Gauranteed 100% Repub vote

[Bob]

http://www.reuters.com/article/peopleNews/idUSN2751307620071127 This will bring out the vote for the opposition?

[wrobert]

http://www.reuters.com/article/peopleNews/idUSN2751307620071127 This will bring out the vote for the opposition?


Now if only Hanoi Jane would endorse.......

[30A Skunkape]

The conventional wisdom is that GOPers are not going to turn out in 2008. Stay tuned...http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn/cnnyoutube_debate_mostwatched_so_far_71909.asp

[wrobert]

The conventional wisdom is that GOPers are not going to turn out in 2008. Stay tuned...http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn/cnnyoutube_debate_mostwatched_so_far_71909.asp


That is why we want Hillary to be the democratic nominee. She has a way of bringing us all together in a common cause. :D abh

[John R]

Perfect, Yentl goes to Washington.

[30A Skunkape]

Perfect, Yentl goes to Washington.

And in typical Clinton fashion, it is all calculated and phony.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/29/how-that-streisand-endorsement-came-about-hint-not-like-buttah/

[hnooe]

Yes, these Candidates need to seriously look at the company they keep! Obama has Oprah on his coat tails, Clinton now has Barbra on his coat tails...and on the Republican side..Huckabee Finn has .....uh, ..Chuck Norris?$#* Yes, each party has their "base," and some are "baser" than others....

[hnooe]

Yes, these Candidates need to seriously look at the company they keep! Obama has Oprah on his coat tails, Clinton now has Barbra on his coat tails...and on the Republican side..Huckabee Finn has .....uh, ..Chuck Norris?$#* Yes, each party has their "base," and some are "baser" than others....


Please contribute today, and lets pretend the last 7 years never happened.....HillaryClinton.com - Welcome (http://www.hillaryclinton.com/?splash=1)
:welcome:

[30A Skunkape]

Please contribute today, and lets pretend the last 7 years never happened.....HillaryClinton.com - Welcome (http://www.hillaryclinton.com/?splash=1)
:welcome:

I agree that it would be nice for Hillary to leave the Senate but electing her President is a little extreme in trying to forget the last 7 years:wave:;-)

[rehdrahk]

Forget the last 7 years?

How about the 8 before that?

December 16, 1998
Web posted at: 8:51 p.m. EST (0151 GMT) WASHINGTON (CNN) -- From the Oval Office, President Clinton told the nation Wednesday evening why he ordered new military strikes (http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/attack.jpg) against Iraq (http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/iraq.baghdad.lg.jpg).
The president said Iraq's refusal to cooperate with U.N. weapons inspectors presented a threat to the entire world.
"Saddam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons," Clinton said.


http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/


How about we try something new and try to forget about the last 20 years ... open your eyes, a vote for Hillary is the same as a vote for the status quo ...

[hnooe]

Forget the last 7 years?

How about the 8 before that?

December 16, 1998
Web posted at: 8:51 p.m. EST (0151 GMT) WASHINGTON (CNN) -- From the Oval Office, President Clinton told the nation Wednesday evening why he ordered new military strikes (http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/attack.jpg) against Iraq (http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/iraq.baghdad.lg.jpg).
The president said Iraq's refusal to cooperate with U.N. weapons inspectors presented a threat to the entire world.
"Saddam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons," Clinton said.


http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/


How about we try something new and try to forget about the last 20 years ... open your eyes, a vote for Hillary is the same as a vote for the status quo ...


There is a big difference between acknowedging a growing threat with an insane dictatorial regime that needs to be delt with(circa 1998)...and then dealing with it in a totally "half a_ _ way" (circa "Mission Accomplished.").

[30A Skunkape]

There is a big difference between acknowedging a growing threat with an insane dictatorial regime that needs to be delt with(circa 1998)...and then dealing with it in a totally "half a_ _ way" (circa "Mission Accomplished.").

So you are saying you support Hillary even though she supported "half a_ _" intervention? I don't get it.

[elgordoboy]

So you are saying you support Hillary even though she supported "half a_ _" intervention? I don't get it.
Every candidate in the race is guilty of political expediency and pandering. Now as the surge goes well and if Iraq is made a Utopia (not gonna happen) all will be saying "see that's why I was for it from the start". Support Hillary, support Nitwit Romney, Giuliani, Obama---your guy is as bent as my guy or gal these days. No one with a serious chance can maintain a stance--the media and hence the voting public won't allow it.

[Smiling JOe]

There is a big difference between acknowedging a growing threat with an insane dictatorial regime that needs to be delt with(circa 1998)...and then dealing with it in a totally "half a_ _ way" (circa "Mission Accomplished.").Personally, I don't like Hillary or Bush, but I will point out that you are using a news flash taken out of context when you quote the "mission accomplished." Go look up the full story and you will see that the Navy ship had just completed a two year mission at sea and had just returned home. In that speech on that ship, Bush stressed the point that this war would be fought for a long time to come. Again, the mission of the crew of that Navy ship was completed, hence the sign.

I agree with rehdrahk about Clinton fully believing that Saddam needed to be taken out. Go listen to his speech from Dec 1998. That is why I think it is such a twist for Hillary to be against the war. Bill's time in office should have taught her better.

I saw an interview last night, with pretty boy what's his name with the I-grew-up-the-son-of-a-poor-man talk(?). He was one who voted to send our troops to war, then voted again for the bill, stuffed full of pork with billions of dollars, for emergency funding of the troops, when over $20 billion of that funding went to pork spending non-military and non-emergency related. Then, last night, he had the nerve to say that he would pull the all of the combat troops out within one year, leaving enough to protect the embassy. I guess he'll probably leave Blackwater (non-combat troops) over there spending billions more. It is the same old dirty bath water. No decent person wants to be President, so that leaves us with all of the crooks, one no better than the other, though some might be worse.

[30abob]

Personally, I don't like Hillary or Bush...

I'll throw my straw hat in the needle stack.

Ditto... to the politics of either one! I don't know them personally but based on the public "personality" of each I don't think I'd be close friends with them if given the chance.

I'll be a man and admit I voted for "W" twice.:blink: Although I now know that I don't like the results of his presidency I can't say I'd go back and change my vote. Gore and Kerry scared me worse than Bush, the scariest thing about Bush is that he may die and leave the launch codes with Dick.:shock:

I don't have any party's logo stamped on me. But if I had to pick the party that I feel the most affinity with it would be the Libertarian Party. The basic fundamental libertarian view that I'm drawn to the most is FREEDOM. You don't hear much talk about that from either of the main parties. Most of the positions they take are predictable and tired.

I guess at this point in my life I'm wise enough to know that I DON'T know everything and probably won't. I'm not a political activist by any means but I do study the issues and each candidate's position/accumen on; the economy, domestic and foreign policies, and national security. I don't put much weight on social issues, at least the moral ones, I don't think the president should be chosen because he's the guy or gal that thinks the most like me! Boy, how screwed up would this place be then.

I do think there have been some "decent people" who have run for the presidency and won... it was just a long time ago. I think the current political system makes it very difficult to be a decent person, with unwavering convictions, and be a truly successful "politician." It's so rare that we even see someone who actually knows what they believe and has the ability to communicate it that we think they're "crazy" because they're so different.

Most of America treats the election of our president like a horse race; some bet it all on one, some hedge by betting on the top three or four, others don't know enough or care enough to get involved at all. Of course then there's the guy (John Q. Taxpayer) who has to clean the crap off the track when it's all over!:eek:

[Smiling JOe]

Now that you mention Dick, it was Bill Clinton who awarded the contractor jobs to Halliburton's CEO, Dick Cheney. Don't think for a second that the thoughts of these crooks vary greatly.

[Smiling JOe]

"Most of America treats the election of our president like a horse race;"


It might be more fun to watch if we all had bets on it, but when I bet money, I usually lose. No matter who I'd bet on, I'd still lose, even if I won.

[30abob]

No matter who I'd bet on, I'd still lose, even if I won.

Sounds like we went to the same school of chance.;-)

[seacrestkristi]

"People...people who need people...ARE THE LUCKIEST PEOPLE in the world." :biggrin: http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-10/25767207.jpg :wub:

[Miss Kitty]

"People...people who need people...ARE THE LUCKIEST PEOPLE in the world." :biggrin: http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-10/25767207.jpg :wub:

I think I'd listen to your avatar before I'd listen to Babs when it comes to politics. :wave:

[Bob]

can someone photoshop in a pointy hat, and broomhandle?

[hnooe]

So you are saying you support Hillary even though she supported "half a_ _" intervention? I don't get it.

I really don't think Hillary supported the neo con "brain trust" behind Mr. Bush's war and its EXECUTION...ie., Cheney, Rumsfeld, Haliburton, Black Water, and on and on.....she was duped like we all were at first, and felt there was a real, imminent threat. Even the very believable, honorable Colin Powell, was force fed scripted, incorrect information that he had to deliver in the now famous speech to the U.N., which set the ground work for Bush's War.

You can fool "most of the people most of the time" if you work it right!

[30A Skunkape]

I really don't think Hillary supported the neo con "brain trust" behind Mr. Bush's war and its EXECUTION...ie., Cheney, Rumsfeld, Haliburton, Black Water, and on and on.....she was duped like we all were at first, and felt there was a real, imminent threat. Even the very believable, honorable Colin Powell, was force fed scripted, incorrect information that he had to deliver in the now famous speech to the U.N., which set the ground work for Bush's War.

You can fool "most of the people most of the time" if you work it right!

Ah yes, the smartest woman in America was duped by the dumbest President ever. Reason enough to never consider voting for her. Why not support Kucinich? He was never tricked by those rascally neocons.

[Smiling JOe]

I really don't think Hillary supported the neo con "brain trust" behind Mr. Bush's war and its EXECUTION...ie., Cheney, Rumsfeld, Haliburton, Black Water, and on and on.....she was duped like we all were at first, and felt there was a real, imminent threat. Even the very believable, honorable Colin Powell, was force fed scripted, incorrect information that he had to deliver in the now famous speech to the U.N., which set the ground work for Bush's War.

You can fool "most of the people most of the time" if you work it right!I will simply point out the fact that Bill Clinton was the President who shifted US military jobs to contractors, including Haliburton, which was ran by none other than, you guessed it, Dick Cheney. Remember what the Hillary fans say, "A vote for Hillary is a vote for Bill." The only reason so many of the Dems were against the war, was because their own friends were not the ones being rewarded. I will also add that Bill sent our troops to battle in Iraq when he was President, nothing on the scale of Bush, but still...

Please remove the blinders. All of them are basically in the same boat, the only difference is the length of their paddles.

[raven]

I really don't think Hillary supported the neo con "brain trust" behind Mr. Bush's war and its EXECUTION...ie., Cheney, Rumsfeld, Haliburton, Black Water, and on and on.....she was duped like we all were at first, and felt there was a real, imminent threat. Even the very believable, honorable Colin Powell, was force fed scripted, incorrect information that he had to deliver in the now famous speech to the U.N., which set the ground work for Bush's War.

You can fool "most of the people most of the time" if you work it right!

sheeple who need sheeple are the e kind of people who just love streisand...no thinkers need apply!

[Smiling JOe]

Bush chose the war contractors as his dear friends and Hillary will be taking good care of her friends when she gives healthcare contracts to them. I like to call them crooks since they are taking my money and giving it to their friends, all while charging excess prices and having ZERO competition.