will obama buy hillary's lunch ?

[up4golf]

it seems as though hillary is ready to give up her run for the nomination if obama will pay off her outstanding debts including her loans to her campaign. what would you do ?

[scooterbug44]

If he does, I'll send him a check to help offset the costs! :biggrin:

She is so evil she scares me! Money well spent IMO!

[Smiling JOe]

I thought that Obama would have paid off her personal loan to her campaign two months ago in exchange for her dropping out and saving face. Now, I think she will wait until the end of the month before accepting such an offer, in case the Dems decide to count MI and FL.

[Rita]

"will obama buy hillary's lunch ?"

She looks like she's been chugging too many shots as it is..:blink:

You'ld think one would drop a pound or two after campaigning nonstop for so long. . :idontno:


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[rapunzel]

The Rules Committee will decide how to seat the MI and FL delegations. The Rules Committee will be using the rules enacted by the DNC in 2006, and which the Democrats in the FL legislature had access to in August 2007.

Violation of timing: In the event the Delegate Selection Plan of a state party provides or permits a meeting, caucus, convention or primary which constitutes the first determining stage in the presidential nominating process to be held prior to or after the dates for the state as provided in Rule 11 of these rules, or in the event a state holds such a meeting, caucus, convention or primary prior to or after such dates, the number of pledged delegates elected in each category allocated to the state pursuant to the Call for the National Convention shall be reduced by fifty (50%) percent, and the number of alternates shall also be reduced by fifty (50%) percent. In addition, none of the members of the Democratic National Committee and no other unpledged delegate allocated pursuant to Rule 8.A. from that state shall be permitted to vote as members of the state’s delegation. In determining the actual number of delegates or alternates by which the state’s delegation is to be reduced, any fraction below .5 shall be rounded down to the nearest whole number, and any fraction of .5 or greater shall be rounded up to the next nearest whole number.

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The Rules Committee will seat the FL delegation with 50% of their vote. That will not be enough to overcome Obama's delegate lead. There is no way, after tonight's vote, that the math works for her. Even if MI is seated with 50% of a vote each, the lead is too great.

At this point, she wants to be Senate Majority leader, and she wants her debt paid off...

[Smiling JOe]

That's right, she cannot take in more money to pay herself back, once she drops out.

[John R]

why would obama pay her debt? she ran, she spent, she lost. if she demands to stay in the race she will hemorrhage more and flame out.

[Smiling JOe]

It would be worth it for him so that he doesn't lose more voters as he battles her and he could begin focusing on the general election and McCain. As he continues to battle Hillary, it is costing him more money, so it is money he would have spent regardless. If she were out of the way, he would have even more money roll in from many business owners, employees, unions, etc. He would actually have more money, if he paid off Hillary and got her out of the way, today.