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Smiling JOe
11-27-2007, 11:21 AM
So this news is 10 days old, but this morning, it was on the local news that Allstate tried to push through a huge increase in Florida Homeowners' Insurance. In some cases, policy holders could see as much as 150% increase :blink: in rates, and on the low end, some may increase only 6%.

Source: Florida Office of Insurance Regulation

"Our action is based on a thorough review of the information previously provided by the companies and their testimony at the hearing," said Insurance Commissioner Kevin McCarty. "The rates proposed by the Allstate companies do not pass along all the savings reasonably available as a result of the expansion of the Florida Hurricane Catastrophe Fund."


Special legislation, adopted in January, made lower-priced reinsurance available to insurers.


"It was the intent of Gov. Crist and the Florida Legislature that the
lower-priced reinsurance would enable insurance companies to pass along significant savings to their policyholders," McCarty added.


Reinsurance is the insurance that companies buy to cover large losses.


Allstate now may petition the OIR for an administrative hearing through the Division of Administrative Hearings. In the meantime, homeowners' insurance rates previously submitted by the Allstate companies will remain in effect until the process is concluded:


* Allstate Floridian Insurance Co.: -14.2 percent
* Allstate Floridian Indemnity Co.: -13.2 percent
* Encompass Floridian Insurance Co.: -13.0 percent
* Encompass Floridian Insurance Co.: -12.3 percent (Dwelling Fire)
* Encompass Floridian Indemnity Company: -11.2 percent


The decision to deny the rate increases followed a public hearing on Nov. 15 in which the OIR questioned various aspects of the rate filings.


The Commissioner has the authority to hold a public hearing to question a company about its filing pursuant to Florida law. Florida law requires the OIR to hold a public hearing for rate increase filings exceeding a statewide average of 15 percent.
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(from www.sun-sentinel.com (http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2007/11/17/3102936.htm))
"Allstate Floridian has dropped roughly 321,000 customers since it began shedding policies in 2005. Shores would not say whether the state's rejection of the proposed rate increase would prompt another round of customers losing their coverage."



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Speaking of insurance policies, I am still hearing reports of companies giving out notices of non-renewal.

TooFarTampa
11-27-2007, 11:25 AM
I believe the issue was that Allstate's rates were based on a risk model not approved by the state. :angry: So the state shot them down. I read somewhere that Allstate wanted to collect enough money to plan for two Andrews a year.

And this would just be Allstate Floridian. :angry:

Here, I found the link. :pissed:

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/11/16/Business/State_grills_Allstate.shtml

Beach Runner
11-27-2007, 12:59 PM
When we built our house, I was told that Allstate didn't insure in Florida.:idontno: I assume that if they do, it's dependent on how close you are to the beach?

Smiling JOe
11-27-2007, 01:03 PM
BR, not sure when you bought, but All-state, Nationswide, and StateFarm were not issuing policies within .5 miles from the Gulf for a long time, and now, I think StateFarm moved that even farther inland to 5,000 ft from the Gulf, almost one mile. The other two probably followed suit.

Beach Runner
11-27-2007, 01:10 PM
The house was finished in November 2002.

Bob
11-27-2007, 01:15 PM
its gotten to the point that self insurance works if you don't have a mortgage

30A Skunkape
11-27-2007, 01:27 PM
This is as good a time as any to drop Allstate if they insure your car:moon:
Allstate and State Farm make me want to hammer nails. After Katrina they obstructed, denied, stalled and low-balled claims as long as they could. I will never willingly do business with either.

Smiling JOe
11-27-2007, 01:33 PM
Skunky, who would you use for your auto insurance company?

For years, these companies have been trying to get customers to be loyal, but just file for a claim, and see how they don't want you anymore. It is all business, I know, but it stinks to high heaven.

30A Skunkape
11-27-2007, 02:00 PM
Skunky, who would you use for your auto insurance company?

For years, these companies have been trying to get customers to be loyal, but just file for a claim, and see how they don't want you anymore. It is all business, I know, but it stinks to high heaven.

I guess GEICO, Progressive, AAA, Liberty Mutual or any other that didn't obviously attempt to defraud homeowners who religiously paid premiums for years.

TooFarTampa
11-27-2007, 02:13 PM
I guess GEICO, Progressive, AAA, Liberty Mutual or any other that didn't obviously attempt to defraud homeowners who religiously paid premiums for years.

Scratch Liberty Mutual off your list too. I don't know about defrauding customers but they have dumped them in droves. Those commercials? Lies! :pissed:

TreeFrog
11-27-2007, 10:55 PM
For years, these companies have been trying to get customers to be loyal, but just file for a claim, and see how they don't want you anymore. It is all business, I know, but it stinks to high heaven.

Speaking of heaven...

When we all pass over, there will be a special place for CEOs and CFOs of the big insurance companies. It won't do much to help the misery of Katrina victims and the poor folks who have the audacity to file a claim for a car wreck or medical care, but they will pay eventually.