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aleonard
06-04-2008, 03:14 PM
'Water-Running' Car Gets 100 Miles To The Ounce, Inventor Says


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- A Florida man has created a car he claims runs on tap water. Brown said he shut his fuel injection system down and created the system that can use any type of water with a small amount of gas. He said the car is getting just fuel vapor."When you separate the water from the oxygen from the hydrogen, it cooks and it cooks down to a brown," Brown said. "We're not having any waste product off of it. Everything is consumed and burned."Local 6 showed video of Brown filling up his vehicle with water and then driving around.Brown said any profit he makes from his invention will go toward helping missionaries around the world."I've just been asking for a way, for the Lord to show me to raise money rapidly and I started to working on this idea," Brown said.Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

http://www.local6.com/news/16488151/detail.html

greenroomsurfer
06-05-2008, 10:59 AM
We people from J-ville are good like that.

Smiling JOe
06-05-2008, 11:08 AM
He said the car is getting just fuel vapor."When you separate the water from the oxygen from the hydrogen, it cooks and it cooks down to a brown," Brown said.

I'm no scientist, but this part seems to be hog-wash.

That said, I've read that the big hurdle of running engines off of water is the filter which would be needed to separate the H from the O. They have a filter, but they are not able to produce it at a price which would work. With time, and nano-technology increases, there is no reason why we couldn't fill up our tanks with water. The big problem then is going to be our drinking water. Unless they begin converting sea water to fresh water, this solution of using water to replace oil, will not work. Everyone in Atlanta would still be out of gas from last year's drought.

aleonard
06-05-2008, 12:21 PM
I'm no scientist, but this part seems to be hog-wash.

That said, I've read that the big hurdle of running engines off of water is the filter which would be needed to separate the H from the O. They have a filter, but they are not able to produce it at a price which would work. With time, and nano-technology increases, there is no reason why we couldn't fill up our tanks with water. The big problem then is going to be our drinking water. Unless they begin converting sea water to fresh water, this solution of using water to replace oil, will not work. Everyone in Atlanta would still be out of gas from last year's drought.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.........saltwater cars.......I likey the idea.

Thanks for chiming in on this.......my bs meter went off when I saw this but I'm no rocket scientist:biggrin:

aleonard
06-05-2008, 12:22 PM
We people from J-ville are good like that.

My fellas from J-ville as well..so, I'll agree:biggrin:

greenroomsurfer
06-05-2008, 12:25 PM
Rat Town in the House!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's Atlantic Beach for you lurkers!:wave:

sowalgayboi
06-05-2008, 06:37 PM
Sounds pretty sketchy to me. I thought water only broke down into it's elements at around 3000 degrees. I don't think you'd want to be in a car that hit's those kind of temperatures.

MissCritter
06-05-2008, 07:45 PM
Sounds pretty sketchy to me. I thought water only broke down into it's elements at around 3000 degrees. I don't think you'd want to be in a car that hit's those kind of temperatures.


Pretty sure that's interior temp in August after parking all day with your windows closed. ;-)

steele mama
06-05-2008, 09:15 PM
There are two different inventors I read about. One invented an engine that runs on water and one on salt water. What are we waiting for?!?!

sowalgayboi
06-05-2008, 11:56 PM
There are two different inventors I read about. One invented an engine that runs on water and one on salt water. What are we waiting for?!?!

One of the major car companies to purchase and manufacture the technology and use it.

Miss Kitty
06-05-2008, 11:57 PM
One of the major car companies to purchase and manufacture the technology and use it.

GM should have some Hummer plants available soon.

Smiling JOe
06-06-2008, 12:21 AM
Sounds pretty sketchy to me. I thought water only broke down into it's elements at around 3000 degrees. I don't think you'd want to be in a car that hit's those kind of temperatures.From what I understand that is not true. The technology which I've read about doesn't burn the H2, once separated from the O. It uses the electrons to power the engine. The filter separates the H2 from the O, and takes the electrons, then the H2 takes the long way around the filter to rejoin with the O, recreating H20 in the process.

We just need to remember to not get too narrow-focused when creating our alternative fuel engines, so that we don't get blindsided by something like water shortage. We can live without gasoline, but we cannot live without drinking water. We need to reduce our fresh water usage regardless. Too much water is wasted on manicured lawns. We need to start questioning why we do the things we do, and try out some new things.

sowalgayboi
06-06-2008, 01:53 AM
From what I understand that is not true. The technology which I've read about doesn't burn the H2, once separated from the O. It uses the electrons to power the engine. The filter separates the H2 from the O, and takes the electrons, then the H2 takes the long way around the filter to rejoin with the O, recreating H20 in the process.

Now I'm more confused. A filter at the atomic level? Forget moving cars, use that sucker for medical treatments. Are you talking about some sort of chemical reaction?

We just need to remember to not get too narrow-focused when creating our alternative fuel engines, so that we don't get blindsided by something like water shortage. We can live without gasoline, but we cannot live without drinking water. We need to reduce our fresh water usage regardless. Too much water is wasted on manicured lawns. We need to start questioning why we do the things we do, and try out some new things.

I totally agree with this.

Smiling JOe
06-06-2008, 10:13 AM
gayboi, I cannot recall exactly what they were using to separate the O from the H2. Whatever they used, the separation came first, and allowed the O to pass through the filter, but not the H2. The H2 had a loop to go around the filter, and then the electrons were grabbed, releasing the H2 to reconnect with the O on the other side. The small filter which they created using nano-technology was not large enough to supply energy for a car, and it cost a few million dollars. Remember, it is the developmental stages, and now they have to figure out a way to produce the filters at the right price point so they would be effective in auto usage. The designers were very pleased with their work and discoveries, but now comes the big challenge. They predicted that it would likely take many scientists and engineers working together in open knowledge format (sharing info), many years to make this technology a reality for us consumers. I think back to my first computer, a 1982 IBM XT. My Blackberry is probably 1/20 the size, and 1,000+ times more techie, costing about 5% of that IBM XT, so maybe we are twenty or so years out, if people actually continue to research this stuff.

If we could have all of our engines work off of water, in order to not compete with humans for water, the systems will need to be a closed loop system so the water is looped through, again and again.

sowalgayboi
06-06-2008, 02:54 PM
gayboi, I cannot recall exactly what they were using to separate the O from the H2. Whatever they used, the separation came first, and allowed the O to pass through the filter, but not the H2. The H2 had a loop to go around the filter, and then the electrons were grabbed, releasing the H2 to reconnect with the O on the other side. The small filter which they created using nano-technology was not large enough to supply energy for a car, and it cost a few million dollars. Remember, it is the developmental stages, and now they have to figure out a way to produce the filters at the right price point so they would be effective in auto usage. The designers were very pleased with their work and discoveries, but now comes the big challenge. They predicted that it would likely take many scientists and engineers working together in open knowledge format (sharing info), many years to make this technology a reality for us consumers. I think back to my first computer, a 1982 IBM XT. My Blackberry is probably 1/20 the size, and 1,000+ times more techie, costing about 5% of that IBM XT, so maybe we are twenty or so years out, if people actually continue to research this stuff.

If we could have all of our engines work off of water, in order to not compete with humans for water, the systems will need to be a closed loop system so the water is looped through, again and again.

Thanks for the explanation, it's becoming clearer now.

I agree with you on the water issue, perhaps if it ran on salt water?

On a side note my first computer was a Tandy that hooked up to a TV instead of a monitor and had a cassette player instead of a disk/hard drive.

BeachSiO2
06-06-2008, 04:26 PM
No fear, good news on the oil front [/sarcasm off]

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/wireStory?id=5010997