Updates about Northwest Florida Beaches International Airport (NWFBIA) - Page 2

SHELLY · #**101** 06-20-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Busta Hustle

And you think a measly 1/2 cent bed tax increase will get them here?

...not Southwest--but I'd bet the farm that there's a place for Odom's Fly-By-Night Airways

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singinchicken · #**102** 06-21-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SHELLY

Surprisingly, he made no mention of opening up full service to a new hub at THE™ Beach Airport.

Southwest does not operate on the hub and spoke principal. The closest thing they have to a hub is Dallas only because that's where they are based. All of their service is point to point with no luggage agreements with other air lines.

Of all the theories of new service to the airport, Southwest makes the most sense. They have low overhead and serve an area of the country that does not have direct access to NW Fla without connecting. If they come, look for two or three flights a day to start with, but considering the fact that there are so many empty seats flying into PC, it may be a while before we see any big changes...

beachmouse · #**103** 06-21-2009, 05:20 PM

The one discount airline that might be a good fit for PCB, provided the local hotels and condo management firms play nice, is Allegiant Air, which specializes in low cost airfare plus hotel packages.

Discount Flights and Vacation Packages | Airfare & Hotel Packages from Allegiant Air

I hadn't heard of them until parents recently mentioned that they could now get a super cheap direct flight with them from Grand Rapids to either Las Vegas or Orlando, but it seems like PCB would work well with their existing business model.

goodwitch58 · #**104** 06-21-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by beachmouse

The one discount airline that might be a good fit for PCB, provided the local hotels and condo management firms play nice, is Allegiant Air, which specializes in low cost airfare plus hotel packages.

Discount Flights and Vacation Packages | Airfare & Hotel Packages from Allegiant Air

I hadn't heard of them until parents recently mentioned that they could now get a super cheap direct flight with them from Grand Rapids to either Las Vegas or Orlando, but it seems like PCB would work well with their existing business model.

Do you suppose the people at The Beach know about them yet?

beachmouse · #**105** 06-21-2009, 07:44 PM

Probably not considering the general lack of vision at Coastal Vision and other such organizations.

goodwitch58 · #**106** 06-21-2009, 09:23 PM

yeah...

kurt · #**107** 06-22-2009, 07:57 AM

Terminal building photos:

kurt · #**108** 06-22-2009, 08:00 AM

http://www.newsherald.com/news/west-...rport-bay.html

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The new airport under construction near West Bay is proceeding on schedule and should be completed by the May 2010 target date, airport officials said Friday.

Jeff Dealy of KBR, program manager for the relocation project, said he was more worried about getting the various agency occupants moved onto the complex in a timely fashion.

"That would be our one hiccup," Dealy said. He was referring to the different agencies slated to move into the new terminal structure, including the Transportation Security Adminstration, U.S. Customs and Border Protection and various car rental firms and air carriers.

"Everyone is up to date, but there is still some work to be done," he said.

Space also is being allocated for a Bay County Chamber of Commerce Business Center and the Bay County Tourist Development Council, said Randy Curtis, executive director of the Panama City-Bay County International Airport, which is moving its operations to the new site.

The 8,400-foot runway is now 100-percent complete, and construction teams are awaiting FAA approval before extending it to 10,000 feet. Once approval is gained, the extension should take about two months to complete, officials said.

The 120,000-square-foot airport terminal, more than twice as large as the current structure in Panama City, is now about a third complete, Curtis said. The $62.8 million terminal complex always has been seen as the heart of the new $318 million airport taking shape near West Bay. The old terminal was only about 57,000 square feet, Curtis said.

"They are getting pretty close, about two-thirds, to at least having everything under a roof," he said.

Curtis said the new terminal complex will not only consist of the main terminal and a 147-foot air traffic control tower, but will host a public safety building, a maintenance building, a cargo building and a rental car area.

"We are all moving toward that May date," Curtis said.

On its first floor, the main terminal will house a ticket area for airlines, space for five rental car agencies, a baggage claim area with three conveyer belts, a restaurant and a gift shop with newsstand, Curtis said.

The upper level will consist of the passenger boarding area, airport administration offices, a second restaurant and a lounge area dedicated for the military.

One of the main goals of the new airport has been to "make it more efficient for processing both baggage and passengers," Curtis said.

SHELLY · #**109** 06-22-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kurt

Jeff Dealy of KBR, program manager for the relocation project, said he was more worried about getting the various agency occupants moved onto the complex in a timely fashion.

"That would be our one hiccup," Dealy said. He was referring to the different agencies slated to move into the new terminal structure, including the Transportation Security Adminstration, U.S. Customs and Border Protection and various car rental firms and air carriers.

That's one big-arse hiccup there Jeff.

Suggest they pack all the office junk, food prep stuff and candy/gum from newsstand into one aircraft and fly over from Panama City Airport; and then have all the people pack up their personal desk items and plants in a cardboard box and just drive over in rental cars..problem solved. My bill for consultation services will be in the mail tomorrow.

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scooterbug44 · #**110** 06-22-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by singinchicken

Southwest does not operate on the hub and spoke principal. The closest thing they have to a hub is Dallas only because that's where they are based. All of their service is point to point with no luggage agreements with other air lines.

Of all the theories of new service to the airport, Southwest makes the most sense. They have low overhead and serve an area of the country that does not have direct access to NW Fla without connecting. If they come, look for two or three flights a day to start with, but considering the fact that there are so many empty seats flying into PC, it may be a while before we see any big changes...

I flew into PC for the first time Sunday - stretched out across 2 seats in an exit row. First time I have been able to do that in a long time. Every flight I take in/out of VPS and other airports is completely full - often w/ a standby list.

The new airport seems to be progressing well, but IMO the demand is not yet there by a long shot.

BeachSiO2 · #**111** 06-22-2009, 02:10 PM

I choose not to fly into PC due to the airport location and traffic. Flying into PC you have to drive through the Thomas Drive/PCB area and typically have a longer, more frustrating, post-arrival drive time. It is my understanding that those two issues will likely be reduced when the airport is built and thus I will likely choose not to go to VPS anymore and take on Niceville/Destin (if ticket prices are relatively close). I wonder how many people will switch like me.

scooterbug44 · #**112** 06-22-2009, 02:18 PM

I find it rather telling that I have lived here for years and this was the first time I (or anyone in my family) flew into PC - cost/schedule was never better than VPS or Pensacola and the only reason I did it this time was because I hitched a ride outbound on a friend's plane (and you can't do that from VPS).

IF (and they're big ifs) the new airport has a better prices/schedules I could see flying out of PC, but realistically believe the Scootermobile will be heading west for air travel for many years to come.

BeachSiO2 · #**113** 06-22-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by scooterbug44

I find it rather telling that I have lived here for years and this was the first time I (or anyone in my family) flew into PC - cost/schedule was never better than VPS or Pensacola and the only reason I did it this time was because I hitched a ride outbound on a friend's plane (and you can't do that from VPS).

IF (and they're big ifs) the new airport has a better prices/schedules I could see flying out of PC, but realistically believe the Scootermobile will be heading west for air travel for many years to come.

I agree, it always comes down to cost, but I do know of one time this year when it was cheaper to go to PC and the schedules were roughly the same. I wonder if things will change on pricing. Maybe SinginChicken will let us know since I have flown numerous legs on his airline this year and it will continue to be my likely choice in the future.

rheffron · #**114** 06-22-2009, 07:07 PM

Not complaining, but I am surprised that the new terminal is not that much larger than the current one.

kurt · #**115** 06-23-2009, 08:42 PM

Restoring Its Trade Status

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When it comes to Panama City’s new airport, Jerry Ray speaks with the passion and conviction of an evangelist. Much like a preacher with a Bible, he’s armed with his own historical perspective.

For instance, the beachside Florida Panhandle hotspot, long popular with spring breakers and summer vacationers, was known as a major port in the early 20th century. Originally called Harrison, it was renamed to connect with the still-new Panama Canal and was convenient to ships from both the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific Ocean.

“They knew all this in 1914 and we have forgotten,” says Ray, senior vice president of strategic alliances with the Jacksonville-based St. Joe Co. He notes that Panama City’s premier port status lasted from 1915 until the 1929 market crash that led to the Great Depression.

Now the city has an opportunity to restore its trade status by way of a new international airport being developed as part of St. Joe’s 75,000-acre West Bay project, which Ray believes will be a national focal point for development over the next 50 to 100 years. The $500-million project is scheduled to finish its first phase in May 2010, with the airport component being built on a 4,000-acre site donated by St. Joe to the Panama City-Bay County Airport Authority.

Already having faced criticism for developing an airport that will be one of Florida’s largest in a metropolitan area with only 164,000 residents, Ray counters that it will reach beyond Bay County to an area known as the “deep Southeast,” encompassing parts of neighboring Alabama and Georgia in addition to the Panhandle within two-and-a-half hours driving time. The first 8,400 feet of the airport’s 10,000-foot runway is already finished and is currently being used by helicopters, though it is ready to accept planes, he says.

“This is planning for the future, rather than remediating the past,” Ray tells Real Estate Florida. He adds that the new airport will be tied to the city’s old seaport in a multimodal grid, sending cargo containers by truck and rail throughout the US.

The airport’s proximity to Tyndall and Eglin Air Force Bases also bolsters the argument that Panama City is the correct location, Ray says. “There’s really only one place it can go,” he says, “and that’s right where it is.”

Ray also promotes the new Panama City International Airport as the nation’s “greenest,” not only in terms of seeking LEED construction certification from the US Green Building Council but creating a conservation buffer around approaches that will make plane noise a non-issue for nearby businesses and residents. The 41,000-acre preservation area will ultimately protect 44 miles of undeveloped shoreline and another 33 miles of creeks and tributaries.

“We have to make economic growth and environmental protection work in concert,” Ray says. He adds that St. Joe consulted with various environmental groups over the past 11 years leading to the airport’s current development.

St. Joe is working with the Haskell Co. and TranSystems Corp. on master planning its land adjacent to the airport, with the first 1,000 acres including a mix of industrial, office and retail. The group’s initial marketing focus will be aerospace, logistics and defense-oriented technology companies.

“We are accelerating our preconstruction activity and stepping up marketing out reach to global users who need ready access to the new airport,” says Britt Green, St. Joe president and CEO. “It’s truly a unique opportunity to be part of one of Florida’s largest mixed-use planning developments.”

Ray says the initial phase of commercial development near the airport will entail 37 million square feet of industrial buildings with either direct or fence access to its tarmac. The mixed-use components of West Bay will be developed in 1,000-acre increments, with the market deciding what is built next, he says.

“Commercial real estate value occurs where there is connectedness,” he says. “If you are feeling constrained at an urban-encroached airport, this is the alternative.”

Steve Halverson, Haskell Co. president and CEO, says West Bay presents exciting prospects for commercial development. “There are very few greenfield opportunities with a strategic location and high-quality access to an airport, a deepwater port, road and rail connections,” he says.

Local real estate agents are positive about the prospects of additional commercial development to be derived from the new airport. “Expected increases in commercial and residential developments are expected to reshape the Panama City area’s economy by increasing the tourism trade, attracting more corporate headquarters and large distribution centers and providing new residential communities,” says Jennifer MacKay of Keller Williams Success Realty.

Ray points out that the biggest challenge for West Bay and the airport will be maintaining flexibility of development in decades to come. “This is a place that is going to have options for the future,” he says, “and that brings about value.”

kurt · #**116** 07-01-2009, 07:58 AM

June 2009 pictures of the air traffic control tower and terminal building now under construction demonstrate further progress at the new airport site.
The facility continues to take shape in anticipation of an expected May 2010 opening.

kurt · #**117** 07-02-2009, 06:26 PM

Large issues unresolved over airport move | airport, issues, unresolved - Local News - WaltonSun.com

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With only 10 months before the planned opening of a new airport near West Bay, a Tuesday meeting of the Airport Authority pointed to a surprising number of unresolved issues still plaguing the airport relocation project.

From the necessity of a crosswind runway to final FAA approval of a main runway extension to reaching a lease agreement with general aviation pilots, the final shape of the new airport still is unclear.

"It's a pretty complex process," airport Executive Director Randy Curtis said. "Though, I don't think there have been any big surprises."

Project relocation manager Jeff Dealy of KBR told authority members that airport construction was on schedule and 61 percent complete. But the airport still had not reached a lease deal with Bay Aircraft Owners Inc., a consortium of private pilots based at the current airport in Panama City, airport attorney Michael Duncan said.

He said negotiations with the pilots' association were still unresolved over how its lease would transfer to the new Panama City-Bay County International Airport, set to open in May 2010.

The group of about 26 Bay Aircraft pilots long has been wrangling with the Airport Authority over the terms of their 30-year lease agreement, which has about 14 years left to run.

Duncan requested the Airport Authority have a special meeting within two weeks to discuss the matter, along with lease problems with Precision Air Services, a company that offers inspections and repairs for most general aviation aircraft. He said mediation with Precision had reached "an impasse."

It also remains unclear whether authority members will build the 5,000-foot crosswind runway, a proposed asphalt strip separate from the main concrete runway that could increase flight safety, a factor crucial to drawing larger carriers.

James Finch of Phoenix Construction Co., which has built the main 8,400-foot runway, told authority members Tuesday he wanted to withdraw from his option to build the crosswind runway, allowing the board to re-bid the project.

The option by Phoenix to build the second runway at the same rate structure as the first has expired. Board members say given the uncertain economy, it remains unclear whether rebidding the project will cost the airport more or less money.

Curtis said Tuesday the reality of a $17 million secondary runway will depend on how other financial considerations "play out" as the airport moves forward.

The airport is also waiting final Federal Aviation Administration approval on extending the 8,400-foot main runway to 10,000 feet, which has long been a goal for the new airport.

Airport Executive Director Randy Curtis said approval is being held until the airport and the Florida Department of Environmental Protection could agree on a final consent order spelling out corrective measures for storm-water discharge violations.

The DEP launched an investigation of the airport's construction after heavy rains in April, claiming noncompliance with construction permits.

On Tuesday, Roy Willett of KBR told board members that DEP was being given weekly progress reports and that825acresofthe1,400-acre construction site was in a state of "final stabilization." Authority Chairman Joe Tannehill requested that all board members receive daily e-mails on the progress.

kurt · #**118** 07-02-2009, 06:28 PM

DEP sets deadline for airport - The News Herald

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The Florida Department of Environmental Protection has set a July 15 deadline for the Airport Authority to agree to corrective measures for stormwater discharge at the new airport construction site, officials said.

Dick Fancher, director of the DEP's Northwest District, said the airport already has taken some curative action since heavy April rains stressed an inadequate drainage system that failed to stem an unhealthy discharge of sediment into nearby creeks.

The consent order will formalize the continued cleanup from the environmental damage caused by the deluge and spell out future action required to prevent another occurrence, he said. The order includes a $299,000 fine.

Some environmental damage has taken place in streams and creeks leading to the waters of West Bay, and the damage must be monitored and corrected, Fancher said. Click here to see photos of the airport's construction.
The illegal discharge has led to a flurry of recriminations from environmental groups, many of which originally opposed the $318 million airport's construction on 1,300 acres near West Bay. The airport is set to open in May 2010.

The latest pressure has come in the form of a letter to DEP from the St. Andrew Bay Resource Management Association (RMA), asking the state agency to "suspend its reliance on self-reporting by the contractor, a process which has eroded public's confidence in your agency's oversight role."

Fancher said the DEP has been reviewing weekly reports on the airport's self-monitoring, insisting that, "We are at the site on a weekly basis."

In the letter to the DEP, RMA president Kennard Watson said that his group was "particularly concerned about potential impacts of the degraded water quality to fragile seagrass beds in West Bay."

Randy Curtis, executive director of the Panama City-Bay County International Airport, said the airport has been working continuously with DEP experts to solve the ongoing discharge problems. The formal consent order, including the amount of the fine, has been under negotiations with the DEP, he said.

"We have received the revised consent order," he said, noting the biggest sticking point has been the amount of the fine.

Curtis said the Airport Authority likely will call a special meeting prior to the July 15 deadline to decide whether to agree to the order's stipulations. If an agreement is not reached, the matter would go through an "administrative hearing" process, he said.

The consent order outlining the airport's environmental problems is the result of a DEP investigation triggered by heavy rains in late March and early April, a period during which the National Weather Service recorded about 14 inches of rain in Panama City.

The DEP issued a proposed consent order May 19 that called for nearly $400,000 in penalties. The airport responded by blaming much of the problems on heavy rains and questioning the fine.

Fancher said the $299,000 in penalties outlined in the current consent order will be assessed on the Airport Authority. Additional fines could be forthcoming on individual contractors such as Phoenix Construction Co., which was responsible for the new airport's site preparation, he said.

kurt · #**119** 07-10-2009, 12:30 AM

Construction Update: 7/2/2009

by NewPFN on July 9, 2009
Contract 1: Heavy Civil and Airfield Lighting
In general, base bid earthwork and Main Access Road are significantly completed. All of the P-403 asphalt base and 99% of the 15″ concrete paving lanes have been placed on 8,500 linear feet of Runway 16-34. On the taxiways and main apron, all lime rock base and the first 2″ lift of P-401 base have been placed.
Approximately 89% of contract is complete with 71% of the contract time used. All interim milestones being met or exceeded.
Production volumes in place are as follows:

All 1330 acres cleared and grubbed.
75,354 tons of asphalt pavement is in place (68% of both airside and landside). Second lift of asphalt is on Taxiway D and Main Apron.
165,860 square yards of landside lime rock base and 130,885 square yards of flightline lime rock base have been installed.
62,272 cubic yards of the 67,233 cubic yards of 15″ concrete runway pavement and 14″ main terminal apron is in place (93% of ultimate volume). Grinding, jointing, and grooving of the runway has been completed. Final presentation of the profilographs is now underway.
99% of the RCP storm sewer installations are complete (43,228 linear feet). 70,262 linear feet of perforated under-drain has been installed along the taxiways and runways (45% of total).
Installation of Pond C filter sands continues. Bottom sands are in place, top sands are now 75%. Testing of sands continues at every 2,000 square yards.
49,654 linear feet of electrical lighting duct bank and lighting conduit has been installed (43% of design quantity) and 99,879 linear feet of counterpoise systems (31% of design). 56 base can plazas, 128 taxiway edge lights, and 348 runway light cans are now complete (35% of design).

There is an average of 97 workers and 150 pieces of equipment on site daily.

Contract 2: Terminal Building, ATCT and Support Buildings
Review of architecturally related features continues. Site inspections by Bay County and internal threshold inspections actively continue and are being tracked in log format.
Approximately 35% of the contract is complete with 43% of the contract time used.
Terminal

100% of the foundations and 98% of the structural concrete elements are now complete.
Structural steel element installation is 80% complete.
Under slab utility rough ins are 92% complete.
Fire protection piping is at 48%.
HVAC is at 20%.
Roofing insulation and membrane underway 20% complete.
Testing for the building is being recorded in a matrix format included within Monthly Material Testing Summary.

Air Traffic Control Tower

The tower is now poured to level 9 (135′ above the pile cap).
During July, the tower floor structures will be completed and ready for cab to be set.

Terminal Support Facilities

Concrete slabs and under slab utilities have been completed.
Masonry wall construction is complete in all buildings but the Public Safety Building where it is 35% complete.
92% of the storm sewer systems are in place.
45% of the site utilities have been completed.

Rental Car Facility

Utilities continue and storm water pipe is now complete.
Pre-engineered metal building is now on site.
Curb and gutter underway.
Building slab and under slab utilities in progress.

An average of 115 personnel are on site daily.
Contract 3: Utility Contract
The contract has been executed and all necessary submittals, insurance and bonds have been received from the Contractor.
On January 13, 2009 a limited Notice To Proceed was issued for the onsite utilities only. The final notice to proceed for remaining offsite work was issued on January 20, 2009.
Approximately 40% of contract work is complete with 46% of the contract time used. All interim milestones are being met or exceeded.
Production volumes in place to date are as follows:
Main Access Road

22,972 lf of 3W2″ power distribution duct bank installed.
30,971 lf of street light duct work installed on west side of main road.
6,849 linear feet of 6Wx4″ concrete encased communication duct bank.

Joyner Road

7,878′ linear feet 24″ water main along Joyner Road.

GA Access Road

19,209 lf of 12″ water main installed from CR-388 north Loop Road and GA Roadway.
7,914 lf. of 30″ water main along GA Road.

Lift Station

The lift station is 45% complete.

Force Main on CR 388
The work is complete.
Fuel Farm

The fuel farm is 15% complete.

Booster Station

The booster station is 20% complete.
16,387 lf. of 8″ sanitary force main completed onsite and along CR-388.
46 fire hydrants installed.

An average of 32 workers and 22 pieces of equipment are on site daily.
Contract 4: Landscape/Hardscape Contract
The contract was executed on June 2, 2009 in the amount of $2,957,056.52. A partial Notice to Proceed was released on June 8, 2009 for the seeding and erosion control measurements only along the Main Access Road and LEED area with a not to exceed amount of $600,000.00.
Production volumes in place to date are as follows:

27 soil samples have been taken and tested for PH and metal content.
Erosion control measures have been installed along the Main Access Road.
Submittals for wildflower seed mixtures are being reviewed for acceptance.

kurt · #**120** 07-15-2009, 02:16 PM

New Airport Puts Panama City on Track for Long-Term Growth

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Most of the country is waiting for the economy to turn, or even for the federal stimulus to have some measurable effect on local economies, but at least one part of the country has a third option. In the Florida panhandle, in particular the Panama City area, a new international airport--under construction, scheduled for completion next year--promises economic stimulation, both in terms of business growth and real estate development.

"A new business community will be able to grow around the new airport in a way that's impossible around the existing airport, which is too small and too hemmed in for further expansion," Randall S. Curtis, executive director of the Panama City-Bay County International Airport, told CPN. "But the long-term impact will involve more than development in the immediate vicinity of the airport. The entire region stands to benefit."

Indeed, the existing smallish airport--two runways, 6,308 feet and 4,884 feet long, on 745 acres--may have been hindering the area's growth while the rest of Florida has expanded mightily. Bay County is still fairly small, experiencing only modest growth in recent years, with its population expanding from about 127,000 in 1990 to 155,000 now, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. Located on a complex of bays (St. Andrews, West, North and East bays) on the Gulf Coast, the area has access to miles of desirable beaches and other natural amenities, but mainly draws vacationers and second-home buyers mainly from the nearby states of Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia.

New airports in other parts of the country, in fact other parts of Florida, also have a history of spurring growth over the long run. The Southwest Florida International Airport opened in Ft. Myers in 1983, and during the 1990s the population of Lee County (county seat, Ft. Myers) grew 31.6 percent, considerably faster than the rest of the state, and the area has continued to grow in the 2000s.

Curtis posited that after larger jets are able to fly into the area, more visitors will start coming from the cities of the Midwest and the Northeast. Ultimately, that may mean not only more vacationers, but more businesspeople with site selection on their minds, and more real estate investors.

The existing main landowner in that part of Florida, St. Joe Co., already stands to benefit enormously from the new airport. Formerly a paper company with vast acreage devoted to growing trees, St. Joe is now a company with vast acreage (about 800,000 acres) to develop. The company was instrumental in realizing the airport project, especially through its donation of the land necessary to build it.

The basic specifications of the $330 million new Panama City-Bay County International Airport include a primary runway of 10,000 feet (expandable to 12,000), a crosswind runway of 5,000 feet and a 120,000-square foot terminal building, occupying 1,300 acres on a 4,000-acre site. That will be the configuration of the airport when it opens next year, anyway. As air traffic increases, there's additional room for another runway the size of the primary one, plus an expanded terminal facility.

Currently, the Airport Authority is negotiating with low-cost air carriers about flying into the new airport, which Curtis calls a key component in spurring future development in the region. Bagging such an airline to fly in and out of the new airport is so important that a small increase in Bay County's bed tax was approved to pay for the effort.

Besides aviation-related facilities, the airport will have about 1,200 acres available for on-site industrial or other commercial development, including sites with direct runway access. "We've gotten the attention of the aerospace industry, for one," said Curtis. "Among other aerospace interests, this part of Florida, centered on Tyndall Air Force Base, is a major center for unmanned vehicle R&D."

The airport itself is only a small part of an entity called the West Bay Sector Plan, a master plan for 75,000 acres along the West Bay just northwest of Panama City that has been in the works for about a decade. Land use for West Bay Sector Plan calls for the ultimate development of about 37 million square feet of commercial property and 27,000 residential units, to be undertaken by a variety of developers. Jones Lang LaSalle has been hired as to oversee development with the West Bay Sector Plan, and is currently in negotiation with a master developer for the properties within the new airport.

Environmentalist opposition to the new airport was relatively mute because of the enormous conservation easements both within the new airport property and as part of the overall West Bay Sector Plan. All together, 41,000 acres of the total of 75,000 acres, including 33 miles of West Bay shoreline and 44 miles of creek and tributaries, will be never be developed.

"The West Bay Plan is a long-term plan that will encourage development in the long run," Janet Watermeier, executive director of the Bay County Economic Development Alliance, told CPN. The economy may be unfavorable to real estate development in the near term, but "when the economy turns, a template for development in Bay County in the area will already be in place."

kurt · #**121** 07-17-2009, 05:40 AM

Southeast Real Estate Business

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Jerry Ray is looking to the future. His firm, the Jacksonville, Florida-based St. Joe Companies, is working with the Bay County Board of Commissioners, officials at the Panama City-Bay County Airport and members of the National Audubon Society on the LEED-certified Panama City-Bay County Airport. The facility is the first piece in the West Bay Sector Plan, a massive mixed-use project destined for Panama City, Florida, and surrounding areas. The aggressive but environmentally responsible development strategy calls for an eventual 27,000 residences and 37 million square feet of commercial and industrial space spread across 75,000 acres.

Though part of the plan may be complete in a few years, the entire project will not materialize for at least half a century. “I will not see it; I am too old,” says Ray, senior vice president of strategic alliances for St. Joe.

The airport is a relocation and expansion of Panama City’s current facility and includes a 105,000-square-foot passenger terminal, two runways and 1,400 acres reserved for future expansion. Completion is expected next May. The airport only represents a small part of St. Joe’s $500 million stake in the West Bay Sector Plan, a commitment that will include 4.4 million square feet of commercial space and 6,300 residences.

St. Joe also brought in leaders from the Audubon Society to conduct land-protection studies around the airport. Their goal was to ultimately protect 44 miles of undeveloped shoreline and creeks and tributaries near the development site. The society also helped make the airport as environmentally friendly as possible; green features include a water reclamation system among and more standard LEED requirements.

“One of our commitments was to put in place a saltwater system that would return water to the environment cleaner than it was in the natural environment. We said we would return it twice as clean, according to scientific measurements,” Rays says. “We want to demonstrate that it is possible to have economic development and environmental preservation simultaneously.”

In large projects like these, extensive planning is important. With the help of Jacksonville-based The Haskell Company and TranSystems Corporation of Kansas City, Missouri, St. Joe is positioning parcels for office, retail and industrial construction. “You look at all the infrastructure — where do the roads go, where do the utilities go, all those types of things,” says Haskell’s Brad Slappey. “You don’t want to commit to something that’s not flexible enough to reverse. You want to be very careful about where your infrastructure goes, so it can accommodate multiple uses down the road.” It’s too early, however, to talk development specifics or even mention future tenants. “There’s certainly interest in the area,” Slappey says. “Any time you have an airport, there’s interest.”

One large advantage of the plan is that it’s easy to build to each tenant’s specifications. With so much greenfield land available for developing, officials at large companies can easily come in, commit to a space and mold it to their requirements. “Most of the time, your options are limited because you have a small piece of land and everything around it is already developed,” Slappey says. “The advantage is that if you have a big user that comes in and wants this, that and the other, it’s easier to accommodate them because you have a lot more land to maneuver around.”

The West Bay Sector plan is a fulfillment of years of history. Development has come slowly to Northwest Florida for a variety of reasons. Commercial space tends to flock to major interstates, and there are few that cut through this portion of the state. In addition, geographical concerns and the rising environmental consciousness of area citizens had limited the county’s commercial real estate growth prospects.

“The land is largely owned by two entities; one is the United States government and other government entities, the other is The St. Joe Company, which began to buy land in this area in 1923,” Ray says. “Between the two, a lot of the land was left in a rural state. This is an area of Florida that’s not been as well connected to the rest of the country.”

Developers and citizens in Panama City realized as early as the 1940s that something needed to be done to compete on a national scale and started calling for an update of the city’s existing municipal airport. “There was a front-page editorial in the Panama City News Herald, and it said if we do not connect ourselves to the rest of the country, we will languish in our economic development,” Ray says. This led to an ultimately unsuccessful effort to rebuild the airport, a dream that resurfaced in the 1960s and again in the ’80s and ’90s. “We had no idea how long it would take. No one had never done this before,” Ray says. “It is a 100-year project. It will correct something that has been a mess now for 50 years.”

An undertaking this large will undoubtedly change many times during the course of development. Starting small and branching out is a smart way to ease into the project. Once the airport is complete, it will attract airport services, which will, in turn, encourage hotel and retail growth. Warehouses, Slappey says, pop up around airports for logistics purposes. “After that, who knows. You start with the obvious, and go from there,” he says. “It’s always hard to get your hands on what it will look like in the end. The reality is that it’s going to change as the years progress.”

Ray is happy developers in Central Florida are finally planning for the next generation of tenants. Long-term projects like the West Bay Sector Plan are where commercial real estate officials should be heading, Ray says.

“We’d make a lot more in this country by planning for the future, and we never do it. We have roads that are clogged up and then we go fix them, right? So, why not try it the right way for once?”

Andy A. · #**122** 07-17-2009, 09:37 AM

Kurt, thank you for the continuous updates on the progress of the new Panama City Airport. They are really appreciated by those of us who believe that long range planning regarding growth is the only way to go.
Do you have anything on the status of the suit brought about storm water drainoff and how it will affect the ongoing status of the project?
It seems to me from all I read about the long range plan, environmetal issues are at the forefront of considerations. But then, I am not an environmental extremist. Once again, thank you for the great updates.

SWGB · #**123** 07-17-2009, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy A.

Kurt, thank you for the continuous updates on the progress of the new Panama City Airport. They are really appreciated by those of us who believe that long range planning regarding growth is the only way to go.
Do you have anything on the status of the suit brought about storm water drainoff and how it will affect the ongoing status of the project?
It seems to me from all I read about the long range plan, environmetal issues are at the forefront of considerations. But then, I am not an environmental extremist. Once again, thank you for the great updates.

IIRC on the news last night they announced that the lawsuit was dismissed, settled, or stopped.

kurt · #**124** 07-25-2009, 08:35 AM

Construction Update: 7/23/2009
Posted: 24 Jul 2009 07:03 AM PDT
Contract 1: Heavy Civil and Airfield Lighting
Approximately 90% of contract is complete with 76% of the contract time used.

Completing the underdrain system in the longitudinal ditches (7,000 linear feet remain and work should be complete by the end of August)
Installation of top sands into Pond C is ongoing
Concrete on main apron should be complete in two weeks
Taxi-way edge lights installation is continuing

Contract 2: Terminal Building, ATCT and Support Buildings
Approximately 40% of the contract is complete with 48% of the contract time used.
Terminal:

Continuing exterior sheathing at north end of Area A
90% complete with roof sheathing and underlayment at Concourse D & E
90% complete with structural steel at Baggage Handling
Preparing for concrete slab pour for south end of Baggage Handling

Air Traffic Control Tower:

Beginning mechanical/electrical and plumbing work
Complete with stairs up through Level 4

Air Maintenance Facility, Air Maintenance Shed:

Continuing interior framing

Air Cargo Facility:

Continuing with the installation of exterior wall panels

Rental Car Facility:

Continuing with plumbing and electrical rough-in
Settling tanks for Car Wash in place

Public Safety Building:

Completing metal decking and installing stairs
Continuing installation of CMU at vehicle bay

An average of 155 personnel are on site Monday through Friday. Eighteen workers on site on Saturday.
Contract 3: Utility Contract
Approximately 48% of contract work is complete with 52% of the contract time used. All interim milestones are being met or exceeded.
Main Access Road:

3W2″ Power Distribution Duct Bank is 95% complete
Street Light Duct Work is 87% complete
6W4″ Power Distribution Duct Bank is 98% complete
Jack and boring on Main Access Road for fire hydrant installation

Joyner Road:

24″ Water Main is 98% complete

GA Access Road:

12″ water main is 95% complete
30″ water main is 86% complete

Lift Station:

Lift station is 50% complete
Plumbing being installed

Fuel Farm:

Fuel farm is 15% complete
Grounding system was tested and passed this week

Booster Station:

Booster station is 35% complete
Starting to wrap wire next week

Contract 4: Landscape/Hardscape Contract

Installation of seed has begun on Main Access Road
Collecting and transplanting approximately 1,700 Juncus plants to wetlands area in Kelly Branch

kurt · #**125** 07-25-2009, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy A.

Kurt, thank you for the continuous updates on the progress of the new Panama City Airport. They are really appreciated by those of us who believe that long range planning regarding growth is the only way to go.
Do you have anything on the status of the suit brought about storm water drainoff and how it will affect the ongoing status of the project?
It seems to me from all I read about the long range plan, environmetal issues are at the forefront of considerations. But then, I am not an environmental extremist. Once again, thank you for the great updates.

Airport Authority Reaches Agreement With Florida DEP

by NewPFN on July 23, 2009
Press Release

AIRPORT AUTHORITY REACHES AGREEMENT WITH FLORIDA DEP;
CONTINUES MAKING ENVIRONMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS

Panama City, Florida - (July 23, 2009) - The Panama City - Bay County International Airport and Industrial District (Airport Authority) has reached an agreement with the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) on a series of steps to address temporary stormwater management issues that occurred during construction at the new Panama City - Bay County

International Airport construction site in northwestern Bay County.
The Airport Authority reacted quickly in May 2009 to address the stormwater management issues. Since then, the Airport Authority and FDEP have been working together on a final agreement based on the plan submitted by the Airport Authority to address environmental concerns. Under terms of the agreement, the Airport Authority has agreed to pay a $251,000 fine to FDEP.
The Airport Authority is working with FDEP to reinvest the fine in further environmental improvements at the new airport.

“Regardless of heavy rains, the situation with our stormwater management system was unacceptable, and we moved as quickly as possible to address all the shortcomings,” said Joe Tannehill, Chairman of the Airport Authority. “Throughout this process we have continued to work closely with the Florida DEP, and we believe we have reached an outcome that is not only fair, but will also benefit the environment and the people of Bay County.”

“The Airport Authority has set a very high environmental standard for the new airport,” Tannehill continued. “We remain committed to designing, building and operating America’s first green airport based on our detailed plans for wetlands mitigation, wildlife management, wastewater treatment and, yes, stormwater management that greatly exceed minimum requirements set by Florida law.”
To date, the Airport Authority has undertaken extensive efforts to meet and exceed the agreed upon plan issued by the FDEP and to prepare the site to be able to manage a tropical storm event during hurricane season.

The airport has committed $400,000 to expedite necessary projects and improvements.

The Airport Authority has taken the following actions to ensure the airport site is prepared for any future tropical rain event:

–Major stabilization of grading and seeding around the airport site to reduce soil erosion. Stabilization of the site including seeding, seed drilling, mulching and paving. To date:

825 acres are under final stabilization
210 acres are under temporary stabilization
375 acres are undergoing stabilization
125 acres still to be stabilized

–All perimeter ditches have been fully sodded and there has been re-grading and re-sodding of ditches along the General Aviation Access Road.

–Erosion control measures are in place, including:

Silt fencing in place and checked daily
Hay bales in ditches
Increased berms around the site.

–The construction team is working to make stormwater treatment ponds fully functional and in accordance with their final design.
–The construction team has updated plan to handle large rain events in the future.

–Site management system has been streamlined - each contractor has appointed a single point of contact with decision-making authority.

-The team has implemented a proactive environmental compliance management program that includes designated personnel, clear chain of command and timely reporting to the Airport Authority.

–The team has established a method of improved communication between the Airport construction team and the DEP including weekly and monthly reporting.

–The construction team has created and implemented a detailed schedule for removal of displaced sands in adjacent off-site areas and any associated environmental restoration.

–The Airport Authority established milestones for construction activities related to bringing the permanent stormwater features to their final conditions.

“I am pleased with the way construction team has responded and addressed the stormwater management issues,” said Tannehill. “We’ve seen a dramatic improvement over the last 75 days. I also want to thank FDEP for all their work. This has been a team effort, and the project, the environment and the people of Bay County are the ultimate beneficiaries.”

bdub · #**126** 07-25-2009, 10:24 AM

On the issue of passenger demand for flighst to the new airport, I think you miss the point. Most of the time, I end up flying into Pensacola and then drive to Sowal because the flights into Pcola are much cheaper (thank you AirTran). But I will fly into the new airport in a heartbeat if I can geat flights at a reasonable cost.

I live in the DC area. What I am really hoping for are direct Southwest flights out of nearby BWI (Southwest's east coast sub-hub). That could make my trip to the beach house a quick 3- 4 hours. That's how long it takes to drive to the nearby brownwater beaches.

Trust me when I say -- if you get Southwest flying into that airport -- the seats will be filled.

SWGB · #**127** 07-25-2009, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdub

On the issue of passenger demand for flighst to the new airport, I think you miss the point. Most of the time, I end up flying into Pensacola and then drive to Sowal because the flights into Pcola are much cheaper (thank you AirTran). But I will fly into the new airport in a heartbeat if I can geat flights at a reasonable cost.

I live in the DC area. What I am really hoping for are direct Southwest flights out of nearby BWI (Southwest's east coast sub-hub). That could make my trip to the beach house a quick 3- 4 hours. That's how long it takes to drive to the nearby brownwater beaches.

Trust me when I say -- if you get Southwest flying into that airport -- the seats will be filled.

That's the idea, but it may take time. Some people seem to be under the impression that this whole project is being done as some sort of light switch. People like to down the new airport because they haven't really read what the airport authority is saying. The airport authority is saying the over the next 50 years it will eventually be a major airport with international flights. Most of the Debbie downers hear that next year we'll have 747's of international visitors and then they gleefully laugh the it won't happen. Well it won't as it's a new airport, and probably won't have a low cost carrier the day it opens either.

SHELLY · #**128** 07-25-2009, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWGB

That's the idea, but it may take time. Some people seem to be under the impression that this whole project is being done as some sort of light switch.

Where the 'ell would someone get that impression??

Oh, yeah: Flights at new airport to begin May 2010, official says - LATEST NEWS BRIEFS - The News Herald

___________________

Mel Ponder was named executive director of Coastal Vision 3000 in front of a crowd of nearly 100 business and community leaders at the site of the new Panama City-Bay County International Airport. Ponder unveiled plans for a membership campaign for the nonprofit marketing organization that has branded a six-county area of Northwest Florida as "The Beach."

Attending Thursday's presentation were state Sen. Don Gaetz, R-Niceville, airport executive director Randy Curtis, St. Joe Co. spokesman Jerry Ray and Davage "Buddy" Runnels, chairman of Destin-based The Sterling Companies.

Runnels, co-founder of Coastal Vision 3000, said national and international flights would begin landing at the new airport in May 2010. "It brings hope and faith that our future is bright," he said.

Gaetz praised the group for its forward thinking.

"I believe a rising tide floats all boats, and Coastal Vision 3000 represents a regional consensus to grow our economy through smart economic decisions," Gaetz said.

NE SoWal'r · #**129** 07-27-2009, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdub

On the issue of passenger demand for flighst to the new airport, I think you miss the point. Most of the time, I end up flying into Pensacola and then drive to Sowal because the flights into Pcola are much cheaper (thank you AirTran). But I will fly into the new airport in a heartbeat if I can geat flights at a reasonable cost.

I live in the DC area. What I am really hoping for are direct Southwest flights out of nearby BWI (Southwest's east coast sub-hub). That could make my trip to the beach house a quick 3- 4 hours. That's how long it takes to drive to the nearby brownwater beaches.

Trust me when I say -- if you get Southwest flying into that airport -- the seats will be filled.

Southwest is a big player in here in Omaha. If they go to the new airport, which I believe they will, That will get us down there more often. Our only flights are through NWA, and that is a pain in the butt!

Southwest covers the lower part of Florida pretty well, so this would seem like the next migration. Either way, I hope that it lowers the price from NE some.

singinchicken · #**130** 07-28-2009, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHELLY

Where the 'ell would someone get that impression??

Oh, yeah: Flights at new airport to begin May 2010, official says - LATEST NEWS BRIEFS - The News Herald

OK...one more time...

All "international" means, in the grand scheme of things, is that customs services are located at the airport. That means that when Joe Schmo, who has loads of money and an airplane, flies in from, let's say, the Caribbean or from somewhere north of the border in Canada, he doesn't have to call for customs to drive to the airport from the Port of Panama City. That is an international flight by definition. SWGB is 100% correct. It is not a light switch for commercial scheduled flights. If the new airport does get a scheduled commercial flight in the future, it will likely be seasonal service from Canada.

inside635 · #**131** 07-28-2009, 01:40 PM

It would be fabulous if Southwest flew to PC from Dallas. Even if we have to make a stop in Houston or N.O. We always fly into Pensacola, but it takes so long to make it to SoWal. PC has got to be faster.

SHELLY · #**132** 07-28-2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inside635

It would be fabulous if Southwest flew to PC from Dallas. Even if we have to make a stop in Houston or N.O. We always fly into Pensacola, but it takes so long to make it to SoWal. PC has got to be faster.

Why not fly into Val-P?

.

SWGB · #**133** 07-29-2009, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHELLY

Why not fly into Val-P?

.

Perhaps because Southwest doesn't currently fly into Val-P?

SHELLY · #**134** 07-29-2009, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWGB

Perhaps because Southwest doesn't currently fly into Val-P?

OP Stated: "We always fly into Pensacola, but it takes so long to make it to SoWal."

Southwest doesn't currently fly to Pensacola either. Hence my suggestion of Val-P for next visit vs. PNS.

kurt · #**135** 07-29-2009, 06:41 AM

At the July 28 Airport Authority Board meeting, the Board received an update on the relocation project and awarded bids for the NAVAID package and exterior signage.
Airport Relocation Report

40% of the edge lighting on the Runway and Taxiways is complete.
63% of the utilities package is complete with all of the power distribution lines completed.
44% of the terminal package is complete. The terminal building, public safety building and the Air Traffic Control Tower are each about two weeks behind schedule while the Air Cargo and Air Maintenance buildings are ahead of schedule.
The terminal roof is approximately 90% complete.
The landscaping contract is underway and erosion measures and Best Management Practices (BMP) are in place along the main access road.
There are 43 people working in Morrell Branch restoring the area and removing silt. Another 25 people are performing the same type work in Kelly Branch. Both crews are working 50 hours per week on the project.

Bid for NAVAID Package
Three bids were submitted for consideration for the Runway 16/34 NAVAID and Air Traffic Control Tower equipment package at the new airport. Based on a review by PBS&J, the Board awarded the bid to Hypower, Inc. for $2,040,200.
Bid for Exterior Signage Package
Five bids were submitted for consideration for the Exterior Signage Package at the new airport. Based on a review by PBS&J, the Board awarded the bid to Panama City based Bell Signs for $691,890.88.
Bids submitted for the NAVAID package and exterior signs package can be downloaded here.

bdub · #**136** 07-29-2009, 08:06 AM

VP is a great little airport - but in my experience, the flights there are much more expensive. The issue is cost. I currently choose Pensacola (even though it adds a 2 hour drive to my place) because it's cheaper.

Look at the record -- passengers always win when Southwest enters a market. Other airlines across the area will be forced to lower prices to compete. And every single time there has been a new airport built in the state of Florida, significant economic growth has followed. Southwest in a new airport will be an economic shot in the arm to an area that could use it -- and it will come just about the time the PC area will be coming out of its real estate slump.

I look at this from the perspective of a part-time 30A resident who lives full-time in the DC area. I desperately want a BWI to Bay County direct flight. The other side of the coin ... I am certain there are many people (especially military families) who would use flights in the other direction. I mean, who wouldn't want a cheap flight from PC to your nation's capital?

Come on Southwest --- we need you!

singinchicken · #**137** 07-29-2009, 10:01 AM

VPS has always been more expensive than PFN. They need more airlines to compete in order to drop prices.

On the other hand, the flights into VPS are always packed to the gills at those high prices so there's no incentive to lower them. People are still choosing to fly there at a premium rather than PFN.

Pensacola is its own animal. It's a little too far removed from the area to be a player in the grand scheme of things. They probably share passenger load for the areas from VPS to points west, but I doubt they get many PFN passengers. Dothan is closer to PFN than Pensacola is...

beachmouse · #**138** 07-29-2009, 11:04 AM

Pensacola and Mobile each try to poach the other city's air travelers. I've seen billboards for That Other Airport in each of the cities.

SHELLY · #**139** 07-29-2009, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdub

VP is a great little airport - but in my experience, the flights there are much more expensive. The issue is cost. I currently choose Pensacola (even though it adds a 2 hour drive to my place) because it's cheaper.

Look at the record -- passengers always win when Southwest enters a market. Other airlines across the area will be forced to lower prices to compete. And every single time there has been a new airport built in the state of Florida, significant economic growth has followed. Southwest in a new airport will be an economic shot in the arm to an area that could use it -- and it will come just about the time the PC area will be coming out of its real estate slump.

I look at this from the perspective of a part-time 30A resident who lives full-time in the DC area. I desperately want a BWI to Bay County direct flight. The other side of the coin ... I am certain there are many people (especially military families) who would use flights in the other direction. I mean, who wouldn't want a cheap flight from PC to your nation's capital?

Come on Southwest --- we need you!

Somehow I just can't see Southwest going into the new PC airport anytime soon--I can be wrong (it's been known to happen once...maybe twice).

Southwest had its quarterly earnings call last week. Since Nov, they've reduced their flights by 300 (9%) and had to deeply discount fares to fill up planes. Even though their planes were filled above average capacity--their revenues were down below post 9-11 levels. Their business travel and freight revenues were in the toilet and they're very concerned about raising fuel costs going forward. They clearly played a great hand when they hedged the price of fuel last summer, but they currently haven't got a clue of how to play the market going forward.

From what I know about Southwest, and their penchant to minimize costs while maximizing revenue, I don't see them chomping at the bit to bring their airline into the middle of a pine forest where their pax (for the next several years) will be primarily seasonal tourists. And though "pax always win" when Southwest enters a market, Southwest doesn't make business decisions based on that premise.

I think that Val-P or Pensacola would be a better fit for their airline; each is flanked by midsized cities with business, military and tourist traffic (although I don't see them jumping on those in the near future either). I would think Pensacola would be choice #1, but AirTran already has that market.

I think the Coastal 3000 and their ilk are running on the "build it and they will come" mindset that is a product of the bubble era. The recession has changed everything and they just don't see it (or want to see it)...they're too busy looking in the rear view mirror...or just "in" the rear.

SWGB · #**140** 07-29-2009, 02:19 PM

I would much rather have Air Tran, they're known to have seasonal service. Myrtle Beach used to only have Air Tran during season. That would be fine with me as I really don't want to get the heck out of dodge until season hits. Since the military regularly charters planes with Air Tran it would seem like an easy move.

kurt · #**141** 08-03-2009, 08:49 PM

Contract 1: Heavy Civil and Airfield Lighting
Approximately 91% of contract is complete with 77% of the contract time used.

40% of the edge lighting on the Runway and Taxiways is complete.
Phoenix has submitted a plan to DEP for draining the 75 acre pond.
There are 43 people working in Morrell Branch restoring the area and removing silt.
Another 25 people are performing the same type work in Kelly Branch.

Crews are working approximately 50 hours per week on the project.
Contract 2: Terminal Building, ATCT and Support Buildings
Approximately 40% of the contract is complete with 48% of the contract time used.
Terminal:

Exterior sheathing all areas is 75% complete.
Roof sheathing and underlayment all areas is 95% complete.
Beginning installation of CMU walls in Baggage Handling area.

Air Traffic Control Tower:

Continuing mechanical/electrical and plumbing work.
Continuing MEP work through Level 4.

Terminal Support Facilities:

Continuing interior framing of Air Maintenance Facility and Air Maintenance Shed.
Continuing with the installation of exterior wall panels and installation of electrical in Air Cargo Facility.

Rental Car Facility:

Continuing with plumbing and electrical rough-in.
Began compacting and prepping for Slab on Grade.

Public Safety Building:

Completing metal decking and installing stairs.
Continuing installation of CMU at vehicle bay.

Manpower:

An average of 165 personnel are on site Monday through Friday.
9 workers on site on Saturday.

Contract 3: Utility Contract
Approximately 49% of contract work is complete with 54% of the contract time used. All interim milestones are being met or exceeded.
Main Access Road:

3W2″ Power Distribution Duct Bank: 95% complete
Installation of wiring by Gulf Power.
Street Light Duct Work is 94% complete.
Wire being pulled.
Boxes being installed.
6W4″ Power Distribution Duct Bank: 100% complete.
Jack and boring on Main Access Road for fire hydrant installation.

Joyner Road:
24″ Water Main is 98% complete.
GA Access Road:

12″ water main is 96% complete.
30″ water main is 86% complete.

Lift Station:

Lift station is 50% complete.
Plumbing being installed

Fuel Farm:

Fuel farm is 15% complete.
Electrical work in progress.

Booster Station:

Booster station is 35% complete.
Concrete roofs being installed.

Triturator:

Triturator is 10% complete
Vault installation in progress

Contract 4: Landscape/Hardscape Contract

Continuing to collect and transplant Juncus plants to wetlands area in Kelly Branch.
Disking and limerock on Main Access Road to begin on Thursday August 5th.
Seeding of Main Access Road scheduled for Monday August 10th.
ValleyCrest to use erosion control matting where necessary along Main Roadway.

coastal-edge · #**142** 08-03-2009, 10:25 PM

YouTube - Panama City Airport Update

Just got this today...
Thanks Kurt for the update... Saw this photo also...

kurt · #**143** 08-11-2009, 07:07 AM

MamaBear · #**144** 08-11-2009, 07:19 AM

Sunday my daughter was on a Southwest flight from Corpus Christ to Dallas. Southwest Founder Herb Kelleher was also on the flight. She asked the flight attendant to confirm with him that Southwest Airlines would be coming to the new Panama City Airport. He nodded in the affirmative. Yahoo!!!

Yarmap · #**145** 08-11-2009, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MamaBear

Sunday my daughter was on a Southwest flight from Corpus Christ to Dallas. Southwest Founder Herb Kelleher was also on the flight. She asked the flight attendant to confirm with him that Southwest Airlines would be coming to the new Panama City Airport. He nodded in the affirmative. Yahoo!!!

I saw on the Atlanta news the other day that South West was purchasing Frontier Airline, and that would bring SW in to ATL. I hope if your flying into PC in the future on SW you want have to go through the ATL nightmare.

MamaBear · #**146** 08-11-2009, 09:50 AM

You're correct about ATL nightmare. I'm hoping that won't be the case with Southwest.

kurt · #**147** 08-11-2009, 11:18 PM

Announcement near on low-cost carrier for new airport - The News Herald

Quote:

Airport officials might be just weeks away from announcing the addition of a new low-cost air carrier to the Panama City-Bay County International Airport under construction near West Bay, officials said Tuesday.

....

Rowe said airport officials were probably only 45 days away from making an announcement about a low-cost carrier’s commitment to the new airport, set to open in May 2010.

“We are in the 11th hour,” board member Andy Phillips agreed. “We are very, very close.”
One of the carriers mentioned by TDC members Tuesday was Southwest Airlines, one of the possible carriers airport officials are trying to recruit. The value of such a low-cost carrier would be in chartered international flights, Phillips said.

SWGB · #**148** 08-12-2009, 04:29 AM

You mean the nay sayers and debbie downers could be wrong?

Lord help us, next they might have some sort of feriner plane.

cabythesea · #**149** 08-12-2009, 08:57 AM

Word on the street - YES, Southwest is coming to PFN - will provide direct service to Orlando, Baltimore, Nashville and Houston. Typically, airlines do not make formal announcements about new routes/destinations until 4 weeks prior to start up. This is a very competitive business!
I travel almost weekly and utilize VPS since it has better service and cheaper rates - but I'm counting the days until the new PFN is open!!!

Smiling JOe · #**150** 08-12-2009, 12:06 PM

I'll be checking out the new airport in person later today. The Emerald Coast Association of Realtors is having a little tour with about 200 Realtors.

Scooter · #**151** 08-12-2009, 12:26 PM

Looking forward to your report SJ. The more I know about this airport, the sooner we may be able to build our home in Grayton.

30atelevision · #**152** 08-13-2009, 01:32 AM

Watch "Garys Good News reporting from the Airport"

Dreamsicle · #**153** 08-13-2009, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabythesea

Word on the street - YES, Southwest is coming to PFN - will provide direct service to Orlando, Baltimore, Nashville and Houston.

Great news for us Nashvillians! thanks for the update!

kurt · #**154** 08-13-2009, 11:15 AM

$99 round trip to Nashville will make a nice weekend.

Smiling JOe · #**155** 08-13-2009, 11:31 AM

The report from a JOE rep, yesterday, was that Nashville will likely be a secondary hub for the PCB airport. He also said that the TDC taxes going to the airport will be part of what enables the discount airline to charge $99 flights to places like Vegas (I think he was speaking in general terms, rather than saying that we would have flights to Vegas). He also noted that, though it is not official, the PCB airport may have direct flights to London, and seasonal flights to Canada.

Other than that, I didn't hear anything new about the airport, but did enjoy seeing RiverCamps (a JOE development) -- I really like it, but the no-see-ums were not out (fortunately). It can be a real be-otch when they are out.

Scooter · #**156** 08-13-2009, 07:41 PM

OMG! If there are direct flights to London and Houston, we'll be building our house in Grayton asap!!!!!! Goodbye Atlanta!!!!!!!!!

Bob · #**157** 08-13-2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30atelevision

Watch "Garys Good News reporting from the Airport"

great video, now about my reverse pivot..

singinchicken · #**158** 08-14-2009, 10:42 AM

I'm curious if Southwest's failure to close the deal on Frontier will have any effect on their route expansion plans...

Smiling JOe · #**159** 08-14-2009, 05:01 PM

I was wondering about that too. Sounds like SW was trying to increase their number of jets, and now may have to pay more to get them.

bdub · #**160** 08-14-2009, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiling JOe

I was wondering about that too. Sounds like SW was trying to increase their number of jets, and now may have to pay more to get them.

I don think SW was interested in the jets -- but probably in the landing slots and in picking up a bunch of experienced personnel. Southwest ONLY flies the Boeing 737, one of the ways it has always been able to keep maintenence costs under control. Frontier operated mostly Airbus aircraft.

Not clear exactly what Gary Kelly was up to in the Frontier talks, but the only reason the whole thing did not come together was because the Southwest pilots could not come work things out with the Frontier pilots union on things like seniority, etc.

I admit to be a big fan of "the People's Airline." This is gonna be huge -- and if my intel is right, the announcement is not far away.

kurt · #**161** 08-24-2009, 08:27 PM

Contract 1: Heavy Civil and Airfield Lighting
Approximately 91% of contract is complete with 80% of contract time used.

Pond C grading is 99% complete.
Installing Airfield Edge Lighting Conduit and Plazas
Continuing installation of Airside underdrain pipe
Terminal Apron concrete pad is complete
Morrell and Kelly Branch restoration continues

Contract 2: Terminal Building, ATCT and Support Buildings
Approximately 47% of contract is complete with 52% of contract time used.
Terminal:

In the utility area completed form work and compaction and preparing for concrete pour.
Continuing metal framing on 1st and 2nd levels.
In the baggage handling area continuing exterior CMU walls. Work is 60% complete.

Air Traffic Control Tower:

Preparing for concrete pour of stairs and deck Levels 2,3 and 4.
Installing decking and metal stairs floors 5-9.

Terminal Support Facilities:

Air Maintenance Facility - continuing electrical rough-in walls at maintenance office and bays.
Air Cargo Facility - continuing with the installation of MR gypsum wall board.

Rental Car Facility:

Beginning the erection of the pre-engineered metal building.

Public Safety Building:

Continuing block installation at 2nd level administration area.

Manpower:

An average of 155 personnel are on site Monday through Friday and approximately three workers are on site on Saturday.

Contract 3: Utility Contract
Approximately 57% of contract work is complete with 54% of contract time used.

3W2″ Power Distribution Duct Bank is 95% complete; installation of wiring by Gulf Power is ongoing.
Street Light Duct Work is 98% complete; light poles being installed (approx. 6-8 per day).
6W4″ Power Distribution Duct Bank is 100% complete.
Jack and boring on Main Access Road for fire hydrant installation.
24″ Water Main is 98% complete.
12″ water main is 99% complete.
30″ water main is 90% complete; installation continuing on the utility road.

Lift Station:

Lift Station is 50% complete; plumbing is being installed.

Fuel Farm:

Fuel Farm is 25% complete; electrical work is in progress.

Booster Station:

Booster Station is 40% complete; concrete roofs are poured.

Triturator:

Triturator is 10% complete; vault installation is underway.

Contract 4: Landscape/Hardscape Contract
Approximately 7% of the work is complete with 11% of the contract time used.

Construction is underway on overflow weirs on Main Access Road
Performing soil preparation on Main Access Road.
Hydro seeding of Main Access Road is underway.
Installing aquatic plants at main entrance.

kurt · #**162** 08-26-2009, 07:07 AM

kurt · #**163** 08-26-2009, 08:32 AM

http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/othercities/atlanta/stories/2009/08/17/story8.html?b=1250481600^1933811&s=industry&i=resi _real_estate

Quote:

St. Joe Co. is planning several more waves of development in the Florida Panhandle — a potential building boom spurred by the region’s new international airport.

St. Joe, one of the Panhandle’s largest developers, has several projects in the works around Panama City-Bay County International Airport, which is being built on a 4,000-acre site in western Bay County.

St. Joe donated land to the Panama City/Bay County Airport and Industrial District.

Construction on the airport began in late 2007.

St. Joe has land entitlements near the airport for at least 4 million square feet of commercial and industrial development and at least 5,800 residential units.

The Panhandle is one of the most popular summer vacation destinations for Atlantans and the location many choose for second homes.

But, the expansion of the airport gives cities such as Atlanta — about a five-hour drive from the Panhandle — greater connectivity to the Bay County region, economic development officials say.

St. Joe is banking on that connection to spur residential and commercial real estate demand not just from Atlanta but from across the South.

“Within this area we have a lot of residential projects in development, and the dirt is turning on those lots,” said Jerry Ray, a spokesman with St. Joe (NYSE: JOE).

“Some of those sites are ready for development,” he said. “In some cases houses are already there and builder programs are in place.”

In recent months, St. Joe Co. met with officials from Delta Air Lines Inc. (NYSE: DAL).

The meetings focused on the potential for more routes between the expanded Panama City airport and Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, Ray said.

“Here is the advantage the airport gives us,” Ray said. “We were always a drive-in market. But, once we have the new airport, it’s going to give us a chance to broaden our market and move from a regional destination to reach a much broader part of the country.”

The Panhandle is Florida’s second-largest tourism market behind Orlando.

With the airport’s planned opening in May 2010, Bay County officials think it might be enough of an economic engine to pull the residential market out of its slide.

Florida has one of the hardest-hit housing markets of any state.

“It’s going to be a catalyst,” said Janet Watermeier, director of economic development for the Bay County Chamber of Commerce.

“The airport is getting national media attention,” she said. “We’re getting calls from people with business interests in our region from as far away as California and Texas as well as the usual states, such as Mississippi and Georgia.”

The airport is one of the largest planned mixed-use developments in the United States.

St. Joe owns all of the land surrounding the airport, or about 71,000 acres. More than half of that is dedicated to preservation.

singinchicken · #**164** 09-01-2009, 03:48 PM

Still no updates other than SW cutting 92 flights from its schedule and adding flights between St. Louis - Boston and St. Louis - Minneapolis. They are taking reservations through early 2010 but PC is not there.

When is the new airport supposed to open? Given the fluidity of large scale construction projects I'm doubtful that they will sell any seats to Panama City, assuming they do, at some point, decide to fly there, until there is some sort of hard date.

Given the state of the airline industry carriers are going to cut deadwood and look for known revenue streams. I wouldn't look for a whole lot of expansion until the trend starts back up, but you never can tell with them. They do buck the trend more than most; however, they are expected to lose money this year for the first time in their history so they are entering uncharted territory. Should be interesting...

kurt · #**165** 09-01-2009, 03:52 PM

Start date is around memorial day 2010.

singinchicken · #**166** 09-01-2009, 04:00 PM

thanks...

I do have access to some behind the scenes announcements being in the industry and all.
This is the first thing that I've seen come across from them in a while. I'll be sure to post any updates as I get 'em...

Paula · #**167** 09-01-2009, 05:33 PM

I'm REALLY hoping for some direct flights from Detroit, ideally Delta, and having them be less expensive than flights currently are. Right now, going from Chicago or Detroit (anywhere in the midwest) one has to fly through Memphis or Atlanta to get to Panama City or Fort Walton Beach. And the flights are relatively high (Average about $360) so someone has to REALLY want to get to SoWal (as I do) to want to fly there frequently. It can easily be a 6-8 hour flight with layovers right now. If there ever is a direct flight, perhaps more people from the midwest will go to SoWal (you can decide if that's a good thing, but I think it's a good thing).

scooterbug44 · #**168** 09-01-2009, 08:15 PM

I'd be happy if they got a PNS or VPS to Chicago direct flight.

With apologies to the folks who live there, Memphis, Detroit, and Atlanta suck as places to fly through/get stuck.

beachmouse · #**169** 09-01-2009, 09:40 PM

I'm kind of surprised Pensacola doesn't have a Chicago non-stop. I know that VPS used to, but it got eliminated as part of a bigger route consolidation.

One bright spot- Tallahassee and Pensacola are supposed to get prized Washington National slots in the near future, and that might open up some interest in the area from the Mid Atlantic.

Paula · #**170** 09-01-2009, 10:45 PM

I want the direct flight to be from Detroit (the airport I use), but I'd be happy if there was one from Chicago, too. I like the new Detroit airport - new and easy to get around for me - but I fly Northwest/Delta and they have the nicest part of the airport.

SWGB · #**171** 09-02-2009, 03:04 AM

Looks like it's heating up.

Okaloosa Chambers Launch "Southwest to VPS"

Quote:

Northwest Florida Regional Airport has gone public with its campaign to attract Southwest Airlines.
Monday, the Destin Chamber sent out an e-mail on behalf on the airport announcing the campaign called "Southwest to VPS".
Airport officials are asking local business leaders to pledge money towards attracting the low-cost carrier.
There's no question southwest airlines will soon begin offering service to the Florida panhandle.
"To be able to come down here cheaper and bring the whole family, bring the grandma's would be great for us. We would really enjoy being able to come here more often," says Kansas City Resident Jessica Lea.
The question is which airport Southwest will choose as its Panhandle base.
Three airports are competing for the low-cost carrier.
Pensacola, Northwest Florida Regional in Okaloosa County, and the new Bay County Airport, which opens in West Bay next May.
Southwest wants to recoup start-up costs, so it's asking each airport to pledge monetary incentives.
Pensacola is in the middle of a $2 million campaign.
The St. Joe Company has reportedly pledge $10 million to bring Southwest to Bay County, although no one will confirm that report.
And now the Destin Chamber is encouraging its members to donate to the new Southwest to VPS campaign on-behalf of Northwest Florida Regional.
Northwest Regional officials launched the campaign after Pensacola’s chamber began soliciting Okaloosa County business last week.
"It's no different than what's been done in Panama City with the promise of 10 to 13 million dollars or what's going on in Pensacola. We just felt we needed to get in the competition because Southwest Airlines here is a much more direct benefit to our members in Destin," says Destin Chamber President Shane Moody.
Several Okaloosa County chambers are driving the campaign, because F.A.A. rules prohibit airports from direct fundraising to attract carriers.
A group of business owners will hold an informational meeting at the airport Wednesday to discuss fund-raising plans.
"We are certainly hoping that everyone will participate with us to bring Southwest Airlines to the most centrally located airport on the Gulf Coast," says local business owner Joe Fagundes.
Airport officials believe NWF Regional’s location and capabilities will win-over the low cost carrier.
"It's going to be an easy choice for Southwest," says Airports’ Director Greg Donovan.
The meeting at Northwest Florida Regional will begin at 1:00 P.M.

Personally I think it's hysterical that Destin is asking for handouts. Wouldn't anyone with the resources to plunk down 10-13 million bucks be flying in a private jet?

singinchicken · #**172** 09-02-2009, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beachmouse

I'm kind of surprised Pensacola doesn't have a Chicago non-stop. I know that VPS used to, but it got eliminated as part of a bigger route consolidation.

They used to via United, but it was eliminated due to low passenger yield. I think it went away about 3 years ago.

pcbdaily · #**173** 09-03-2009, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWGB

If it's paved, what's that ditch in the middle?

Is that for lights?

Holy-delayed-response BATMAN!

Sorry if this has been answered, didn't read all the posts, running out the door to SOWAL!

Yes, that strip was for the lights. That's all done now. I go up there with frequency. you can keep an eye on my site under the "airport" category.

TooFarTampa · #**174** 09-03-2009, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWGB

Looks like it's heating up.

Okaloosa $$Chambers Launch "Southwest to VPS"

Now this is very interesting reading.

Pensacola ups the ante in chase for Southwest Airlines - al.com

Quote:

Pensacola officials are mounting a public push to attract Southwest Airlines to Pensacola Gulf Coast Regional Airport, promising incentives that could be worth more than $10 million over three years.

(snip) One question is whether incentives mean much in courting Southwest.

"It doesn't matter where the incentives are," said Jack Penning, of Sixel Consulting, an Oregon firm that works for the Mobile airport. With Southwest, he said, "it's more about where the market will perform the best."

Any insights Singinchicken?

Everytime · #**175** 09-03-2009, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TooFarTampa

Now this is very interesting reading.

Pensacola ups the ante in chase for Southwest Airlines - al.com

Any insights Singinchicken?

I hadn't thought about Mobile being a possibility for SWA (as also mentioned in the PCOLA article). But now that I think about it, they probably have the largest MSA on the Gulf between NOLA & Tampa, an established industrial base including oil and gas plus a significant newcomer in Thyssen-Krup's steel facility, and easy direct access via I-65 and I-10. I still hope PCB gets it though.

singinchicken · #**176** 09-04-2009, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TooFarTampa

Now this is very interesting reading.

Pensacola ups the ante in chase for Southwest Airlines - al.com

Any insights Singinchicken?

No...not right now. It's hard to tell where they would go without being able to see passenger data. The thing to remember about Southwest is that they don't operate on the hub and spoke principle so, in theory, they could fly into either airport from anywhere as long as the passenger numbers warranted it.

It would be cool to see a battle of two low cost carriers (Air Tran) at PNS, but at the same time Southwest might use that to decide to go to VPS. Considering the fact that Southwest has just lost money for the first time in their history and that they have cut 92 flights from their schedule, where ever they decide to go will neet to reap immediate gains or else they won't do it. AFter looking at their route structure, though, PNS or VPS probably makes the most sense as it will give them a better presence in NW Florida to capture business that is more than seasonal. The closest airport they serve is New Orleans so either one of those would be a good choice.
Not trying to poop on Panama City. I'm trying to think like an airline that wants to establish successful service. Right now, the business to PC is largely seasonal. Things may be different down the road...

beachmouse · #**177** 09-04-2009, 12:00 PM

Looking at SWA's current route maps, the lowest volume airport they fly into east of Texas is Jackson, MS, which carries about 1.3 million passengers every year.

Passenger counts at assorted northern Gulf Coast airports, 2008 numbers:

RITA | BTS | Transtats

Pensacola - 1.53 million
Gulfport-Biloxi - 900K
VPS - 746K
Mobile - 572K
Panama City -332K

You can probably throw out Biloxi for being too close to New Orleans. Going in there would unnecessarily canibalize current service options.

So looking for another Jackson analog among the list, Mobile doesn't have the numbers to make it work, and even with pledges and financial offers, Panama City's numbers are so dismal right now that it's hard to justify starting a new service when existing demand is so weak. Jackson carries 400K Southwest passengers alone, and that's small annual load for SWA.

Unless Southwest is planning some sort of massive paradigm shift about moving into smaller East Coast markets (right now their sub-million passenger markets are in Texas) then Pensacola seems like it would be the best fit given what seems to be their current business plan.

One bright thing about Southwest going into Pensacola is that I'm not sure if the town is big enough for two discount carriers, and having a good Plan B in place might allow an airport to pick off AirTran for relocation elsewhere in the region. Which doesn't have the cachet of Southwest, but would noticably drop fares in other airports if they moved into Mobile, VPS, or Panama City.

singinchicken · #**178** 09-04-2009, 01:04 PM

I bow before you, Beachmouse! I have finally found my equal for talking airline stuff! Someone who gets it! You rock!

beachmouse · #**179** 09-04-2009, 01:08 PM

Smart, massively underemployed, and with an internet connection is a dangerous combination. Things are so dead here today I need to do something to keep from falling asleep on the job.

SHELLY · #**180** 09-04-2009, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beachmouse

Looking at SWA's current route maps, the lowest volume airport they fly into east of Texas is Jackson, MS, which carries about 1.3 million passengers every year.

Passenger counts at assorted northern Gulf Coast airports, 2008 numbers:

RITA | BTS | Transtats

Pensacola - 1.53 million
Gulfport-Biloxi - 900K
VPS - 746K
Mobile - 572K
Panama City -332K

You can probably throw out Biloxi for being too close to New Orleans. Going in there would unnecessarily canibalize current service options.

So looking for another Jackson analog among the list, Mobile doesn't have the numbers to make it work, and even with pledges and financial offers, Panama City's numbers are so dismal right now that it's hard to justify starting a new service when existing demand is so weak. Jackson carries 400K Southwest passengers alone, and that's small annual load for SWA.

Unless Southwest is planning some sort of massive paradigm shift about moving into smaller East Coast markets (right now their sub-million passenger markets are in Texas) then Pensacola seems like it would be the best fit given what seems to be their current business plan.

One bright thing about Southwest going into Pensacola is that I'm not sure if the town is big enough for two discount carriers, and having a good Plan B in place might allow an airport to pick off AirTran for relocation elsewhere in the region. Which doesn't have the cachet of Southwest, but would noticably drop fares in other airports if they moved into Mobile, VPS, or Panama City.

Good stuff...my money is on PNS getting the nod from Southwest with VPS a close 2nd. Pensacola is a nice fit to that fabled 13-letter destination with an up-and-running customer base; and it certainly beats the hell out of an airstrip in a pine forest named "THE Beach"

If AirTran decided to move out of PNS, I think they would opt to return to VPS over the "new" Panama City (aka THE Beach)--giving US Airways the opportunity to set up shop in THE Beach.

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Smiling JOe · #**181** 09-05-2009, 10:42 AM

Just curious to know how many of those VPS passengers in the counts were military flying for almost free. VPS IS on the base of Eglin, the world's largest Air Force base.

Smiling JOe · #**182** 09-05-2009, 10:45 AM

Also, we are looking only at passenger counts. I don't know anything about the airline industry in particular, but will SouthWest also look at things like operating costs? Will the PCB airport offer less expensive operating costs for the airlines because of its modern facilities?

beachmouse · #**183** 09-05-2009, 11:20 AM

If St. Joe keeps subsidizing heavily, then landing slots will be relatively cheap there. From what I remember, VPS is a budget place to land- the military is a cheap landlord when it comes to runway fees and the airport authority passes along those low runway costs to client airlines.

goodwitch58 · #**184** 09-05-2009, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiling JOe

Just curious to know how many of those VPS passengers in the counts were military flying for almost free. VPS IS on the base of Eglin, the world's largest Air Force base.

SJ, why do you say the military fly for "almost free". Many of the ones who deploy, do so on military aircraft. Others who fly commercial do pay for tickets. Often my son's commercial tickets have cost as much as anyone else's.
Just curious about what you were referencing.

Smiling JOe · #**185** 09-05-2009, 01:22 PM

I thought that airlines allowed active military to fly for something like $10 per seat. Maybe that was in the old days, or maybe only one or two airlines do that.

SHELLY · #**186** 09-05-2009, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiling JOe

I thought that airlines allowed active military to fly for something like $10 per seat.

Hokey Smoke, Rocky!...if that were true, there wouldn't be any room on board aircraft for full-fare civilians! (Except on flights to Cutbank, Montana in February).

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goodwitch58 · #**187** 09-05-2009, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiling JOe

I thought that airlines allowed active military to fly for something like $10 per seat. Maybe that was in the old days, or maybe only one or two airlines do that.

I'm not sure where you got that idea from. Here is the reality version. Active duty military who fly on commercial planes(for military purposes) often must purchase their own tickets and be reimbursed just as any other business person; sometimes, the military office will have a contracted price with certain airlines, just like the State of Florida sometimes does; occasionally, the military person has the ticket purchased for them and do not have to wait for reimbursement; but always, the airline is paid for the ticket by the military either through direct purchase, or reimbursement to the member, same as any other organization pays. In fact, sometimes even when flying on a military aircraft, there is a charge per person to the military unit.

scooterbug44 · #**188** 09-05-2009, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiling JOe

Just curious to know how many of those VPS passengers in the counts were military flying for almost free. VPS IS on the base of Eglin, the world's largest Air Force base.

Based on my experiences flying through VPS, military passengers are a minority of the passengers. Yes, there are more than on other flights I take, and it's rare to be on a flight w/o military personnel, but most of my fellow passengers are civilians who live in the area, are visiting on business, are retired military, or are on vacation.

Many airports (even the major ones) share runway space with the military - either regular or reserve units - so it's not a deal killer IMO.

beachmouse · #**189** 09-05-2009, 06:56 PM

A ways back, the mister ended up next to a group of Canadian engineers on his MEM-VPS leg. Their company needed to do engine testing in climate-controlled sub-zero temperatures, and it was cheaper and easier for the company to rent time at McKinley climate lab on base than to do their cold weather testing somewhere in Canada. (It would have been interesting to see the reaction when someone first proposed going from Alberta to Florida for cold weather testing. I'm sure they got chuckles before they showed that the numbers did work.)

There's a lot of high tech stuff surrounding Eglin that tends to slip below peoples' awareness if they aren't directly involved in it.

SHELLY · #**190** 09-05-2009, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooterbug44

Many airports (even the major ones) share runway space with the military - either regular or reserve units - so it's not a deal killer IMO.

... Hickam AFB and Honolulu International have shared a runway for over 50 years.

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singinchicken · #**191** 09-06-2009, 12:24 AM

there are more shared use facilities out there than most people know of...

scooterbug44 · #**192** 09-06-2009, 02:58 PM

I hadn't realized Minneapolis Int'l had a reserve base sharing its runways until a friend (Dad was an AF colonel I think) had her wedding there and some of the other guests got in trouble for taking photos too close to the flight line.

I also thought it hilarious that it took me over 30 minutes to get to it by cab when it was maybe 1/2 a mile as the crow flies.

kurt · #**193** 09-09-2009, 08:17 AM

Construction Update: 9/3/2009
Posted: 08 Sep 2009 08:08 AM PDT
Contract 1: Heavy Civil and Airfield Lighting
The project is currently 90% complete with 76% of the contract utilized. All interim milestones continue to be met or bested. In general, base bid earthwork is now 99% complete (6 million cubic yards).
The project’s Main Access Road is structurally complete excepting the final surface course that will be installed during facility commissioning. All of the P-403 asphalt base and concrete paving lanes have been placed on 8,400 linear feet of Runway 16-34 and the main apron.
On the taxiways and main apron, all lime rock base and the two lifts of P-401 base have been placed on 8,400 linear feet on all of the taxiways.

75,354 tons of asphalt pavement in place (68% of both airside and landside). 165,860 square yards of landside lime rock base and 130,885 square yards of flightline P-211 lime rock base have been installed in accordance with the project specifications.
67,233 cubic yards of concrete runway pavement and main terminal apron is in place (100% of ultimate volume).
99% of the RCP storm sewer installations are complete (43,939 linear feet). 77,904 linear feet of perforated under-drain has been installed along the taxiways and runways (50% of total). 43,415 linear feet of perforated pipe has been placed in the treatment ponds (54% of total).
62,668 linear feet of electrical lighting ductbank and lighting conduit has been installed (54% of design quantity) and 108,614 linear feet of counterpoise systems (35% of design). 60 base can plazas, 196 taxiway edge lights, and 348 runway light cans are now complete (55% of design). The roof truss system of the airfield lighting vault was erected.
Of the project site’s 1,400 acre foot print, 1,000 acres has been either seeded or paved.

Contract 2: Terminal Building and Support Facilities
The project is 51% complete with 52% of the time utilized. There has been some slippage within the terminal building schedule but the projected completion for the overall contract is still within the original period of performance.
The cab of the Air Traffic Control Tower will be installed during September in time for the FAA mobilization to the structure in January 2010.
Terminal Building - Area A

Completed CMU installation at Elevator #1 set hoist beam.
Completed installation of roof sheathing and underlayment.
Completed Fire Proofing: Column Lines B-E / 1-9.
100% Complete with installation of east retaining wall at Baggage Reclaim.
Began layout of 2200gal grease interceptor north end.
100% Complete with roof curbs/blocking for sky lights.
75% Complete installation of Cold Form Metal Framing (CFMF).
Continue MEP rough-in.
Continue installation Canopy Glulam Beams.

Terminal Building - Area B

95% Complete with installation of CMU walls at Elevator #5, to set hoist beam.
90% Complete with installation of CFMF interior/exterior walls.
100% Complete installation of roof curbs/blocking for skylights.
80% Complete with Sprayed Applied Fireproofing bottom of roof deck and structural members.
Continue mechanical and electrical rough-in.
Continue plumbing rough-in up through elevated deck.

Terminal Building - Area C

Completed part of concrete slab on grade for Baggage Handling.
Completed installation of structural steel columns and trusses.
Completed installation of roof deck.
Continued layout/installation of CMU walls at Baggage Handling.
Continued installation of CFMF Column lines, C19-C23 Airline Offices.
Continued Sprayed Applied Fireproofing underside of roof deck and structural members.
Continue with installation of plumbing rough-in and trench drains south end of baggage handling.

Terminal Building - Area D

Completed final pours on Jetway Bridge footings.
Completed roof decking.
Completed roof sheathing and underlayment.
Continued layout/install CFMF 2nd Level.
Completed Sprayed Applied Fireproofing at underside of roof deck.

Terminal Building - Area E

Completing erecting structural steel.
Completing roof decking.
Completing roof sheathing and underlayment.
Completed slab on grade.

Air Traffic Control Tower

90% Complete with installation of floor beams and stairs: Floors 1-4.
Delivery of Tower cab has been extended to early September.
Continue installation of stairs and floor decking.

Public Safety Building

Continue installation of CMU at Admin. area complete up through first floor.
85% Complete with installation of CMU at Vehicle Bays and equipment rooms.
Continue with the installation of CMU for the elevator shaft walls up through 2nd floor.
Completed erection of structural steel columns at vehicle bay.
Completed steel decking and preparing for 2nd floor elevated concrete pour.
Completed installation of stairs and hand rails in Admin area.
Completed installation of 750gal grease interceptor.

Air Cargo Building

Continue installation of entry doors, overhead doors and window.
Continue with rough-in of electrical and plumbing.
Continue the installation of light gauge metal framing, drywall and insulation.
Began installation of gypsum drywall.
95% Complete with installation of side metal paneling.

Air Maintenance Building

Continue installation of entry doors, overhead doors and window.
Continue plumbing and electrical rough-in.
Continue the installation of light gauge metal framing, drywall and insulation.
95% Complete with installation of side metal paneling.

Air Maintenance Building / Storage Shed

Continue installation of entry doors, overhead doors and window.
Continue plumbing and electrical rough-in.
Continue the installation of light gauge metal framing, drywall and insulation.

Fuel Storage

Completed installation of concrete transfer pads.
Completed installation of fuel containment areas.

Rental Car Facility

Completed installation of underground settling tanks.
Continued grading and compacting building pad, resetting edge forms.
Continued layout of canopy foundation and rough-in for fuel, air and water.
Continued electrical and plumbing rough-ins.

Contract 3: Utility Contract
Utilities are 59% complete with 64% of the contract time utilized. Power systems will be energized during September and water will be provided to the terminal complex in October.

21,654 linear feet of 12″ water main installed from CR-388 north Loop Road & GA Roadway (99% complete).
16,387 linear feet of 8″ sanitary force main completed onsite and along CR-388. (100% complete)
23,072 linear feet of 3W2″ power distribution duct bank installed. (95% complete)
34,165 linear feet of street light duct work installed on west side of main road.
6,849 linear feet 6Wx4″ concrete encased communication duct bank. (100% complete)
8,453 linear feet of 30″ water main along GA Road. (94% complete)
7,878 linear feet 24″ water main along Joyner Road. (98% complete)
68 fire hydrants installed.
50% of lift station completed to date.
40% of Booster Pump station completed to date.
25% of Fuel Farm Facility completed to date.
22 pieces of equipment and 32 personnel on site.

Contract 4: Landscape/Hardscape Contract
The contract was executed on June 2, 2009 in the amount of $2,957,056.52. A partial Notice to Proceed was released on June 8, 2009 for the seeding and erosion control measurements only along the Main Access Road and LEEDS area with a not to exceed amount of $600,000.00.
Notice to Proceed #2 was issued on July 13, 2009 for trees, shrubs, plantings & hardscape. Not to exceed price of $800,000 and a 330 day time frame.

With 11% of time has been utilized the Contractor direct billings through June of 2009 is $32,127.27 equals 2% of value released to date. (1.4m)
35 soil samples have been taken and tested for PH and metal content.
Erosion control measures have been installed along the Main Access Road.
1,400Aquatic plantings at Kelly Branch outfall.
1,700Aquatic plantings at Main entrance.
Hydroseeding on east side of Main Access Road.

Contract 5: NAVAIDs

Contract awarded to Hypower, Inc.
Base bid amount $1,728,800.00.
Bid Alternate 1 for installation of RWY Centerline and Touchdown Zone Lighting $311,400.00.
Anticipated Notice to Proceed is September 1, 2009.
Construction duration is 180 days.

Project scope:

RWY 16 Instrument Landing System - 90 days.
RWY 16 Medium Intensity Approach Light System - 120 days.
RTR Shelter & Tower Installation - 150 days.
Air Traffic Control Tower Equipment Installation - 150 days>.
Automated Surface Observation System site preparation - 180 days.
Project scope in process of being amended to include Airport Sponsor purchase and installation of all radio communications equipment, value TBD.

Andy A. · #**194** 09-09-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by beachmouse

A ways back, the mister ended up next to a group of Canadian engineers on his MEM-VPS leg. Their company needed to do engine testing in climate-controlled sub-zero temperatures, and it was cheaper and easier for the company to rent time at McKinley climate lab on base than to do their cold weather testing somewhere in Canada. (It would have been interesting to see the reaction when someone first proposed going from Alberta to Florida for cold weather testing. I'm sure they got chuckles before they showed that the numbers did work.)

There's a lot of high tech stuff surrounding Eglin that tends to slip below peoples' awareness if they aren't directly involved in it.

While I am sorry this is off subject, to think that not too long ago, some in our great Congress proposed doing away with the climate lab to cut military costs. Back to the initial thread.

kurt · #**195** 09-14-2009, 12:48 PM

Airport Authority Board Meeting - 9/11/2009

by NewPFN on September 14, 2009

BUSINESS ITEMS

Rental Car Minimum Annual Guarantees:
This item allows the board to consider removing the minimum annual guarantee (MAG) from the current rental car agreements.
The Board voted to keep the current MAG in the rental car agreements.
Amend Personnel Manual—New Job Position:
This item presents for Board approval of the creation of a temporary, part-time job position to assist the Director of Administration with certain tasks related to the relocation project such as filing, copying, faxing, etc. and assist in covering the front desk in the absence of the Executive Secretary. The position would be for 16-24 hours per week.
Approved.
Public Records Request Policy:
The airport attorney has prepared a Public Records Policy which provides uniform policies regarding public records requests. The policy names the Executive Director as the custodian of the Airport’s public records. It also states the airport will acknowledge any request promptly and allows for public records to be inspected at the administration office during normal business hours. The document also states a fee will be charged for requests which require extensive clerical or supervisory assistance (more than 20 minutes.)
Approved.

Walbridge Change Orders:

Security Infrastructure for AOA gate at GAT- hangars, Fuel Farm, North gate and Delivery gate. Cost: $619,751. Approved.
Add glass handrails back into the terminal contract. Cost: $95,816. Approved.
Relocate the first floor conference room to alleviate a bottleneck situation.Cost: not to exceed $75,000. Approved.
Extend exit corridor for arriving passengers at the request of TSA. Cost: Not to exceed $30,000. Approved.
Add lightning detection system. Cost: $48,000. Vote deferred until further information is supplied.
Add fuel monitoring system. Cost: $13,000. Approved.
Add screen wall at Maintenance building. Cost: $24,000. Approved.
Modify Delta office space. Cost: not to exceed $10,000. Approved.
Miscellaneous small changes. Cost: $50,417.06. Approved.

Phoenix Change Orders/Retainage:

Modification to Airfield Lighting Control Systems (ALCS) Cost: $34,706. Approved.
Relocation of project security fencing. Cost: $37,920 (this action will also alleviate the need for a special ditch crossing that would cost $75,000). Approved.
Modification to Main Access Road Storm Drainage Systems. Cost: $37,469.99. Approved.
Runway Extension: Will allow for the addition of the 1600 ft. RW 16-34 extension to the Phoenix contract. Also will include the costs for constructing the stubouts for Taxiways J & K for future tie-in to RW 3-21. Cost: $3,425,356.75. Approved (Pending final FAA approval for the 1600 foot extension).
Turf Establishment modifications: Recommends placing sod in critical areas along edges of pavement, as well as in specific ditch bottoms which lead to Pond C. Temporary Erosion Mat would be placed on the slope face adjacent to the Runway 16-34 Safety Area, on the slopes surrounding Pond C and on several other critical slopes. Estimated quantities to be used: 73,000 sy of Bermuda Sod - 170,000 sy of Temporary Erosion Mat. Cost: Not to exceed $500,000. Approved.
Retainage: Retainage was not held on the first 16 invoices under the Site Development and Paving contract. Starting with invoice 17, a 5% retainage was withheld and 5% will continue to be withheld until completion of the project. Approved.

KBR Change Order:

Increase to the project material testing budget. Cost: $109,100. Approved.

Gulf Power Change Order:

Add 350’ of 3—1/0 AI UG primary.
Add 180’ of 3—1/0 AI UG primary.
Install the 24”X36” splice boxes serving the NAVAIDS along the roadways.
Complete 1/0 AI UG primary along the general aviation section of the loop road.
Total Cost: $76,967. Approved.

OTHER BUSINESS
New Airport Name:
The board was asked to be thinking about a name for the new airport because it will be on the agenda at the next meeting on September 22, 2009. Staff will provide a list of suggestions compiled from input from the City of Panama City, Bay County, Staff and the public.
Naming New Airport Streets and Roads:
There are five streets at the new airport that will require naming. This action item will be on the agenda for the next board meeting on September 22, 2009 at 10 am.

SHELLY · #**196** 09-14-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kurt

New Airport Name:
The board was asked to be thinking about a name for the new airport because it will be on the agenda at the next meeting on September 22, 2009. Staff will provide a list of suggestions compiled from input from the City of Panama City, Bay County, Staff and the public.

How about:

"The Aiport Formerly Known as Panama City Bay County International"
"JOE's Airtropolis"
"Southwest Airlines International"
"Airport O' the Pines"
"THE™ Airport"

2bohemians · #**197** 09-14-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SHELLY

How about:

"THE™ Airport"

beachmouse · #**198** 09-14-2009, 02:08 PM

I was kind of skimming and for a second there I thought Shelly was proposing "Joe Francis' Airport Gone Wild" instead of the JOEport.

babymakes4 · #**199** 09-14-2009, 03:14 PM

Military personnel often pay more for their ticket due to a lot of "last minute" travel.

DuneLaker · #**200** 09-14-2009, 06:21 PM

These names aren't as funn as Shelly's but I'd ask to be considered:

West Florida Airport -- the airport is centrally located for West Florida

Some street names might be:

Walton Way -- the airport is within Walton County's original borders -- 388 could be renamed this and then continue on into Walton County when the road is extended to 98.

La Florida (Drive) -- historic name

Bay of Tacobago (Blvd) -- old historical name on map -- I love this old name -- Maybe someone will at least name a restaurant this one day.

West Bay (Avenue) -- A nod to the current area name that will be changed forever with this airport.

Washington (Street) -- Again, a neighbor county and this area was once part of it.

It will be fun to see the name suggestions.