locations and tell everbody about them.

Especially tell the bar owners themselves that you would follow them anywhere, and to their faces - they're probably worried that if they move then no one will come, and the expense of moving may be the nail in the coffin if the attendance cannot recoup it quickly.

Makes me shed a tear for those that we have already lost to the horror of gentrification. :(

Miss Kitty
11-19-2005, 07:49 AM
insert popcorn eating smilie here

Beach Runner
11-19-2005, 07:49 AM
Thank goodness for this news. I was on the way and after stopping at Frank's C & C for heavy chain and locks....I was proceeding to meet gttbm, phd., the Funn's, et. al. on the top of B & A's, where we would be chaining ourselves to the bar. No velvet allowed (sorry BR...laugh with me on this one!!!) Don't mess with Miss Kitty's favorite catbox!!!!!
I'd definitely be into civil disobedience along with the rest of you if B&A were to be forced out.

SS, how about a GT sweatshirt and AG's?

gotothebeachmom
11-19-2005, 07:57 AM
I'd definitely be into civil disobedience along with the rest of you if B&A were to be forced out.

SS, how about a GT sweatshirt and AG's?


BR,
That sounds like a great plan to me. I like the GT sweatshirt, I may wear my tacky ol' comfy Levis though. That OK?

Miss Kitty
11-19-2005, 08:03 AM
I'd definitely be into civil disobedience along with the rest of you if B&A were to be forced out.

SS, how about a GT sweatshirt and AG's?

Awesome BR....I want you on my side!!!! I'd be in elastic waist sweatpants myself. Maybe a shirt that says....HELL NO WE WON'T GO I'D LIKE A PLANTER'S PUNCH PLEASE!!!!

Smiling JOe
11-19-2005, 08:09 AM
Where else, other than Bud and Alley's, can you find a bunch of girls tied to the bar? sounds like my kind of place. :funn:

gotothebeachmom
11-19-2005, 08:14 AM
Awesome BR....I want you on my side!!!! I'd be in elastic waist sweatpants myself. Maybe a shirt that says....HELL NO WE WON'T GO I'D LIKE A PLANTER'S PUNCH PLEASE!!!!

Maybe we could get our "friends" we met that night that wanted to dance with us to come with us. We could chain ourselves to her!:floor:

May I have another Miller Lite please?

Miss Kitty
11-19-2005, 08:16 AM
Maybe we could get our "friends" we met that night that wanted to dance with us to come with us. We could chain ourselves to her!:floor:

May I have another Miller Lite please?

That would sure make for a nice comfy pillow for me, but watch out if you get chained to the gigilo (?) it might get HARD!

gotothebeachmom
11-19-2005, 08:36 AM
That would sure make for a nice comfy pillow for me, but watch out if you get chained to the gigilo (?) it might get HARD!

EWWWWWWW! :puke:

Miss Kitty
11-19-2005, 08:37 AM
EWWWWWWW! :puke:

GOTCHA'!!!!!

Beach Runner
11-19-2005, 10:54 AM
BR,
That sounds like a great plan to me. I like the GT sweatshirt, I may wear my tacky ol' comfy Levis though. That OK?
No prob.

Gosh, we should all wear our Bud & Alley's T-shirts!

Dave Rauschkolb
11-20-2005, 04:42 PM
Ok, Ok don't drag out the chains just yet girls although I have to agree with SMJoe chained girls on the deck sounds interesting. There really is no limit to what I have seen up there after all these years.

Anyway, straight from the horses mouth. I am not loosing my lease at Bud & Alley's. In May I signed a lease for 2006. Robert Davis spoke with me and said they are going to develop the south side of the road later than the north side of the road. They just presented me with another lease renewal to go to the end of 2007 and I firmly expect with the length of time it will take to build the new downtown I could be in the present building through 2008 or more.

The future plan for us provides for a new building on the beach for Bud & Alley's roofdeck with a location across the street for the main restaurant. They would build me the new building first on the beach and we would move into it so there would be no missed sunsets.

I am very optimistic about Seaside's intentions for my future with Bud & Alley's. Currently they have been reluctant to give me multiple year leases because they want to be flexible with their timetable for the downtown build out. So keep your chains in the garage for now. Please pass the word, I can't seem to stop this rumor no matter how many people I talk to. Thanks to all of you for your support and good words about B&A's.

Dave

CastlesOfSand
11-20-2005, 05:09 PM
That would sure make for a nice comfy pillow for me, but watch out if you get chained to the gigilo (?) it might get HARD!

What are you talking about!!!!!!! :shock:

kurt
11-20-2005, 05:12 PM
Thanks Dave. :clap_1:

gotothebeachmom
11-20-2005, 05:36 PM
Ok, Ok don't drag out the chains just yet girls although I have to agree with SMJoe chained girls on the deck sounds interesting. There really is no limit to what I have seen up there after all these years.

Anyway, straight from the horses mouth. I am not loosing my lease at Bud & Alley's. In May I signed a lease for 2006. Robert Davis spoke with me and said they are going to develop the south side of the road later than the north side of the road. They just presented me with another lease renewal to go to the end of 2007 and I firmly expect with the length of time it will take to build the new downtown I could be in the present building through 2008 or more.

The future plan for us provides for a new building on the beach for Bud & Alley's roofdeck with a location across the street for the main restaurant. They would build me the new building first on the beach and we would move into it so there would be no missed sunsets.

I am very optimistic about Seaside's intentions for my future with Bud & Alley's. Currently they have been reluctant to give me multiple year leases because they want to be flexible with their timetable for the downtown build out. So keep your chains in the garage for now. Please pass the word, I can't seem to stop this rumor no matter how many people I talk to. Thanks to all of you for your support and good words about B&A's.

Dave

Whew!!!!! Thanks for the good news!!!! One more thing to be thankful for.:clap_1:

Miss Kitty
11-20-2005, 07:17 PM
Oh Dave...I thank you and more importantly, Miss Kitty thanks you! That sounds workable to us. As long as y'all are happy with the arrangement, those of us that LOVE being on TOP of B & A's will not chain ourselves to the bar unless asked to!!!! Does sound kinda' FUNN though!!!

Miss Kitty
11-20-2005, 07:21 PM
What are you talking about!!!!!!! :shock:

Our "friends" at the bar...gttbm and I had the "pleasure" of meeting up with a very drunk woman (large chest...nice pillow) and her male friend (kept man...might get HARD) one night at the Tarpon Club. gttbm tried very hard not to make eye contact, but I will talk to anyone!!! The male friend took a liking to gttbm!!!

As Mr. Dave says...he's seen everything up there! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Beach Runner
11-20-2005, 07:23 PM
Whew!!!!! Thanks for the good news!!!! One more thing to be thankful for.:clap_1:
Yes, David, I adore Bud & Alley's. It's quintessential Seaside! BUD & ALLEY'S FOREVER!!!!!

aquaticbiology
11-21-2005, 06:04 AM
good - one less thing to be worried about - did you know there is nobody overseeing components used in seawall/retaining wall structure? - you could put radioactive feces in the fill, and once it's covered (with the proper colored sand) its in there regardless - talking to walton county government is like talking to someone in another country - who speaks a different language that you've never even heard of or could find a book on - amazing!

i still say we should have a sit in to demonstrate our support of B&A's - 2.25 cent drink special that ends as soon as anybody gets up!

Miss Kitty
11-21-2005, 07:52 AM
good - one less thing to be worried about - did you know there is nobody overseeing components used in seawall/retaining wall structure? - you could put radioactive feces in the fill, and once it's covered (with the proper colored sand) its in there regardless - talking to walton county government is like talking to someone in another country - who speaks a different language that you've never even heard of or could find a book on - amazing!

i still say we should have a sit in to demonstrate our support of B&A's - 2.25 cent drink special that ends as soon as anybody gets up!

I know some people that would still need to dragged out...because ..."I've been chained and overserved and I can't get up"!

bsullie
11-21-2005, 08:12 AM
Whew!!!!! Thanks for the good news!!!! One more thing to be thankful for.:clap_1:
Thanks for putting EVERYONE's mind at ease Dave. Best news of the holiday season and a relief to put the rumors to rest! B&A's forever!! :clap_1:

peapod1980
11-21-2005, 08:58 AM
Please pass the word, I can't seem to stop this rumor no matter how many people I talk to. Thanks to all of you for your support and good words about B&A's.

Dave
:clap_1: Hooray! See you next month, then!

Kimmifunn
11-21-2005, 11:15 AM
Ok, Ok don't drag out the chains just yet girls although I have to agree with SMJoe chained girls on the deck sounds interesting. There really is no limit to what I have seen up there after all these years.

Anyway, straight from the horses mouth. I am not loosing my lease at Bud & Alley's. In May I signed a lease for 2006. Robert Davis spoke with me and said they are going to develop the south side of the road later than the north side of the road. They just presented me with another lease renewal to go to the end of 2007 and I firmly expect with the length of time it will take to build the new downtown I could be in the present building through 2008 or more.

The future plan for us provides for a new building on the beach for Bud & Alley's roofdeck with a location across the street for the main restaurant. They would build me the new building first on the beach and we would move into it so there would be no missed sunsets.

I am very optimistic about Seaside's intentions for my future with Bud & Alley's. Currently they have been reluctant to give me multiple year leases because they want to be flexible with their timetable for the downtown build out. So keep your chains in the garage for now. Please pass the word, I can't seem to stop this rumor no matter how many people I talk to. Thanks to all of you for your support and good words about B&A's.

Dave

Thank god. I don't think being my personal assistant is Mo's first choice when it comes to a new job.

We'll be there new years. Don't worry...I'm sure our crew will pay the mortgage on the building again. For the 7th year running. :clap_1:

newyorker
11-21-2005, 09:54 PM
well, this is all good news after all! Like many of you, Bud and Alleys is an integral part of our trip to Sowal. (In fact, my teenager and college son refuse to go anywhere else the Friday before we leave--its a tradition to sit out on the gazebo and eat crab claws, among many other treats.)
I'm quite willing to join any group chaining itself to the bar to keep it from going down....pass me a glass of their really good chardonay.