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savvytangerine
05-11-2008, 05:56 PM
I am curious to discover what the majority of posters believe - the popular consensus on global warming / climate change.
Thanks for participating in this anonymous poll! :wave:
greenroomsurfer
05-11-2008, 06:07 PM
One thing is for certain, 50% of the people can not make up their mind.
scooterbug44
05-11-2008, 07:01 PM
I don't want to argue the various scientific theories on global warming, but I am VERY sure that the sudden and major changes we constantly inflict on the planet are not beneficial! :wave:
NoHall
05-11-2008, 07:09 PM
Your poll doesn't cover my answer.
I believe that the earth's climate changes naturally. I'm not so niave as to believe that humans have no impact on it, but I don't think we are as powerful as nature's ability to whip itself back into shape with or without us.
I've said it many times: I have absolutely no faith in Mr. Gore's doomsday predictions on global warming when 1) his carbon footprint is big enough for most large families to live on for a century and 2) I can't find a meteorologist who can accurately predict tomorrow's weather, let alone the weather 50 or a hundred years from now.
Thanks again to jodiFL for the following:
I'LL BE JUST FINE, SAYS PLANET.
THE planet Earth has dismissed claims it is in danger from global warming, stressing the worst that could happen is the extinction of the human race.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/images/stories/earth3.jpg 'If you don't mind, I've got some orbiting to do'
The Earth spoke out after a series of books, television programs and environmental campaigns urged people to do everything in their power to 'Save the Planet'.
Earth, 4,000,000,000, said last night: "I'll be absolutely fine, seriously. I might get a bit warmer and a bit wetter, but to be honest, that actually sounds quite nice.
"Try living through an ice age. Pardon my French, but it's absolutely ******* freezing."
The planet, based 93 million miles from the Sun, said it was 'sick and tired' of being drawn into arguments about human behaviour.
"Look, I'm just a planet doing its thing, alright? If you want to live on me, that's your business, but I've got important planet stuff to do, okay?
"Try being in elliptical orbit for five minutes, or balancing your gravitational pull with a medium-sized moon. Let me assure you, it's no picnic."
The planet said environmental campaigners should change their slogan from 'Save the Planet' to something more relevant such as 'Save Your Sorry A$$'.
Earth added: "Okay, so there may come a time when, for a variety of reasons, I am no longer able to support pandas, polar bears, and humans, but you know what? Life goes on.
"Who knows, I might end up being a haven for toads."
Andy A.
05-12-2008, 10:43 AM
Your poll doesn't cover my answer.
I believe that the earth's climate changes naturally. I'm not so niave as to believe that humans have no impact on it, but I don't think we are as powerful as nature's ability to whip itself back into shape with or without us.
I've said it many times: I have absolutely no faith in Mr. Gore's doomsday predictions on global warming when 1) his carbon footprint is big enough for most large families to live on for a century and 2) I can't find a meteorologist who can accurately predict tomorrow's weather, let alone the weather 50 or a hundred years from now.
Thanks again to jodiFL for the following:
NoHall, you are 100% right on, IMO. I didn't participate in the poll because none of the answers fit my opinion and observations. Yours does.
Margarita
05-12-2008, 11:23 AM
Your poll doesn't cover my answer.
I believe that the earth's climate changes naturally. I'm not so niave as to believe that humans have no impact on it, but I don't think we are as powerful as nature's ability to whip itself back into shape with or without us.
I've said it many times: I have absolutely no faith in Mr. Gore's doomsday predictions on global warming when 1) his carbon footprint is big enough for most large families to live on for a century and 2) I can't find a meteorologist who can accurately predict tomorrow's weather, let alone the weather 50 or a hundred years from now.
Thanks again to jodiFL for the following:
I agree 100%. I also saw a segment on tv the other night that because our corn supply is now being used to help us "go green" we are seeing a dramatic rise in world starvation due to a decrease in the food supply and of course higher food prices. The solution to the global warming hysteria created by Mr. Gore has led to a short sighted solution with dire consequences.
NoHall
05-12-2008, 12:35 PM
I just hope that he has at least alarmed us into realizing that there is no excuse for not having fuel-efficient vehicles in this day and age. We should have the technology to get around on compressed robin's farts by now, and I really don't care if it means that the chairman of Exxon will have to sell one of his villas in Italy.
scooterbug44
05-12-2008, 12:40 PM
:rofl:
I don't know about robin's farts, but there are compressed air and hybrid air/fuel vehicles that will fit a family of 4 or 6 and cost less than 25K for the biggest model. I think they have a range of 125 miles or more and then just need more air - can even be filled off a basic household air compressor if the filling station doesn't have the special air.
Per the History Channel, the French inventor has a big contract to sell them in India where car usage is skyrocketing. I also liked that he put the steering wheel in the center of the car to avoid the whole right/left issue.
greenroomsurfer
05-12-2008, 12:55 PM
Alright Scooterbug do ya have a Website? I went to my favorite channel website ( the Discovery Channel) and it's not there.
scooterbug44
05-12-2008, 01:02 PM
US website for car:
http://zeropollutionmotors.us/
Tata Motors, India’s largest automaker, will soon start production of the world’s first commercial compressed air-powered car. It estimates that 6,000 of these cars will be made by the end of the year.
The Air Car, as it is cleverly named, was developed by ex-Formula One engineer Guy Nègre, CEO of Moteur Developpement International. It requires no gasoline at all, using compressed air to power its engine’s pistons.
Hold on to your hats, folks! The CityCat model will reach a top speed of 68mph! However, it will have a driving range of 125 miles on a full tank of air and such a trip is estimated to only cost about $2, making it perfect for city driving. If there isn’t a compressor station nearby, you can also plug the Air Car into an outlet and let its built-in compressor fill it up for you in about 4 hours.
Although it is pretty slow, running the Air Car is very cheap and very green. For those that have no business on the freeway, this car will be a perfect replacement for today’s gas guzzlers.
greenroomsurfer
05-12-2008, 01:38 PM
That has to be the coolest invention ever except fot the surfboard. If we can get that no more strangle hold by terorist, gas companies etc. I want the orange offroad 2 seater. Start investing in aluminum boys and girls.:cool:
scooterbug44
05-12-2008, 01:52 PM
Perfect for around here IMO, especially since I can go for weeks or months w/o needing to put more than one other person in the car or exceed 68 mph. I think they were saying the smaller car was only $7K, so it would be a VERY reasonable road safe beach car for the vacation house.
greenroomsurfer
05-12-2008, 01:58 PM
I want this one8811
BeachSiO2
05-12-2008, 01:59 PM
I am now on the zerocar mailing list. :clap:
NoHall
05-12-2008, 06:05 PM
SEE?!?! Told you. Robin Farts.
They kinda look like the Smart Cars. I pulled in at my allergy doctor's last week and parked next to a Smart Car (which made my MINI feel like a frickin' tank!) and had a good laugh with the car's owner. I was shocked to hear that it only got about 33 mpg in town. My MINI does that well with a soft top and a back seat! (Hers does get 41 on the highway...but I think I'd be terrified to drive that tiny thing on an interstate...)
Tootsie
05-12-2008, 08:58 PM
I just hope that he has at least alarmed us into realizing that there is no excuse for not having fuel-efficient vehicles in this day and age. We should have the technology to get around on compressed robin's farts by now, and I really don't care if it means that the chairman of Exxon will have to sell one of his villas in Italy.
totally agree nohall. gore et al may be off their rockers entirely (I doubt it though), but its far past time we take a look at our impact on planet earth and become as inventive as possible in conserving resources and minimizing our impact on natural resources. what were we waiting on to wake up and do the right thing? the study, controversey and issues surrounding global warming science has helped us to open our eyes and learn a little.
which is why I voted for the first option in the poll. I do believe climate change/global warming is taking place (is it a matter of believing? isn't it pretty solid evidence at this point?). I do not understand the extent of natural climate change v. human impact on the environment. doesn't matter to me at this point. I want scientists to continue their best work on every front.
sowalgayboi
05-12-2008, 09:02 PM
I just hope that he has at least alarmed us into realizing that there is no excuse for not having fuel-efficient vehicles in this day and age. We should have the technology to get around on compressed robin's farts by now, and I really don't care if it means that the chairman of Exxon will have to sell one of his villas in Italy.
SEE?!?! Told you. Robin Farts.
They kinda look like the Smart Cars. I pulled in at my allergy doctor's last week and parked next to a Smart Car (which made my MINI feel like a frickin' tank!) and had a good laugh with the car's owner. I was shocked to hear that it only got about 33 mpg in town. My MINI does that well with a soft top and a back seat! (Hers does get 41 on the highway...but I think I'd be terrified to drive that tiny thing on an interstate...)
I see you've moved on from fairy farts. We appreciate the business and are always here to help should you need us again. :cry:
savvytangerine
05-13-2008, 12:43 AM
Thanks to everyone that has voted so far! :clap:
I am sorry to anyone that feels their point of view wasn't available in the poll - I am glad everyone is sharing their views via post! :wave:
LightWorker
05-13-2008, 01:13 PM
Thanks for this poll. I believe it is more important to be careful with my own impact on the earth. The fact that the little changes ST and I have made resulted in a $50 electric bill, was a nice bonus. I really don't want to debate politics or how other people live their lives. I just care about the earth and hope we will all help her.
Take nothing but pictures.
Leave nothing but footprints.
Kill nothing but time.
~Motto of the Baltimore Grotto, a caving society
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle, 1855
sowalgayboi
05-13-2008, 01:32 PM
Take nothing but pictures.
Leave nothing but footprints.
Kill nothing but time.
~Motto of the Baltimore Grotto, a caving society
This quote used to be on all sorts of Florida State Parks pamphlets.
LightWorker
05-13-2008, 02:58 PM
This quote used to be on all sorts of Florida State Parks pamphlets.
Nice....:wave:
aleonard
05-13-2008, 03:01 PM
Drop that spoon..........
CLIMATE change could lead to "killer cornflakes" with the most potent liver toxin ever recorded, an environmental health conference has been told.
The effects of the toxins, known as mycotoxins, have been known since the Middle Ages when rye bread contaminated with ergot fungus was a staple part of the European diet, environmental health researcher Lisa Bricknell of Central Queensland University (CQU) said.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23691709-29277,00.html
sowalgayboi
05-13-2008, 03:04 PM
Aleo I gotta question an article that states a toxin induced abortions. Wouldn't it induce miscarriages? I would think a scientist would make that distinction. :idontno:
aleonard
05-13-2008, 03:14 PM
Aleo I gotta question an article that states a toxin induced abortions. Wouldn't it induce miscarriages? I would think a scientist would make that distinction. :idontno:
I'm gonna answer outta turn here and say the medical term for miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion:idontno: but that is not research, just something that pops up in my memory banks. I have no idea if this lady is a whackadoo or not:wave:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion
Tootsie
05-13-2008, 06:40 PM
thanks for sharing this one LW. absolutely perfect.
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle, 1855
LightWorker
05-14-2008, 01:38 AM
thanks for sharing this one LW. absolutely perfect.
I love this quote and believe we are all connected.
greenroomsurfer
05-17-2008, 12:19 PM
I'm bumping this back up for sole intentions of this car.:cool:
jensieblue
05-20-2008, 11:51 AM
To me the issue is not one of is, or is not climate change happening. Tather it seems to me that the issue is do or do we not want to know. I cannot see how one would refuse to open their mind to the possibility of change. Life is a constant process of change until you die. Why would anyone refuse to accept even the possibility of change. I don't know whether it is or is not but I know I expect my government to FIND OUT rather than spend their time refusing that change is possible and insisting that they "have the whole world in their hands" and the climate will do what they tell it to do. I can list thousands of changes that while once said to be impossible, have occurred....airplanes, space exporation, anyone remember the moon flu scare when man first made it to the moon, telphones...and on and on. There is a reason George W. Bush gets to reap the benefits of Presidental service...That is because he is SUPPOSED to look out for the public...not spend his time, under his desk or in private pryer meetings, only to emerge to tell people not to worry, he's got it under control
fisher
05-20-2008, 02:22 PM
Your poll doesn't cover my answer.
I believe that the earth's climate changes naturally. I'm not so niave as to believe that humans have no impact on it, but I don't think we are as powerful as nature's ability to whip itself back into shape with or without us.
I've said it many times: I have absolutely no faith in Mr. Gore's doomsday predictions on global warming when 1) his carbon footprint is big enough for most large families to live on for a century and 2) I can't find a meteorologist who can accurately predict tomorrow's weather, let alone the weather 50 or a hundred years from now.
Thanks again to jodiFL for the following:
Well said--
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