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aleonard
02-06-2008, 02:28 PM
I wanted to give a "Shout out" to another writer, who did a great job on this article. It's short, so I hope posting it will be ok:D
Way to go, Chris.:clap:

(NOTE: This article was submitted for the Feb. 7 issue of the DeFuniak Springs Herald Breeze, but did not make it in due to space limitations.)

ROVE ANSWERS QUESTIONS, BUT MEDIA SILENCED

By CHRIS MANSON
Karl Rove's appearance Saturday during the 13th annual Florida Chautauqua Assembly attracted a polite crowd that included city and county officials, as well as actors portraying President Abraham Lincoln, Mary Todd Lincoln, Florida Governor Sidney J. Catts, and author Louisa May Alcott.

Florida Chautauqua Center, Inc. president Christopher Mitchell informed the capacity crowd at the Methodist Sanctuary that the question and answer session with Rove would follow "an academic format. We are just here to learn. Come to your own conclusions."

The previous day, following Dr. Steven Hochman's appearance, Mitchell informed the media that they were welcome to attend Rove's keynote speech but would not be allowed to ask the Bush administration's former chief of staff any questions.

When an editor from Southern Living magazine, who was here to host an afternoon presentation entitled "So You Want to Be a Travel Writer?" stood up to ask Rove about what he thought President Bush's legacy would be, he was promptly silenced. The audience was allowed to ask questions, but no one from the press was afforded that right.

"God, that felt good," said Rove, who during his speech showed his disdain for the press by referring to "stupid" editorials in the New York Times.

Later, outside the church, the editor said he found Rove's remark "terribly demeaning."

Rove's speech was punctuated by presidential trivia and humor and was generally well-received. He spoke of the personal challenges that befell former presidents and referred to all 43 as "a pretty remarkable group of presidents."

Jim Fowler, from TV's Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom had originally been scheduled to speak Saturday morning, but relinquished his slot to Rove so that he could participate in a wildlife demonstration in the Lake Yard. Rove acknowledged Fowler's presence by referring to some of the more unusual presidential pets.

Theodore Rooosevelt had his snakes, and Woodrow Wilson kept a flock of sheep on the White House lawn. Lincoln, Rove said, wisely refused the King of Siam's gift of a group of elephants.

Rove said during the 2008 presidential campaign, the public could determine how the future leader of the free world might react when under stress.

"You better be in good physical shape," said Rove of presidential hopefuls, "and be unconcerned about your legacy." He said every president had benefited in some way from the previous president's accomplishments.

Rove said a good president must also build coalitions and "put the interests of the country above the party."

During the question and answer session, an audience member asked about the biggest misconception of Bush.

"That he's a good ol' boy," said Rove. "He's Yale and Harvard educated. He reads a lot. He's really smart. A very adroit, very sophisticated and thoughtful person."

A woman who identified herself as "a naturalized citizen" asked Rove who started "this 'Press one for English' thing."

Rove answered that he thought English should be required of all Americans. Later, Rove addressed the immigration controversy, informing the audience that last year 1.3 million illegals had been apprehended and returned across the border.

"It's getting harder, not easier, to get across," said Rove. He noted that deporting all of the estimated 12 million immigrants still residing in the country illegally would be foolhardy and costly. "Rounding them up and saying, 'Get the hell out of here' is not the answer."

Rove said the path to citizenship should be "bleed, sweat, and pay."

Also, Rove told the crowd that terrorism was still the highest priority issue for the country. He said Muslim extremists were determined to destroy western civilization and "restart the golden age of Islam from the ninth and 10th centuries.

Fowler asked Rove, "Have you ever thought of running for president?"

"I ain't that stupid," said Rove. "My wife would kill me."

TooFarTampa
02-06-2008, 03:46 PM
I'm glad to see that space considerations precluded it from running. This is not a slam against the story itself, far from it. If he won't talk to reporters, why should the reporters do anything to distribute his words to a wider audience? :roll: Most politicians understand this (I guess Rove is not a politician though).

Two questions, because I am curious:

Did Rove get paid to do the speech?

Did someone put out a press release about the speech?

aleonard
02-06-2008, 03:55 PM
I'm glad to see that space considerations precluded it from running. This is not a slam against the story itself, far from it. If he won't talk to reporters, why should the reporters do anything to distribute his words to a wider audience? :roll: Most politicians understand this (I guess Rove is not a politician though).

Two questions, because I am curious:

Did Rove get paid to do the speech?

Did someone put out a press release about the speech?

Good Questions.

I don't have any idea about the pay.:idontno: As far as PR before the event it was announced Thursday morning (2 days prior)that a "special guest" speaker had turned up and it hit the press the next day. After the event the speech was covered in NWF daily news but just a short bit.

Andy A.
02-06-2008, 03:59 PM
Sorry about the silencing of the press, but I totally agree with it in this particular forum. The press gets plenty of chances to ask well known figures like Karl Rove questions on just about everything under the sun. For the general public to be able to do so is great and I applaud the Chautauqua leadership for stating their intentions and then sticking to them. Sorry, the editor was found Rove's remark "terribly demeaning" but then I feel sure Rove finds many questions from the media "terribly demeaning" as well. Wish I could have been there.

TooFarTampa
02-06-2008, 04:04 PM
Good Questions.

I don't have any idea about the pay.:idontno: As far as PR before the event it was announced Thursday morning (2 days prior)that a "special guest" speaker had turned up and it hit the press the next day. After the event the speech was covered in NWF daily news but just a short bit.

It just seems obvious that if the group is going to make an announcement to the press about the event, and reap the benefit of the publicity, the press should be welcomed, or at least tolerated. It works both ways.

If Rove can't handle a question from a Southern Living travel editor who is helping out the people running the event, and then decides to insult said person in front of all attending, then I'm surprised he was able to function in Washington at all.

aleonard
02-06-2008, 04:10 PM
Sorry about the silencing of the press, but I totally agree with it in this particular forum. The press gets plenty of chances to ask well known figures like Karl Rove questions on just about everything under the sun. For the general public to be able to do so is great and I applaud the Chautauqua leadership for stating their intentions and then sticking to them. Sorry, the editor was found Rove's remark "terribly demeaning" but then I feel sure Rove finds many questions from the media "terribly demeaning" as well. Wish I could have been there.


I just wanted to give props to Chris and his work:D No matter the subject matter he wrote a very solid article out of quotes. I wanted people to get the chance to read it.:wave:

aleonard
02-06-2008, 04:13 PM
It just seems obvious that if the group is going to make an announcement to the press about the event, and reap the benefit of the publicity, the press should be welcomed, or at least tolerated. It works both ways.

If Rove can't handle a question from a Southern Living travel editor who is helping out the people running the event, and then decides to insult said person in front of all attending, then I'm surprised he was able to function in Washington at all.


When I heard the gentleman was from Southern Living mag I ask Chris, "What was he gonna ask him? What's you favorite cake?":biggrin:

Or, "Where do you like to vacation?" :biggrin: No, all props to the great people at SLM. I just don't think that writer was around Friday morning when they announced the rules in person or maybe he took a chance.:idontno:

TooFarTampa
02-06-2008, 04:14 PM
Sorry about the silencing of the press, but I totally agree with it in this particular forum. The press gets plenty of chances to ask well known figures like Karl Rove questions on just about everything under the sun. For the general public to be able to do so is great and I applaud the Chautauqua leadership for stating their intentions and then sticking to them. Sorry, the editor was found Rove's remark "terribly demeaning" but then I feel sure Rove finds many questions from the media "terribly demeaning" as well. Wish I could have been there.

You really think so, in Rove's case?

Edit to say that there are always ways to let the public have their time to ask questions. You could reserve a few minutes for media questions at the end, or a short 5 minute aside after the speech. This sounds like merely a punitive approach, not a practical one.

Andy A.
02-06-2008, 04:22 PM
I just wanted to give props to Chris and his work:D No matter the subject matter he wrote a very solid article out of quotes. I wanted people to get the chance to read it.:wave:
It was a great article and I'm glad you posted it. The fact that the press did not get to ask questions in this particular case, is incidental. It is my understanding that the presentation was anything but a press conference. Am I wrong?

aleonard
02-06-2008, 04:24 PM
It was a great article and I'm glad you posted it. The fact that the press did not get to ask questions in this particular case, is incidental. It is my understanding that the presentation was anything but a press conference. Am I wrong?


I just don't think that writer was around Friday morning when they announced the rules in person or maybe he took a chance.:idontno: We were able to interact with all the other speakers.

scooterbug44
02-06-2008, 04:31 PM
I can see the logic of wanting questions to be from participants rather than the press, but Rove not allowing press to openly ask questions is standard operating procedure. :roll:

Pretty silly IMO as Southern Living is not exactly known for their hard hitting political op-eds! :blink:

raven
02-06-2008, 04:47 PM
i'm always curious about people who quell the press. obama and his handlers wouldn't allow the press at any of their early rallies either and i thought it was weird. i realize they're both attacked by the media, but you're an elected official, get over it. i guess the left and the right have plenty in common

TooFarTampa
02-06-2008, 04:50 PM
i'm always curious about people who quell the press. obama and his handlers wouldn't allow the press at any of their early rallies either and i thought it was weird. i realize they're both attacked by the media, but you're an elected official, get over it. i guess the left and the right have plenty in common

This is one of the things that concerns me about Obama. He has not been very available to the press corps at all and I too find it quite curious. I guess when you have Oprah on your side and 60 minutes as a platform you don't need, say, the Kansas City Star, but still. :idontno:

Furthur
02-06-2008, 05:51 PM
De ja there you go again.
Misunderstanding
Taking offense
Striking out.

The crowd burst into applause when the M.C. announced that while negotiating his appearance Mr. Rove stipulated that the event be free and open to the public; and that he would take questions from the audience. But would only take quarries from the press After the event was over.

How Jacksonian is that ?
He didn't want money or the media between him and the people.

The speech was very memorable
Much more emotional then reported.
At one point Mr. Rove had tears rolling down both cheeks as did more than a few in the audience.
Someone finally went up and gave him a kleenex..

TooFarTampa
02-06-2008, 05:58 PM
De ja there you go again.
Misunderstanding
Taking offense
Striking out.

The crowd burst into applause when the M.C. announced that while negotiating his appearance Mr. Rove stipulated that the event be free and open to the public; and that he would take questions from the audience. But would only take quarries from the press After the event was over.

How Jacksonian is that ?
He didn't want money or the media between him and the people.

The speech was very memorable
Much more emotional then reported.
At one point Mr. Rove had tears rolling down both cheeks as did more than a few in the audience.
Someone finally went up and gave him a kleenex..

If he did in fact offer to take questions from the press afterward and followed through, there is nothing unfair about that, you are right. That is not what the story says however. :scratch:

aleonard
02-06-2008, 06:32 PM
If he did in fact offer to take questions from the press afterward and followed through, there is nothing unfair about that, you are right. That is not what the story says however. :scratch:

I agree. Nor, did any other writer I spoke with about the event say that. I'm sure if Chris had heard that or the other writers they would have stuck around to ask him a few questions. :cool: I wouldn't attend an event like that and not stick around to get a quote from the speaker themselves, if they offered it, nor do I know any other writer that wouldn't do the same.

rapunzel
02-06-2008, 07:39 PM
i'm always curious about people who quell the press. obama and his handlers wouldn't allow the press at any of their early rallies either and i thought it was weird. i realize they're both attacked by the media, but you're an elected official, get over it. i guess the left and the right have plenty in common

Please cite a reference on this one. I'm fairly certain no candidate ever turns down free press about a rally.

TooFarTampa
02-06-2008, 07:54 PM
Here's the story I read last week Punzy. I found it interesting and would like to hear your thoughts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/27/AR2008012702160.html

Furthur
02-07-2008, 02:09 PM
The "reporter" has deliberately misconstrued the situation.
The conditions were clearly stated at the outset.
When he asked a question anyway, Mr. Rove reminded him that he would talk with the media AFTER the event.
Again the audience clapped in approval.

The fact that The Herald didn't print a word about the speech speaks volumes about them.
Pretty Pathetic.

aleonard
02-07-2008, 02:20 PM
The "reporter" has deliberately misconstrued the situation.
The fact that The Herald didn't print a word about the speech speaks volumes about them.
Pretty Pathetic.

I cannot speak for the Editor but I am sure if you write him a letter he will be happy to respond if any writer who works for him misconstrues anything. I have responded to you in a very positive and civil manner. I would appreciate the same.:wave:

Furthur
02-07-2008, 04:03 PM
Whether you agree with him or not Karl Rove is a political superstar of the highest magnitude. That the local paper didn't cover his event is pathetic and a disservice to the community.
The hard working folks who produced the Chautauqua Assembly also deserved better coverage for their efforts at diversity.
Everyone who was there knew what the ground rules were.
That this media person (whomever it was) chose to ignore them and then try to make Mr. Rove look bad goes against all of the facts.
It just demonstrates why people are wary of the media.

Pumpkin-22
02-13-2008, 12:19 PM
Chris Mitchell, president of the Chautauqua, told the writer he thought the article was good.