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liquorqueen
05-03-2008, 12:26 AM
I just returned from my store (about 10 p.m.) and while driving along 30-A I spotted a lone wolf "trotting" along the bike path. I drove up behind it and followed it about 100-300 yards. It wasn't scared at all until oncoming cars came upon us. It then darted across the street, and I blinked my lights at ongoing cars to watch out for it, and it ran into the woods at Highland Park in BMB. Glad I wasn't taking a night stroll down 30-A! Has anyone else see any wolves along the roads lately?
Miss Kitty
05-03-2008, 12:27 AM
Only cougars.
NoHall
05-03-2008, 12:28 AM
Only cougars.
:nono1: Bad Kitty!
Are you sure it wasn't a coyote?
liquorqueen
05-03-2008, 12:42 AM
Thanks NoHall...I think you may be right... it probably was a coyote...and I wasn't even drinking tonight. :-)
Mango
05-03-2008, 12:48 AM
We nearly ran over a coyote right in that very spot a couple of weeks ago. He ran out across 30A. :eek:
chrisv
05-03-2008, 12:50 AM
Coyote. On the prowl for cougars Friday/Saturday nights...:floor:
Cork On the Ocean
05-03-2008, 12:51 AM
Haven't seen one personally but the person that does our whiskers program said that there's been quite a few and she thinks we've lost several cats to them :(
TreeFrog
05-03-2008, 08:32 AM
I saw a coyote about a year ago on 395, just south of the Regions bank and north of Canal St. It was about 10:30 at night.
NotDeadYet
05-03-2008, 08:35 AM
Coyote. And they do eat cats. Everyone on my street in Seagrove has lost cats to the coyotes. :cry:
Best to keep your cats in at night. You could still lose one during the day but it is less likely. Actually we have seen fewer coyotes this spriing than last spring, when they were really thick and I lost two cats.
jdarg
05-03-2008, 08:36 AM
Come to think of it, we haven't seen as many either this spring. From our experience with them in Kentucky, they "hunt out" an area, then move on to another, so they may have just moved around SoWal, but not really left.
olive
05-03-2008, 08:45 AM
I saw a coyote on 98 near Watersound North a couple of days ago.
greenroomsurfer
05-03-2008, 09:00 AM
Wait till ya see the peacocks on 83 in Blue Mountain!
RiverOtter
05-03-2008, 09:54 AM
Did it look like this :idontno:
http://www.theworldaccordingtokang.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/coyote1.jpg
Maybe it was a fox. They seem to be getting ran out of their territories by new housing developments.
Cork On the Ocean
05-03-2008, 10:44 AM
Come to think of it, we haven't seen as many either this spring. From our experience with them in Kentucky, they "hunt out" an area, then move on to another, so they may have just moved around SoWal, but not really left.
:floor:Love you're sig line. It's so toots :rofl:
RiverOtter
05-03-2008, 10:48 AM
Maybe it was a fox. They seem to be getting ran out of their territories by new housing developments.
Look like this :idontno:
http://www.ospreycg.net/Website/Img/mh_DA_fox_cartoon_sketch.jpg
Smiling JOe
05-03-2008, 11:04 AM
Saw a small coyote between 395 and Bay Dr last night. It was so scrawny. No wild wolves in the area that I know of.
scooterbug44
05-03-2008, 11:21 AM
Coyotes are sort of scrawny and tan and more foxlike, wolves are bigger, more of a grey color and are much more doglike.
I've seen/heard coyotes all over the area (including trotting down 30-A in daylight), but I don't think wolves are a local animal.
Cool to see neat animals whatever it was! :biggrin:
barefootguy
05-03-2008, 12:34 PM
Some of the coyotes in the area are a mix of red wolf and coyote, or possibly dog and coyote. We had a family of nine living behind us for a spring and summer. They were definitely a red wolf/coyote mix. Only a couple of the pups looked like coyotes. They started traveling once the pups were grown enough. During that winter we saw them occasionally in just groups of 3 or 4 at a time. Since they each had such distinct markings we could recognize them, especially when reviewing video footage. We haven't seen any of them now for a year and a half.
The US Fish and Wildlife biologists were really excited about my video footage, but informed me that the only full-blooded red wolves are radio-collared and living elsewhere.
There are several gray wolf packs up in Chipley, but they're fenced in at the Seacrest Wolf Preserve. If you like wolves, I'd recommend a visit to Seacrest. Sitting in the middle of a pack of howling wolves is an awesome experience.
There is so much open land around that the coyotes aren't stuck in one place. They can raise their pups in one area and then move on to greener pastures. That way they don't have to rely on the local cat population for food. I just wish there was an easier way for them to cross hwy 98.
In more congested areas you'll either find coyotes or foxes, but not both. They don't share territory well, and the fox ends up dinner for the coyote.
Another thing to note: Coyotes (and wolves) mate for life, and only have a short breeding period during the winter. So in most cases your female dogs are safe.
Goddessgal
05-03-2008, 12:45 PM
I've seen what look like coyote tracks in the woods of NoWal. Keep your kitties inside at night!
BlueMtnBeachVagrant
05-03-2008, 01:21 PM
It's not just your kitties that could be in danger...
http://www.yahoo.com/s/872456
singinchicken
05-03-2008, 01:44 PM
I have probable proof of coyotes in the back corner of my yard. There's a disemboweled racoon in my yard. Not exactly something a dog would do. A lot of it is gone...
Blech...
barefootguy
05-03-2008, 01:54 PM
That kind of thing does happen, but dog attacks are a whole lot more common. I've been growled at by a coyote, licked by a coyote, but it's the loose dogs that I have trouble with. I've been attacked by way to many dogs. I must look like a hoodlum or something. Relaxing bike rides in the country just don't happen for me without being chased down by a group of wandering dogs. I need to keep a billy club strapped to my bike.
Smiling JOe
05-03-2008, 01:59 PM
I learned to pedal faster. About 15 miles into my usual bike ride, I used to always get chased by two dogs, one pit bull. I quickly learned that no matter if I was tired, I needed to get a second wind when riding up that long hill where the dogs lived.
Around here, riding through the neighborhoods, if a dog comes out running at me on my bike. I stop the bike, get off and introduce myself. I am amazed at the difference a shift in my attitude makes. The dogs are much happier when I stop to visit. Some, even follow me around for a while when I get back on my bike.
NoHall
05-03-2008, 03:28 PM
Coyotes are sort of scrawny and tan and more foxlike, wolves are bigger, more of a grey color and are much more doglike.
I've seen/heard coyotes all over the area (including trotting down 30-A in daylight), but I don't think wolves are a local animal.
Cool to see neat animals whatever it was! :biggrin:
And foxes are more feline in the way they run. Much smaller than a coyote or a wolf.
barefootguy
05-03-2008, 05:36 PM
Sometimes cats and coyotes get along just peachy ...
singinchicken
05-03-2008, 06:21 PM
Sometimes cats and coyotes get along just peachy ...
True...but Charlie is a most extraordinary example. The cat, Eli, is his best friend. There is a very popular blog about Charlie at http://dailycoyote.blogspot.com/
The pictures and blogs are from newest to oldest so take the time to click all the way to the beginning and, then, work your way backwards. Pretty neat story...
barefootguy
05-03-2008, 06:40 PM
Yes, that's where I grabbed the pictures. I've really enjoyed that blog, and the pictures are awesome.
singinchicken
05-03-2008, 06:53 PM
It's interesting to read that despite Charlie's being somewhat domesticated he is still all Coyote. I don't think he could ever survive in the real world by himself, but at least the owner still lets him have his coyote behaviors...
RiverOtter
05-04-2008, 09:31 AM
Sometimes cats and coyotes get along just peachy ...
Road Runners and Coyotes don't get along at all
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/Tobeepornottobeep.jpg
Nor do sheep dogs and coyotes
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l274/moonlightcowboy/Sam_and_Ralph_clock.png
Beachbummett
05-04-2008, 09:45 AM
Sometimes cats and coyotes get along just peachy ...
True...but Charlie is a most extraordinary example. The cat, Eli, is his best friend. There is a very popular blog about Charlie at http://dailycoyote.blogspot.com/
The pictures and blogs are from newest to oldest so take the time to click all the way to the beginning and, then, work your way backwards. Pretty neat story...
Geez! Thanks guys now something else I will have to look at every single day. Here is the coyote baby pic, how many ways can you say aaaawWWWWW!!!:
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee295/peteyzgal/shybabyA.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee295/peteyzgal/babywipes.jpg
Smiling JOe
05-04-2008, 09:54 AM
Only cougars.
Dr Phil recently had a show on Cougars who go after the young.
Smiling JOe
05-04-2008, 10:47 AM
It wasn't a "Wolf," but this morning, I found a "Wolf Spider," hiding in a hole in my back yard. I took a photo but the hole is too dark, and only his over-sized fangs show up in the photo.
seagrovegirl
05-04-2008, 12:46 PM
There was a wolf spider living with me for a couple of weeks about 10 years ago. Every evening when my son and I were watching TV, it would come out from somewhere and plant itself infront of the TV like he was watching it with us. We didn't kill it, it was quite entertaining. He became part of the family, then one day...it never came back.
I was up on 20 this morning traveling West and had a coyote cross the road in front of me. It had a nice coat. The ones I would see in Northern MN were almost always dealing with Mange.
rheffron
05-06-2008, 04:21 PM
I learned to pedal faster. About 15 miles into my usual bike ride, I used to always get chased by two dogs, one pit bull. I quickly learned that no matter if I was tired, I needed to get a second wind when riding up that long hill where the dogs lived.
Around here, riding through the neighborhoods, if a dog comes out running at me on my bike. I stop the bike, get off and introduce myself. I am amazed at the difference a shift in my attitude makes. The dogs are much happier when I stop to visit. Some, even follow me around for a while when I get back on my bike.
Yikes! I think those are my dogs you are talking about. I try to keep them in, but it's a challenge! The would'nt hurt a flea!
mikecatadjuster
05-06-2008, 05:28 PM
There are wolves on St. Vincent Island, east of here, which were introduced by the parks service, but none here. Like most people here say, a Coyote. And they are all over in the forest. Their tracks are everywhere. Behind my house in Seagrove one was eating something one morning about a month ago and yes, they have gotten cats and some small dogs in the area. I'm still seeing plenty, plenty snakes too.
Smiling JOe
05-07-2008, 12:13 AM
It is true that many coyotes hang out in the State Forest, but I've seen them on 30A and around the Lakes. Captured a pic of one behind Stinky's Fish House, last year. I also recall someone on SoWal writing that they knew of one which would go to the dunes, looking down on the beach, on occasion.
JOE who...?
05-20-2008, 09:41 AM
I just returned from my store (about 10 p.m.) and while driving along 30-A I spotted a lone wolf "trotting" along the bike path. I drove up behind it and followed it about 100-300 yards. It wasn't scared at all until oncoming cars came upon us. It then darted across the street, and I blinked my lights at ongoing cars to watch out for it, and it ran into the woods at Highland Park in BMB. Glad I wasn't taking a night stroll down 30-A! Has anyone else see any wolves along the roads lately?
I haven't seen a wolf, but maybe evidence that one exist (or something really BIG)... I walk along 'pt. forest' road between CR283 and CR395... Over the last few months I've noticed VERY LARGE dog tracks... They go one way with no human tracks beside it, therefore I ass/u/me it's some type of BIG wild animal... (my cell phone is a little more than 4 1/2")
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Not a cat track. Cat tracks are wider than long. It is definitely Canis species.
If this track is 4 1/2" long as it appears next to your phone, this is either a very large dog or possibly some type of brush wolf although a typical track of a coyote is more like maybe 3" in length.
I live on 393 and hear coyote packs howling at night on occasion. It really gets the neighborhood dogs going. :biggrin:
JOE who...?
05-20-2008, 03:19 PM
About three months ago i noticed the track... If you walk down the road after a rain you can see them... It's one lone dog and only goes one way... At first i thought it was a VERY LARGE domesticated dog, but after seeing it time and time again with one way tracks and no human footprints i convinced myself it was a 'wild' dog of some type... It'd be interesting to find out...
Tootsie
05-20-2008, 04:52 PM
I just returned from my store (about 10 p.m.) and while driving along 30-A I spotted a lone wolf "trotting" along the bike path. I drove up behind it and followed it about 100-300 yards. It wasn't scared at all until oncoming cars came upon us. It then darted across the street, and I blinked my lights at ongoing cars to watch out for it, and it ran into the woods at Highland Park in BMB. Glad I wasn't taking a night stroll down 30-A! Has anyone else see any wolves along the roads lately?
hey LQ!! wolf! you're such an exagerrator! :floor: kidding. I would have thought the same. what a neat sight on 30A.
Some of the coyotes in the area are a mix of red wolf and coyote, or possibly dog and coyote. We had a family of nine living behind us for a spring and summer. They were definitely a red wolf/coyote mix. Only a couple of the pups looked like coyotes. They started traveling once the pups were grown enough. During that winter we saw them occasionally in just groups of 3 or 4 at a time. Since they each had such distinct markings we could recognize them, especially when reviewing video footage. We haven't seen any of them now for a year and a half.
The US Fish and Wildlife biologists were really excited about my video footage, but informed me that the only full-blooded red wolves are radio-collared and living elsewhere.
There are several gray wolf packs up in Chipley, but they're fenced in at the Seacrest Wolf Preserve. If you like wolves, I'd recommend a visit to Seacrest. Sitting in the middle of a pack of howling wolves is an awesome experience.
There is so much open land around that the coyotes aren't stuck in one place. They can raise their pups in one area and then move on to greener pastures. That way they don't have to rely on the local cat population for food. I just wish there was an easier way for them to cross hwy 98.
In more congested areas you'll either find coyotes or foxes, but not both. They don't share territory well, and the fox ends up dinner for the coyote.
Another thing to note: Coyotes (and wolves) mate for life, and only have a short breeding period during the winter. So in most cases your female dogs are safe.
my son's class actually visited this wolf preserve last year and enjoyed touching/petting a few of the friendly ones. I was just thinking about this place the other day and how it would be a fun thing to do this summer. thanks for the reminder!
There are wolves on St. Vincent Island, east of here, which were introduced by the parks service, but none here.
One yearling did escape in 2007, but they quickly captured him (humanely!). I think the wildlife service sends the yearlings to other locations on a regular basis, but this guy had been eager to find new territory on his own.
Like most people here say, a Coyote. And they are all over in the forest
We could hear them yip-yipping on occasion when we lived in Port St Joe.
my son's class actually visited this wolf preserve last year and enjoyed touching/petting a few of the friendly ones. I was just thinking about this place the other day and how it would be a fun thing to do this summer. thanks for the reminder!
I remember reading about this place. I am sure they help a lot of animals that need it,and educate folks about the beauty and wonder to be found in wild animals and their behavior.
But one thing that kind of bothered me was the fact that they appeared to be allowing their wolves/wolf hybrids to mate and create more wolves/wolf hybrids. I assume they are licensed by the state;I was curious about what happens to the pups. It kind of bugs me when places like that ask for money to Adopt A Wolf when they keep on making new captive wolves.
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