Starbucks closing in Rosemary?

[RB]

There is an article on the USA Today's website listing the 600 stores that Starbucks is planning on closing to eliminate unprofitable locations. The store in Rosemary Beach is on the list. It seems everytime i want coffee there is a line all the way out the door!!!!! WOW
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2008-07-17-starbucks-closings_N.htm

[jdarg]

Yup. Also Watercolor. Sorry to see all these nice people out of a job.

[InletBchDweller]

Wild Olives is going to be super crazy now! :yikes: I have NEVER been in Starbucks in Rosemary where there was not 3 or more people in line!

[peapod1980]

Yup. Also Watercolor. Sorry to see all these nice people out of a job.
I'm sorry, too, but I'll take a certain delight in the look on Mr. Pod's face when I tell him. He's such a Starbucks sheep. :roll:
P.S. I only see the Rosemary Beach and Watercolor stores listed, Kurt. Is the Grayton one also closing?

[TooFarTampa]

I agree that locally owned is a great thing but ... if these three Starbucks are unprofitable :shock:, it appears there must be a problem with unreasonably high commercial rents along 30-A. What, logically, are the businesses that can succeed in such an environment? What will go into those spaces and thrive?

[kurt]

Percy, that's what I heard today but it was from someone who owns a coffee shop, not official from SB. This person also told me the Rosemary location may become a locally-owned coffee house.

[Sparky]

Rosemary location to become a locally-owned coffee shop? I hope so. Still, the Starbucks will be missed. My family spent a lot of quality time there this summer during our stay. Bummer!

[tistheseason]

I agree that locally owned is a great thing but ... if these three Starbucks are unprofitable :shock:, it appears there must be a problem with unreasonably high commercial rents along 30-A. What, logically, are the businesses that can succeed in such an environment? What will go into those spaces and thrive?

I agree. The high rents would be hard for a locally owned business to handle -- with the seasonality to the revenue. Hopefully, the "success" of the SB will encourage someone to risk it.

[peapod1980]

Percy, that's what I heard today but it was from someone who owns a coffee shop, not official from SB. This person also told me the Rosemary location may become a locally-owned coffee house.
Hmmmmmm...a Hibiscus in Rosemary, maybe? Suhweet!

[DCFinSCB]

Two words: Fonville Press.

Alys Beach has the best espresso machine and breakfast biscuits this side of 30-A. In fact, I have now talked myself into a Mocha and sausage, egg, and cheese biscuit from there this morning.

See you there!:wave:

[thisnthat]

Here is the list of closing stores.

http://www.starbucks.com/aboutus/USStoreClosureInfo.pdf

[beach ho]

The Starbucks at Grayton is owned and operated by Sandestin, it is not closing that I know of.

[Gypsea]

Not good for us. The only way I can get Cap'nCrazy to go for a long walk is because he will walk for that Starbucks reward and we always have to wait in a long, long line. Makes no sense! :bang:

[Tootsie]

sorry to hear about this. it was a nice place to work for many. and also a nice place to meet friends or grab a coffee or organic chocolate milk for the kiddo. amavida gets most of my business, but will miss these stores for many reasons.

[Gypsea]

sorry to hear about this. it was a nice place to work for many. and also a nice place to meet friends or grab a coffee or organic chocolate milk for the kiddo. amavida gets most of my business, but will miss these stores for many reasons.


it was also a great place to meet new friends and you couldn't beat the rocking chairs! :(

[ShallowsNole]

Well, heck! My niece works summers at the Rosemary Starbucks and during the school year at the Starbucks at Ocala Rd & W. Tennessee in Tallahassee, and they are BOTH on the list. Maybe I need to call her...

[Smiling JOe]

As TFT says, it is all about rent and payroll, not the number of people in line. I bet Starbucks gets a bump in stock price from the announcement.

[Smiling JOe]

As TFT says, it is all about rent and payroll, not the number of people in line. I bet Starbucks gets a bump in stock price from the announcement.

[Smiling JOe]

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[cpete]

The wife will be a little sad about this. She can't function without a NFWCM in the morning. Are they still open?

So how about a recommendation on local joints. I'm sure there are some great ones.

:D:D

[singinchicken]

The wife will be a little sad about this. She can't function without a NFWCM in the morning.

No Foam Whole Milk Caramel Machiado?

[cpete]

Non Fat White Chocolate Moca...

:lolabove::lolabove:

[hnooe]

I think it will only help with 30A's uniqueness to have a local coffee company move into these spaces! Nothing against Starbuck's mind you.

[hnooe]

The wife will be a little sad about this. She can't function without a NFWCM in the morning. Are they still open?

So how about a recommendation on local joints. I'm sure there are some great ones.

:D:D

I always go into the Rosemary Starbuck's and order me a GWM to go! No, swgb it is a Grande White Mocha!!!!:D

[singinchicken]

Non Fat White Chocolate Moca...

:lolabove::lolabove:

Better than a GDMF! That one always makes me laugh. Care to hazzard a guess?

[hnooe]

Better than a GDMF! That one always makes me laugh. Care to hazzard a guess?

Grande Diet Mocha Frappachino?

[jdarg]

The other night at Stinky Cheese Man, Watercourse Way showed me her blended Starbucks drink - "OMB" was written on the side of the cup. Of course we laughed.:wave:

(orange mango banana)

[singinchicken]

Grande Diet Mocha Frappachino?

Close...Grande Decaf Mocha Frappuchino!

[Smiling JOe]

I doubt that we will see other local coffee shops be able to make a successful run in those high rent locations if Starbucks cannot do it using massive economies of scale and negotiating power. It could happen, but on paper, it doesn't make logical sense.

I highly recommend Amavida Coffee in Seaside and Seagrove. They have their own Coffee Bean Roaster on staff, making some excellent coffee. PJ's also has some good coffee in Blue Mtn Beach, but it feels more corporate in atmosphere.

[TooFarTampa]

I doubt that we will see other local coffee shops be able to make a successful run in those high rent locations if Starbucks cannot do it using massive economies of scale and negotiating power. It could happen, but on paper, it doesn't make logical sense.

I highly recommend Amavida Coffee in Seaside and Seagrove. They have their own Coffee Bean Roaster on staff, making some excellent coffee. PJ's also has some good coffee in Blue Mtn Beach, but it feels more corporate in atmosphere.

The three Tampa locations that are closing are all locations that didn't make any sense in the first place. You would think that a resort area like 30-A would be Starbucks heaven, so the fact that it was "underperforming" even with all the lines seems very strange. Perhaps an independent could swoop in, purchase the equipment at a good price, and do well not having to send the profits to corporate? I hope if someone does swoop in they draw up a great business plan first.

The other thought I had was, what if the corporate folks don't understand the nature of 30-A, and saw low numbers during the winter and decided to close it down? You can kind of see how that might happen.

[tistheseason]

Might the rents come down a little bit? At some points the rents can't be sooo high that businesses can't make it. I had heard in the original plan that spot was targeted to be a coffee shop -- and it's clearly desired by the poeople. But it will be hard for someone without deep pockets to manage the revenue swings (season/off season). If Starbucks can't make it. . . . .can anyone?

[Smiling JOe]

Rents around here are as high as San Fransisco, but without the population numbers from which to draw. Look at the number of empty commercial places around here and you will quickly see that rents are too high for most small businesses to give it a whirl. WaterColor Crossing stores remained empty for a long time. With the purchase costs and high price for insurance, rents will remain somewhat high for most commercial units. The Rosemary and WaterColor SB locations are pretty high visibility with somewhat captured audiences, and I would think that both developments will make the rents whatever they need to be in order to get the right business move in. These developments are more unique than many commercial spots, because they may be able to write off some of the costs as community benefits, not trying to make profit on those rents, but offering services and benefits for the owners and guests. The developments will still likely get part of net or gross proceeds. No buyer wants to drive through a major development like RB or WC and see empty, closed stores. They want it to be a happening spot.

[sowalgayboi]

It's gotta be the rent, not a single PC/PCB location is closing and some of those go all day without someone coming in. Oh well, that leaves us with Miss Lucille's, My Daddy's Cheescake, Hibiscus, Amavida 2 locations, Fonville press, and Wild Olives. All local and all better than starbucks anyway.

[thisnthat]

It's gotta be the rent, not a single PC/PCB location is closing and some of those go all day without someone coming in. Oh well, that leaves us with Miss Lucille's, My Daddy's Cheescake, Hibiscus, Amavida 2 locations, Fonville press, and Wild Olives. All local and all better than starbucks anyway.

Don't forget The Coffee House in Watercolor Crossings as well.

[bent]

Don't forget The Coffee House in Watercolor Crossings as well.

I heard they have a decent sandwich also, I hope they survive there.

Anyone know what the rent is in WaterColor Crossing?

[organicmama]

I heard they have a decent sandwich also, I hope they survive there.

Anyone know what the rent is in WaterColor Crossing?

I had heard last week that they were closing. Is this true?

[singinchicken]

yes...both this one and Rosemary Beach

[bsmart]

The Starbucks at Rosemary Beach as well as the one in Seagrove are on the list of 616 Starbucks locations to close by early 2009. See this article from cnn.com which also includes an interactive map: http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/18/news/companies/starbucks_closures/index.htm?cnn=yes

[flspearit]

corporate coffee sucks! sorry for those that will lose their jobs...but the walmart of coffee shops (STARSUCKS) doesn't belong here...good riddance...trendy and tasteless, IMO:D

[jdarg]

Let us remember that Starbucks has provided jobs and benefits to our friends and neighbors. More business closings in SoWal is not a good thing, no matter what you think of the business.

[thisnthat]

I will miss sitting out in those big chairs on those warm winter nights at Watercolor. :cry:

[organicmama]

I had heard last week that they were closing. Is this true?

I'm quoting myself because I meant the little coffee shop at Watercolor Crossing. I heard it wasn't going to make it, either.

[organicmama]

The Starbucks at Rosemary Beach as well as the one in Seagrove are on the list of 616 Starbucks locations to close by early 2009. See this article from cnn.com which also includes an interactive map: http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/18/news/companies/starbucks_closures/index.htm?cnn=yes

I saw a bunch in GA, but none in Athens. I wish they'd close the one they set up on Broad St. next to all the other independents.

[thisnthat]

I'm quoting myself because I meant the little coffee shop at Watercolor Crossing. I heard it wasn't going to make it, either.

I'm not sure about them. They have cut way back on their hours.

[beachyteachy]

I like Starbucks but I love Amavida as well...especially when Little Amavida educates me on the merits of fair trade coffee! On the mornings I went there, she would come in the classroom, check out my coffee cup and tell her friends, "Yeah...she was at Amavida this morning." Too cute.

[Coffee House]

We agree a local company may have difficulty moving into these locations and make it work with the rents they are asking. We are not closing. We simply found that the majority of our business is morning through lunchtime and evenings aren't worth staying open for. If you are going to be a displaced "Bucks" Customer, please come try The Coffee House. We are located at Watercolor Crossing (next to publix) and have all your favorite coffee and espresso beverages. David goes in every morning and bakes our muffins, scones, cookies, biscuits, and croissants. Our breakfast sandwiches are fantastic and we also have a full line of made to order deli sandwiches and paninis made with Boars Head meats. Our coffee and espresso comes direct from Kaldi's Coffee Roasting Company in St. Louis and we are sure you'll love it!

[Autumn Moon]

breakfast sandwiches???...:wub:
I didn't know...

we'll be by soon!

[DavidD]

I can say from experience that you have to sell a LOT of cups of coffee to make a coffee shop work. All of the local Starbucks seemed to always have customers, but they also had corporate funding (maybe not so good funding). We should do our best to patronize all the locally owned businesses we can. Its not easy to survive in our paradise, but supporting big, national corporate businesses sends most of our money away (except, of course, money earned by the hard working employees). That said, my wife and kids will miss the WaterColor Starbucks too.

[jim45]

http://www.waltonsun.com/news/starbucks_1859___article.html/watercolor_beach.html


Starbucks at Rosemary Beach and Watercolor scheduled to close after Labor Day


Taking a morning walk down to the local Starbucks will no longer be an option for residents of Rosemary Beach and Watercolor. The two Starbucks locations are scheduled to close as part of the nationwide downsizing of 600 stores by the company.
They are scheduled to close some time after Labor Day, although no firm date is set, according to Quinn Petterson, an employee at the Watercolor location.
"I'm disappointed," said Petterson, who has worked at the location for nine months.
"It (Starbucks) has changed my life. I moved here not knowing anyone but after working here, now I know my community."
Customers at the Watercolor location had mixed feelings about the decision.
"They're going to close this one down? Will it be before the end of our vacation," asked customer Becky Iliya.
Becky and Charlie Iliya admitted they went to the coffee shop every morning of their vacation, however they were not surprised the location was closing.
"It's hard to make a dollar here with all of the fees," said Becky.
"A locally owned coffee shop would have a better feel than the commercial Starbucks setting," Charlie said. "There's just too many of them," he continued. "They did it to themselves."
Becky also said they expanded too quickly but felt they were a good employer.
The Iliyas are visiting from Dallas "where a Starbucks is on every corner," they said.
Another customer, Joel Drummond, was surprised to learn the store would be shut down. "Are they really going to close this one down," he asked.
"We're from Jackson (Mississippi) and they are closing two or three of them there, too. There are four now and they just got them a couple of years ago," Drummond said.
While the Rosemary Beach and Watercolor branches face closure, the Grayton Beach location is anticipating a boost in business.
Manager Johnny Shine said it will "absolutely" increase business once the other locations are closed. "This store has dropped in revenue since they (Rosemary Beach and Watercolor branches) opened."
The Starbucks in Grayton Beach will not be affected by the nationwide closures since it is licensed and owned by Sandestin, according to Manager Johnny Shine.
Shine was not sure if Starbucks was offering transfers for employees to other locations but said if they came to his store he would put as many of them to work as possible.

[Autumn Moon]

hmmmm, our son (Sr. @ S. Walton) works at the Rosemary store. (loves it by the way) He's helped out at Watercolor and Pier Park, too. Starbucks told him he could stay with the co. but would probably go to either Destin or Panama City. With the price of gas, he wasn't thrilled with that idea. One of the local Rosemary cafe's offered him a job so he needs to make a decision.
At any rate, it seems Starbucks is offering to keep any employees that want to stay and are willing to travel.
We're explaining to Mike that WHEN he goes away to college :wave: there will probably be a Starbucks close by and would welcome his experience. He likes the campus at Northwest University but you can't surf on Lake Michigan so why would he leave?:blink:
if I knew then what I know now...and could convince him... ;-)

[DavidD]

From what I've read, Starbucks is a great employer. As a designer I've envied the creative freedom they give their staff (and the free coffee to fuel on), they've always put a lot of attention on their branding. I've heard they're good to about all of their employees, not to mention working on the fair-trade issues. I still prefer a nice mom and pop operation though, but like that Starbucks made coffee houses mainstream. I will still go to one, if its the only place to get my fix. I wonder if the Grayton Starbucks will expand somehow? That is the world's smallest Starbucks I think

[STL Don]

We agree a local company may have difficulty moving into these locations and make it work with the rents they are asking. We are not closing. We simply found that the majority of our business is morning through lunchtime and evenings aren't worth staying open for. If you are going to be a displaced "Bucks" Customer, please come try The Coffee House. We are located at Watercolor Crossing (next to publix) and have all your favorite coffee and espresso beverages. David goes in every morning and bakes our muffins, scones, cookies, biscuits, and croissants. Our breakfast sandwiches are fantastic and we also have a full line of made to order deli sandwiches and paninis made with Boars Head meats. Our coffee and espresso comes direct from Kaldi's Coffee Roasting Company in St. Louis and we are sure you'll love it!

I was in Kaldi's this morning--really good product.

[jamnolfin]

It's gotta be the rent, not a single PC/PCB location is closing and some of those go all day without someone coming in. Oh well, that leaves us with Miss Lucille's, My Daddy's Cheescake, Hibiscus, Amavida 2 locations, Fonville press, and Wild Olives. All local and all better than starbucks anyway.


The one in Target and the one on the boardwalk at Pier park kick butt. They have one in the condo thats ran by the Wyndham, I have no idea how that one does. Which Starbucks in PCB do you speak of? I hate to see the one gone at Rosemarys because thats right by my house.

[sowalgayboi]

The one in Target and the one on the boardwalk at Pier park kick butt. They have one in the condo thats ran by the Wyndham, I have no idea how that one does. Which Starbucks in PCB do you speak of? I hate to see the one gone at Rosemarys because thats right by my house.

I'm not sure what you're saying, I was referring to all of the PC/PCB locations.

[jamnolfin]

I'm not sure what you're saying, I was referring to all of the PC/PCB locations.

Im not sure what you are saying, which one doesnt have any business? The only one i know of in PC is by the mall, it should be doing good because of location even though they should have a drive thru there. Please tell me which one doesnt do good because Im curious. Like I said the Pier Park one is booming, one of the busiest in NW Florida i was told. I also read a article that said the 5 guys there was the busiest in America, even more than the original in DC.

[cpete]

I went to the one in Grayton today at 8:30 and it was closed. Is the Rosemary one still open? I ended up waiting in line at the one in Watercolor for 30 minutes. No lie.

:D:D

[30A Skunkape]

wait, wait, wait. Do I sense lament regarding the demise of McCoffee? Ehhh-good riddance. Come spring new coffee shops will arise in these locations to satisfy your palates. Until then, do yourself a favor and patronize CC's, PJ's or Amavida...heck, the 393 @ 98 Chevron that sells Community sells a better cup of coffee than that mediocre Seattle crap. Goodbye Starbucks-on behalf of those too shy to say it-we will not miss you:wave:

[John R]

...Starbucks... My family spent a lot of quality time there this summer during our stay.

not two things i would expect to be in the same posting. as flspirit said 'bummed for those who will lose jobs' but not bummed to see $tarbucks leaving 30A. :wave: <-- bye bye smiley. Support locally owned businesses.

[Miss Kitty]

Mr. Kitty will just have to plug in the coffee pot. Although, he and Molly would take a walk over every morning together. The best was when Ceruleans sold coffee in the morning....they always had a dog biscuit for our girl.

I am curious how the Uptown Grayton location will handle the extra parking traffic for the addicted?

[30A Skunkape]

Mr. Kitty will just have to plug in the coffee pot. Although, he and Molly would take a walk over every morning together. The best was when Ceruleans sold coffee in the morning....they always had a dog biscuit for our girl.

I am curious how the Uptown Grayton location will handle the extra parking traffic for the addicted?

The shoulder of County HWY 30-A is a prime parking spot:blink:

[jdarg]

Mr. Kitty will just have to plug in the coffee pot. Although, he and Molly would take a walk over every morning together. The best was when Ceruleans sold coffee in the morning....they always had a dog biscuit for our girl.

I am curious how the Uptown Grayton location will handle the extra parking traffic for the addicted?


On Saturday mornings, when tourists are getting their coffee for the road, they park in the Banktrust drive through lanes. IN THE ATM LANE TOO. One lady actually seemed put off that I asked her to move- I was trying to go through the ATM drive through!!:bang:

[peapod1980]

We agree a local company may have difficulty moving into these locations and make it work with the rents they are asking. We are not closing. We simply found that the majority of our business is morning through lunchtime and evenings aren't worth staying open for. If you are going to be a displaced "Bucks" Customer, please come try The Coffee House. We are located at Watercolor Crossing (next to publix) and have all your favorite coffee and espresso beverages. David goes in every morning and bakes our muffins, scones, cookies, biscuits, and croissants. Our breakfast sandwiches are fantastic and we also have a full line of made to order deli sandwiches and paninis made with Boars Head meats. Our coffee and espresso comes direct from Kaldi's Coffee Roasting Company in St. Louis and we are sure you'll love it!
Thanks for the info, Coffee House. And thank you for using Kaldi's! ;-)

[amavida]

At Amavida, we are sorry for the employees for losing their jobs.

As a retailer in the community, we understand the issue of high rents and seasonal shifts in business.

We import Fair Trade/Organic coffees directly from our farmers around the world and roast them here in our local community. We are also a reseller/distributor of coffee house products. Because of this business model, we can operate on a similar par with national chains.

With all of this said, it is challenging for independents and national chains alike. On 30-A, we have a high density of coffee houses relative to the population and one has to sell a large volume of coffee house products to make end meet.

Coffee houses are not an exception in our community. Many of our other businesses struggle as well. With that in mind, I believe it is important and necessary for our community to recognize the importance of buying from an independent. It is important to keep our community healthy and unique.

For starters, independents buy local services and the money stays in the community. Legal services; accounting services; graphic art services; signage; insurance services; copier services; websites; cabinet makers; food products; among many are products and services that independents spend their money on locally.

In addition, independents tend to buy from other independents because they understand and share the same issues and values. Independents also serve on our schools boards, coach our athletic teams, and fight for our environmental rights, and are some of the best supporters for charity events in the community. Hence they are integral and important to great communities. Independents live in the community and have a "natural-vested" interest in the community.

We have wonderful independents in our community and it would be very sad if we lost our unique character. Every time we travel to Pier Park to buy a gift or travel to Grand Boulevard to eat at a national chain, we weaken the community a little bit more.

With all of this said, rents are high for independents, but we also need the community to recognize how important it is to purchase locally. As individuals we need to weight the our purchaing choices individually for ourselves and the future of our community.

Recommended Readings and Thinkers:

Business Alliance for Local Living
http://www.livingeconomies.org/ (http://www.livingeconomies.org/)

American Independent Business Alliance
http://www.amiba.net/

The Small-Mart Revolution by Michael Schuman

[thisnthat]

[/quote] On Saturday mornings, when tourists are getting their coffee for the road, they park in the Banktrust drive through lanes. IN THE ATM LANE TOO. One lady actually seemed put off that I asked her to move- I was trying to go through the ATM drive through!!:bang:

Those pesky tourists are at it again!

[sowalgayboi]

Im not sure what you are saying, which one doesnt have any business? The only one i know of in PC is by the mall, it should be doing good because of location even though they should have a drive thru there. Please tell me which one doesnt do good because Im curious. Like I said the Pier Park one is booming, one of the busiest in NW Florida i was told. I also read a article that said the 5 guys there was the busiest in America, even more than the original in DC.

I wasn't saying that they didn't have any business, it just seemed odd that PC/PCB have so many and not one was considered for closure. Pier Park has 3 :eek: and I can guarantee you that once the season is over their sales will take a dive. I've never encountered a snowbird in a Starbucks or any coffee house for that matter. I guess it's just a matter of rents or a short sighted cost saving measure on Starbucks part.

[jamnolfin]

I wasn't saying that they didn't have any business, it just seemed odd that PC/PCB have so many and not one was considered for closure. Pier Park has 3 :eek: and I can guarantee you that once the season is over their sales will take a dive. I've never encountered a snowbird in a Starbucks or any coffee house for that matter. I guess it's just a matter of rents or a short sighted cost saving measure on Starbucks part.


Theres 2 in Pier Park, 1 on the boardwalk and the one in target. Even though I live in Inlet beach, I own a condo at Calypso across from pier Park. I pretty much live in the Destin to Hathaway bridge area, as I use one area as much as the next. People in PCB hate to be lumped with Panama City, most of them wont go over there unless they absolutely have to.

[sowalgayboi]

Theres 2 in Pier Park, 1 on the boardwalk and the one in target. Even though I live in Inlet beach, I own a condo at Calypso across from pier Park. I pretty much live in the Destin to Hathaway bridge area, as I use one area as much as the next. People in PCB hate to be lumped with Panama City, most of them wont go over there unless they absolutely have to.

Oh I know, I lived in PC/PCB for 10 years and that bridge is like the Alps. :roll:

[scooterbug44]

Mom and I were discussing the nationwide closures of Starbucks and I told her it was because they built too many, too close together ................. then pointed out that just during our 20 minute drive from dinner to the house we would pass 4 or 5 Starbucks as well as many independent coffee houses.

I'd much rather have a Miss Lucille's, Amavida, or Coffee House than a Starbucks anyway! :wave:

[organicmama]

Mom and I were discussing the nationwide closures of Starbucks and I told her it was because they built too many, too close together ................. then pointed out that just during our 20 minute drive from dinner to the house we would pass 4 or 5 Starbucks as well as many independent coffee houses.

I'd much rather have a Miss Lucille's, Amavida, or Coffee House than a Starbucks anyway! :wave:

ITA, they also put them RIGHT next to indie's, which always frustrates the heck outta me. When Cerulean's was open, I'd head there rather than go to Starbucks at Watercolor

The only place Starbucks are needed is driving through AL, where I can never seem to find a coffee shop & the Krispy Kreme in Dothan has crappy coffee.:biggrin:

[JUL]

That stinks! I really like the sitting on their comfy chairs on the sidewalk and drinking my venti latte. Do you think they will leave the comfy chairs? I liked the coffee Beach Java served. It is also gone.

[JUL]

I will have to give the coffee at Fonville Press a try. I like the wine they serve. I have always wanted to try Miss Lucilles....but I don't usually get down that way in the am because I always stay on the Rosemary end. What about the Starbucks in the Target at Pier Park? I'm guessing the Target Starbucks are safe.

[sowalgayboi]

I will have to give the coffee at Fonville Press a try. I like the wine they serve. I have always wanted to try Miss Lucilles....but I don't usually get down that way in the am because I always stay on the Rosemary end. What about the Starbucks in the Target at Pier Park? I'm guessing the Target Starbucks are safe.

Both of the ones that are in Pier Park are safe.

You can also try http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=26165

[Gypsea]

That stinks! I really like the sitting on their comfy chairs on the sidewalk and drinking my venti latte. Do you think they will leave the comfy chairs? I liked the coffee Beach Java served. It is also gone.

The chairs were there before Starbucks so they should stay. I :wub: having a tea while sitting in those rockers. :wave:

[Miss Kitty]

The chairs were there before Starbucks so they should stay. I :wub: having a tea while sitting in those rockers. :wave:


where are you at this moment? i cannot keep up! ;-) :funn:

[tsutcli]

That stinks! I really like the sitting on their comfy chairs on the sidewalk and drinking my venti latte. Do you think they will leave the comfy chairs? I liked the coffee Beach Java served. It is also gone.
The old Java is now AMavidas in Seagrove. Excellant coffe and people and only uses Fair Trade beans.

[Amy@Avalon]

Surely Rosemary Beach will see the need for a coffee shop on property and make it attractive for a new (local) business to come in. I like to use coffee houses as a meeting place to chat with potential clients and this is a good location for my purposes. Free WiFi would be nice in the future! Starbucks was behind the curve in this respect.