The number of Wright supporters just fell by 1.

[BeachKing]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D90BM7UG1&show_article=1
Obama says he's outraged by former pastor's comments http://img.breitbart.com/images/ap.gif (http://www.breitbart.com/partner.php?source=ap) http://www.breitbart.com/images/common/dot.gif Apr 29 02:04 PM US/Eastern
http://www.breitbart.com/images/common/dot.gif HICKORY, N.C. (AP) - Democrat Barack Obama says he was outraged by the comments of his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and saddened by the spectacle of his appearance on Monday. Wright said Monday that criticism surrounding his fiery sermons is an attack on the black church.
Obama told reporters Tuesday that Wright's comments do not accurately portray the perspective of the black church.
Obama said, "I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened by the spectacle that we saw yesterday."
Wright's incendiary comments have dogged Obama's presidential campaign. :blush::wub::wave::welcome:

[cp]

Are you saying you supported Wright until yesterday (Monday)?:yikes:

[sunspotbaby]

I've got CNN on right now! Obama is definitely trying to distance himself from the preacher man ...Wow!

[BeachKing]

Are you saying you supported Wright until yesterday (Monday)?:yikes:

Not Likely, but you knew that didn't you. :roll:

[waterst1]

I've got CNN on right now! Obama is definitely trying to distance himself from the preacher man ...Wow!


If I was Obama, I'd give the idiot preacher a million dollars to keep his mouth shut...

[sunspotbaby]

The Republicans are probably doing him better than a million!:cool:

[waterst1]

Good point!

[BeachKing]

The Republicans are probably doing him better than a million!:cool:

Betcha Ya-All think George Bush don dit it,, Yeserrrrreeee That is, George did it. he dropped a Franklin on that Wright guy. No way it could be anything but Bush.

So, come Feb 09, Just who will pick up the slack?:clap:

Yup, keep drinkin the Kool-Aid,,,

[ItzKatzTime]

If I was Obama, I'd give the idiot preacher a million dollars to keep his mouth shut...


Because of the type of man Wright is, I believe Obama's distancing himself will just fuel Wright's fire. He likes the controversy....it's gives him a platform. Look how excited he is to get up there and speak his mind about his beliefs.....great for Wright, only time will tell for Obama.

Wright has his own agenda! There's a storm a brewing!:blink:

[30A Skunkape]

Because of the type of man Wright is, I believe Obama's distancing himself will just fuel Wright's fire. He likes the controversy....it's gives him a platform. Look how excited he is to get up there and speak his mind about his beliefs.....great for Wright, only time will tell for Obama.

Wright has his own agenda! There's a storm a brewing!:blink:

Storms coming?! Time to hunker down with some D&K's seafood dip;-)

[seagrovegirl]

Where is Obama's passion? Sure wasn't in his speach today debunking Wright. I expected Obama to speak out today but didn't expect the lethargy....each word was painfully measured, then spoken without confidence. I get that Obama does not believe his own words that he spoke tonight, trying to convince us that he doesn't agree with Wright. I didn't buy it....did you?

[jdarg]

Where is Obama's passion? Sure wasn't in his speach today debunking Wright. I expected Obama to speak out today but didn't expect the lethargy....each word was painfully measured, then spoken without confidence. I get that Obama does not believe his own words that he spoke tonight, trying to convince us that he doesn't agree with Wright. I didn't buy it....did you?


I didn't expect him to have any passion about speaking out against Wright- I am sure it was a very painful and disappointing speech to have to make. I think Obama has made it quite obvious that not only is Rev. Wright's words at odds with Obama's beliefs, Wright's behavior has become distasteful to Obama as well.

What candidate wants to make speeches like this, when they could be concentrating on speeches about issues that they are passionate about?

I have moved way on from Rev. Wright. Of course I did several weeks ago, and have mostly ignoring Wright's comments and the media's blow up about them. Yawn. But, like someone else siad, I "drank the kool-aid".:roll:

[Tootsie]

I've missed all the latest on wright because I have not turned on tv or news in weeks. you guys are making me want to turn it on again and find out what the hail is going on. I moved on long ago, picked my candidate and turned the tv off.

[30A Skunkape]

I've missed all the latest on wright because I have not turned on tv or news in weeks. you guys are making me want to turn it on again and find out what the hail is going on. I moved on long ago, picked my candidate and turned the tv off.

What else are we supposed to do other than watch TV...Kurt is always taking SOWAL offline:bang:;-)

[rapunzel]

Yes...it's all kurt's fault.

[seagrovegirl]

I didn't expect him to have any passion about speaking out against Wright- I am sure it was a very painful and disappointing speech to have to make. I think Obama has made it quite obvious that not only is Rev. Wright's words at odds with Obama's beliefs, Wright's behavior has become distasteful to Obama as well.

What candidate wants to make speeches like this, when they could be concentrating on speeches about issues that they are passionate about?

I have moved way on from Rev. Wright. Of course I did several weeks ago, and have mostly ignoring Wright's comments and the media's blow up about them. Yawn. But, like someone else siad, I "drank the kool-aid".:roll:

The Obama/Wright controversy is serious...to me anyway. Do I want a president that has associated himself with this type of hatred for 20 years without a heartfelt explanation. I was leaning toward Obama for my vote, but I don't know anymore....I am disappointed by his response....it hasn't soothed my feathers. Yawn all you want, Obama is hurting himself.

[kurt]

It's a beautiful day! Go outside!

[Tootsie]

I think this thread is very ridiculous. I am not a mccain supporter. decided that long ago. don't want to drag out the bush policies any longer than necessary. good lord, I feel like the world is about to end under this administration. but bush/mccain isn't my point. my point is this: there is nothing about mccain that I want to go drag out about his personal life, including sex or church or scandal or whatever, that I need to post about to prove my point about not voting for him. that would be just as silly as this very thread. of course, the wright thing is very very provocative and I can see how people just can't help being drawn in by it.

[BeachKing]

I think this thread is very ridiculous. I am not a mccain supporter. decided that long ago. don't want to drag out the bush policies any longer than necessary. good lord, I feel like the world is about to end under this administration. but bush/mccain isn't my point. my point is this: there is nothing about mccain that I want to go drag out about his personal life, including sex or church or scandal or whatever, that I need to post about to prove my point about not voting for him. that would be just as silly as this very thread. of course, the wright thing is very very provocative and I can see how people just can't help being drawn in by it.

Tootsie, Just the facts,, I posted this to point out that Mr Obama came to the conclusion his own “Uncle” was not someone to listen to. Now if Mr Obama thinks this ,, then, well,, Take it to its conclusion, just 4 weeks ago we all heard it was all just “sound bites”, that the Media “invented” an issue. As late as yesterday we were listening to several experts telling us it was still the media’s fault, all taken out of context somehow. I have no need to spout my personal candidate to you, not my point. Funny thing is, If I were to write a novel based on this line, no one would believe it.

Lastly , If you’re a supporter of this Bigot, so be it, its America, that Flag you see stands for your right to speak your peace. Thank God for that. :welcome:
Night Night.

[rapunzel]

Tootsie, Just the facts,, I posted this to point out that Mr Obama came to the conclusion his own “Uncle” was not someone to listen to. Now if Mr Obama thinks this ,, then, well,, Take it to its conclusion, just 4 weeks ago we all heard it was all just “sound bites”, that the Media “invented” an issue. As late as yesterday we were listening to several experts telling us it was still the media’s fault, all taken out of context somehow. I have no need to spout my personal candidate to you, not my point. Funny thing is, If I were to write a novel based on this line, no one would believe it.

Lastly , If you’re a supporter of this Bigot, so be it, its America, that Flag you see stands for your right to speak your peace. Thank God for that. :welcome:
Night Night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qNi7tPanUA

Nobody's perfect...glass houses...all that. :wave:

[sowalgayboi]

Betcha Ya-All think George Bush don dit it,, Yeserrrrreeee That is, George did it. he dropped a Franklin on that Wright guy. No way it could be anything but Bush.

So, come Feb 09, Just who will pick up the slack?:clap:

Yup, keep drinkin the Kool-Aid,,,

Tootsie, Just the facts,, I posted this to point out that Mr Obama came to the conclusion his own “Uncle” was not someone to listen to. Now if Mr Obama thinks this ,, then, well,, Take it to its conclusion, just 4 weeks ago we all heard it was all just “sound bites”, that the Media “invented” an issue. As late as yesterday we were listening to several experts telling us it was still the media’s fault, all taken out of context somehow. I have no need to spout my personal candidate to you, not my point. Funny thing is, If I were to write a novel based on this line, no one would believe it.

Lastly , If you’re a supporter of this Bigot, so be it, its America, that Flag you see stands for your right to speak your peace. Thank God for that. :welcome:
Night Night.

First I would like to point out that I feel Rev. Wright is milking this for all it's worth, advertising is expensive these days.

I find it very interesting that someone who has been bashing this person as racist seems to throw out some interesting comments themselves. In the first quote you have the yessserrree comment, is that a generalization towards Texans, southerners, or both? What is the Uncle comment refferring too? I don't remember them being related so I can only assume that you are leaning towards a refernce at Uncle Tom's Cabin.

[Smiling JOe]

I believe Obama said that he loved Rev Wright like an uncle, didn't he?

Interesting that you mention the high cost of advertising. When combined with the limited funds of the candidates, it wouldn't surprise me at all, if each candidate's campaign, wanting free press, were to leak minor stories about their own candidate, so that the candidate gets free press time on national TV, radio and newspapers. A good response from the candidate regarding the minor stories, could easily win over some new people, and right now, there is enough crap floating around on all three candidates, that in the end, the race will simply come down to name recognition and a popularity contest.

[InletBchDweller]

I believe Obama said that he loved Rev Wright like an uncle, didn't he?

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Why yes I believe he did.

But, IMHO, having an endorsement from some wacko is much different than having the wacko marry you, baptize your children, "spiritually advise" you and pray with you for over 20 years.....

[Tootsie]

Why yes I believe he did.

But, IMHO, having an endorsement from some wacko is much different than having the wacko marry you, baptize your children, "spiritually advise" you and pray with you for over 20 years.....



this is all a matter of a person's personal life, imo. the best candidate could be athiest (not that there's anything wrong with that) for all I care. beleive it or not, people of all faiths and beliefs can have strong morals and values, and are capable of world leadership. but I do care a great deal about what a candidate has done to make a difference in the lives of others in his/her public life, and has demonstrated that he/she is capable of providing the leadership we've not had in 8 years. this is what I wish citizens would focus on right now. regardless of who you feel is best to lead the country. instead of trying to find something personal to judge.:biggrin:

[rapunzel]

I'm much more offended by a man who says Katrina was God's judgement on New Orleans for all the sin. Given the sin involves many tourists, and many good New Orleanians died in a horrible flood, mostly the old and infirm, I think he's speaking in a way to justify his endorsement of someone who could turn his back on the least among us...very un-Christ like. Theology for simpletons.

And for Godssake, what did Ocean Springs do to anger God so badly?

I find the Hagee comments a thousand times more offensive than anything Wright said. McCain hugged him and accepted his endorsement fully aware of all the things he said. McCain once called him an agent of intolerance, but is now cool with alligning himself with those agents. McCain certainly hasn't condemned Hagee's statements.

By the logic being applied to Obama, should we not assume McCain agrees the Catholic church is the whore of Christianity? He hugged the man after knowing he'd made these comments.

[sunspotbaby]

Just because you embrace the person doesn't mean you embrace their beliefs.

I would hate to think I'm responsible for everything that comes out of the mouths of people I just happen to know. :eek:

[jdarg]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qNi7tPanUA

Nobody's perfect...glass houses...all that. :wave:

Hagee's a peach, isn't he? :floor:

Excellent glass house counterpoint.

[Gypsea]

IMHO, both of the Reverends are very intolerent and apparently hold a grudge for thousands of years. Wouldn't it be better if we look at how far we have come, admire our differences and try to make the world a better place in the future? If everyone who claims to be religious will ask themselves how loving and tolerent of others they really are then maybe something positive will result from this. I hope so.

[Tootsie]

the hagee dude is really something. I would like to know more about him just to kind of see what an entire group of americans are thinking like. :shock: I wonder how many follow this guy? to me, this is much much much more scary than a dramatic black pastor who likes to hear himself talk about the injustices of his people - which by the way are not fabricated in any way.

[Rita]

While the Clintons and McCain are trying to keep attention focused on Wright, the Superdelegates appear to be moving! Obama has gotten 2 so far today and I believe he got 3 yesterday to Hillary's two. I wonder if there are more to come soon? Getting interesting. :D

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[cp]

IMHO, both of the Reverends are very intolerent and apparently hold a grudge for thousands of years. Wouldn't it be better if we look at how far we have come, admire our differences and try to make the world a better place in the future? If everyone who claims to be religious will ask themselves how loving and tolerent of others they really are then maybe something positive will result from this. I hope so.
I agree,both are extremist! rich extremist at that! I wouldn't want anything to do with either.
that said,I do however want a person of faith in the white house.There is a whole of middle road between these two men .

[Tootsie]

While the Clintons and McCain are trying to keep attention focused on Wright, the Superdelegates appear to be moving! Obama has gotten 2 so far today and I believe he got 3 yesterday to Hillary's two. I wonder if there are more to come soon? Getting interesting. :D

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:biggrin::wave:

[BeachSiO2]

I agree,both are extremist! rich extremist at that! I wouldn't want anything to do with either.
that said,I do however want a person of faith in the white house.There is a whole of middle road between these two men .

How about a person of faith in the Wright house? :biggrin: :leaving:

[jdarg]

I agree,both are extremist! rich extremist at that! I wouldn't want anything to do with either.
that said,I do however want a person of faith in the white house.There is a whole of middle road between these two men .

All 3 candidates are "people of faith"...and all Christian. What is your definition of a "person of faith"? :idontno:

[Rita]

While the Clintons and McCain are trying to keep attention focused on Wright, the Superdelegates appear to be moving! Obama has gotten 2 so far today and I believe he got 3 yesterday to Hillary's two. I wonder if there are more to come soon? Getting interesting. :D

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So far today, May 1:
Former DNC Chairman Joe Andrew, (appointed by Bill Clinton) and former chair of the Indiana Democratic Party switched his vote from Clinton to Obama.
DNC member John Patrick, a 31-year member of the United Steelworkers union and vice president of the Texas AFL-CIO/Patrick had been a supporter of former Senator John Edwards - Obama

Yesterday, April30:
Iowa Rep. Bruce Braley/a freshman lawmaker, previously had supported John Edwards. - Obama
Kentucky Rep. Ben Chandler - Obama
Iowa DNC member Richard Machacek - Obama

Bill George, president of the Pennsylvania AFL-CIO - Clinton
Missouri Rep. Ike Skelton - Clinton


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[BeachSiO2]

So far today, May 1:
DNC Chairman Joe Andrew switched his vote from Clinton to Obama.
DNC member John Patrick, a 31-year member of the United Steelworkers union and vice president of the Texas AFL-CIO/Patrick had been a supporter of former Senator John Edwards - Obama

Yesterday, April30:
Iowa Rep. Bruce Braley/a freshman lawmaker, previously had supported John Edwards. - Obama
Kentucky Rep. Ben Chandler - Obama
Iowa DNC member Richard Machacek - Obama

Bill George, president of the Pennsylvania AFL-CIO - Clinton
Missouri Rep. Ike Skelton - Clinton


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I know Ike Skelton's college roommate (and he's a Republican).

[cp]

as apposed to an athiest

[Rita]

All 3 candidates are "people of faith"...and all Christian. What is your definition of a "person of faith"? :idontno:

To me Obama demonstrated he has a "good value system" or acted in a "Christian-like" manner, if you will, by giving Rev. Wright the benefit of the doubt initially and not denouncing him as a person, friend, pastor. He obviously did not want to hurt the Rev. or the church.

I also feel Obama was right to take a strong stance opposing Rev. Wright's "rants" in his Natl. Press Club speech.


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[scooterbug44]

I'd rather vote for an atheist than someone who claims to be religious, but doesn't follow the most basic tenets of their religion.

There are many great human beings who've never darkened the door of a church and some real pieces of work who frequently attend a house of worship!

[Rita]

I know Ike Skelton's college roommate (and he's a Republican).

I had to look it up. But seems he is a Democrat (at least for now): Or did you mean his roommate is a Republican? :confused:

link: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400377


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[Rita]

I'd rather vote for an atheist than someone who claims to be religious, but doesn't follow the most basic tenets of their religion.

There are many great human beings who've never darkened the door of a church and some real pieces of work who frequently attend a house of worship!

I'm with you there!


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[BeachSiO2]

I had to look it up. But seems he is a Democrat (at least for now): Or did you mean his roommate is a Republican? :confused:

link: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400377


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Roomie was, he may have switched recently though.

[InletBchDweller]

this is all a matter of a person's personal life, imo. the best candidate could be athiest (not that there's anything wrong with that) for all I care. beleive it or not, people of all faiths and beliefs can have strong morals and values, and are capable of world leadership. but I do care a great deal about what a candidate has done to make a difference in the lives of others in his/her public life, and has demonstrated that he/she is capable of providing the leadership we've not had in 8 years. this is what I wish citizens would focus on right now. regardless of who you feel is best to lead the country. instead of trying to find something personal to judge.:biggrin:

I dont think anyone is stating that Obama or his church have not done good things for the community. I believe that Obama is a good person just not President material - IMO. He is a great motivator and a good speaker (when he has speeches to read/memorize). However, when Obama states that he did not know that these "things" were going on in "his church" I think it was an out'wright' lie. If he is such a poor judge of character on Rev. Wright then how can we entrust him to lead us? He wants to sit down and talk with foreign leaders?? Can/could we entrust him to judge their character as well?? :idontno:

Hagee's a peach, isn't he?

and a rotten one at that....


There are many great human beings who've never darkened the door of a church and some real pieces of work who frequently attend a house of worship!

This is true....good words SB44!!

[cp]

I'd rather vote for an atheist than someone who claims to be religious, but doesn't follow the most basic tenets of their religion.

There are many great human beings who've never darkened the door of a church and some real pieces of work who frequently attend a house of worship!
that sure true! I personally couldn't vote for an atheist.On the other hand I don't want an extremest or a someone who "has the religion for show" and I don't think any of the three fall under that heading.
One of the three had a personal pastor that is an extremist and one has a nut case that endorsed him. I guess he excepted it because he needs votes from that group. The other person thats running who knows?
I live in an very conservative area and McCain is just not considered conservative to many of them. They really feel like they don't have anyone to vote for in this election. I've triedto encourage them to get out and vote! (I'm a huge believer in voting)

[30A Skunkape]

Before work this morning I picked up Audacity of Hope for the first time and went straight to the index and looked up 'religion'. Make no mistake, he is a total church/state separatist but he acknowledges that systemic Judeo-Christian values ought to play as large a role in government programs as an army of lawyers and policy wonks.

[cp]

Skunky,I'm so glad you changed your tar!!!I meant to say something like go take a pic of some food or something:wave:

[cp]

I just read your new one,are NO poboys in danger?I wish I had me a huge poboy right now!






sorry about getting off the subject

[BeachSiO2]

I just read your new one,are NO poboys in danger?I wish I had me a huge poboy right now!


sorry about getting off the subject

Me too a Ferdi's Special with extra debris...

[Rita]

I'm much more offended by a man who says Katrina was God's judgement on New Orleans for all the sin. Given the sin involves many tourists, and many good New Orleanians died in a horrible flood, mostly the old and infirm, I think he's speaking in a way to justify his endorsement of someone who could turn his back on the least among us...very un-Christ like. Theology for simpletons.

And for Godssake, what did Ocean Springs do to anger God so badly?

I find the Hagee comments a thousand times more offensive than anything Wright said. McCain hugged him and accepted his endorsement fully aware of all the things he said. McCain once called him an agent of intolerance, but is now cool with alligning himself with those agents. McCain certainly hasn't condemned Hagee's statements.

By the logic being applied to Obama, should we not assume McCain agrees the Catholic church is the whore of Christianity? He hugged the man after knowing he'd made these comments.

IMHO, both of the Reverends are very intolerent and apparently hold a grudge for thousands of years. Wouldn't it be better if we look at how far we have come, admire our differences and try to make the world a better place in the future? If everyone who claims to be religious will ask themselves how loving and tolerent of others they really are then maybe something positive will result from this. I hope so.

Yep! A we've had to listen to things like this from Pastor Jerry Falwell in the past:
"I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this (the 9/11 terror attacks) happen.'"


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[30A Skunkape]

I just read your new one,are NO poboys in danger?I wish I had me a huge poboy right now!






sorry about getting off the subject

I think it is a reaction to the Subwayization of America.

[Smiling JOe]

the hagee dude is really something. I would like to know more about him just to kind of see what an entire group of americans are thinking like. :shock: I wonder how many follow this guy? to me, this is much much much more scary than a dramatic black pastor who likes to hear himself talk about the injustices of his people - which by the way are not fabricated in any way.

Toots, if you really want to learn more about Hagee, turn on your TV on Sunday mornings. I caught a couple of his preaching episodes. He is all about selling the book and books on tape.

I haven't been keeping track of McCain's religious life, nor have I heard anything about who he views as his mentor. I have also never heard that McCain spent the last twenty years seeking council from Hagee, which is how the glass house analogy strikes me. I may be completely off-base, but I think Rev Wright's relationship with Sen Obama sounds much closer than Hagee and Sen McClain, which I know of no such relationship with the latter (doesn't mean its not there).

[Tootsie]

Toots, if you really want to learn more about Hagee, turn on your TV on Sunday mornings. I caught a couple of his preaching episodes. He is all about selling the book and books on tape.

I haven't been keeping track of McCain's religious life, nor have I heard anything about who he views as his mentor. I have also never heard that McCain spent the last twenty years seeking council from Hagee, which is how the glass house analogy strikes me. I may be completely off-base, but I think Rev Wright's relationship with Sen Obama sounds much closer than Hagee and Sen McClain, which I know of no such relationship with the latter (doesn't mean its not there).

I don't know either, and really would not care one way or the other. the analogy is probably not a good one.

[organicmama]

I'd rather vote for an atheist than someone who claims to be religious, but doesn't follow the most basic tenets of their religion.

There are many great human beings who've never darkened the door of a church and some real pieces of work who frequently attend a house of worship!


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