steyou

I'm sorry I missed that.

Walton Outdoors

Woah.... it will be interesting to see how this one plays out. Wonder if it was on "private" property or public County beach access.
Personally, I feel that ANYTHING left on the beach by humans overnight should be considered trash, and whatever happens to it.... well...

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30A Skunkape

Isn't it interesting that our justice corps can nab a turtle loving grandma in 48 hours but as far as I know there still has not been an arrest made in the attempted murder at the Watercolor Publix a month ago?

Low hanging fruit, I guess.

As SHELLY opined earlier, I hope this serves as a catalyst to eliminate the refugee camps littering the beaches.

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Arkiehawg

You actually believe that there is a comparison to taking law into their own hands between a nut case radical who murder a physician and a local who is tired of turdist who leave crap on the beach?

Pahleeesssseee

wrobert

Maybe you should go back and start reading again, because many, whom I use to have at least a slight level of respect for, were applauding lawlessness. And breaking the law is breaking the law, just a matter of degrees. I find the comments made deeply disturbing, but not surprising, as the liberals who claim to care for others have shown their true colors.

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wrobert

I understand there is a video.

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Lynnie

Consistent Inconsistencies.

I'll bet the video is all-telling, which is unfortunate for Mary because it sounds like from this thread/appears that her intentions were in the right place. And, hopefully, this will be the catalyst to enforce keeping our beaches clean every night!

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SHELLY

...you're assuming that those who you had "at least a slight level of respect for" would give a rat's rectum what you think about their views--glad to know that "I" didn't disappoint ya

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30A Skunkape

If it is damning evidence I hope the judge does the right thing and sentences her to many hours of community service, specifically removing crap from the beach!

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Bobby J

Not sure I would assume those that have disappointed you were all liberals.

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Interested Girl

I understand the warrant was issued by Judge Green after reviewing the evidence. Regardless of the chain of events she is innocent until proven guilty in Court. Let's at least all agree on that.
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Lynnie

I agree! I would also be willing to bet that if there wasn't a video involved she wouldn't have been arrested!

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Smiling JOe

Finally, another fan of Edward Abbey's work.

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closer2fine

Wait, I thought this was about crap left on the beach ILLEGALLY overnight (signs are everywhere - leave it, you lose it) potentially harming turtles.

How is getting rid of the beach trash harming unborn human beings?

steyou

C2F- Getting rid of beach debris has nothing to do with harming unborn children. I think you know what comparison she was making. If not, you are not thinking.

Interested Girl

Darn those cellphones with video capability. They can catch people in the most embarassing acts.

closer2fine

It was my attempt at sarcasm. Comparing destruction of property (that should have already been removed according to the signs at the beach) to murdering someone (for doing something that is legal) is comparing apples to bowling balls. What I should have replied with was:

LuciferSam

I'm disturbed by the attitudes of the people who approve of this.

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SHELLY

...and I'm disturbed by the attitudes of the people who think leaving junk all over the beach is OK--so I guess it's a wash.



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ShallowsNole

Too bad nobody that witnessed the hit and run at Publix had one, or people who think they know law enforcement's job better than law enforcement does wouldn't be needing to stretch facts to make comparisons. Sometimes useful facts are real handy.

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Minnie

There is no one participating in this thread, that has even come close to stating they approve of leaving junk all over the beach.

However I think we can say that some, appeared to support the breaking of the law to make a point.

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LuciferSam

Understood. But you should understand that there are people who agree with you on that but also have the maturity and wisdom to denounce this kind of behavior.

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aggieb

this is getting good.



just think this wouldn't have even happened if these people would have just picked their things up and taken them with them. all of this over something so damn simple (by picking it up) but yet so damn hard (for people that don't give a sh!t). blows my mind.

wrobert

They just do not realize it yet.

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scooterbug44

Which law am I advocating breaking? IMO all this lady did is ENFORCE our local ordinance - I believe it is #2003-7B - that any items left on the beach will be confiscated!!!

Or perhaps as a turtle watch volunteer she was more focused on the Endangered Species Act?

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wrobert

I read about a study the other day talking about no matter how you raise your kid, they are going to follow the parent's actions more than anything else. Children are our future, and look what you guys have gone and done to them. Now I am going to have to pay for even more prisons.

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Interested Girl

As a Turtle Watch volunteer she has totally embarassed the organization, IMO. I once upon a time respected the dedication of the TW volunteers, but the actions of the individual, if true as reported, cast a new light on the organization if they condone such actions.

wrobert

The lady has no authority to enforce that ordinance. Now I am going back to watching Death Wish.

BTW, Turtle Watch gets $80K a year in tax dollars to do that turtle monitoring thing.

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wrobert

Environmental terrorist should be sent straight to Gitmo. Or that other place where we give them $200 million to go. Maybe she is on to something.

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LuciferSam

Simple fact is that people having fun on the beach make mistakes and simply forget things. People do give a sh!t about thier belongings. It's not done out of malice.

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Minnie

If she broke no laws then a court of law will decide that. But when many were applauding her actions, she had been arrested for breaking the law.

To me and obviously others on this thread that gives the impression that one is supporting the breaking of the law of criminal mischief.

If you are simply supporting her removal of items on the beach then we are in total agreement, if you are applauding her means of doing that by commiting criminal mischief, then we don't agree and obviously neither did law enforcement.

I seriously doubt she would have been arrested, and booked had she simply been trying to support clean beaches.

I support keeping the beach clean, I support safe haven for the turtles, I do not support breaking the law to make a point or taking the law into one's own hands.

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SHELLY

So what is anyone doing this year to start ridding the beach of this overnight junk other than saying "isn't it a shame--why don't 'they' do something about it?"

The "rules and laws" didn't work; the "24-hour ticketing" program was a farce; now the lawyers moved in with their cease and desist orders to removing the junk. Call it what you will, but the situation is getting worse year-by-year-by-year, and now someone took action (others have too--they just didn't get caught).

I can sense her frustration at the local officials, who, without a ball between them, let this situation get to the point where rational, caring people crack. I stand by my assessment of this lady's actions....with her rage akin to "driving the moneychangers out of the temple"...she's reached her level of pissativity. If she decides to do it again, I'd be proud to be in her posse.

NOTE TO CLUELESS, SELFISH OR UNINFORMED (check one that applies) FOLKS WHO LEAVE THEIR JUNK ON THE BEACH OVERNIGHT: Remove it.

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Smiling JOe

Are you referring to the people who destroy the environment by leaving their crap all over the beach, potentially causing damage?

I'm still wondering what will happen to my tents, chairs, cooler, shovel, along with personal items, if I set them up on the lawn of the Walton County Court House. I bet the cops would have them removed pronto.

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Smiling JOe

Sure, Geo reminded us a while back that people can get distracted and totally forget about their possessions (for short periods of time). HOWEVER, it seems that too many people conveniently "forget" about all of their crap for the entire length of their vacation, and that is unacceptable in my opinion. If you give a crap about your crap, take it home with you when you leave the beach for the day. I don't go to your home and leave my crap in your backyard, so please don't do it when you come to mine.

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wrobert

And you know that is public property. And you want ALL of the beach to be public property. But again, you leave out the part to your position that involves STEALING private property from someone who has paid for it and is currently paying taxes on it. And then cheer someone for going onto their land and destroying private possessions.

I just want the tourist that visit this area to understand that thankfully, local law enforcement is not like that. They do not condone the stealing of property or the criminal mischief to private possessions, and will arrest people more likely than not broke the law. So do not fear, the property destroyers are still being held in check.

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LuciferSam

Huh? You've never met this person, you have no idea of her character, you don't know if she's trustworthy. You know nothing of her intelligence her judgement but you'd be willing to join forces with her based on acts of what I would call vandalism. I think you're moving too quickly.

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Smiling JOe

wrobert, you are making assumptions, one being that people don't leave their beach crap on public beaches. Secondly, I don't recall cheering anyone on in this thread.

Seems that the law enforcement didn't have a problem removing tourists from the beach, but it when it comes to removing tourists beach crap, suddenly there is a problem. Go figure.

Lastly, if I'm walking on the beach at night and I fall into a canopy frame after tripping over the guidewire to said canopy, thereby crushing the leg of the tent, am I going to be hauled to jail? I've done just that, and it hurt like a mo-fo.

People, remove your crap daily.

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SHELLY

I'm not planning on bringing her home to Momma...I'd just like to assist in the removal of the nighttime crap & scrap from the beach.

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HeyJude

A question for all of those that condone what the person arrested did or are...gulp...alluding that what was done was "heroic" in some way ... why is this individual denying that they did it? By denying it, unless they really didn't do it, it is telling me they KNEW it was breaking the law....that is was "wrong".

SHELLY

.......remember when Superman did some good deed and the next day at the Daily Planet office Lois Lane would look kinda sideways at Clark Kent and talk about what Superman did the night before, and how he saved the day by defeating the bad guys; and Clark Kent would say he "heard" about that; and then Lois would say, "Why is it everytime that Superman is around, you seem to be somewhere else?" and Clark would say, "Gee, Lois, I don't know" and act real modest and humble and never let on that he was really Superman?......well, it's like that.

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LuciferSam

More likely:

Anger, rage, wants attention, SNAP!

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seagrovegirl

Yes....ask Foles.

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seagrovegirl

Bobby J.....does the name Mary Elizabeth ring a bell??? Look at the picture of her closely. Get Romeo on the phone!!!!!

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Mango

That would be your fault. I'm only five years into the rental/ tourist business and as an owner; I make every attempt to show pride of ownership which is felt by my renters; in addition to trying to make their vacations as memorable as possible, I try very hard to educate them on the delicate ecosystem, turtle nesting, and removing items from the beach. By the time they get to my house, they feel like it is theirs, and it is theirs for the week or so, and so is the beach, and they have shown great respect. It takes some more of my time, but pays off in spades. Some vacationers have never visited the area and have no knowledge of the delicate treasures we possess; dune lakes and such.

It is our job as stewards of our property and surrounding lands to ensure that people are educated, if they aren't already. Of course, there are always some bad apples, but when a grandmother/ turtle watcher goes into a rage and breaks the law, WE, as a community, in large part should bear some responsibility. We let her down.

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Mango

This is laughable to me since, if I recall correctly, there was a Republican rally locally that had a pinata of Obama's head that was bashed in front of children. Do you condone bashing an effigy vs. the illegal tear down of inanimate objects left illegally on a beach? I also do not see anything in the article stating she did this is front of her children or grandchildren.

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aleonard

Wow. Pinata's, fetuses, and floaties in one thread. WTH????

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LuciferSam

I think it's more the fact that adults shouldn't be condoning this kind of behavior, and obviously some on this thread are.

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LuciferSam

Really, who died and made her queen?

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Lynnie

Bless her heart, suddenly she's famous! I do believe she took her volunteerism seriously, but she did vandalize personal property. I don't think any of us want to see people leave items on the beach overnight particularly during turtle season.

Lots of lessons in this one!!

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